Zig Zag is the Best Furry :D

'I fucked your mom' XD

BEST LINE EVER!

XD I lolled

Bobby went out of his way to buy a blu-ray with this woman's image plastered all over it. He has access to any and every other kind of porn available online for FREE, but he would rather go out of his way to buy a blu-ray and support her craft. That said, can someone explain to me why this obvious fan would say those things about her?

Absolutely wonderful

RobDollar said:
Bobby went out of his way to buy a blu-ray with this woman's image plastered all over it. He has access to any and every other kind of porn available online for FREE, but he would rather go out of his way to buy a blu-ray and support her craft. That said, can someone explain to me why this obvious fan would say those things about her?

Sour grapes. He's grown so enamored with her, yet he finds and feels that he'll never ever have a shot with her.

The only way he can cope is to insist that she's "terrible" and "you'd have to be insane to like her".

He's actually depressed, severely so.

This "lol i got you back, troll!" sequence? His mother having a lusty afternoon with her?

He not only saw his deepest passion visit his own home, but she did the nasty with his mother (in his bed) and is insulting him about it, likely pushing "how he'll never get it".

He'd be suicidal at this point.

Daneasaur said:
I should know... Similar events happened to me and I haven't gotten over it, even twenty years later.

Do... Do you need someone to talk to?

Welp! his life has just been ruined..wait till he lies down in his bed. ;)

The ultimate Mind-Fuck!! ;-)

Ray_Clocks said:
Do... Do you need someone to talk to?

... Yeah... you could say I need to vent my own problem, but it's likely no one here will care. No one's cared about my issue for 20 years, why would that change?

It’d have been better if they got him involved instead of just ending it like that

Daneasaur said:
... Yeah... you could say I need to vent my own problem, but it's likely no one here will care. No one's cared about my issue for 20 years, why would that change?

...Wow. If it's any help, I care. I can't really do much here other than say that, but if you need resources, they're out there for you. Don't tell yourself no one cares; that's bull. It may seem hopeless, but there's always a way. I know that sounds stupid, and you've probably heard it too many times to count, but it's true.

I believe in you!

I can also lend an ear (or, in this case, an eye) if venting helps.

Me too. Not only that, but great post.

"Ur mum gay lol"

Binagon said:
"Ur mum gay lol"

"no u"

Daneasaur said:
Maybe. I mean, I look at all these comments openly saying "Yeah, ruin that troll's life!" and I'm sitting here thinking "But really all he wanted was either attention from her or some sympathy. You think this is going to make things better? It won't, it will make it a million times worse. If he doesn't consider suicide, he'll consider vengeance and ruin his mother, either by ruining her image or by violent means."

I've been that guy, I've suffered similarly. What would have worked so much better? Seducing him. Tempting him. It would have worked better in the long run as he'd instead have to "go onto his hubs" and be an advocate for how GREAT she is. Now? He's completely justified in calling her out. She didn't "win", she ensured his sour-grapes view of her as a rotten, terrible person is 100% accurate and has shattered his actual view of her as "completely magnificent".

And the thing that hurts the most is seeing these people bandwagon en mass and call him a villain. Because he did some "internet trolling", his own mother and his passion stabbed him in the back and in his face. And they are cheered on...

... Yeah... you could say I need to vent my own problem, but it's likely no one here will care. No one's cared about my issue for 20 years, why would that change?

You know what the weirdest part about this whole thing is? In the Sabrina Online comic strip, Zig Zag realizes that what she did with Helen was fucked up after her therapy session and decides to go apologize to the son. And when she does, he tells her it was okay and even brags about his mom getting banged by her to his friends. I mean good on the kid for taking it in stride and all, but the reaction was so not what I expected that it never sat right with me. I think it's because I was expecting something with more consequences to come from that, but she really got off easy. Meh.

coolhandluke0923 said:
You know what the weirdest part about this whole thing is? In the Sabrina Online comic strip, Zig Zag realizes that what she did with Helen was fucked up after her therapy session and decides to go apologize to the son. And when she does, he tells her it was okay and even brags about his mom getting banged by her to his friends. I mean good on the kid for taking it in stride and all, but the reaction was so not what I expected that it never sat right with me. I think it's because I was expecting something with more consequences to come from that, but she really got off easy. Meh.

Yeah, that sounds like a complete copout to me.

Thisorthat said:
...Wow. If it's any help, I care. I can't really do much here other than say that, but if you need resources, they're out there for you. Don't tell yourself no one cares; that's bull. It may seem hopeless, but there's always a way. I know that sounds stupid, and you've probably heard it too many times to count, but it's true.

I believe in you!

Thisorthat said:
I can also lend an ear (or, in this case, an eye) if venting helps.

Thank you kindly. It means a lot to hear... any words of comfort and sympathy and perhaps I could share my bane.

coolhandluke0923 said:
You know what the weirdest part about this whole thing is? In the Sabrina Online comic strip, Zig Zag realizes that what she did with Helen was fucked up after her therapy session and decides to go apologize to the son. And when she does, he tells her it was okay and even brags about his mom getting banged by her to his friends. I mean good on the kid for taking it in stride and all, but the reaction was so not what I expected that it never sat right with me. I think it's because I was expecting something with more consequences to come from that, but she really got off easy. Meh.

Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.

Granted, it's a porn comic, so I'd foresee it being resolved by her giving him what he'd always wanted as an apology, and it could work in that aspect.

But no, writers never follow through with drama the right way, especially if they never faced this special brand of hell firsthand.

... it makes me rather disappointed in their writing skills, honestly.

Daneasaur said:
*snip*

And now? Do you still hate anything related to females or no, did you find anyone else, are you still single? Any idea what happened to those two bitches? I'm just curious how that tale ends, I suppose.

Daneasaur said:

Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.

(From a friend of mine who has no account here)

This. This is exactly why watching porn is problematic for young people. If he had posted these kinds of feelings on the imageboard back then, he would have come across as a creepy stalker. In our culture, we aren't supposed to express these kinds of feelings for a porn star we fap to. And he can't express it in any other way either. That's one reason why so many people turn to pure 2D waifus these days.
Essentially, circumstance and his hormones got him into an emotional state that he had no way to express nor deal with.

rylasasin said:
And now? Do you still hate anything related to females or no, did you find anyone else, are you still single? Any idea what happened to those two bitches? I'm just curious how that tale ends, I suppose.

