Okay, at the risk of being violently unicorn-impaled by every pony lover here, this cannot be unambiguously identified as Rainbow Dash simply from a tuft of pubic hair that may just happen to be dyed in a(n incomplete) rainbow pattern.

If nobody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags tomorrow.

If somebody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags yesterday.

GreyMaria said:
Okay, at the risk of being violently unicorn-impaled by every pony lover here, this cannot be unambiguously identified as Rainbow Dash simply from a tuft of pubic hair that may just happen to be dyed in a(n incomplete) rainbow pattern.

If nobody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags tomorrow.

If somebody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags yesterday.

In the words of the artist, "Dashie Belly! "
Yeah, You should leave those tags up.

SirAntagonist said:
In the words of the artist, "Dashie Belly! "
Yeah, You should leave those tags up.

Remember "tag what you see"? Yeah, it means you pay no fucking attention to what the ARTIST or COMMISSIONER or OWNER OF THE CHARACTER says it is.

And you know what I see? I don't see "Rainbow Dash" unambiguously. I see "some blue-skinned/furred girl with weird half-rainbow-dyed pubes".

GreyMaria said:
Remember "tag what you see"? Yeah, it means you pay no fucking attention to what the ARTIST or COMMISSIONER or OWNER OF THE CHARACTER says it is.

And you know what I see? I don't see "Rainbow Dash" unambiguously. I see "some blue-skinned/furred girl with weird half-rainbow-dyed pubes".

well I see Rainbow Dash.
And so does the artist.
And you need yo chill out.

i only clicked on this because the thumb looked like the vagina was on the belly....

but i see it was just belly hair.... XD

This should not be tagged as Rainbow Dash, it doesn't matter what you see. You cannot use previous knowledge of a character to tag a picture.
Example: A picture of Twilight with a hat covering her horn. You cannot tag the picture as unicorn, because in that picture, she IS an earth pony. Period.

Also, there is no indication that this is a pony or equine so those tags are also wrong. It could simply be a human with blue skin.

GreyMaria said:
Okay, at the risk of being violently unicorn-impaled by every pony lover here, this cannot be unambiguously identified as Rainbow Dash simply from a tuft of pubic hair that may just happen to be dyed in a(n incomplete) rainbow pattern.

If nobody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags tomorrow.

If somebody objects, I'm nuking the pony tags yesterday.

i would love to know, who'd dye their pubes, let alone dye them green, blue and purple...

KurogamiRyuta said:
i would love to know, who'd dye their pubes, let alone dye them green, blue and purple...

This character, clearly.

This is not unambiguously Rainbow Dash, there is no indication that it is a horse, pony, or otherwise an MLP character. Blue skin and rainbow hair are not enough.

I think you're all just MLP: FIM haters who can't stand the idea that this awesomely hot pic might be RD and not some generic character. You just can't take the idea that you might be fapping to a pony, so you're all doing everything in your power to deny that this is, in fact, a pony from MLP: FIM; hiding behind technicalities to do so. IF the artist says its Rainbow Dash, then it's freakin' Rainbow Dash. Deal with it.

These comments are the dumbest fucking things I've seen today.

Artist says "Rainbow Dash". Haters say "Unknown Species". Seems totally legit.

Homuhomu said:
A picture of Twilight with a hat covering her horn. You cannot tag the picture as unicorn, because in that picture, she IS an earth pony. Period.

If that's the case fucking EVERYTHING is speculation.

If you can't see the back of Fluttershy she lost her wings.

If a character's leg is hidden behind something it's an amputee.

If it looks like a Charizard, it could just be a very Charizard like dragon.

Any FIM OC could be labeled without MLP or FIM because it could just be in that style, actually have a connection to the show.

Hey, dumbass bronies. Pardon my calling you as I see you (this is like tagging what you see, but with observing people's behaviors!), but I'm going to tell you to stop being the aforementioned dumbasses you are and stop assuming that we're hating. I happen to LIKE pony, very much even, but I still have a fully appropriate point by saying that this cannot be unambiguously identified as Rainbow Dash.

So yeah. Leave it to the overzealous bronies to overreact.

It's a tough call, really. Although there's nothing in the image to indicate the character or species other than the fur color, people searching rainbow dash would probably want to see this, so both arguments carry a degree of validity. But I'm still leaning toward not.

so is this tagging bullshit a meme i'm missing? because frankly, as someone who went to fucking 4th grade, i can use context clues to determine that this is a picture of a cretin character. Better yet, lets ask the artist instead of getting our dicks in a twist?

don_cutter said:
so is this tagging bullshit a meme i'm missing? because frankly, as someone who went to fucking 4th grade, i can use context clues to determine that this is a picture of a cretin character. Better yet, lets ask the artist instead of getting our dicks in a twist?

