This comic is really cute tbh :)

This is easily my favorite comic on the site, and something I look forward to every week. Keep up the great work :)

Ok sorry if this comes of as offensive I’m genuinely curious but why wouldn’t he get the surgery for a penis at the same time as the chest reconstruction is it that expensive also would the same apply to rose

sp0c3 said:
Ok sorry if this comes of as offensive I’m genuinely curious but why wouldn’t he get the surgery for a penis at the same time is the chest reconstruction is it that expensive also would the same apply to rose

Penis surgery, and gender confirmation surgery for AFAB people in general, is far behind surgeries for AMAB people. Joss has had his breasts removed, but that's a pretty straightforward surgery that's performed for many reasons. It would be another thing entirely to give him a penis.

Another thing out of genuine curiosity and respect is that I've always wondered how the genitals of somebody when went from male to female and visa versa looks. Like, how does it differ from what we're used to seeing? Would you be able to tell the difference? If so, how?

I also wonder how the female to male surgery is done. I know that you can actually get a prosthetic penis (first F2M surgery ever was done like this) but I also heard that you can actually kinda turn the clitoris to a sort of penis somehow? I'm not sure how much fact there is to what I've read or how well I understood it to begin with.

If anybody has any knowledge or images I would be delighted if you shared them. These things are so fascinating and it'd be nice to be more aware and educated on the matter.

octophile said:
Another thing out of genuine curiosity and respect is that I've always wondered how the genitals of somebody when went from male to female and visa versa looks. Like, how does it differ from what we're used to seeing? Would you be able to tell the difference? If so, how?

I also wonder how the female to male surgery is done. I know that you can actually get a prosthetic penis (first F2M surgery ever was done like this) but I also heard that you can actually kinda turn the clitoris to a sort of penis somehow? I'm not sure how much fact there is to what I've read or how well I understood it to begin with.

If anybody has any knowledge or images I would be delighted if you shared them. These things are so fascinating and it'd be nice to be more aware and educated on the matter.

Vaginoplasty is pretty advanced at this point. A neovagina both looks like and operates like pretty much any other vagina. Compared to that, phalloplasty is a little behind, but from the few transmasc folks I know who have had that operation, it's still decent. Of course there's also the possibility of genital transplants, though from what I've seen there are very few (if any) trans people that have gotten one.

sp0c3 said:
Ok sorry if this comes of as offensive I’m genuinely curious but why wouldn’t he get the surgery for a penis at the same time is the chest reconstruction is it that expensive also would the same apply to rose

As long as you're genuinely curious and not bothered if someone doesn't wanna answer, it's generally not rude to ask. You can usually tell if someone's genuinely asking or if they're just being a flaming douchebag.

beautybeau said:
This comic is really cute tbh :)

chankaboi said:
This is easily my favorite comic on the site, and something I look forward to every week. Keep up the great work :)

Yes, that is him, and we're slowly getting closer to the grand finale.

Aw Joss. I think any size or shape would do too :)

henhen129 said:
Aw Joss. I think any size or shape would do too :)

hehe. I don't think Joss understands the problems with haveing one

damn wrong button again

error_just_no said:
hehe. I don't think Joss understands the problems with haveing one

More likely he just doesn’t care

sp0c3 said:
More likely he just doesn’t care

i agree with you

I'm not 100% sure I can get away with this, but I found a link to a reliable website that explains the phalloplasty surgery wonderfully Here.

This website also provides some images Here.

Let's all love each-other, yeah? 👐

hinikon said:
words words words

To be blunt, it is for health-related reasons. Many (though not all) trans people have gender dysphoria due to the disconnect between their assigned gender and their actual gender, which often leads to depression and anxiety among other things. Transition-related procedures, including but not limited to hormone replacement therapy and surgeries, can help alleviate this dysphoria.

(PS: What a person chooses to do to their body is, quite frankly, none of your business.)