I've managed to portion it off into another place of my mind and I have tried to continue forward, as it were. However seeing stuff like this; the disregard and even attacking of someone who's simply misguided, sends me into a depression that often manifests as rage. I try to help those who are misguided as I was to prepare and shield them, but it only goes so far.

rylasasin said:
(From a friend of mine who has no account here)

This. This is exactly why watching porn is problematic for young people. If he had posted these kinds of feelings on the imageboard back then, he would have come across as a creepy stalker. In our culture, we aren't supposed to express these kinds of feelings for a porn star we fap to. And he can't express it in any other way either. That's one reason why so many people turn to pure 2D waifus these days.
Essentially, circumstance and his hormones got him into an emotional state that he had no way to express nor deal with.

To add to that; he was simply tortured instead of anyone trying to show him the right path.

It's hard to feel anything but contempt for ZZ at this point, and hard to feel anything but violent rage towards the mother who could have likely talked to her son about these issues, but lol no, we'll just say nothing and ruin his life because the writer will just cop out on any repercussions with "he liked it!"

As someone who's been in those shoes... To put it simply, No, no he did not "like" it.

Daneasaur said:
Thank you kindly. It means a lot to hear... any words of comfort and sympathy and perhaps I could share my bane.

Without going into too much detail... I had grown jaded due to bullying, but especially from females. Despite my sexual attraction, I was met with only torment. No matter how kind, no matter how courteous, I was met with only pain. I was open minded, I was fine with many things, but it was something I could not have. So I grew angry, it was my "sour grapes" and I lashed against it. I was safe, I was confined in my security of hating anything to do with females. Then one day it happened. I was met with someone who wasn't like that, who liked me, loved me, and all that pent up desire poured out. I'd give them anything, do anything for them, love them eternally. We had even made love and I sought no one else... Then my contact with her went dark. I tried and tried to contact her, only to find her female homosexual friend had grown jealous of me getting close to "who SHE wanted". She'd secluded my "love" and convinced her I had raped her and forbade me from ever trying to talk to her again lest they actually press charges. Yes, they, because my "love" lied and didn't tell me she'd been sexually assaulted by a family member, so instead of turning in the family member, swindled me as a much easier target to blame since she didn't care about me. The pain, the downright backstabbing, the face stabbing, the utter betrayal of everything only made my viewpoints stronger and my hatred ever more focused. I have been trying to cope, but I inflicted a lot of self harm and have scars where I tried to blot out the emotional pain with physical pain. Over 20 years later... I can recall it all as if it happened yesterday.

Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.

Granted, it's a porn comic, so I'd foresee it being resolved by her giving him what he'd always wanted as an apology, and it could work in that aspect.

But no, writers never follow through with drama the right way, especially if they never faced this special brand of hell firsthand.

... it makes me rather disappointed in their writing skills, honestly.

You're right. It was a total copout. Your idea would have been more interesting and made more sense. But there's a reason why people like to refer to ZigZag as the author's pet or a Mary Sue. Karma just never seems to bite her in the ass. Plus I get the feeling that the writer just wanted to wrap things up with the comic and sort of phoned that subplot in. And I'm sorry about what you went through. I hope things get better for you man.

Daneasaur said:
Thank you kindly. It means a lot to hear... any words of comfort and sympathy and perhaps I could share my bane.

Without going into too much detail... I had grown jaded due to bullying, but especially from females. Despite my sexual attraction, I was met with only torment. No matter how kind, no matter how courteous, I was met with only pain. I was open minded, I was fine with many things, but it was something I could not have. So I grew angry, it was my "sour grapes" and I lashed against it. I was safe, I was confined in my security of hating anything to do with females. Then one day it happened. I was met with someone who wasn't like that, who liked me, loved me, and all that pent up desire poured out. I'd give them anything, do anything for them, love them eternally. We had even made love and I sought no one else... Then my contact with her went dark. I tried and tried to contact her, only to find her female homosexual friend had grown jealous of me getting close to "who SHE wanted". She'd secluded my "love" and convinced her I had raped her and forbade me from ever trying to talk to her again lest they actually press charges. Yes, they, because my "love" lied and didn't tell me she'd been sexually assaulted by a family member, so instead of turning in the family member, swindled me as a much easier target to blame since she didn't care about me. The pain, the downright backstabbing, the face stabbing, the utter betrayal of everything only made my viewpoints stronger and my hatred ever more focused. I have been trying to cope, but I inflicted a lot of self harm and have scars where I tried to blot out the emotional pain with physical pain. Over 20 years later... I can recall it all as if it happened yesterday.

Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.

Granted, it's a porn comic, so I'd foresee it being resolved by her giving him what he'd always wanted as an apology, and it could work in that aspect.

But no, writers never follow through with drama the right way, especially if they never faced this special brand of hell firsthand.

... it makes me rather disappointed in their writing skills, honestly.

That is why the only version of ZigZag I like is from he fanfiction "ZigZag: The Story."

There, she is portrayed less of a nymphomaniac and more of a person with actual problems she has to deal with. I really hate ZigZag since she's almost always been written as a Karma Houdini who never faces consequences for her actions. She's too much of a creators pet.

coolhandluke0923 said:
Zig Zag realizes that what she did with Helen was fucked up after her therapy session and decides to go apologize to the son.

....No? When did that happen?

Daneasaur said:
Some heavy stuff.

I'm really sorry that that happened to you; it's not right.

RobDollar said:
....No? When did that happen?

It happened in the comic. Don't exactly remember when, but it was towards the end of it. I think she was talking to Sabrina about it.

coolhandluke0923 said:
It happened in the comic. Don't exactly remember when, but it was towards the end of it. I think she was talking to Sabrina about it.

I think you might be confusing that for when Zig apologized to Sabrina herself for being overly aggressive with her. Except for this elaboration, Helen is never mentioned again. A shame, really. For as popular as she's become recently, you'd think it'd be coming from her putting Zigzag's business card to good use.

