juniper, lyre belladonna, fan character, sidra romani, kaz mercais, and etc (pokemon mystery dungeon and etc) created by 007delta and gingy k fox
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  • This whole exchange has been interesting and this comic has become much more than what I expected. It's been years since a comic on the site has me coming back almost every day to check for updates.

    One thing that intrigues me is how negatively people see Misu. From my perspective her seemingly uncaring attitude comes from confidence and experience. She is crude but we have also have evidence she is competent on how she rebuilt the guild and has strong members. Her low prices and desire to help the town by never denying help also shows this. I think the intention of the authors is to show us a flawed character who will be redeemed later on. That is my prediction anyways, she is my favorite character along with Sidra and Bolero.

    I would also like to know more about their levels. I suspect Bolero and Lyre(since he opted to not evolve) are the strongest after Misu who is level 77.

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  • moonbird said:
    This whole exchange has been interesting and this comic has become much more than what I expected. It's been years since a comic on the site has me coming back almost every day to check for updates.

    One thing that intrigues me is how negatively people see Misu. From my perspective her seemingly uncaring attitude comes from confidence and experience. She is crude but we have also have evidence she is competent on how she rebuilt the guild and has strong members. Her low prices and desire to help the town by never denying help also shows this. I think the intention of the authors is to show us a flawed character who will be redeemed later on. That is my prediction anyways, she is my favorite character along with Sidra and Bolero.

    I would also like to know more about their levels. I suspect Bolero and Lyre(since he opted to not evolve) are the strongest after Misu who is level 77.

    People disliking Misu mainly taking this whole event as a joke. Assuming doing some good deeds will magically change the town's thoughts on them. To be honest, this comic is being played out as realistic. The town folks isn't going to change their minds because Misu being cheap on their jobs, the folks dislike them because the guild is acting like a whorehouse with how slutty they are.

    No, people don't like Misu because she act. People dislike her for how selfish she is because when the topic started to get heated, she was yelling about not wanting the town to tell her much sex she's allowed to have. No, that's not her confidence. That's her thinking about herself and trying to grab at straws to try to get a leg to stand on. No, doing some jobs, as I said before, won't magically change the town Pokemon minds from a few kind acts. Said 'kind acts' being a rather hard sell to the folks in world for many reasons. One of which the guild members basically jump folks to get their needs, regardless where they are or what is damaged due to their acts.

    Bolero is in the right in this, pretty much from the get-go as he seems to care for the guild itself, not use it as a place to spray the walls with whatever Pokemon's seed that's there that day. Bolero been said he get his job done without the use of his tool between his legs. He does his job and help trying to get the guild afloat.

    Meanwhile Misu is looking for excuses to say she's in the right. No, she coming in and taking over the guild doesn't excuse how's its being ran right now. What she done in the past isn't being shown right now. Acting cocky in the face of basically doom of the guild in a month won't change how the town feels, nor will it clear the memories the Pokemon who fact those unwanted sexual stuff they walked in on in common areas.

    If Misu was this great leader as folks say she is, than why is the guild is in the state it is now? How'd a good guild leader be if the town hate them? Is it a good guild folks refer to them as a "Sex Cult"? Is it a good leadership that basically one member of the guild is pretty much bringing in the money for the guild monthly? Is it a good leader that the town is seeking outside help to get the jobs they need done because they can't trust the guild in their town?

    To be honest here, folks seem to just ignore things because sex.

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  • the_shinx said:
    People disliking Misu mainly taking this whole event as a joke. Assuming doing some good deeds will magically change the town's thoughts on them. To be honest, this comic is being played out as realistic. The town folks isn't going to change their minds because Misu being cheap on their jobs, the folks dislike them because the guild is acting like a whorehouse with how slutty they are.

    No, people don't like Misu because she act. People dislike her for how selfish she is because when the topic started to get heated, she was yelling about not wanting the town to tell her much sex she's allowed to have. No, that's not her confidence. That's her thinking about herself and trying to grab at straws to try to get a leg to stand on. No, doing some jobs, as I said before, won't magically change the town Pokemon minds from a few kind acts. Said 'kind acts' being a rather hard sell to the folks in world for many reasons. One of which the guild members basically jump folks to get their needs, regardless where they are or what is damaged due to their acts.

    Bolero is in the right in this, pretty much from the get-go as he seems to care for the guild itself, not use it as a place to spray the walls with whatever Pokemon's seed that's there that day. Bolero been said he get his job done without the use of his tool between his legs. He does his job and help trying to get the guild afloat.

    Meanwhile Misu is looking for excuses to say she's in the right. No, she coming in and taking over the guild doesn't excuse how's its being ran right now. What she done in the past isn't being shown right now. Acting cocky in the face of basically doom of the guild in a month won't change how the town feels, nor will it clear the memories the Pokemon who fact those unwanted sexual stuff they walked in on in common areas.

