Aw I feel so bad for her because freya is acts like a jealous bitch to her and she just wants to be with kaz, It really breaks my heart you know.

clawhoof19971172 said:
Aw I feel so bad for her because freya is acts like a jealous bitch to her and she just wants to be with kaz, It really breaks my heart you know.

All this is telling me is that Riley makes for a far better main character then Freya.

alexandermugetsu said:
All this is telling me is that Riley makes for a far better main character then Freya.

Agreed freya is not main character material especially the way she acts towards Riley.

Daaaaawwwwwww 💙❤️ this prime shipping back story right here 💙❤️

clawhoof19971172 said:
Aw I feel so bad for her because freya is acts like a jealous bitch to her and she just wants to be with kaz, It really breaks my heart you know.

I still want the two 'vees to get together.

alexandermugetsu said:
All this is telling me is that Riley makes for a far better main character then Freya.

clawhoof19971172 said:
Aw I feel so bad for her because freya is acts like a jealous bitch to her and she just wants to be with kaz, It really breaks my heart you know.

imagine dating someone and then someone tries to steal your date away, and then when you get mad people say "wow how bitchy,"

clawhoof19971172 said:
Agreed freya is not main character material especially the way she acts towards Riley.

She probably just doesn't know the backstory between how they met.

Omg that's so frickin wholesomne

jolt2231 said:
imagine dating someone and then someone tries to steal your date away, and then when you get mad people say "wow how bitchy,"

Are they even officially dating? Kaz is plowed by so many others like Juniper and it almost seems like it's more like she just gets really jealous.

Like we've seen plenty where they are together yes, but I genuinely cannot remember any scenes which states they are a couple.

zregs said:
Are they even officially dating? Kaz is plowed by so many others like Juniper and it almost seems like it's more like she just gets really jealous.

Like we've seen plenty where they are together yes, but I genuinely cannot remember any scenes which states they are a couple.

The only reason they can't be a couple is if you openly deny any circumstantial evidence and only take "if they openly say they're dating they are dating."

Disregarding that, even if they aren't dating, there's far more of a leaning towards them being together than not being so. They are so directly involved with each other in any scene they're together with, and the writers play around with the idea of the two being together so much...

In fact Riley's sole existence in this story so far is, essentially, "possibly cucking Freya."

Freya is not being bitchy for wanting to be with the one she loves and actively disliking the person trying to take the one she loves away from her.

Out of curiosity... What's around her neck?

jolt2231 said:
The only reason they can't be a couple is if you openly deny any circumstantial evidence and only take "if they openly say they're dating they are dating."

Disregarding that, even if they aren't dating, there's far more of a leaning towards them being together than not being so. They are so directly involved with each other in any scene they're together with, and the writers play around with the idea of the two being together so much...

In fact Riley's sole existence in this story so far is, essentially, "possibly cucking Freya."

Freya is not being bitchy for wanting to be with the one she loves and actively disliking the person trying to take the one she loves away from her.

I mean that's Junipers role already if that's the case of "cucking Freya". Given how she seems to be staking her own claim to him by directly at one point calling him her mate. https://e621.net/posts/2155665

In fact she's directly done so. https://e621.net/posts/2108866 Thus the issue of "Are they actually officially dating?" which is my major question.

zregs said:
Are they even officially dating? Kaz is plowed by so many others like Juniper and it almost seems like it's more like she just gets really jealous.

Like we've seen plenty where they are together yes, but I genuinely cannot remember any scenes which states they are a couple.

zregs said:
I mean that's Junipers role already if that's the case of "cucking Freya". Given how she seems to be staking her own claim to him by directly at one point calling him her mate. https://e621.net/posts/2155665

In fact she's directly done so. https://e621.net/posts/2108866 Thus the issue of "Are they actually officially dating?" which is my major question.

Well, the character portrayal here is rather inconsistent and has even been retconned recently, but the reason why the vees aren't a couple used to be Kaz priority on astronomy post

Freya has stated not to mind sharing him (like with Sidra) and you could even see her with Juniper as well post #1689805 post #1736965

My guess is that the rivalry with Juniper is due to her dominant behavior and wanting to monopolize Kaz's attention, I don't think they actually dislike each other. But again, these posts have been retconned.

As for Riley, to my understandment she plays a joke on being one of the fans that won't get to have her way with a guild member (along with Dexter) due to Kaz naivety and Freya's jealousy. This jealousy is now excused because Riley wants Kaz in a more romantic way as proven in this post.

All we have to know now is if Freya does know the reason of Riley's crush on the umbreon. If she does, then I understand why some would call her greedy or a bitch, but if she doesn't then we could guess that she simply doesn't likes the persian and this feeds up to her role as a joke.

daydreamsun said:
Well, the character portrayal here is rather inconsistent and has even been retconned recently, but the reason why the vees aren't a couple used to be Kaz priority on astronomy post

Freya has stated not to mind sharing him (like with Sidra) and you could even see her with Juniper as well post #1689805 post #1736965

My guess is that the rivalry with Juniper is due to her dominant behavior and wanting to monopolize Kaz's attention, I dont think they actually dislike each other. But again, this posts have been retconned.

As for Riley, to my understandment she plays a joke on being one of the fans that won't get to have her way with a guild member (along with Dexter) due to Kaz naivety and Freya's jealousy. This jealousy is now excused because Riley wants Kaz in a more romantic way as proven in this post.

All we have to know now is if Freya does know the reason of Riley's crush on the umbreon. If she does, then I understand why some would call her greedy or a bitch, but if she doesn't then we could guess that she simply doesn't likes the persian and this feeds up to her role as a joke.

That's fair

zregs said:
I mean that's Junipers role already if that's the case of "cucking Freya". Given how she seems to be staking her own claim to him by directly at one point calling him her mate. https://e621.net/posts/2155665

In fact she's directly done so. https://e621.net/posts/2108866 Thus the issue of "Are they actually officially dating?" which is my major question.

That's a fair point, let's see how they continue this stuff in the future

the relationship between freya kaz and juniper is comlicated because juniper raped kaz when they first met. you may say that he liked and likes it but maybe he actually fears juniper and pleases her to avoid her wrath instead of desiring her.

tuna123 said:
the relationship between freya kaz and juniper is comlicated because juniper raped kaz when they first met. you may say that he liked and likes it but maybe he actually fears juniper and pleases her to avoid her wrath instead of desiring her.

I don't think a raped individual would display "<3_eyes" while on the act. Besides, the reason why Kaz let Juniper fuck him at will is due to his kindness and submissive nature as stated by he post #1917269

And I would say that he feels completely comfortable being left with her alone post #1924194

daydreamsun said:
I don't think a raped individual would display "<3_eyes" while on the act. Besides, the reason why Kaz let Juniper fuck him at will is due to his kindness and submissive nature as stated by he post #1917269

And I would say that he feels completely comfortable being left with her alone post #1924194

In first post he openly states that it is about her feelings and doesn't even imply his own which can be said for the second too.

when i said pleasing i didnt mean only sexually; for all we know, he is befriending her just to make sure she doesn't continue abusing him... and to be honest i see that potential in her.

At this point, I don't know who I want to ship Kaz with.