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?
With all respect to those who have done such thing(i think people sholud have right to change their body{tatoos, pircing...}and ability to off themsalve without anybody permition{if you know that you'll die from cancer and that there is no hope for you, and you know you would die in pain... They it seams resonable to... You know...
:( ...}.
Like... You are literly f up your body, for instance tatoos are soooooooo strange to me, i get it they look nice and all BUT they are for the reast of your life(lesors f up your skin pigmentation soooo they leave a mark).
And changing gender seams like another level to that.
You are just throwing away working boddy parts for non functional(fully) body parts of oposing sex, to look like oposing seex you need to change bone structure of your: hips, hin, sholders and everything that i don't know of as i'm not a biology expert.
Like... Can't you talk to yoursalve and aknowlage that regardles of how you look you are all fine and dandy? Do you rl think that such change will be for best? How can you tell? You know, you allways can talk to yoursalve in your head and have a ted talk with yoursalve if one of the many reasons for your gender change(or just any body change rl) is how you look at yoursalve, you should examine what experiences mage your perspective regarding such judgment and decide whether it is rl right.
(Ps. I'm against people having kids, ps. ps. i do not promote that you should do anything nor not do anything with your body, I'm just asking. )

Why people change their bodies for non-medical reasons? Because it's their body and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it for all I care. Just dont do it to an extent where it could harm yourself or something like that.

hinikon said:
(ignorant blabber)

Maybe you think you're aware but you are absolutely not.

emilysylveon said:
To be blunt, it is for health-related reasons. Many (though not all) trans people have gender dysphoria due to the disconnect between their assigned gender and their actual gender, which often leads to depression and anxiety among other things. Transition-related procedures, including but not limited to hormone replacement therapy and surgeries, can help alleviate this dysphoria.

(PS: What a person chooses to do to their body is, quite frankly, none of your business.)

PLEASE listen to what this person is saying.

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?
With all respect to those who have done such thing(i think people sholud have right to change their body{tatoos, pircing...}and ability to off themsalve without anybody permition{if you know that you'll die from cancer and that there is no hope for you, and you know you would die in pain... They it seams resonable to... You know...
:( ...}.
Like... You are literly f up your body, for instance tatoos are soooooooo strange to me, i get it they look nice and all BUT they are for the reast of your life(lesors f up your skin pigmentation soooo they leave a mark).
And changing gender seams like another level to that.
You are just throwing away working boddy parts for non functional(fully) body parts of oposing sex, to look like oposing seex you need to change bone structure of your: hips, hin, sholders and everything that i don't know of as i'm not a biology expert.
Like... Can't you talk to yoursalve and aknowlage that regardles of how you look you are all fine and dandy? Do you rl think that such change will be for best? How can you tell? You know, you allways can talk to yoursalve in your head and have a ted talk with yoursalve if one of the many reasons for your gender change(or just any body change rl) is how you look at yoursalve, you should examine what experiences mage your perspective regarding such judgment and decide whether it is rl right.
(Ps. I'm against people having kids, ps. ps. i do not promote that you should do anything nor not do anything with your body, I'm just asking. )

Just as a starter, I would recommend not saying things like “throwing away” or prefacing your genuine questions with borderline insults and assumptions that could piss off someone who would offer you an answer.

But to the topic, these people know fully well that these things are permanent, and that is generally the point. Some people have genuine beliefs in their minds that they are of a gender they were not born with, and this is almost always due to a theorized abnormality in their brain which causes their consciousness to assign themselves psychologically with a gender contradictory to what they have. They have higher rates of mental disorders which are believed to be a result of their world being opposed to their very own existence, and as you can probably understand, the idea of that can be heavy on someone’s psyche. For many people, changing their outward appearance to match that of their inner belief helps them to settle themselves and be more comfortable.

In short, imagine if you, exactly as you are right now, woke up tomorrow and realized your body was 100% different to what your mind KNEW you looked like yesterday. Although you know something like changing genders in your sleep is something very near impossible, it has 100% happened. I bet you would probably be distressed and be fairly willing to undergo a surgery to alter your body to match what you KNOW it should look like. If you didn’t, I’d also bet that you’d hate your “new” body, and you might even sink low enough to hate your life because of it.

At least, that’s my pessimistic view of the whole thing. I have no personal experience with this, but many close friends of mine suffer from these kinds of thoughts due to very similar circumstances. Take my explanation with a grain of salt.

On a less serious note:

I know this is drawn art, but whoever did his reduction surgery deserves a pat on the back, because I have seen NO scars and that’s fantastic!