Daneasaur said:
Without going into too much detail... I had grown jaded due to bullying, but especially from females. Despite my sexual attraction, I was met with only torment. No matter how kind, no matter how courteous, I was met with only pain. I was open minded, I was fine with many things, but it was something I could not have. So I grew angry, it was my "sour grapes" and I lashed against it. I was safe, I was confined in my security of hating anything to do with females. Then one day it happened. I was met with someone who wasn't like that, who liked me, loved me, and all that pent up desire poured out. I'd give them anything, do anything for them, love them eternally. We had even made love and I sought no one else... Then my contact with her went dark. I tried and tried to contact her, only to find her female homosexual friend had grown jealous of me getting close to "who SHE wanted". She'd secluded my "love" and convinced her I had raped her and forbade me from ever trying to talk to her again lest they actually press charges. Yes, they, because my "love" lied and didn't tell me she'd been sexually assaulted by a family member, so instead of turning in the family member, swindled me as a much easier target to blame since she didn't care about me. The pain, the downright backstabbing, the face stabbing, the utter betrayal of everything only made my viewpoints stronger and my hatred ever more focused. I have been trying to cope, but I inflicted a lot of self harm and have scars where I tried to blot out the emotional pain with physical pain. Over 20 years later... I can recall it all as if it happened yesterday.

You sound like you've gone through much more hell than most people in a life time... I know I'm just "some guy on the internet", but I am definitely here to help, to listen, and to do what I can to make you smile and feel better. We're all faced with problems, but it's the ability to work together is what makes those problems solvable. They may not fix anything, but they can be put to rest. I'm not sure if e621 has a private messaging system, but if it does, I'm here to listen. If it doesn't, I can give you a way to reach out to me. No matter the time or day, I can always help you out.

RobDollar said:
I think you might be confusing that for when Zig apologized to Sabrina herself for being overly aggressive with her. Except for this elaboration, Helen is never mentioned again. A shame, really. For as popular as she's become recently, you'd think it'd be coming from her putting Zigzag's business card to good use.

Granted it's been a long time since I've read the strip, but I could swear there was a small part where Zig brought up the incident and talked about her apology attempt and it showed that the kid she tried getting revenge on wasn't too phased by it. She was impressed too from what I recall. Maybe it was in the Adventure Begins at Home comic and I'm misremembering. I'm not crazy though. I know it's real since that was the thing that kinda ruined ZigZag for me XD (well that and this side comic).

coolhandluke0923 said:
You're right. It was a total copout. Your idea would have been more interesting and made more sense. But there's a reason why people like to refer to ZigZag as the author's pet or a Mary Sue. Karma just never seems to bite her in the ass. Plus I get the feeling that the writer just wanted to wrap things up with the comic and sort of phoned that subplot in. And I'm sorry about what you went through. I hope things get better for you man.

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Thank you kindly.

AlexanderMugetsu said:
That is why the only version of ZigZag I like is from he fanfiction "ZigZag: The Story."

There, she is portrayed less of a nymphomaniac and more of a person with actual problems she has to deal with. I really hate ZigZag since she's almost always been written as a Karma Houdini who never faces consequences for her actions. She's too much of a creators pet.

I've often disliked characters who do that, regardless of setting as it really is more of a whole writing cop-out and inability to deal with a plotline you yourself came up with.

Thisorthat said:

I'm really sorry that that happened to you; it's not right.

Thank you. It's somewhat amazing what some positive words can do for someone who is reaching out.

Ray_Clocks said:
You sound like you've gone through much more hell than most people in a life time... I know I'm just "some guy on the internet", but I am definitely here to help, to listen, and to do what I can to make you smile and feel better. We're all faced with problems, but it's the ability to work together is what makes those problems solvable. They may not fix anything, but they can be put to rest. I'm not sure if e621 has a private messaging system, but if it does, I'm here to listen. If it doesn't, I can give you a way to reach out to me. No matter the time or day, I can always help you out.

Hey, thanks a ton. Yeah it has a PM system, just click on someone's username and then at the top of the screen, click "send message".

And as a note to anyone out there reading this:

I may not be a best friend or anything, but I can lend an ear as well. If you feel lost, confused, or something similar, don't be afraid to reach out to someone.

Daneasaur said:
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Thank you kindly.

I've often disliked characters who do that, regardless of setting as it really is more of a whole writing cop-out and inability to deal with a plotline you yourself came up with.

Thank you. It's somewhat amazing what some positive words can do for someone who is reaching out.

Hey, thanks a ton. Yeah it has a PM system, just click on someone's username and then at the top of the screen, click "send message".

And as a note to anyone out there reading this:

I may not be a best friend or anything, but I can lend an ear as well. If you feel lost, confused, or something similar, don't be afraid to reach out to someone.

God bless fanfiction.

And god bless you, you wonderful person. Never stop being you.

Well that broke his brain.

Ah Zig,
you did it again. hehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh8eXHxFWH8

Personally, I'd have had the kid completely brush off Zig's attempts to freak him out.

"Oh, Mom... See, this is why everyone said you needed to start dating again."

et cetera. Have the underage troll be the one acting like an adult while his mom sits and squirms and Zig quietly fumes in the background.

MrPants said:
Personally, I'd have had the kid completely brush off Zig's attempts to freak him out.

"Oh, Mom... See, this is why everyone said you needed to start dating again."

et cetera. Have the underage troll be the one acting like an adult while his mom sits and squirms and Zig quietly fumes in the background.

The best way to take the air out of a troll's sails; don't feed them, underreact, or agree with them.

omg how did I miss this fucking page!

oh right.. I was in the sticks, at a funeral with no internet :s

Best.. Comeback.. Ever!!

I'd fuck that slut Zig Zag. Raw. No pulling out.

How do you guys think he'll react to seeing him Mom in Zig's future porn?

coolhandluke0923 said:
You know what the weirdest part about this whole thing is? In the Sabrina Online comic strip, Zig Zag realizes that what she did with Helen was fucked up after her therapy session and decides to go apologize to the son. And when she does, he tells her it was okay and even brags about his mom getting banged by her to his friends. I mean good on the kid for taking it in stride and all, but the reaction was so not what I expected that it never sat right with me. I think it's because I was expecting something with more consequences to come from that, but she really got off easy. Meh.

You're thinking of the webcomic this act was inspired by, where the character involved actively causes the divorce, unlike in this where the parents are already divorced, and the only reason the Kid's okay with it later is because his dad was a bastard that was making his mom cry herself to sleep every night.

Zig never apologizes, gets his mom into the porn biz, and since he follows her stuff that means he probably ended up getting an eyefull or two of his mom getting fucked, either by Zig or one of her other employees.

EPIC!!!

I'd like to offer an alternate ending to this comic; one that doesn't end up with Bobby being depressed and considering suicide, while also not pulling a ridiculous feeling of forgiveness out of it's ass that Zigzag doesn't deserve.

I hope you liked it.

