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randomguy85 said: The pride parades give me completely different feelings though, with the amount of oversexualization and children in the same place.
Yes, there should be same sex rights, but I'm not gonna lie, the LGBT community is going over the board these days.
A lot of my friends were going to pride and I've never attended one myself before, figured it would be great to experience it with friends and my guy crush but the child dancers was extremely off putting and disgusted me. It shouldn't have to be this way but that's too much for me
no_longer said: A lot of my friends were going to pride and I've never attended one myself before, figured it would be great to experience it with friends and my guy crush but the child dancers was extremely off putting and disgusted me. It shouldn't have to be this way but that's too much for me
In my opinion, pride parades will cause the opposite effect from the one they want to achieve, which is making the society believe that homosexual and transgender people are deviants that don't deserve equal rights. And I think it's because the movement has been invaded by people that want to normalize deviancy, and those are the people that the society thinks about when thinking about same sex rights or trans rights. It is essentially a sabotage of what LGBT movement was originally about.
And I do believe that no one should be persecuted for who they are, it's just that right now, instead of achieving that, we are achieving the opposite, and I have doubts about that changing anytime soon, which is concerning.
I agree... The pride parade in my town made it so so much harder for me to come out and be confident in my own feelings... I was like, I'm so gay, and I want to be gay, but I don't want to be them! I want to be a normal guy who doesn't get weird looks :/ Fortunately most of my friends understand this, they say I'm one of the chillest gay guys they've met.
sonofacreeper65 said: I agree... The pride parade in my town made it so so much harder for me to come out and be confident in my own feelings... I was like, I'm so gay, and I want to be gay, but I don't want to be them! I want to be a normal guy who doesn't get weird looks :/ Fortunately most of my friends understand this, they say I'm one of the chillest gay guys they've met.
then attend pride parade in a tshirt and khaki pants. If people give you wierd looks because they're too dumb to tell if you're wearing clothes or not at pride, that's on them.
randomguy85 said: The pride parades give me completely different feelings though, with the amount of oversexualization and children in the same place.
Yes, there should be same sex rights, but I'm not gonna lie, the LGBT community is going over the board these days.
I am a gay dude and I have always considered it the 2 steps back to our steps forward. When that level of degeneracy is some people's point of reference for gay people, it does only harm. And that makes me sad.
Remember the past, but forget the twisted perverted version it has become
zavros-periculum said: then attend pride parade in a tshirt and khaki pants. If people give you wierd looks because they're too dumb to tell if you're wearing clothes or not at pride, that's on them.
But like, that's the thing, I don't want to attend pride! I never did, I just don't like that when I tell people that I'm gay, they instantly picture the weirdos from the parades. I want the same charm of a straight couple, not the dildo costume of a gay parade, if you get what I mean :/
blakdiamond said: Buddy, Do you just browse the LGBT tag, Hating on EVERY SINGLE post you see? I'm browsing the tag and you comment something distasteful on SO many of the posts.
I don't know if he ment it that way, and I want to say that I didn't mean it that way either. LGBT is great, it's been a support system for many... I'm just talking from experience, then again maybe it's just my town having weird prides... I always found them more damaging than anything. I'm a functional human too, dangit! Not some kind of clown in a parade :(
blakdiamond said: Buddy, Do you just browse the LGBT tag, Hating on EVERY SINGLE post you see? I'm browsing the tag and you comment something distasteful on SO many of the posts.
I'm just being critical of how the LGBT movement is right now, I'm not completely against it, nor do I hate gay people. I just think that many things the LGBT movement is doing wrong and it could be done better. Critique =/= hate.
randomguy85 said: I'm just being critical of how the LGBT movement is right now, I'm not completely against it, nor do I hate gay people. I just think that many things the LGBT movement is doing wrong and it could be done better. Critique =/= hate.
I mean, there lots of better places to give your 'critique' on the LGBT movement than in the comments sections of specifically LGBT related furry art on a furry centered image site. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
randomguy85 said: The pride parades give me completely different feelings though, with the amount of oversexualization and children in the same place.