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?

from what ive gathered from trans people; its very health related. not in the desease sense, but very much in the sense that its killing you to remain doing what you are doing. like a job thats perfectly functional, gives you the money you need, but is not the right fit for you, everyone else seems fine doing that job, but its slowly grinding you down to the point where either it has to stop or you will.

thats gender dysphoria, but besides that theres also gender euphoria, just the realization that life starts clicking into place by being the other gender. like having a job that really resonates with you. you'd gladly do it even if it has some bad in it, it just makes life that much more doable.

its a tough choice to make, and people do not take these choices lightly as a fad. you do decide to make your life signifigantly harder by transitioning, but it can be worth it.

I too do not feel like getting tattoos because no art will ever be good enough XD and I rather also not change anything about my body. but I can understand why others do it; a tattoo is not forever, you only live like 70 more years max, a mistake is not even that big of a deal. better to take risks to find happyness then to lock yourself up in misery.

bravo's said:
On a less serious note:

I know this is drawn art, but whoever did his reduction surgery deserves a pat on the back, because I have seen NO scars and that’s fantastic!

the fur is covering it up, but also the two lines I draw are lil scar signs X) though the real reason is I generally dont like mixing sexy with the images surgeries put in my mind XD so I keep it light.

thatfunbun said:
the fur is covering it up, but also the two lines I draw are lil scar signs X) though the real reason is I generally dont like mixing sexy with the images surgeries put in my mind XD so I keep it light.

I was thinking that might be what those lines were right after the comment, but still, art surgeon deserves a medal. I also understand the reasons from an art standpoint as well. Either way, the stories and the art are all wonderful, thank you for sharing with us!

bravo's said:
On a less serious note:

I know this is drawn art, but whoever did his reduction surgery deserves a pat on the back, because I have seen NO scars and that’s fantastic!

The fur probably helps.

Joss wants to be one of the guys. he doesn't need to try so hard for that. there is plenty of adult "toys" that can achieve this. though it is an interesting lore drop that he at one point had small-sized breasts.

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?
With all respect to those who have done such thing(i think people sholud have right to change their body{tatoos, pircing...}and ability to off themsalve without anybody permition{if you know that you'll die from cancer and that there is no hope for you, and you know you would die in pain... They it seams resonable to... You know...
:( ...}.
Like... You are literly f up your body, for instance tatoos are soooooooo strange to me, i get it they look nice and all BUT they are for the reast of your life(lesors f up your skin pigmentation soooo they leave a mark).
And changing gender seams like another level to that.
You are just throwing away working boddy parts for non functional(fully) body parts of oposing sex, to look like oposing seex you need to change bone structure of your: hips, hin, sholders and everything that i don't know of as i'm not a biology expert.
Like... Can't you talk to yoursalve and aknowlage that regardles of how you look you are all fine and dandy? Do you rl think that such change will be for best? How can you tell? You know, you allways can talk to yoursalve in your head and have a ted talk with yoursalve if one of the many reasons for your gender change(or just any body change rl) is how you look at yoursalve, you should examine what experiences mage your perspective regarding such judgment and decide whether it is rl right.
(Ps. I'm against people having kids, ps. ps. i do not promote that you should do anything nor not do anything with your body, I'm just asking. )

Before trying to act like a psychologist or a biologist, maybe try not to spell like a middle schooler. Talk to "yoursalve" and "aknowladge" how stupid you sound.

emilysylveon said:
To be blunt, it is for health-related reasons. Many (though not all) trans people have gender dysphoria due to the disconnect between their assigned gender and their actual gender, which often leads to depression and anxiety among other things. Transition-related procedures, including but not limited to hormone replacement therapy and surgeries, can help alleviate this dysphoria.

(PS: What a person chooses to do to their body is, quite frankly, none of your business.)

bravo's said:
Just as a starter, I would recommend not saying things like “throwing away” or prefacing your genuine questions with borderline insults and assumptions that could piss off someone who would offer you an answer.