The_Rhythm_Dragon said:
I'd like to offer an alternate ending to this comic; one that doesn't end up with Bobby being depressed and considering suicide, while also not pulling a ridiculous feeling of forgiveness out of it's ass that Zigzag doesn't deserve.

While I like this a lot more than the original, This still seems like a little too easy of a fix
I think that she should hear the DVD remark but not really think about it til later that night

She’d be thinking about it but then realize that she didn’t feel quite as satisfied with her revenge as she thought, so she thinks about it deeper & realizes her mistake. So the next morning she goes over to apologize & only Helen is there. Helen slightly cringes at the sight of Zig Zag, remembering how Bobby fell apart & cried after the night before, but asks what she wants. Then she responds, “I’m sorry, I seriously messed up, is your son home?” & Hellen would say he’s at school. Zig Zag asks if she can stay & wait but Helen politely tells her that she probably shouldn’t stay. Zig Zag would be hurt & confused why Helen was less friendly than last time but tries to come back later. This time, Bobby answers & he almost slams the door on her but Zig Zag grabs it before he can. She tries to apologize but Bobby goes off on her, yelling about all the pain he went through & then leaves, Hellen behind him. She tries to comfort him but he shoves past her, ignoring her & she gives Zig Zag a mournful look before shutting the door. Zig Zag realizes just how royally she fucked up, & goes home, not knowing how to fix what she did.

Time passes & it continues to haunt her & she talks to a therapist about it (as well as her other stuff) & the therapist comments that she should try again. At first she’s like, “but I tried to already!” & the therapist simply replies, “well, they’ve both had time to think. YOU’VE had time to think. I think it’s a good time to tell them how you feel now”

The next day she goes to the house & Hellen answers. She is more friendly towards her again but she clearly isn’t happy with her & Zig Zag asks if Bobby’s home again. Before she can respond she sees Bobby in the background & he stops, glaring at her. Zig Zag asks if she can come in & talk & Hellen hesitantly lets her, to which Zig Zag sits down & tells them how much she regrets how she hurt Bobby & Hellen & how it has haunted her since. Bobby simply agrees that they can be cool now. He never sees her the same, but he does see that she’s truly regretful & sorry, & not just trying to make his mom happy or anything, & Zig Zag learns *herself* that taking revenge is NOT okay. Bobby would also forgive his mom, as she had talked to him about it before & Zig Zag put it into light how it was entirely her own fault.

But that’s just me, I’m a bit more sadistic with my writing, & this would take a LOT more comic pages, so whatever

Anakira said:
While I like this a lot more than the original, this still seems like a little too easy of a fix. I think that she should hear the DVD remark but not really think about it until later that night.

Damn, that's actually a really good ending, if I'm being honest. Now that I think about it, my ending was a little fast and did kinda resolve all conflict unrealistically.

Hot damn, did not expect the comments to turn into a surprisingly wholesome therapy session

theultramagnus said:
Hot damn, did not expect the comments to turn into a surprisingly wholesome therapy session

Right? I wish other platforms had that much wholesomness in it tbh.

...fuck it. I’ll get downvoted.(If anyone’s reading this)

This is a great thread discussion. But has no one remarked how not only buying one dvd isn’t enough to be considered idolizing, that said dvd seems to have different porn stars in it?

I get it. Zig was being extremely petty and anyone can sympathize with the kid. Yet, I feel like this is not half as traumatizing for Bobby as people said it is...

daneasaur said:
Thank you kindly. It means a lot to hear... any words of comfort and sympathy and perhaps I could share my bane.

Without going into too much detail... I had grown jaded due to bullying, but especially from females. Despite my sexual attraction, I was met with only torment. No matter how kind, no matter how courteous, I was met with only pain. I was open minded, I was fine with many things, but it was something I could not have. So I grew angry, it was my "sour grapes" and I lashed against it. I was safe, I was confined in my security of hating anything to do with females. Then one day it happened. I was met with someone who wasn't like that, who liked me, loved me, and all that pent up desire poured out. I'd give them anything, do anything for them, love them eternally. We had even made love and I sought no one else... Then my contact with her went dark. I tried and tried to contact her, only to find her female homosexual friend had grown jealous of me getting close to "who SHE wanted". She'd secluded my "love" and convinced her I had raped her and forbade me from ever trying to talk to her again lest they actually press charges. Yes, they, because my "love" lied and didn't tell me she'd been sexually assaulted by a family member, so instead of turning in the family member, swindled me as a much easier target to blame since she didn't care about me. The pain, the downright backstabbing, the face stabbing, the utter betrayal of everything only made my viewpoints stronger and my hatred ever more focused. I have been trying to cope, but I inflicted a lot of self harm and have scars where I tried to blot out the emotional pain with physical pain. Over 20 years later... I can recall it all as if it happened yesterday.

Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.

Granted, it's a porn comic, so I'd foresee it being resolved by her giving him what he'd always wanted as an apology, and it could work in that aspect.

But no, writers never follow through with drama the right way, especially if they never faced this special brand of hell firsthand.

... it makes me rather disappointed in their writing skills, honestly.

It's called the Karma Houdini Trope for a reason.

Yeah...........
I am sorry, but...
Prepare yourself for a wall of text...
Not english fluent, so the texts can have a lot of gramatical errors

daneasaur said:
Ya know, if Bobby was, like, a real angry person, he'd likely fire this back on his mother with: "Wow, I had a feeling my mother was insane. Would explain why dad walked out on us, along with the fact that you couldn't keep your legs closed."

daneasaur said:
Sour grapes. He's grown so enamored with her, yet he finds and feels that he'll never ever have a shot with her.
The only way he can cope is to insist that she's "terrible" and "you'd have to be insane to like her".
He's actually depressed, severely so.
This "lol i got you back, troll!" sequence? His mother having a lusty afternoon with her?
He not only saw his deepest passion visit his own home, but she did the nasty with his mother (in his bed) and is insulting him about it, likely pushing "how he'll never get it".
He'd be suicidal at this point.
I should know... Similar events happened to me and I haven't gotten over it, even twenty years later.

daneasaur said:
Maybe. I mean, I look at all these comments openly saying "Yeah, ruin that troll's life!" and I'm sitting here thinking "But really all he wanted was either attention from her or some sympathy. You think this is going to make things better? It won't, it will make it a million times worse. If he doesn't consider suicide, he'll consider vengeance and ruin his mother, either by ruining her image or by violent means."