Yes, there should be same sex rights, but I'm not gonna lie, the LGBT community is going over the board these days.
In some way I do agree. Being gay isn't just about sex you can be gay and not be sexually active. I do think in some cases the gay community is sexualizing it a bit too much. I do believe that gay and straight relationships are the same but I do agree that the gay community should stop taking it so much on the sexual side. And also I'm gay myself and do at least agree there needs to be more of a community that's more PG rated so the youth in the LGBT can have more of an opening to it. And It's hard being gay and young so I do definitely think the gay community definitely should be more age appropriate.
gayfur said: In some way I do agree. Being gay isn't just about sex you can be gay and not be sexually active. I do think in some cases the gay community is sexualizing it a bit too much. I do believe that gay and straight relationships are the same but I do agree that the gay community should stop taking it so much on the sexual side. And also I'm gay myself and do at least agree there needs to be more of a community that's more PG rated so the youth in the LGBT can have more of an opening to it. And It's hard being gay and young so I do definitely think the gay community definitely should be more age appropriate.
Also another thing my boyfriend thinks the same about how the gay community is. There are some places we can agree on but we don't go to pride parades and we don't go to places too over sexualizing. We have been to like a gay camping ground before but they have their standards of you have to be 18 to be alone and under 18 has a curfew. So yeah I have been to a gay area before but not out in the open sexualizing. So I'm open to it but not going to a place where I do it in the open.
Feel the mood from the image and the comments. I'm glad that there is pride, but it also feels too overt and forced at times. Maybe it's just public perception, maybe is just Western sensibilities (I mean they got penis parades and parks in some Asian cultures, so there's that).
I think the point of pride is supposed to not be ashamed of who you are, flaws and all. Some people do take it too far, as far as I'm concerned, but it's not a mandate to watch or participate, so I'm fine with it being over there, and me being over here.
sonofacreeper65 said: I agree... The pride parade in my town made it so so much harder for me to come out and be confident in my own feelings... I was like, I'm so gay, and I want to be gay, but I don't want to be them! I want to be a normal guy who doesn't get weird looks :/ Fortunately most of my friends understand this, they say I'm one of the chillest gay guys they've met.
blakdiamond said: I mean, there lots of better places to give your 'critique' on the LGBT movement than in the comments sections of specifically LGBT related furry art on a furry centered image site. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sonofacreeper65 said: I agree... The pride parade in my town made it so so much harder for me to come out and be confident in my own feelings... I was like, I'm so gay, and I want to be gay, but I don't want to be them! I want to be a normal guy who doesn't get weird looks :/ Fortunately most of my friends understand this, they say I'm one of the chillest gay guys they've met.
So basically, a bunch of uneducated morons saw a Pride Parade and thought, "WHERE ARE THE OVERLYSEXUALIZED ANYTHING'S AND CHILDREN IN INAPPROPRIATE COSTUMES?!?!?", before proceeding to butcher Pride into something unrecognizable. This is why we can't have nice things.
Note that the author is Finnish. Wherever they live, Pride just might be different. American prudery is also probably irrelevant to their circumstances. (IIRC, Scandinavia in general has very little in the way of nudity taboos. It’s just too cold there for it to be relevant most of the time.)
Now, me, I object to the commercialization of Pride. But that’s a single instance of a problem spanning the broader world we live in.
faesra said: How to go from wholesome and relatable to unabashedly supporting the most trashy and hypocritical movement to ever curse our demographic in one strip:
I believe that you are referring to American pride parades, other pride activities are a lot better.
This comments section is insane. After the past few years I hope people realize just how necessary things like Pride are (and also how corporate pride ruins fucking everything). There are safe spaces for LGBTQ+ youth, sanitizing everything won't fix the problem.
But gods how it's been a LONG three years... I hope you all have been surviving well.
randomguy85 said: In my opinion, pride parades will cause the opposite effect from the one they want to achieve, which is making the society believe that homosexual and transgender people are deviants that don't deserve equal rights. And I think it's because the movement has been invaded by people that want to normalize deviancy, and those are the people that the society thinks about when thinking about same sex rights or trans rights. It is essentially a sabotage of what LGBT movement was originally about.
