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  • folmhaigh said:
    Considering mewtwo's psychic abilities and speed, I am aware of how strong/fast megaman is, but he couldn't really keep up, I mean, mewtwo moved so fast that time was quite literally frozen for them, and as for defensive power, protect is a hell of a move, along with being able to take blows from other god pokemon, including deoxys, the only chance mega would have is time stop into black hole, which with mewtwo actively using his psychic abilities to look into the future in most cases, wouldn't work either.

    No megaman can't send a black hole WHILE time is frozen, he can't change abilities when time is frozen, and even if he could, the black hole wouldn't move until time resumed and mewtwo outpaces its pull.

    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

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  • the_lazy_brownie said:
    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

    Now that is a wall the Chinese would be envious of.

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  • the_lazy_brownie said:
    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

    Correct, but in my opinion, all of this would be selling Mewtwo a little short. As Mewtwo, being created to be the greatest life form, obviously was made with combat in mind, and pokemon in general display a heightened sense of durability. High level trained pokemon going against the same elemental threats megaman is all to familar with on a daily basis.
    Mewtwo from Pokemon M16 (Movie 16), Genesect and the Legend Awakened, which has been reasonably assumed to be different from Mewtwo prime (The Mewtwo in the Mewtwo Strikes Back, Pokemon Origins, makes up 80+% of the pokemon's appearance, cerulean cave dweller and all), not only can mega evolve at will, but has gone face to face with a the artificial robotic bug, see where i'm going with this? In the encounter with Genesect, mewtwo not only displays ridiculous feats of speed, being able to near consistently dodge and keep up with shiny genesect, a pokemon who's fast enough to zip across a city in seconds and blink and you'll miss it combat speed, but, and the kicker is this, she does all of this without once fighting to kill. Attempting to persuade shiny genesect all through their fight not to hold a grudge against humanity and help them find their home.
    Now imagine all these shiny perks on a more combat oriented mewtwo that's less compassionate towards life, especially the life of something that technically isn't living, made by humans in a long line of service robots with destructive abilities. However, mewtwo doesn't even need to expend all it's psychic abilities, needing only to teleport the blue bomber to a hostile enough location like an active volcano, and drop him in. And all of this isn't even including the ridiculous mega evo pokedex entries/feats of the manga.
    Mewtwo also has access to a variety of elemental and status moves at their disposal. They could inflict megaman with burn, halfing his physical attacking capabilities, use imprison to seal one or more of his abilities, use amnesia to buff is SpD + barrier to dramatically weaken the effectiveness of any blast megaman hits, psychic terrain to further strengthen their psychich abilities or just strike him with thunder. Or, THE biggest hole in the argument above, mewtwo can learn recover., Granted for narrative purposes, it never does so in the movies or the anime, but in XY, it comes WITH recover pre-installed (which makes it honestly pretty annoying to fight). So mewtwo, at least healthwise, would never fully expend their options, being able to keep their distance, use protect and barrier for defense, and recover for health and stamina. AND AND this also isn't accounting for items, which if M16 mewtwo can mega evolve without a stone, there is so much you can do itemwise. of course there's leftovers and berries for gradual and instant health recovery, but there's also life orb, allowing for a 30% increase of power of the user in return for constant damage to user. Even uncommon items like the choice items, iron ball, etc could be used to limit megaman using the move trick So to recap:

    - Mewtwo can reach incredible speeds and mega evolve independently of a trainer
    - Mewtwo, outside of it's psychic abilities can inflict heavy elemental damage, a good variety of debuffs, recover it's health and instantaneously teleport megaman to a hostile enviroment he isn't built for

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  • the_lazy_brownie said:
    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

    Megaman/X have two moves - Dark Hold and Gravity Well - for the Time Freeze into a Blackhole

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  • the_lazy_brownie said:
    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