But to the topic, these people know fully well that these things are permanent, and that is generally the point. Some people have genuine beliefs in their minds that they are of a gender they were not born with, and this is almost always due to a theorized abnormality in their brain which causes their consciousness to assign themselves psychologically with a gender contradictory to what they have. They have higher rates of mental disorders which are believed to be a result of their world being opposed to their very own existence, and as you can probably understand, the idea of that can be heavy on someone’s psyche. For many people, changing their outward appearance to match that of their inner belief helps them to settle themselves and be more comfortable.

In short, imagine if you, exactly as you are right now, woke up tomorrow and realized your body was 100% different to what your mind KNEW you looked like yesterday. Although you know something like changing genders in your sleep is something very near impossible, it has 100% happened. I bet you would probably be distressed and be fairly willing to undergo a surgery to alter your body to match what you KNOW it should look like. If you didn’t, I’d also bet that you’d hate your “new” body, and you might even sink low enough to hate your life because of it.

At least, that’s my pessimistic view of the whole thing. I have no personal experience with this, but many close friends of mine suffer from these kinds of thoughts due to very similar circumstances. Take my explanation with a grain of salt.

Thanks for the explanations, they were very informative!

I desperately need more of this..

I predict he's going to sit on his lap with the dick poking between the legs just to see how it would look like.

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?
With all respect to those who have done such thing(i think people sholud have right to change their body{tatoos, pircing...}and ability to off themsalve without anybody permition{if you know that you'll die from cancer and that there is no hope for you, and you know you would die in pain... They it seams resonable to... You know...
:( ...}.
Like... You are literly f up your body, for instance tatoos are soooooooo strange to me, i get it they look nice and all BUT they are for the reast of your life(lesors f up your skin pigmentation soooo they leave a mark).
And changing gender seams like another level to that.
You are just throwing away working boddy parts for non functional(fully) body parts of oposing sex, to look like oposing seex you need to change bone structure of your: hips, hin, sholders and everything that i don't know of as i'm not a biology expert.
Like... Can't you talk to yoursalve and aknowlage that regardles of how you look you are all fine and dandy? Do you rl think that such change will be for best? How can you tell? You know, you allways can talk to yoursalve in your head and have a ted talk with yoursalve if one of the many reasons for your gender change(or just any body change rl) is how you look at yoursalve, you should examine what experiences mage your perspective regarding such judgment and decide whether it is rl right.
(Ps. I'm against people having kids, ps. ps. i do not promote that you should do anything nor not do anything with your body, I'm just asking. )

You are an ignorant fool. I cannot put it in any simpler terms.

ihateyou said:
I've dated a MTF and it looks bad. Was quite the shocking revelation to be honest. Whole time I dated them I thought "I can handle anything, im not shallow" then I saw the mangled flesh and realized that I am shallow I guess. :/ it was not something I could get over looking at. I dont know how to describe it. Like trying to be sexually attracted to someone with an open wound is the best way i could put it.

I mean, I look at my own scrotum and wonder if anyone actually likes looking at these wrinkly flappy sacks?... And there's people who have parts of themselves that look like "mangled flesh" (sorry but that's kinda rude) and they still deserve love and dignity. Of course I can also see the shallow side that has an immediate reaction, I looked at the pics that have been linked and wondered if any of 'em will look any better as they grow older or not?...

(I don't know for sure that I'd be less shallow by the way, I've had my shallow moments that I'm not proud of although not like yours. I don't have much of an interest in real life dicks, I've found)

But I'm also thinking about how these newly crafted floppy bits are probably not primarily for you or me to look at and judge their aestethics. They're probably much more important just for being there in the guys' pants and maybe they can even pee from it! That's wild. There don't seem to be many great options there. What else would you do? Remove your uterus and vagina and just pee from your crotch somewhere and have no genitals at all? c':

Some people might also choose to not have the surgery down there. I've met a guy who I wouldn't even have know was born anything but a guy if he wasn't openly talking about it. And from what I remember he chose not to do it. Of course I can't know how he really feels about it deep down.
If there was a perfect magic dick creation spell to cast on 'em, would any dude not take it? I dunno, I'm fortunate to have a penis on me from the start, I'm just part of the respectfully curious crowd. <3

i honestly didnt expect to be learning so much about trans people from a porn comic but it really is interesting reading through this. its like seeing a whole other world of things i didnt even know where possible, let alone problems that real people had to actually deal with. i started reading this cause i like exhibitionism and i came out knowing things that will almost certainly help me some day in the real world, its kind of crazy how this site can do that to you sometimes.

egg_head said:
i honestly didnt expect to be learning so much about trans people from a porn comic but it really is interesting reading through this. its like seeing a whole other world of things i didnt even know where possible, let alone problems that real people had to actually deal with. i started reading this cause i like exhibitionism and i came out knowing things that will almost certainly help me some day in the real world, its kind of crazy how this site can do that to you sometimes.