And I do believe that no one should be persecuted for who they are, it's just that right now, instead of achieving that, we are achieving the opposite, and I have doubts about that changing anytime soon, which is concerning.
Interesting point to raise. However I must question whether the people you claim are invading the movement to normalize indecency are simply kinky people who get pushed to the front of things either to intentionally discredit the movent or due to people paying attention to them alot and making them the public face of things, or wether they're truly bad actors up to no good.
There's also a debate to be had over how exactly the queer community should be presented to the public, and whether them portraying themselves as a run of the mill average person, instead of displaying the broad diversity present in the queer experience and the queer self, is a necessary stiffing of the human experience for the greater good or a flawed strategy that will never truly fufill the goal of dismantling hetero and cis normativity.
Although I will say this. The public friendly nature of pride events means kink either needs its own, seperate, section of an event that minors are barred from entering (a thing i've seen many organizations do), or it's own 18+ event.
amorphousmuse said: Note that the author is Finnish. Wherever they live, Pride just might be different. American prudery is also probably irrelevant to their circumstances. (IIRC, Scandinavia in general has very little in the way of nudity taboos. It’s just too cold there for it to be relevant most of the time.)
Now, me, I object to the commercialization of Pride. But that’s a single instance of a problem spanning the broader world we live in.
So I don't wanna discuss with anyone rn so just a reminder that you are valid and deservig of love no mater sexuality or gender identity, be safe out there folks
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randomguy85
BlockedThe pride parades give me completely different feelings though, with the amount of oversexualization and children in the same place.
Yes, there should be same sex rights, but I'm not gonna lie, the LGBT community is going over the board these days.
user 170309
MemberA lot of my friends were going to pride and I've never attended one myself before, figured it would be great to experience it with friends and my guy crush but the child dancers was extremely off putting and disgusted me. It shouldn't have to be this way but that's too much for me
randomguy85
BlockedIn my opinion, pride parades will cause the opposite effect from the one they want to achieve, which is making the society believe that homosexual and transgender people are deviants that don't deserve equal rights. And I think it's because the movement has been invaded by people that want to normalize deviancy, and those are the people that the society thinks about when thinking about same sex rights or trans rights. It is essentially a sabotage of what LGBT movement was originally about.
And I do believe that no one should be persecuted for who they are, it's just that right now, instead of achieving that, we are achieving the opposite, and I have doubts about that changing anytime soon, which is concerning.
sonofacreeper65
MemberI agree... The pride parade in my town made it so so much harder for me to come out and be confident in my own feelings... I was like, I'm so gay, and I want to be gay, but I don't want to be them! I want to be a normal guy who doesn't get weird looks :/
Fortunately most of my friends understand this, they say I'm one of the chillest gay guys they've met.
zavros-periculum
Memberthen attend pride parade in a tshirt and khaki pants. If people give you wierd looks because they're too dumb to tell if you're wearing clothes or not at pride, that's on them.
CamKitty
MemberI am a gay dude and I have always considered it the 2 steps back to our steps forward. When that level of degeneracy is some people's point of reference for gay people, it does only harm. And that makes me sad.
Remember the past, but forget the twisted perverted version it has become
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sonofacreeper65
MemberBut like, that's the thing, I don't want to attend pride! I never did, I just don't like that when I tell people that I'm gay, they instantly picture the weirdos from the parades. I want the same charm of a straight couple, not the dildo costume of a gay parade, if you get what I mean :/
sonofacreeper65
MemberI don't know if he ment it that way, and I want to say that I didn't mean it that way either. LGBT is great, it's been a support system for many... I'm just talking from experience, then again maybe it's just my town having weird prides... I always found them more damaging than anything. I'm a functional human too, dangit! Not some kind of clown in a parade :(
randomguy85
BlockedI'm just being critical of how the LGBT movement is right now, I'm not completely against it, nor do I hate gay people. I just think that many things the LGBT movement is doing wrong and it could be done better. Critique =/= hate.