    If Misu was this great leader as folks say she is, than why is the guild is in the state it is now? How'd a good guild leader be if the town hate them? Is it a good guild folks refer to them as a "Sex Cult"? Is it a good leadership that basically one member of the guild is pretty much bringing in the money for the guild monthly? Is it a good leader that the town is seeking outside help to get the jobs they need done because they can't trust the guild in their town?

    To be honest here, folks seem to just ignore things because sex.

    Yeah shit, a sex comic with a deep, kinda emotional story and ambiguous personalities is just what we need here every once in a while. With a high quality art style too at that.

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  • nas-leafeon said:
    Yeah shit, a sex comic with a deep, kinda emotional story and ambiguous personalities is just what we need here every once in a while. With a high quality art style too at that.

    Legit I'm honestly /not/ looking forward to the future sex scenes anymore simply because they hold up the plot. I like them as side comics like with Sidra's recent one. But yeah, I've gotten so invested in the characters and story that any sex that isn't plot relevant is a speed bump now.

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  • the_shinx said:
    People disliking Misu mainly taking this whole event as a joke. Assuming doing some good deeds will magically change the town's thoughts on them. To be honest, this comic is being played out as realistic. The town folks isn't going to change their minds because Misu being cheap on their jobs, the folks dislike them because the guild is acting like a whorehouse with how slutty they are.

    No, people don't like Misu because she act. People dislike her for how selfish she is because when the topic started to get heated, she was yelling about not wanting the town to tell her much sex she's allowed to have. No, that's not her confidence. That's her thinking about herself and trying to grab at straws to try to get a leg to stand on. No, doing some jobs, as I said before, won't magically change the town Pokemon minds from a few kind acts. Said 'kind acts' being a rather hard sell to the folks in world for many reasons. One of which the guild members basically jump folks to get their needs, regardless where they are or what is damaged due to their acts.

    Bolero is in the right in this, pretty much from the get-go as he seems to care for the guild itself, not use it as a place to spray the walls with whatever Pokemon's seed that's there that day. Bolero been said he get his job done without the use of his tool between his legs. He does his job and help trying to get the guild afloat.

    Meanwhile Misu is looking for excuses to say she's in the right. No, she coming in and taking over the guild doesn't excuse how's its being ran right now. What she done in the past isn't being shown right now. Acting cocky in the face of basically doom of the guild in a month won't change how the town feels, nor will it clear the memories the Pokemon who fact those unwanted sexual stuff they walked in on in common areas.

    If Misu was this great leader as folks say she is, than why is the guild is in the state it is now? How'd a good guild leader be if the town hate them? Is it a good guild folks refer to them as a "Sex Cult"? Is it a good leadership that basically one member of the guild is pretty much bringing in the money for the guild monthly? Is it a good leader that the town is seeking outside help to get the jobs they need done because they can't trust the guild in their town?

    To be honest here, folks seem to just ignore things because sex.

    I mostly agree but I feel I should play some slight devil's advocate since it's not terribly black and white between those two.

    Misu got a raw deal being the one to clean up after the previous guild leader after his shenanigans. Public opinion is not easily swayed (especially when trying to salvage a negative reputation). Even if she did a bang-up job it's not likely their reputation would be in the clear from that alone.

    I do think that it's both her confidence and her selfishness at play rather than one or the other. She has to put her foot down as leader but she does have a streak of needlessly starting shit like how she keeps teasing/irritating Bolero. It may not be the first time she's resorted to that sort of petty behavior but we don't exactly have a proper "past" established to clearly say. They do have a history to keep in mind.

    I don't think her flippantly blowing off the idea of regulating the sex is even remotely proper but Bolero also did not get the point across that they should control when and where they have sex rather than how much sex they have (the town's concern). Bolero's attempts to keep sex off his mind (because he has sex-related emotional baggage he is avoiding shown much earlier on in the comic) backfires on him because the guild is known for its sex-related methods of solving problems. Rather than reaching the logical middle ground he avoided it as a solution altogether because he is actively suppressing anything to do with sex as much as possible.

    They were both rather emotionally charged about it all in all. Neither really came to the most diplomatic points needed but that's just how real arguments happen. Easy to get caught up in the moment when you're stuck in it instead of spectating like us.