A whole neeeeeew woooooooorld

octophile said:
Another thing out of genuine curiosity and respect is that I've always wondered how the genitals of somebody when went from male to female and visa versa looks. Like, how does it differ from what we're used to seeing? Would you be able to tell the difference? If so, how?

I also wonder how the female to male surgery is done. I know that you can actually get a prosthetic penis (first F2M surgery ever was done like this) but I also heard that you can actually kinda turn the clitoris to a sort of penis somehow? I'm not sure how much fact there is to what I've read or how well I understood it to begin with.

If anybody has any knowledge or images I would be delighted if you shared them. These things are so fascinating and it'd be nice to be more aware and educated on the matter.

Hy. I, at it seem (been late with what i might add)
So i just, leave this here:
https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/genitals/

*Okay, the material is not reflected on either surgery or transitioning. But its explains the procedure of development on the later forms of Human anatomy!

hinikon said:
Rl q why would you change your body structure for non-health related reasonons?
With all respect to those who have done such thing(i think people sholud have right to change their body{tatoos, pircing...}and ability to off themsalve without anybody permition{if you know that you'll die from cancer and that there is no hope for you, and you know you would die in pain... They it seams resonable to... You know...
:( ...}.
Like... You are literly f up your body, for instance tatoos are soooooooo strange to me, i get it they look nice and all BUT they are for the reast of your life(lesors f up your skin pigmentation soooo they leave a mark).
And changing gender seams like another level to that.
You are just throwing away working boddy parts for non functional(fully) body parts of oposing sex, to look like oposing seex you need to change bone structure of your: hips, hin, sholders and everything that i don't know of as i'm not a biology expert.
Like... Can't you talk to yoursalve and aknowlage that regardles of how you look you are all fine and dandy? Do you rl think that such change will be for best? How can you tell? You know, you allways can talk to yoursalve in your head and have a ted talk with yoursalve if one of the many reasons for your gender change(or just any body change rl) is how you look at yoursalve, you should examine what experiences mage your perspective regarding such judgment and decide whether it is rl right.
(Ps. I'm against people having kids, ps. ps. i do not promote that you should do anything nor not do anything with your body, I'm just asking. )

thing is, it is health related. transitioning, whether only social or social and physical, is THE treatment for gender dysphoria, along with gender counselling and the like. And, just like how some people's journey with depression has antidepressants as well as therapy, some transpeople's journey with their dysphoria, if they have it, will involve a medical transition, which includes hormones and surgery.

damnit!

what're damian and lindsay doing :0

sp0c3 said:
Ok sorry if this comes of as offensive I’m genuinely curious but why wouldn’t he get the surgery for a penis at the same time as the chest reconstruction is it that expensive also would the same apply to rose

Some people aren't fully ready to just turn their genitals inside out or feel it's not really worth it. And I don't think rose wants to lose her dick lol

hinikon said:
childish, immature nonsense

You need to be 18 or older to use this site ;)

Hinikon's said:
Complete Nonsense

Maybe you should think things through before you write. -23 and counting. Come back in 20 years when you are an adult and have finished English class. Because reasonons, pircing, permition, resonable, boddy, oposing, seex. hin, yoursalve, aknowlage, regardles, allways, ted talk aren't even words. See those red lines underneath the word, try searching what it means.

• I'm against people having kids

With that attitude, you won't be having any yourself. And you won't have anyone to pass your knowledge and possessions to when you die.

thefurryboiowo said:
Will one in you do?

Will English do you one better? Because the -8 couldn't understand what you were trying to get across and neither could i.