I've been that guy, I've suffered similarly. What would have worked so much better? Seducing him. Tempting him. It would have worked better in the long run as he'd instead have to "go onto his hubs" and be an advocate for how GREAT she is. Now? He's completely justified in calling her out. She didn't "win", she ensured his sour-grapes view of her as a rotten, terrible person is 100% accurate and has shattered his actual view of her as "completely magnificent".

And the thing that hurts the most is seeing these people bandwagon en mass and call him a villain. Because he did some "internet trolling", his own mother and his passion stabbed him in the back and in his face. And they are cheered on...

... Yeah... you could say I need to vent my own problem, but it's likely no one here will care. No one's cared about my issue for 20 years, why would that change?

daneasaur said:
Total copout. What SHOULD have happened should have been a year or two passing, the kid being of legal age but a fucking wreck and the leader of a series of anti zz forums. When she goes to apologize, he lets her have it with the raw facts: that he LOVED her at one point and idolized her, but she fucking destroyed anything and everything he had along with his mother (who he disowned), only justifying his viewpoints.
Granted, it's a porn comic, so I'd foresee it being resolved by her giving him what he'd always wanted as an apology, and it could work in that aspect.
But no, writers never follow through with drama the right way, especially if they never faced this special brand of hell first hand.
... it makes me rather disappointed in their writing skills, honestly.

Oooooooooooooooooooooh my fucking god...
I am such an idiot for not having an account years ago, i remember when this page was posted and felt (and still feel) EXACTLY like Daneasaur (but the things he went on in life were a lot worse than mine), and i would love to had talked and shared thoughts with the people here at that moment, i'm just here because someone remembered me of this and now i needed to.
Almost everyone that talks with me about furry comics and certain type of characters know that i always bring this ****** of a skunk into subject, didn't knew her before and the first time i saw her was doing this thing.
When i first read the comic and realized exactly what she did, that didn't felt any good nor right, so it stirred my insides since then. Always thought that cheating or any kind of situation like this is horrible, and the comic did exactly that...
I had a long distance relationship and time later i found that she was having 6-7 other male partners (and i won't even be surprised if she had a female partner as well).
Together with some traumatic event years ago, i had bad crisis in home and in public, kill wishes (even planning everything, like maps, time plans, mechanisms and such), and to not waste my own life, since 2018 i am having therapy and meds (covid stopped me).
Now i am better and forgave her (but not going after her), but this fictional character i can't "forgive", i never even talked with it and i can't...

ganbarise-king99 said:
How do you guys think he'll react to seeing him Mom in Zig's future porn?

Please don't made me think this, probably if he didn't had the support to think and do better with his life after this, i'm certain that he would try to make idiot things and possibly end up in jail.

ganbarise-king99 said:
You're thinking of the webcomic this act was inspired by, where the character involved actively causes the divorce, unlike in this where the parents are already divorced, and the only reason the Kid's okay with it later is because his dad was a bastard that was making his mom cry herself to sleep every night.

Zig never apologizes, gets his mom into the porn biz, and since he follows her stuff that means he probably ended up getting an eyefull or two of his mom getting fucked, either by Zig or one of her other employees.

Well, i never found that inspired webcomic, so i think i'm happier because of that...
And your idea of his mom actually getting in porn biz isn't nothing out of the way since what she did with the skunk, her prior knowledge, and what the next page had shown...
Yeah, i hate this fucking skunk...

Following e621's rules, i need to cut this into 2 parts, so the second is soon after this.

Second part of my big comment wall...

the_rhythm_dragon said:
I'd like to offer an alternate ending to this comic; one that doesn't end up with Bobby being depressed and considering suicide, while also not pulling a ridiculous feeling of forgiveness out of it's ass that Zigzag doesn't deserve.

The alternate ending starts off right after this very page. After being told the "news" of what just happened, he starts to feel woozy with the revelation and very clumsily makes his way to the dining table. After sitting down, he buries his face in his arms and proceeds to cry quietly. Zigzag notes how dramatic he's being and silently congratulates herself on a job well done. As she says goodbye to Helen, Bobby manages to stammer a "W-Wait!". Zigzag turns her head and Bobby gets out "I have a question!". In an annoyed tone, Zigzag sighs and proceeds with "Fine. But I'm a very busy woman so make it quick.". Bobby turns to his mom, feebly points to the annoyed pornstar and tries to formulate "How did you get so interested in her?" but could only get the first three words out of his system. Helen though, could tell what the distraught boy was trying to say and answered with "Well, I found your DVDs of her."

At that moment, Bobby buried his hands deeper into his arms and cried a little louder. Zigzag proceeded to leave, but something stopped her. Helen saying "I found your DVDs of her" started ricocheting in her mind until she picked out the pronouns and slowly came to the conclusion that 'Those DVDs were his. HE had DVDs of ME!'. She turned to Helen, who was failing to comfort her son and, despite the chaos of her psyche repeating "IFUCKEDUPIFUCKEDUPIFUCKEDUP", calmly said "I think I know what's going on. Your son never hated me. The only reason he said those vile things online was because he thought he would never meet me in person and the only way to cope would be to badmouth me online. I fucked up royally." "Well what now?", Helen yelled in panic, to which Zigzag calmly responded with "Let's just leave Bobby alone for a minute while he finishes crying. I have an idea.".

After five minutes of deep breaths, Zigzag began by calmly saying "Look, Bobby — Am I allowed to call you Bobby?". The Bobby in question answered "Sure." in a monotone voice, while not really looking the skunk in the eyes (And no, he wasn't staring at THOSE either.), to which she reprised: "Look, Bobby, I have made a huge mistake. I didn't realize what you were going through and I jumped to conclusions while thinking with my junk. I'm so sorry about what I did and I want to make it up to you. Helen, he is 17, right?" "Yes." "And when's his next birthday?" "Two weeks from tomorrow. Why?" Zigzag checked her phone to see if anything was scheduled for that day, to which she found nothing but a grey text that said SATURDAY. She turned back to Bobby and tried to meet his gaze. She asked: "How about, for your birthday, I come over from 9am until 9pm, and we do whatever you want then. You wanna have sex? My body is ready! You wanna play Smash Bros. or Overwatch or something? I'm game! You wanna throw a party? I'm your animal! You wanna invite some friends? You know what they say: The more, the merrier!". Over the course of her spiel, Bobby was getting more and more interested in what she had to say. He liked the proposal and could feel the energy she was giving off, to the point where he mirrored her saying "The more, the merrier" before saying "Sure! Thanks a lot! I accept your apology!". A rush of applause came from Helen, who was feeling the energy too.