"Tag what you see" means that you're not allowed to use information outside of the picture itself to decide how the image is to be tagged. This means everything from "The artist says the character is a herm, but she's wearing pants and doesn't have a bulge, so she actually looks female, so the picture should be tagged female and not herm" to "This isn't unambiguously Rainbow Dash; it doesn't matter what the artist (or a bunch of whiny bronies) says, it shouldn't be tagged Rainbow Dash".

ippiki_ookami said:
It's a tough call, really. Although there's nothing in the image to indicate the character or species other than the fur color, people searching rainbow dash would probably want to see this, so both arguments carry a degree of validity. But I'm still leaning toward not.

Respectfully, I always thought the purpose of the rule was for the searchers; for example, if an artist says a character is 500 years old, but they look like they're 7, you should still tag it cub because people into cub art will enjoy the size difference and apparent age.

People searching for 'tummy', 'blue_body', etc. will still get this image if it is tagged as Rainbow Dash, but if we don't tag it as Rainbow Dash then people who might enjoy the image for the character won't be able to find it.

For the sake of search optimization, I would vote for leaving the tag in; but I recognize you are an administrator, so your vote ultimately decides.

Time to blacklist rainbow_hair.

Kejah said:
Time to blacklist rainbow_hair.

It's like you don't even understand that this isn't guaranteed pony. Jackass pony-hating flamebaiter troll.

GreyMaria said:
It's like you don't even understand that this isn't guaranteed pony. Jackass pony-hating flamebaiter troll.

Except that the artist is a pony artist. The artist explicitly states it's rainbow dash. The blue skin matches Rainbow's color, and the pubes make the carpet match the curtains. If you're going to kill the pony tags on this you have to kill them on:
http://e621.net/post/show/257045/
and these since you can't explicitly see a cutie mark
http://e621.net/post/show/191437/
http://e621.net/post/show/191436/
http://e621.net/post/show/222220/
You can't see a cutie mark so they're just normal anthro horses. Tag what you see right?
But just to fix that: http://lil-miss-pics.tumblr.com/post/33608299455/dashie-belly

THE PICK IS TITLED DASHIE BELLY!

Now quit being a power mad whacko. Do your job right and quit whining.

WhiteStarPony said:
Ownage

In b4 banned for making mod cry.

http://derpiboo.ru/124121
You're also famous on Derpibooru now.

Sorry to say but it is rainbow dashs belly http://lil-miss-jaye.tumblr.com/page/2 scroll down and youll find the image. Argument over

Ha, comments that prove the mod wrong get deleted. Doesn't stop that he's now the "power mad e621 mod" on the other boorus. Way to go on getting internet fame the wrong way Grey.

It's time to put this out there: http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/BAhbBlsHOgZmSSIBkDIwMTIvMTAvMTYvMDZfMTlfNDRfODExXzEyNDEyMV9fVU5PUFRfX3JhaW5ib3dfZGFzaF9zdWdnZXN0aXZlX3F1ZXN0aW9uYWJsZV9mdXJyeV9hcnRpc3RfbGlsX21pc3NfamF5X3N0dXBpZGl0eV9jb21tZW50c19mYWNlcGFsbV9idXR0X2h1cnRfZTYyMQY6BkVU/124121__rainbow-dash_suggestive_questionable_meta_furry_artist-lil-miss-jay_stupidity_comments_facepalm_butt-hurt_e621.jpg

lol drama

What a bunch of retarded overzealous bronies. Y'know, it's jerkasses like you that make people (and a good portion of the bronies, too) hate bronies.

Also, I like how all these fourteen year old know-it-all whiners seem to think I'm staff here.

WhiteStarPony said:
Ha, comments that prove the mod wrong get deleted. Doesn't stop that he's now the "power mad e621 mod" on the other boorus. Way to go on getting internet fame the wrong way Grey.

Maria isn't a mod (as she just said above), and the posts were not deleted. They were downvoted. Notice in your own screenshot there's a link saying '4 comments below threshold'.

Personally I disagree with Maria on this one, but she's a good friend of mine, and I can vouch for her being part of the fandom. She doesn't hate ponies, just sometimes 'bronies' tend to go over-the-top - especially with assumptions.

I realize she may not have handled this situation as delicately as she should have to avoid drama, but people like you are just as or even more at fault for throwing gasoline at a candle.

This is why I hate the "tag what you see, not what you know" rule. The artist said that this was Rainbow Dash, yet people say that his words don't matter? What fucking right do they have to decide something about someone else's picture? That rule either needs to be removed or changed so that the artist's word is law regarding their picture, otherwise shit like this will always happen.

