Focus character looks more male than ambiguous, to me, but eh. If the mods think it's ambiguous, who am I to argue?

Yrcanis said:
It actually is a female.
Even the source is saying female.

If you're still unfamiliar with the 'TWYS ruleset, then I recommend you checking it out.

In summary, you tag what you see, not what you know. External info and text in the image have zero grounds to determine the gender of the character. The appearance is what matters.

Yrcanis said:
It actually is a female.
Even the source is saying female.

What hairnoi said. I was merely commenting that based on visual cues, it looks more masculine, to me, than ambiguous. I'm actually fully aware that Charr females are flat-chested, but that has little to do with tagging if we can't see the groin.

hairnoi said:
In summary, you tag what you see, not what you know. External info and text in the image have zero grounds to determine the gender of the character. The appearance is what matters.

You need external information to identify anything in a picture. They don't each contain definitions of gender. The debate is about what external information is common enough to assume: Is it "tag what you see," or "tag what you think the average viewer would see"?

I see a character that looks exactly like a female charr. This is because I have uncommon knowledge about sexual dimorphism in fictional cats.

Kaliyah is indeed a Female Charr (my Character to be more precise) with a somewhat unhealthy thing for BDSM related themes, sorry to disappoint.

blackbirdexusia said:
Kaliyah is indeed a Female Charr (my Character to be more precise) with a somewhat unhealthy thing for BDSM related themes, sorry to disappoint.

You're completely missing the point. We're not discussing what gender she IS, we're discussing what gender she APPEARS TO BE in this image. I was saying that she appears male in this, given the muscular arms, boxy figure, and androgynous-at-best face.

jacob said:
You're completely missing the point. We're not discussing what gender she IS, we're discussing what gender she APPEARS TO BE in this image. I was saying that she appears male in this, given the muscular arms, boxy figure, and androgynous-at-best face.

This character clearly has the physical attributes of a typical female for her species.

starshell said:
This character clearly has the physical attributes of a typical female for her species.

I am aware of that, which I've said already in an earlier comment on this very same post. We weren't discussing what the character's actual sex is, but what the tagging should be. I was saying that by site tagging rules, she appears male.

jacob said:
I am aware of that, which I've said already in an earlier comment on this very same post. We weren't discussing what the character's actual sex is, but what the tagging should be. I was saying that by site tagging rules, she appears male.

That is inconsistent with how virtually all other images of Charr are tagged.

starshell said:
That is inconsistent with how virtually all other images of Charr are tagged.

Only when feminine features are actually visible, do female Charr get tagged female. And considering the face and genitalia are about the only things that differentiate males and females when they're not side-by-side to compare size, and neither of those things are visible in this image...

jacob said:
Only when feminine features are actually visible, do female Charr get tagged female. And considering the face and genitalia are about the only things that differentiate males and females when they're not side-by-side to compare size, and neither of those things are visible in this image...

The tail is also a highly distinctive feature -- The males have terminal tufts, and less tail fur overall. Horn styles also differ between males and females. I'd argue that, even if male genitalia were visible in this image, it would be more appropriately tagged as gynomorph than male.

That said, you're correct that we technically don't know. A lore tag works fine enough here..

Guys. The person in the background literally says "good girl". Within the context of this image by itself, the character is clearly female.

This entire comment section is an example of why TWYS needs to be revoked in favour of actual, verifiable information on this site.