Getting back to the comic, i'm thinking Keith may want to size test with Joss so Joss can feel a bit of what having a dick would be like.

polymorphousegg said:
You need to be 18 or older to use this site ;)

Yeah, cause no kid out there has ever lied about his age on the internet to look at porn sites...

Really nice to see characters with bodies like mine in comics ~💕

As a transmasc person, all transphobes on this site need to get educated on the struggles we face not only from transphobes, but just ourselves in our own bodies.

i was wondering if those two little marks were his top surgery scars!

zer0rebel4 said:
As a transmasc person, all transphobes on this site need to get educated on the struggles we face not only from transphobes, but just ourselves in our own bodies.

You think an education will magically erase the discomfort those "transphobes" feel from the topic? Not to mention those same Cis people have struggles of their own to deal with.

zer0rebel4 said:
As a transmasc person, all transphobes on this site need to get educated on the struggles we face not only from transphobes, but just ourselves in our own bodies.

I mean, isn’t that what people are doing right now in the comments? This discussion, for the most part, is trying to explain the problems as well as allow those with questions to ask them. Education takes time and patience; you can’t just take an “informed” pill. These sorts of taboo and awkward conversations rarely come up if you aren’t in the immediate circle of the kinds of people who have these problems, so there’s not much opportunity offline.

Taking testosterone can grow the clit into a really small penis (it is an underdeveloped penis, after all). There are two surgeries for FTM trans people called metoidioplasty and phalloplasty, and you can google those for more info, but basically metoidioplasty work with the little penis that grows from testosterone and makes a really small penis (that looks more like a penis than the enlarged clit) which is capable of becoming erect and if the urethra is moved as part of the surgery, you can pee like a cisgender man too. Phalloplasty make an average sided penis, but it can’t be erect by itself and has to have some sort of mechanism to “inflate” it. Both surgeries usually include making a scrotum and implanting prosthetic testicles.
As for how it looks, you can google phalloplasty result images for that.
Source: I’m a trans guy and I’ve looked into this a lot for obvious reasons.

octophile said:
Another thing out of genuine curiosity and respect is that I've always wondered how the genitals of somebody when went from male to female and visa versa looks. Like, how does it differ from what we're used to seeing? Would you be able to tell the difference? If so, how?

I also wonder how the female to male surgery is done. I know that you can actually get a prosthetic penis (first F2M surgery ever was done like this) but I also heard that you can actually kinda turn the clitoris to a sort of penis somehow? I'm not sure how much fact there is to what I've read or how well I understood it to begin with.

If anybody has any knowledge or images I would be delighted if you shared them. These things are so fascinating and it'd be nice to be more aware and educated on the matter.

egg_head said:
i honestly didnt expect to be learning so much about trans people from a porn comic but it really is interesting reading through this. its like seeing a whole other world of things i didnt even know where possible, let alone problems that real people had to actually deal with. i started reading this cause i like exhibitionism and i came out knowing things that will almost certainly help me some day in the real world, its kind of crazy how this site can do that to you sometimes.

just came looking back at my comments from over a year ago. turns out im non-binary/trans! thanks past me for foreshadowing that so it could come back later as plot relevant information!

Neyt_exe said:

henhen129 said:Aw Joss. I think any size or shape would do too :)

hehe. I don't think Joss understands the problems with haveing one

Late reply I know, but it's worth knowing that trans people HATE being told "it's not as good as you think though"Like even if it's true in some respects, we just feel put down when we're told that the body and life we covet isn't actually so good.

Noveltwin said:
A female to male wishing they had a penis feels like a grass is greener kind of scenario to me. They haven't experienced the downsides. All that extra flesh in the way. The pinching. The untimely erections. Going to school in basketball shorts was playing Russian roulette...

Bro... Fucking what? That's like going up to an amputee then saying "you shouldn't want your leg back because you'll need to cut your toenails and wash your feet and you'll stub your toes!"

Like sure yeah there's downsides, but it's dumb to think trans people haven't thoroughly explored these options (especially since doctors will hammer them thoroughly.) Like I know I'd need to piss more often and dilate and I'd be infertile and whatnot if I had a vagina but that's far less of an issue than being sat there up at 4am some nights just filled with rage or sadness or a mix of both because I hate my body in almost every way and most people just get a body they like at birth, and society isn't out to basically kill them.