As Zigzag was getting ready to leave, she offered a few words of advice to Helen: "Take care of your son and make sure you have his back when things get tough. I'm counting on you. Also, Bobby, you might wanna wash your bedsheets. No reason why.". Bobby responded flatly with: "I'm sure there isn't." before ditching the monotone and saying "I also have some advice for you. Don't try to 'get revenge' on people, okay? Sometimes you'll come across people that just don't like you. It happens. Not everyone has to like you. You'll just seem like more of an ass.". Zigzag considered getting angry at the boy, but then realized that he had a point and just shrugged and said: "Fair enough. I'll see you on your birthday!", before leaving the waving mother and son duo to head back to her office.

I hope you liked it.

anakira said:
While I like this a lot more than the original, This still seems like a little too easy of a fix

Yeah, while your idea of a better final for the comic was really good, more than enough to calm me down, "The_rhythm_dragon", i agreed with "Anakira", it was indeed a bit too easily to be fixed.

anakira said:
I think that she should hear the DVD remark but not really think about it until later that night.

She’d be thinking about it but then realize that she didn’t feel quite as satisfied with her revenge as she thought, so she thinks about it deeper & realizes her mistake. So the next morning she goes over to apologize & only Helen is there. Helen slightly cringes at the sight of Zig Zag, remembering how Bobby fell apart & cried after the night before, but asks what she wants. Then she responds, “I’m sorry, I seriously messed up, is your son home?” & Hellen would say he’s at school. Zig Zag asks if she can stay & wait but Helen politely tells her that she probably shouldn’t stay. Zig Zag would be hurt & confused why Helen was less friendly than last time but tries to come back later. This time, Bobby answers & he almost slams the door on her but Zig Zag grabs it before he can. She tries to apologize but Bobby goes off on her, yelling about all the pain he went through & then leaves, Hellen behind him. She tries to comfort him but he shoves past her, ignoring her & she gives Zig Zag a mournful look before shutting the door. Zig Zag realizes just how royally she fucked up, & goes home, not knowing how to fix what she did.

Time passes & it continues to haunt her & she talks to a therapist about it (as well as her other stuff) & the therapist comments that she should try again. At first she’s like, “but I tried to already!” & the therapist simply replies, “well, they’ve both had time to think. YOU’VE had time to think. I think it’s a good time to tell them how you feel now”.

The next day after the therapy session, she goes to the house & Hellen answers. She is more friendly towards her again but she clearly isn’t happy with her & Zig Zag asks if Bobby’s home again. Before she can respond she sees Bobby in the background & he stops, glaring at her. Zig Zag asks if she can come in & talk & Hellen hesitantly lets her, to which Zig Zag sits down & tells them how much she regrets how she hurt Bobby & Hellen & how it has haunted her since. Bobby simply agrees that they can be cool now. He never sees her the same, but he does see that she’s truly regretful & sorry, & not just trying to make his mom happy or anything, & Zig Zag learns *herself* that taking revenge is NOT okay. Bobby would also forgive his mom, as she had talked to him about it before & Zig Zag put it into light how it was entirely her own fault.

But that’s just me, I’m a bit more sadistic with my writing, & this would take a LOT more comic pages, so whatever.

"Anakira", that is exactly what i would paste in MS Word, correct the margins and some details, then print in A3 and huge fonts, put in a frame and stick it to my wall above the bed.
Everyone was affected in her revenge (he stopped admiring her, got visibly more depressed but after a long time he had therapy and felt better with himself, and a bit more after the skunk "trying to be forgiven", his mom never getting into the porn biz and keeping her job, and even the skunk suffered as well, before the therapist giving help, all of them left with scars of the pussybrain-led revenge, but the pain isn't that hard to cope like before).
And it will not be a magical instant cure, bringing a bit of realism in a world so easily filled with porn that not even real human porn could keep up with it.
Like Karno's comic, "Program Switch" ( https://e621.net/pools/1659 ), realism is indeed something that people can't get rid of, and that's what this skunk's world doesn't have, and this is a problem.

darkaura46 said:
...fuck it. I’ll get downvoted.(If anyone’s reading this)

This is a great thread discussion. But has no one remarked how not only buying one dvd isn’t enough to be considered idolizing, that said dvd seems to have different porn stars in it?

I get it. Zig was being extremely petty and anyone can sympathize with the kid. Yet, I feel like this is not half as traumatizing for Bobby as people said it is...

1. Everyone's assuming he likes ZZ because that's seems like the most sensible explanation for his actions. He could be an up and coming puritan who genuinely dislikes adult entertainers but doesn't know how to express it appropriately... but that doesn't explain why he has the DVD. He may well be a genuine troll, looking for attention... but that doesn't really explain why he'd go looking for kicks on a porn forum, of all places, or why he'd single out ZZ, nor why he'd keep doing it long enough to actually get her attention. Unless those forums are remarkably civilized, I can't imagine he's rocking the boat THAT much. Or maybe he's posted these kinds of comments about all the actresses on that DVD... but that just moves the problem from "he likes ZZ in particular" to "he likes several actresses, including ZZ." Still leads us back to "he's doing it because he likes her," so...

2. The mother's the main source of trauma here. Sure, ZZ is unironically evil in this, and certainly deserves her half of the blame, but it's the fact that HIS MOTHER WENT ALONG WITH IT WHILE KNOWING ZIGZAG INTENDED TO HURT HIM that's going to cause the real damage (realistically speaking). He doesn't know just how bad it really is (a small mercy, I suppose), but he still has to live the rest of his life knowing that his own mother was willing to hurt him to get laid. One really cannot stress enough just how impactful a parent's actions can be on their children; people will blame themselves for being abused for their entire lives, because it's genuinely better to believe your parents were responding to some flaw you had than accept that they simply didn't love you.