    i think he likes megaman

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  • the_lazy_brownie said:
    True. But irrationally as ever, Megaman has been always set to fight machines clearly stronger than him, better than him, powerful than him, faster than him. Across the classic Rockman franchise, from games, canon crossovers with Sonic the Hedgehog comics, and his own line of comics, he's been unfairly fighting from simply technologically robot masters, robotic atrocious hazards, to superior to godly poweful robots and non-human omnipotent entities of sorts. As unbelievable as it sounds, MewTwo wouldn't be his most powerful adversary he had ever faced, though he would still be at many disadvantages against Mewtwo, but it wouldn't be a first he has met opponents with similar or worst abilities for him. And all of that minding both of their abilities, Megaman would still be vulnerable to the time stop like kinetic activation and move like qn omnipotent creature to an offensive, clearly Megaman would be unable to move or anything, he's literally a construct with all software and hardware; he's basically a weaponized Roomba; however the circumstances, Megaman would still have a very advantageous survival passive quality, and that the material that is collectively all made of, given he comes from a futuristic time where alloys had been perfected beyond imagination and still evolving in development, compared to the world of Pokemon so far in all of their generations. Rockman could take on Mewtwo most destructive of abilities, be damaged, but never torn apart or broken, he would practically be a metal punching bag getting tossed around by Mewtwo, but would be able to function on moments Mewtwo realized too late why the blue robot he's damaging so much is not breaking apart. Additionally, in Smash 4&5 any character gets affected by psychic abilities due game logic, but given this context, Megaman is a literal machine with no biological matter whatsoever, he cannot get affected by most of mind related abilities from Mewtwo, the pokemon clearly having to resort to brute force and ranged attacks and still find difficult to destroy the literal definition of "I'm built different" sentient blue android even when trapping said mechanical creature in time-space, it would give Mewtwo a toll on his very own mind as the prolonged use of Mewtwo's psychic power becomes very taxing to himself and eventually having to resort to everyone else's "real time", and Rockman would still be standing up to his annoyance. Not to mention that realistically speaking for Rockman, his regular beams are basically much more-dangerous-than-bullets (usually a 7.62 mm from a M240 is found scary)... laser beams, like Star Wars blasters, medium charged beam is like getting hit by a BGM-71 TOW but it bladt goes through, and fully charged blasts are faster and do every more destructive results in terms of heat-explosive-melting-discharges and act like EMPs even sometimes, against the robot master he's been fighting, they had proper armor and tougher material but getting hit too many times by any variation of these beams overtime makes that arnor weak, eventually making that kast killing blow go through or blow from within the opposition... And Mewtwo is no machine, he has no alloy armor from a the future were Rockman comes from that's more advanced and durable compared to Mewtwo's time, if Megaman was to land just 1 "lemon pellet" of beam on Mewtwo, it would just make gaping burning hole on Mewtwo, given that Megaman follows the 3 rules of robotics, to not harm humans in any way and such, yet, Mewtwo is no human nor an entity he could recognize in his own database, he would consider Mewtwo a threat the moment he's getting tossed around and hit with huge blasts of energy from Mewtwo that essentially do no have heat based features but explosive just the same. Rockman would be an opponent at disadvantage at all times, but he would have the physical armor, immunity to psychic powers, armor and structure that can make him survive a semi-omnipotent creature like Mewtwo and maybe even accidentally kill off Mewtwo with a singular blast given they aren't meant to hit living flesh (human according to his programming). It's like being a 6'3" tall athletic guy, herculean shape and seemingly unstoppable, and the opponent is a average sized 5'8" that isn't athletic or fast but is strong enough to break a whole table and all the chairs on his back and he wouldn't flinch, the athletic guy would always be on the lead of landing hits, yet the smaller slower but stronger guy just punches the lights out of the more athletic guy with one chance he got to hit back; all that being a comparison.
    And if we are to bring Mewtwo's ability to to turn people to stone, it was the collective force of both Mew and Mewtwo that made it possible, of his own, he is not exactly capable to turn a non living construct to stone, since Rockman is a much stronger durable material than stone, Mewtwo Blasts go as far as to be able to somewhat destroy titanium but hardly completely, while Megaman is just made from something leagues and generations of more advanced metal. If we are gonna compare physical psi grip, Mewtwo is to have a 1 ton grip, which is a lot... an canonically Megaman has a 2 ton grip, the perk of being a machine. Mewtwo is more than capable of destroying an entire armored skyscraper building from him timeline, but all the materials and concrete and items used to make such constructions are still less durable than collectively Megaman whole being, making Megaman's timeline and his own hazards of his own timeline, his obvious weaknesses to the standards of that timeline. For all that given advantage of both ends, Mewtwo is well regarded for making Blackholes, Megaman can so too, as well the unexplainable ability to "solidify/stop" black holes with his "Concrete shot" beam, Ice beams that freezes lava somehow like Metroid's Samus, and a lot of bs beams and powerups of sorts. Of course Megaman wouldn't the time or chance to move at all for a long while while getting attacked by Mewtwo in a one sided like fight, but his psychic abilities alone tax Mewtwo's power, bringing him back eventually to just "real time" as mentioned before, Rockman would have the chance to start moving and hitting back by the advantage of of simply not being "alice", Mewtwo would be forced to have little to no chance to use hus psychics abilities to no effecf, but he would still be able to use the rest of his arsenal, such as creating tornados and such emulations of natural disasters.
    It's more of a fight of durability in the case of these two.

    Bro gave us a 15 page story about Megamall and mewtwo.

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