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  • the_shinx said:

    No, people don't like Misu because she act. People dislike her for how selfish she is because when the topic started to get heated, she was yelling about not wanting the town to tell her much sex she's allowed to have. No, that's not her confidence. That's her thinking about herself and trying to grab at straws to try to get a leg to stand on. No, doing some jobs, as I said before, won't magically change the town Pokemon minds from a few kind acts. Said 'kind acts' being a rather hard sell to the folks in world for many reasons. One of which the guild members basically jump folks to get their needs, regardless where they are or what is damaged due to their acts.
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    Bolero is in the right in this, pretty much from the get-go as he seems to care for the guild itself, not use it as a place to spray the walls with whatever Pokemon's seed that's there that day. Bolero been said he get his job done without the use of his tool between his legs. He does his job and help trying to get the guild afloat.
    To be honest here, folks seem to just ignore things because sex.

    I think I understand better now, it's not her demeanor people have trouble with but her handling of the issue and the way she handles the guild. I think it boils doing to a difference on perspective about if the guild is right or not. I don't see them as a whorehouse because they mostly keep to themselves and get the job done. I think the point of the reports scene was to show they are mostly successful and strong. Bolero is right they have bad PR though.

    When Misu said the town has no business with how much sex she has I agreed with her. She doesn't have to inhibit herself because of the perceptions of others if she is not hurting anyone. I think the town has ran with the idea they are indeed a sex cult and once gossip is popular it is easy to demonize them ending with their current predicament. The only time I thought Misu dealt a low blow was how she called Bolero out on having no guild before she arrived. This shows me she is petty and doesn't always takes the high ground. Other wise she was matching Bolero's demeanor like she they both said "Worry about yourself".

    I do want clarify I'm not trying to prove I'm right, I don't necessarily think I am. I just want to understand how other people have such a different view on the character. This is a surprisingly well written comic to be having such a conversation.

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  • Mia go to him! Heal your zebstrika with the purity that is you!

    Also it seems like Mia herself is starting to question Misu as a guildmaster....that hurt look on her is heartbreaking

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  • I'm just waiting for Guzma to walk in and pop a 'Y'alls dumb!' on then at this rate.

    Misu using Bolero's own words against him struck a personal nerve with me, as I have had people use my own comments much like that against me. That sort of deflection shows a lack of commitment, a lack of understanding, and a direct attempt to purposely anger someone in an attempt to shift blame onto them.

    I want to walk in there and slap some sense into her. Being flippant and doing nothing isn't gonna solve shit. Act.

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  • ezlo said:
    I want to walk in there and slap some sense into her. Being flippant and doing nothing isn't gonna solve shit. Act.

    Exactly, and is especially pathetic traits on a guild leader

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  • poppysardine said:
    Holy shit, you guys are pumping out essays like everyday is a semester final

    It's the sign of an invested audience! I actually come back to these comments every so often just because I personally like seeing how invested people are in talking about the comic and it's characters. It's quite fun and good to see.

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  • That last panel makes me question if Misu really is the strongest in the guild, that looks like some concern.

    That or maybe the Morpeko running her brain made her realise that maybe there was some truth to Bolero's words after all.

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  • thatguy75 said:
    Is that a hint of "Maybe that was a bit to far.." on Misu's face?

    eh maybe if you mean misu thinks Bolero took it too far...i mean he did take out a door...it's one thing to leave in a huff , or slam the door but i think she more or less in a "really you had to take out a door" 😐 type of mood. because in the end she is kinda right... they can clea. up their act but still have thay stigma...or they can be themselves and despite that still help out the townsfolk in the end they will probably see the banker go mad as he has gone broke and wanderlust has still remained...not to mention the drama is he sends pokemon to try and force them out

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  • Are we all gonna just ignore the fact that the only reason this page is tagged as explicit is because of Lyre's lil' balls below the table?

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  • aquahavok said:
    Are we all gonna just ignore the fact that the only reason this page is tagged as explicit is because of Lyre's lil' balls below the table?

    thb, I don't really understand why there's an explicit-rating system in this website. Like does anyone here actually filter out the adult stuff in this adult website? It's like going to Pornhub to find cat videos.

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  • Looking at Misu's whole deal, I think she just came in at the worst possible time; this is the lowest point the guild (and comic) has been so far. Any character that would otherwise seem quirky or upbeat would feel extremely out of place and tone deaf, really. Remember, this is the first time we're seeing her in action, so we only have this super negative lens to look at her with. Misu could have been much better at reading the room, yes, but no one was really speaking about what was wrong until that bubble awkwardly burst. She's the villain here mostly due to context; if she appeared at any other time, I imagine she'd be seen in a much better light.

    Imagine what we would all think of Bolero if this angry outburst was our first exposure to him; we'd think he's a raging hothead. And since Bolero's pretty much introduced to us by how much he goes against the grain of everyone else in the guild, it would have taken surprisingly little for us to detest him and his presence. In fact, the only reason we don't see him in a 100% negative light is because of his interactions with Mia, rather than his virtues as an individual.

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  • thatguy75 said:
    thb, I don't really understand why there's an explicit-rating system in this website. Like does anyone here actually filter out the adult stuff in this adult website? It's like going to Pornhub to find cat videos.