I'd also like to take this moment to point out just how much of the blame falls squarely on Helen's shoulders; she raised Bobby, knew about the DVD, and apparently couldn't pay enough attention to notice this problem before it got this far (not that I'd expect her to actually HELP her son, after this comic). Even if you want to argue her failures were caused by the trials and tribulations of single motherhood, that still puts the blame on her for her bad life choices, or her parents for theirs, NOT Bobby. Somehow the one person we're supposed to think is a villain is the one person who isn't (I mean, Jesus, even Sabrina just listens to this story without calling ZZ out or wanting to vomit).

shadownightmares said:

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suijin said:
Everyone's assuming he likes ZZ because that's seems like the most sensible explanation for his actions... He may well be a genuine troll, looking for attention... but that doesn't really explain why he'd go looking for kicks on a porn forum, of all places, or why he'd single out ZZ, nor why he'd keep doing it long enough to actually get her attention.

He probably likes every actress but Zig in that DVD. Probably seeing Zig “being in control” in the video made him have some righteous anger, due to masculinity. Bobby probably trolls numerous sites, but was caught by the most pettiest one.

That’s the whole problem of reading into Bobby’s character, or lack thereof. We could make a list of reasons of why but, because there’s so little to prove, none of them are concrete.

Being the most convenient answer doesn’t make it the only good one.

it's the fact that HIS MOTHER WENT ALONG WITH IT WHILE KNOWING ZIGZAG INTENDED TO HURT HIM that's going to cause the real damage (realistically speaking). He doesn't know just how bad it really is (a small mercy, I suppose), but he still has to live the rest of his life knowing that his own mother was willing to hurt him to get laid.

Zig said she wasn’t going to hurt him once she realize he is a minor. After she was willing to back away from this confrontation and drop the revenge, did Helen fully open up to her.

Other than bringing out his behavior, there’s no reason Helen (or even Bobby himself when it’s all said and done) believed that anything will result in emotional or physical trauma.

One really cannot stress enough just how impactful a parent's actions can be on their children; people will blame themselves for being abused for their entire lives, because it's genuinely better to believe your parents were responding to some flaw you had than accept that they simply didn't love you.

That’s a good point in of itself, but it means nothing here. She cared greatly for Bobby and nothing proved otherwise, especially with abuse. Yes, Zig saying “I had sex with your mom” is nothing compared to actual abusive and neglectful parents.

she raised Bobby, knew about the DVD, and apparently couldn't pay enough attention to notice this problem before it got this far

The only thing she could have done was monitor his online behavior. Which is never a easy thing.

If you meant the problems interpreted by the comments, not even loving parents could find that out.

Even if you want to argue her failures were caused by the trials and tribulations of single motherhood, that still puts the blame on her for her bad life choices, or her parents for theirs, NOT Bobby. Somehow the one person we're supposed to think is a villain is the one person who isn't.

Why is Bobby completely free of fault when his actions brought the problem to the door? Why is Helen evil here, when she’s being courteous to someone she looks up to? Because that person wanted revenge? A revenge that’s vague, and doesn’t hold any danger? Why are we now labeling these characters as completely good or bad, when the point of these stories is that they’re not?

(I mean, Jesus, even Sabrina just listens to this story without calling ZZ out or wanting to vomit).

1. Sabrina and Zig already recognizes it was a ridiculous, petty journey.

2. The worst thing that happened was that they had sex in a teen’s bed. In that case, change the sheets or get another bed.

Saying that just brings me back to my whole view on this. I appreciate this thread for the “coming to Jesus” moment and building a somewhat interesting interpretation out of it. But I can’t, for the life of me, see it as the one sole and defining reading here. Couldn’t see it two years ago, not the month I commented. Not even now, rereading to make sure I didn’t miss some evil undertones.

darkaura46 said:
He probably likes every actress but Zig in that DVD. Probably seeing Zig “being in control” in the video made him have some righteous anger, due to masculinity. Bobby probably trolls numerous sites, but was caught by the most pettiest one.

That's... quite the conclusion to jump to. What gives you the impression that he doesn't like women being in control (what's even the connection to "masculinity" there?), or that he only dislikes (what seems to be) the main star, or that he trolls anyone else regularly? Furthermore, that doesn't really answer the question: why troll a porn forum enough to get the CEO's attention? Forum's are trash in general, and porn often even more so (and of course his comments would be quickly weeded out if it was heavily moderated). People troll for attention. How much attention do you think he was getting, insulting a porn star on a porn forum?

That’s the whole problem of reading into Bobby’s character, or lack thereof. We could make a list of reasons of why but, because there’s so little to prove, none of them are concrete.

Uh...

Being the most convenient answer doesn’t make it the only good one.

Just... Occam's Razor my dude. Our conclusion relies on the "assumption" that he likes ZZ (it's no more an assumption than him arbitrarily hating her, since there's evidence for both, but whatever). Yours relies on... a FEW more: that there are multiple actresses getting significant screen time on that DVD, that he likes all of them, that he dislikes women in positions of power, etc.

Zig said she wasn’t going to hurt him once she realize he is a minor. After she was willing to back away from this confrontation and drop the revenge, did Helen fully open up to her.

Saying and doing are two different things, as it turns out. Unless you think ZZ rubbed it in Bobby's face for some reason OTHER than hurting him? And again, just because Bobby doesn't know how deep this rabbit hole goes doesn't minimize the harm here; his mother's letting ZZ do all of this, and even scolding him at the same time. She's certainly not HELPING him, when he really needs it.

Other than bringing out his behavior, there’s no reason Helen (or even Bobby himself when it’s all said and done) believed that anything will result in emotional or physical trauma.

Then she's an idiot. Children being traumatized by knowledge of their parents' sex life is a full on meme, for crying out loud, never mind someone actively using it as a form of revenge.

That’s a good point in of itself, but it means nothing here. She cared greatly for Bobby and nothing proved otherwise, especially with abuse. Yes, Zig saying “I had sex with your mom” is nothing compared to actual abusive and neglectful parents.

How is 'parents actions have an extreme effect on their children's psychological health' NOT applicable here? Whether she INTENDED to be a bad parent is utterly irrelevant, because: 1.she totally is, and 2. Bobby's going to BELIEVE she is. That's what's going to mess him up.

And yes, having someone you said mean things about online find out who you are, track you down and visit your house, then fuck your mother and tell you about it just to prove they CAN would be absolutely terrifying, especially for a teenager. Kid's never gonna trust online anonymity again. Or do you think that every 17 year old boy has a heart of stone without any emotional vulnerabilities to speak of?

The only thing she could have done was monitor his online behavior. Which is never a easy thing.

Should she not? 'It's hard' isn't really an excuse, raising a child properly is 'hard,' but that doesn't give anyone license to mess up someone else's life.

If you meant the problems interpreted by the comments, not even loving parents could find that out.