GreyMaria said:
It's like you don't even understand that this isn't guaranteed pony. Jackass pony-hating flamebaiter troll.

Time to blacklist natalie_(greymaria)
le ironic shitpost face xD

Everyone stop arguing over this, and if you must debate it, keep it civilized. Next person to rant is going to get in trouble.

Conclusion: bronies are hilarious.

RBrim08 said:
This is why I hate the "tag what you see, not what you know" rule. The artist said that this was Rainbow Dash, yet people say that his words don't matter? What fucking right do they have to decide something about someone else's picture? That rule either needs to be removed or changed so that the artist's word is law regarding their picture, otherwise shit like this will always happen.

This is the thing. I hate the rule too, and I also think it's flawed. I'm an artist, I said that my character was a herm, but an admin came in and stated "THIS IS A MALE THIS IS GAY SEX" so I had to deal with that. Eventually they realized it was ambiguous_gender after a giant flame war. Ya know, it's just the rule of the website you're on. We're trying to explain it to you ponies, but you all just don't get it. .w.

Homuhomu said:
This is the thing. I hate the rule too, and I also think it's flawed. I'm an artist, I said that my character was a herm, but an admin came in and stated "THIS IS A MALE THIS IS GAY SEX" so I had to deal with that. Eventually they realized it was ambiguous_gender after a giant flame war. Ya know, it's just the rule of the website you're on. We're trying to explain it to you ponies, but you all just don't get it. .w.

Flawed rules should be fixed, not ignored. The artist's words should matter in a picture, not what other people see.

RBrim08 said:
Flawed rules should be fixed, not ignored. The artist's words should matter in a picture, not what other people see.

See the only problem is that when people type into that search bar, they are expecting it to return exactly what they type in. Our users don't know all characters intended genders, and it would be unreasonable to expect otherwise; so when they search for a male character and they see breasts, they aren't going to hunt down the info where the artist explained it was a herm or such.

We simply want the search function to return the most accurate results possible

Caught another guy trying to mistag this.

I would say its rainbow dash not only because this artist does lots of anthromorphic clop and that if they found this they would find more too. Seeing as most of the pictures are obviously clop even though these are obscured they should still contain both mlp and non mlp tags regardless; so that people who don't want to see it can avoid it and those who do can continue to have accurate searches.

The author if this piece, Lil Miss Jay, in his Tumblr, has said this IS Rainbow Dash.

Plus the pubes are rainbow colored and the blue shade matches Dash's. Come on.

Dum-dums.

Nitro836 said:
The author if this piece, Lil Miss Jay, in his Tumblr, has said this IS Rainbow Dash.

Plus the pubes are rainbow colored and the blue shade matches Dash's. Come on.

Dum-dums.

Some asshole wanted to troll people so he got the admins all riled up, and in order to not seem like hypocrites, they insist on changing proper tags.

There are THOUSANDS of images that admins insist on not changing and yet THIS is the one they focus on.

Thanks to the admins feeding the troll, it is a real pain in the ass to find this image now.

TheFrozenOne said:
Some asshole wanted to troll people so he got the admins all riled up, and in order to not seem like hypocrites, they insist on changing proper tags.

There are THOUSANDS of images that admins insist on not changing and yet THIS is the one they focus on.

Thanks to the admins feeding the troll, it is a real pain in the ass to find this image now.

Nitro836 said:
The author if this piece, Lil Miss Jay, in his Tumblr, has said this IS Rainbow Dash.

Plus the pubes are rainbow colored and the blue shade matches Dash's. Come on.

Dum-dums.

Substitute 'troll' with 'lobsterban.'

Everyone, calm down, this aint ma belly, there, now you have undeniable proof

Every time I come back here to fix the tags, I find new comedy gold awaiting me.

You guys are awesome assholes. :3

Everyone keeps pushing the whole "tag what you see" thing when tagging images and yet the admins will allow the 'lol_comments' tag.

Wow, just wow. Should I add the rainbow_dash tag because Rainbow Dash made a comment?

My god, if you are going to start being tag-Nazi's at least be consistent.

TheFrozenOne said:
Everyone keeps pushing the whole "tag what you see" thing when tagging images and yet the admins will allow the 'lol_comments' tag.

Wow, just wow. Should I add the rainbow_dash tag because Rainbow Dash made a comment?

My god, if you are going to start being tag-Nazi's at least be consistent.

the lol_comments tag refers to drama in the comments section. I think...

tesladragon said:
I think you're all just MLP: FIM haters who can't stand the idea that this awesomely hot pic might be RD and not some generic character. You just can't take the idea that you might be fapping to a pony, so you're all doing everything in your power to deny that this is, in fact, a pony from MLP: FIM; hiding behind technicalities to do so. IF the artist says its Rainbow Dash, then it's freakin' Rainbow Dash. Deal with it.