    It is an archival website, just because the vast majority of it is porn doesn't mean people aren't using it to source other images they find circulated without any sliver of credit.

    Edit: So yes, being able to filter out the porn is extremely useful.

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  • tastydonuts6 said:
    That last panel makes me question if Misu really is the strongest in the guild, that looks like some concern.

    That or maybe the Morpeko running her brain made her realise that maybe there was some truth to Bolero's words after all.

    I think she is just concerned because this is a shitty situation. It seems she used to get along with Bolero and Mia early on.

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  • tastydonuts6 said:
    That last panel makes me question if Misu really is the strongest in the guild, that looks like some concern.

    That or maybe the Morpeko running her brain made her realise that maybe there was some truth to Bolero's words after all.

    I doubt it. If Misu wasn't the strongest than I see no reason why she would be leader over anyone else. I think its more concern for her guild mates than herself. Misu acts like an ass but she's not heartless by any means.
    If I had to guess, I'd believe she's concerned for Mia's well-being, as she appears clearly distressed by the event. She may even be worried for Bolero, following a reaction like that.

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  • You know, everyones talking about whether misu or bolero are in the right and whos really got the guilds best intrests at heart and im just here thinking "why cant mia leave the guild building?". Bolero stated earlier that she cant leave, and thats got me super curious cause he most definately did not mean that she doesnt have anywhere to go, and most certainly meant that she literally cannot leave the guild.

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  • Holy walls-of-text in a comment section of a porn site, batman!

    On another note: This is getting both interesting and frustrating at the same time.

    Also: Poor Mia...

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  • the_shinx said:
    People disliking Misu mainly taking this whole event as a joke. Assuming doing some good deeds will magically change the town's thoughts on them. To be honest, this comic is being played out as realistic. The town folks isn't going to change their minds because Misu being cheap on their jobs, the folks dislike them because the guild is acting like a whorehouse with how slutty they are.

    No, people don't like Misu because she act. People dislike her for how selfish she is because when the topic started to get heated, she was yelling about not wanting the town to tell her much sex she's allowed to have. No, that's not her confidence. That's her thinking about herself and trying to grab at straws to try to get a leg to stand on. No, doing some jobs, as I said before, won't magically change the town Pokemon minds from a few kind acts. Said 'kind acts' being a rather hard sell to the folks in world for many reasons. One of which the guild members basically jump folks to get their needs, regardless where they are or what is damaged due to their acts.

    Bolero is in the right in this, pretty much from the get-go as he seems to care for the guild itself, not use it as a place to spray the walls with whatever Pokemon's seed that's there that day. Bolero been said he get his job done without the use of his tool between his legs. He does his job and help trying to get the guild afloat.

    Meanwhile Misu is looking for excuses to say she's in the right. No, she coming in and taking over the guild doesn't excuse how's its being ran right now. What she done in the past isn't being shown right now. Acting cocky in the face of basically doom of the guild in a month won't change how the town feels, nor will it clear the memories the Pokemon who fact those unwanted sexual stuff they walked in on in common areas.

    If Misu was this great leader as folks say she is, than why is the guild is in the state it is now? How'd a good guild leader be if the town hate them? Is it a good guild folks refer to them as a "Sex Cult"? Is it a good leadership that basically one member of the guild is pretty much bringing in the money for the guild monthly? Is it a good leader that the town is seeking outside help to get the jobs they need done because they can't trust the guild in their town?

    To be honest here, folks seem to just ignore things because sex.

    Seriously? Because it sounds like, despite the flack she's getting from everyone, she does care. She's not just doing anything for her own amusement. The town hired mercenaries, and she's refusing to budge even in a bad situation, and she's still planning to help these people later, without laughing at the fact that the town could go broke.

    Mia can be selfish, but she's still capable, stubborn, and faithful to what she believes the path before her shows.

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  • k-rayen91 said:
    You know, everyones talking about whether misu or bolero are in the right and whos really got the guilds best intrests at heart and im just here thinking "why cant mia leave the guild building?". Bolero stated earlier that she cant leave, and thats got me super curious cause he most definately did not mean that she doesnt have anywhere to go, and most certainly meant that she literally cannot leave the guild.

    there was one page i believe where they state why she can't leave.

    sadly, i don't remember which exact page.

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  • Re-Reading this and taking a closer look at the panels. It could also be possible it's dawning on Misu how close she was from being the door '_'...

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  • markgamerx said:
    Are you alive bro? 15 days and nothing ;-;

    Uploads have been on hiatus, they plan to resume uploads this week. The reasons are in their discord.

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  • That door was an innocent bystander caught in the crossfire of a feud between Bolero and Misu. That door did not deserve to be kicked down like that.

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