What, that their son has some emotional issues he needs to work out? That he needs someone to talk to? What problem do you think this kid has that a therapist can't possibly help?

Why is Bobby completely free of fault when his actions brought the problem to the door?

Because 1. He's a minor, molded by his parents' actions (or lack thereof), not an independent adult with full control over his own life, and 2. He did NOT bring ZZ "to the door," she abused her position to track him down for revenge over the most minor infraction imaginable. You can NOT argue that her actions are anything but her own, selfish choice.

Why is Helen evil here, when she’s being courteous to someone she looks up to? Because that person wanted revenge? A revenge that’s vague, and doesn’t hold any danger? Why are we now labeling these characters as completely good or bad, when the point of these stories is that they’re not?

1. "Being courteous" does not include having sex with someone, ESPECIALLY when you know the person you're having sex with wants revenge against someone you care about. 2. Revenge is revenge. She shouldn't be looking up to someone who'd go so far out of their way to hurt someone over something so silly, even if the harm isn't physical. Speaking of... 3. Just because she's not intending to stab him doesn't mean she can't hurt him, or isn't a danger. Again, the whole point I'm trying to make is that these kind of events CAN seriously harm someone's mental health. And finally 4. I'm labeling them "bad" (not good, I never said anything of the sort) because they are performing bad actions for bad reasons. Or are you arguing that tracking someone down with the intention of scaring them over some mean comments on the internet is completely justified?

1. Sabrina and Zig already recognizes it was a ridiculous, petty journey.

"Ridiculous" and "petty" are not the words I would use. ZZ comes across as downright psychotic if you stop to think about the full implications of her actions. Again, she is actively TRYING to hurt a minor, someone she knows can't defend himself.

2. The worst thing that happened was that they had sex in a teen’s bed. In that case, change the sheets or get another bed.

Ah yes, because nothing ever effects anyone mentally! It's the BED that's the issue! Not the whole finding out where he lives, or having sex with his mother, or rubbing that in his face, or even being treated like trash when he seems to be on the verge of a mental breakdown!

JUST the bed.

Saying that just brings me back to my whole view on this. I appreciate this thread for the “coming to Jesus” moment and building a somewhat interesting interpretation out of it. But I can’t, for the life of me, see it as the one sole and defining reading here. Couldn’t see it two years ago, not the month I commented. Not even now, rereading to make sure I didn’t miss some evil undertones.

I don't get the "coming to Jesus" comment, but I really can't believe you don't get why people find this so disgusting. Then again, you don't even seem to think such a reading as VALID (either that or you just really messed up the wording on that comment, genuinely can't tell which). It's a story about a CEO abusing her position to go and scare some rando with no power whatsoever, then deciding to go EVEN FARTHER when she finds out he's a minor, having sex with his mother just so she can try to traumatize him over it. You're welcome to enjoy that comic if you want, but don't try and defend it morally. Or at the very least come back with better arguments than 'well I didn't see it!'

Decide to read the response today after a not-so-good month. Just gonna say two things. First,

suijin said:
I really can't believe you don't get why people find this so disgusting. Then again, you don't even seem to think such a reading as VALID (either that or you just really messed up the wording on that comment, genuinely can't tell which).

Main actual point was I can’t see this situation being as completely insidious or traumatic.
I never meant to belittle or persuade anyone else for thinking otherwise. Sorry if the intentions was mixed. Just bringing out my opinions. And,

suijin said:
You're welcome to enjoy that comic if you want, but don't try and defend it morally. Or at the very least come back with better arguments than 'well I didn't see it!'

That’s a bit condescending, but that’s fine. I give up trying to argue about this porn comic.

ganbarise-king99 said:
You're thinking of the webcomic this act was inspired by, where the character involved actively causes the divorce, unlike in this where the parents are already divorced, and the only reason the Kid's okay with it later is because his dad was a bastard that was making his mom cry herself to sleep every night.

Zig never apologizes, gets his mom into the porn biz, and since he follows her stuff that means he probably ended up getting an eyefull or two of his mom getting fucked, either by Zig or one of her other employees.

Oh well that's not better at all. I think I would have preferred it if she apologized. Especially when she concluded in the same webcomic that it was a petty thing she did.

Hi, it's been a while. Took a break myself (always a good idea, in my opinion), finally dropped by again.

darkaura46 said:
Main actual point was I can’t see this situation being as completely insidious or traumatic.

Again, main points: Zigzag is explicitly trying to hurt him emotionally (she has no other reason to tell him about what happened), knowing full well that he can't really do anything about it because he's a minor. Meanwhile his mother, the one person who could realistically defend him in this situation, simply decides to go along with it, when she could be helping him in a far less... demeaning way.

There's no justification for it, they're just being mean, and if we're assuming he's immature enough to throw an online tantrum over a porno then we have to assume he's immature enough to at least hold a grudge about it afterwards. I mean, Zigzag is kind of justifying his hatred/resentment by being such a petty person, right?

But no, I fully understand wanting to just... not deal with someone like me. It's why I generally have a 'one response at a time' policy; just ignore me and I'll go away. Well, I mean, I'll still be here, on the site, so you might have the displeasure of seeing me again, but I won't chase you around the internet or anything. I generally try not to hold grudges.

Granted, I also try to be concise, and look how that goes...

Zig Zag:
You've been Trolled!
You've been Trolled!
You have probably been told.
Don't reply, to this guy;
he is just getting a rise,
out of you! Yes it's true,
you respond and thats his cue
to start trouble on the double
while he strokes his manly stubble
You've been Trolled!
You've been Trolled!
You should probably just fold
When the only winning move is not to play
And yet you keep on trying,
Mindlessly Replying.
You've been Trolled.
You've been Trolled.
Have a Nice Day!

Honestly I think the most realistic result of Zig's petty and needless jab at Bobby here is probably that he won't be able to look his mom in the eye or talk to her about anything without hearing those words on a loop, with the situation only worsening should he come across Zig's card somehow.
So, not only is he gonna be messed up from his dad abandoning him, he'll also have his relationship with his mom napalmed as well.
Best case scenario he just moves out as soon as he's old enough to, and just cuts both of his parents out of his life.

It’s time like this that remind me of an old song from YouTube.
“Doing your mom! Doing your mom!”

snowball-the-pro said:
It’s time like this that remind me of an old song from YouTube.
“Doing your mom! Doing your mom!”

https://youtu.be/qLpnTTb9V8o