BlakDiamond
MemberI mean, there lots of better places to give your 'critique' on the LGBT movement than in the comments sections of specifically LGBT related furry art on a furry centered image site. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gayfur
MemberIn some way I do agree. Being gay isn't just about sex you can be gay and not be sexually active. I do think in some cases the gay community is sexualizing it a bit too much. I do believe that gay and straight relationships are the same but I do agree that the gay community should stop taking it so much on the sexual side. And also I'm gay myself and do at least agree there needs to be more of a community that's more PG rated so the youth in the LGBT can have more of an opening to it. And It's hard being gay and young so I do definitely think the gay community definitely should be more age appropriate.
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Gayfur
MemberAlso another thing my boyfriend thinks the same about how the gay community is. There are some places we can agree on but we don't go to pride parades and we don't go to places too over sexualizing. We have been to like a gay camping ground before but they have their standards of you have to be 18 to be alone and under 18 has a curfew. So yeah I have been to a gay area before but not out in the open sexualizing. So I'm open to it but not going to a place where I do it in the open.
I messed up
MemberFeel the mood from the image and the comments. I'm glad that there is pride, but it also feels too overt and forced at times. Maybe it's just public perception, maybe is just Western sensibilities (I mean they got penis parades and parks in some Asian cultures, so there's that).
I think the point of pride is supposed to not be ashamed of who you are, flaws and all. Some people do take it too far, as far as I'm concerned, but it's not a mandate to watch or participate, so I'm fine with it being over there, and me being over here.
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CanisLupus35
Memberyo why the downvotes? they're kinda right.
Duskrose
MemberIt should be child friendly or about throwing bricks at cops no exceptions
Jean Boul
MemberSo basically, a bunch of uneducated morons saw a Pride Parade and thought, "WHERE ARE THE OVERLYSEXUALIZED ANYTHING'S AND CHILDREN IN INAPPROPRIATE COSTUMES?!?!?", before proceeding to butcher Pride into something unrecognizable. This is why we can't have nice things.
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Faesra
MemberHow to go from wholesome and relatable to unabashedly supporting the most trashy and hypocritical movement to ever curse our demographic in one strip:
amorphousmuse
MemberNote that the author is Finnish. Wherever they live, Pride just might be different. American prudery is also probably irrelevant to their circumstances. (IIRC, Scandinavia in general has very little in the way of nudity taboos. It’s just too cold there for it to be relevant most of the time.)
Now, me, I object to the commercialization of Pride. But that’s a single instance of a problem spanning the broader world we live in.
MeowMeg
MemberI believe that you are referring to American pride parades, other pride activities are a lot better.
PuroPuroPrisoner
MemberOh if only it stayed this way
EngineerVRGaming
MemberMy parents still throw bricks at me whenever they see my boyfriend.
TheDragonRider
MemberThis comments section is insane. After the past few years I hope people realize just how necessary things like Pride are (and also how corporate pride ruins fucking everything). There are safe spaces for LGBTQ+ youth, sanitizing everything won't fix the problem.
But gods how it's been a LONG three years... I hope you all have been surviving well.
Library~Wanderer
MemberInteresting point to raise. However I must question whether the people you claim are invading the movement to normalize indecency are simply kinky people who get pushed to the front of things either to intentionally discredit the movent or due to people paying attention to them alot and making them the public face of things, or wether they're truly bad actors up to no good.
There's also a debate to be had over how exactly the queer community should be presented to the public, and whether them portraying themselves as a run of the mill average person, instead of displaying the broad diversity present in the queer experience and the queer self, is a necessary stiffing of the human experience for the greater good or a flawed strategy that will never truly fufill the goal of dismantling hetero and cis normativity.
Although I will say this. The public friendly nature of pride events means kink either needs its own, seperate, section of an event that minors are barred from entering (a thing i've seen many organizations do), or it's own 18+ event.
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Library~Wanderer
MemberTheir Finnish? Do you have a source for that?
Atumalaca
MemberSo I don't wanna discuss with anyone rn so just a reminder that you are valid and deservig of love no mater sexuality or gender identity, be safe out there folks
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