I fap to ponies all the time. It's just the rule, it's no big deal. Rainbow dash is hot as hell, but there's no need to get all worked up about tags for a single picture :P

said:
Tag what you see

I see Rainbow Dash.

This isn't vandalization. Retard.

For all I can tell, going only by the picture, she's an Andorian with a rainbow hair fetish. :/

it's a smurf, obviously...

Derpy's_Augar said:
This isn't vandalization. Retard.

Because calling one of your administrators "retard" isn't a perfectly wonderful way to get booted right off the site.

GreyMaria said:
"Tag what you see" means that you're not allowed to use information outside of the picture itself to decide how the image is to be tagged. This means everything from "The artist says the character is a herm, but she's wearing pants and doesn't have a bulge, so she actually looks female, so the picture should be tagged female and not herm" to "This isn't unambiguously Rainbow Dash; it doesn't matter what the artist (or a bunch of whiny bronies) says, it shouldn't be tagged Rainbow Dash".

I just wanted to point out that if this was true, any character tag is technically invalid. As is any artist tag on pictures without signatures of some sort.

Nevan said:
I just wanted to point out that if this was true, any character tag is technically invalid. As is any artist tag on pictures without signatures of some sort.

I think you're misunderstanding what is meant by outside information. You can use outside information, so long as the information is not directly related to the image itself. So you can use outside information of who/what rainbow dash is, but not what someone said about this specific image. You can use outside information of other artist's galleries as well. Or in short, you can use outside information for definitions, but you use the image to match outside information, not use outside information to match the image.

Solid body hue:
200

Non-gradient hair hues:
110
211
266

Find a character with that color combination before taking off the Rainbow Dash tag.

DrHorse said:
Solid body hue:
200

Non-gradient hair hues:
110
211
266

Find a character with that color combination before taking off the Rainbow Dash tag.

>>People have already been banned for doing exactly what you just did.
>You do it anyway.

Are you braindead or something?

blah blah add rainbow_dash get banned blah blah. you know the drill

"-"Whew! That was some work-out! Lookit the sweat I worked up!"

Who knew ponies could sweat?

Dashie has best six-pack.

Well, until Applejack's tummy comes along.

For now, Dashie.

Where's her wings? Fuggoff! That's where her wings are!

Rainbow Pubies" - jrvanesbroek

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9201949/

Are we done now?

jumpingcatfish said:

Translated by GreyMaria:
But it's OBVIOUSLY Rainbow Dash! Look! The artist said so, so I must be right, even by e621's rules!

No.

Totally deserving of lol_comments tag.

40 comments below threshold wtf?!

WHEEEEE
New TWYS rule makes me not an asshole and correct in the long run!

SirAntagonist said:
WHEEEEE
New TWYS rule makes me not an asshole and correct in the long run!

Seven months later I laugh for the fact that it didn't affect this battle at all, as the character tags are still missing from the list.

I'm not going to fix that. The war will go on anyway if "restarted".

ASOLF said:
Seven months later I laugh for the fact that it didn't affect this battle at all, as the character tags are still missing from the list.

I'm not going to fix that. The war will go on anyway if "restarted".

Eh. Whatever.

Looks like Ippiki was the one who nuked the pony tags, so I'm not going to bother adding them, even though it completely assblasts this exception to TWYS. Maybe the rule was retracted later on. Dunno.

Some of the mods insert their discretion over the rules. It's just something you gotta ignore.

Man, after reading the comments, now I just think its a Smurf. Like legit it looks like a smurf

Durav said:
Holy shit, did anybody in the comments even read the tagging rules? You don't tag because the artist says it's dash, you tag because you see Dash.

SirAntagonist said:
this exception to TWYS]

Which is in the rules. Ironic.

Imuthes said:
Which is in the rules. Ironic.

This is one of the images that caused the change to the rules to happen. Ironically it made tagging images like these really ....bad. the only reason they think it's rd is because the rainbow stuff, blue skin, and the outside knowledge of the source page. Kinda stupid, if I dumped my fursona skunk in a vat of blueberry juice, painted her pubic hair rainbow tie dye, and hid her tail she would probably get tagged rd even though it's the wrong species.

Esme_Belles said: if I dumped my fursona skunk in a vat of blueberry juice, painted her pubic hair rainbow tie dye, and hid her tail she would probably get tagged rd even though it's the wrong species.

Thanks to those "stupid" rules, said character could appropriately be tagged as a cosplayer instead. See how that works, now?