karen taverndatter and maren taverndatter (twokinds) created by tom fischbach
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Maren and Karen Ref Sheet

All you need to know about the tavern sisters, Maren and Karen, suggested by Mediawatcher!

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Fun extra fact: Maren and Karen were the 3rd and 4th characters I designed, right after Keith (#1) and Raine (#2), and before even Trace and Flora. In the beginning, they were going to have elf-like ears. The fact that they were elves really didn't have any baring on the story at all, and I decided I didn't want to muddle things, so I took elves out altogether and made them human.

Karen is often depicted with two sets of ears, but I've been drawing the human ears less and less, since it is a bit weird when I think about it. XD

Nude edit 1: https://i.imgur.com/p8OIBIf.jpg
Nude edit 2: https://i.imgur.com/pLQZzTZ.png
Color edit1: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/56521853/
Color edit 2: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/56521883/

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  • When this get voted to be colored, I hope there’s a gif version for Karen’s color changing swimsuit.

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  • whitewolfdog said:
    I thought Humans were not allowed to be posted to E621? mined yeah, Karen isn't necessary "human" now is she?

    Karen is considered (as far as I see) as a "Feline humanoid", the nekogirl of all of your life but without tail, that is enough "animal" to be posted here (but beign honest i tought too that it wouldn't be posted here, but here is it, and thats pretty good because the Tom's Devianart is a scrapyard that is pretty difficult to search images or previous sketches if they we're of Maren or another human of TK)

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  • neko-taro said:
    Karen is considered (as far as I see) as a "Feline humanoid", the nekogirl of all of your life but without tail, that is enough "animal" to be posted here (but beign honest i tought too that it wouldn't be posted here, but here is it, and thats pretty good because the Tom's Devianart is a scrapyard that is pretty difficult to search images or previous sketches if they we're of Maren or another human of TK)

    Actually it’s allowed because it falls under “allowed if related to something that otherwise normally involves furry characters”

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  • ottovonbismarck2643 said:
    Actually it’s allowed because it falls under “allowed if related to something that otherwise normally involves furry characters”

    I guess that doesn’t apply to the Twokinds pictures that only feature humans, like the recent Raine/Maren bikini one, since those get taken down.

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  • rmaster454 said:
    I guess that doesn’t apply to the Twokinds pictures that only feature humans, like the recent Raine/Maren bikini one, since those get taken down.

    Yup I uploaded the Rein and Maren bikini pic and it got taken down.
    Disappointing.
    I'm still trying to figure out why e621 stopped allowing edits.

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  • rmaster454 said:
    I guess that doesn’t apply to the Twokinds pictures that only feature humans, like the recent Raine/Maren bikini one, since those get taken down.

    Yeah, I have had other Twokinds sketches I uploaded get taken down because there were only human characters in it, despite them being characters from a series that is full of furry characters.

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  • geckos1218 said:
    Yup I uploaded the Rein and Maren bikini pic and it got taken down.
    Disappointing.
    I'm still trying to figure out why e621 stopped allowing edits.

    'cause Tom asked for unofficial edits to be DNP.

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  • tendotwo said:
    No he didn't, Tom said he doesn't care about the edits.

    Then why didn't he bother to come here and say to the mods "So, I'm fine with unofficial edits being posted here"?
    There's three possibilities:
    A. He doesn't know this rule is in effect
    B. He knows this rule is in effect and agrees with it
    C. He is the one who personally asked for that

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  • tsukiyomaruzero said:
    Then why didn't he bother to come here and say to the mods "So, I'm fine with unofficial edits being posted here"?
    There's three possibilities:
    A. He doesn't know this rule is in effect
    B. He knows this rule is in effect and agrees with it
    C. He is the one who personally asked for that

    You forgot the fourth option:
    The mods did it of their own free will. Why? Because of "low quality edit" complaints. Besides edits Tom himself did were removed he even mentioned his surprise that no one did certain kinds in the description in a few.

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  • tsukiyomaruzero said:
    Then why didn't he bother to come here and say to the mods "So, I'm fine with unofficial edits being posted here"?

    Because e621 isn't his turf, he doesn't visit here and doesn't care what's going on here. He's not in charge of the rules of other people's porn sites and doesn't interfere with their rules one way or another. You have an inflated view of this site's significance if you think that most creators pay slightest attention to this place.

    Tom had nothing to do with the edit ban, one way or another. The mods decided it for themselves because they didn't want to struggle with the ephemeral concept of "low effort edit", any more. There was a tiff with one of the editors who got annoyed with constant deletions and said that with the logic his work is being removed, they should just remove the edits altogether. And that's what they ended up doing.

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  • iago1 said:
    Because e621 isn't his turf, he doesn't visit here and doesn't care what's going on here. He's not in charge of the rules of other people's porn sites and doesn't interfere with their rules one way or another. You have an inflated view of this site's significance if you think that most creators pay slightest attention to this place.

    Tom had nothing to do with the edit ban, one way or another. The mods decided it for themselves because they didn't want to struggle with the ephemeral concept of "low effort edit", any more. There was a tiff with one of the editors who got annoyed with constant deletions and said that with the logic his work is being removed, they should just remove the edits altogether. And that's what they ended up doing.

    So the entire thing isn't the mods fault. Case closed. Move on.

    Really, it's infuriating to open a twokinds post and see people constantly nagging because "uwu, we culd lewd dis, but mods bad nu want edit"

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  • tsukiyomaruzero said:
    'cause Tom asked for unofficial edits to be DNP.

    STOP SPREADING THIS MISINFORMATION BS.

    Taken DIRECTLY from Tom's own FAQ:

    Q: Can I adapt your work?

    Yes. You may modify, translate, or redistribute any of my non-commercial work. You may use my characters and settings, or draw inspiration for your own work. For all the details and restrictions, visit my Licensing page.

    Tom. Didn't. Request. DNP. Status. It was a decision of the mods. Tom had nothing to do with it.

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  • ottovonbismarck2643 said:
    Actually it’s allowed because it falls under “allowed if related to something that otherwise normally involves furry characters”

    Yeeeaaah I dont discredit the law "tag what you see" but if the mods that take down "human-only" images that involves Raine (that TECHNICALLY can be cathegorized as a sorta of werewolf because her almost uncontrolled transformation) then actually need to change some laws here and there because seems like they dont investigate before taking down pictures

    Although that, im not saying no one is the devil's lawyer, just say that they work a bit like the Youtube's algorithm but 80% better than the last mentioned, lets be honest: if the Youtube's algorithm would be put in here, ANY picture that contains at least a bit of human in any way it would be taken down ASAP ;w;

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