If only they used there experience in making games for good...sigh

Relica said:
If only they used there experience in making games for good...sigh

They even put a "i herd u like mudkips " meme in the game, along with the "slowpoke meme" XD I swear they are trolling

Conker said:
They even put a "i herd u like mudkips " meme in the game, along with the "slowpoke meme" XD I swear they are trolling

I know.... And PETA seemed to have not even really researched the franchise either.... I think they are just getting angry over nothing.

i saw the "I support Team Plasma" sign the had and was like "Ok these asshats havent played far enough into the game to see the real intent"

someone should edit this and remove the blood and other things

The best part is that PETA would just kill the pokemon

arandomguy452 said:
I know.... And PETA seemed to have not even really researched the franchise either.... I think they are just getting angry over nothing.

Actually, in this case they ARE more or less correct, in a sense. Capturing animals, putting them into essentially slavery, using them to beat up each other and etc. Sure there're a few instances where pokemon are used in productive work, but seriously, pokemon battling is THE major sport in all of the games.

Also, that's more or less the stance of Team Plasma.

Lyokira said:
Actually, in this case they ARE more or less correct, in a sense. Capturing animals, putting them into essentially slavery, using them to beat up each other and etc. Sure there're a few instances where pokemon are used in productive work, but seriously, pokemon battling is THE major sport in all of the games.

Also, that's more or less the stance of Team Plasma.

Or at least, N. (forgot to add that in)

Funniest thing is that Team Plasma is basically doing the same thing in the plot of B+W.

And yes, battling is the main 'sport', though it's not to the death and pokemon centers are around every corner to ensure pokemon are properly well healed.

But also, lets face it, it wouldn't quite be as fun playing a game where you're busy trying to make a bridge by instructing Gurdurr to put metal beams in the right place. (Though, I must admit, it WOULD be fun being the demolition crew.)

Daneasaur said:
Funniest thing is that Team Plasma is basically doing the same thing in the plot of B+W.

And yes, battling is the main 'sport', though it's not to the death and pokemon centers are around every corner to ensure pokemon are properly well healed.

But also, lets face it, it wouldn't quite be as fun playing a game where you're busy trying to make a bridge by instructing Gurdurr to put metal beams in the right place. (Though, I must admit, it WOULD be fun being the demolition crew.)

Wreck-it-Wailord?

pika_pump said:
someone should edit this and remove the blood and other things

that's actually... a good idea.

pika_pump said:
someone should edit this and remove the blood and other things

that would remove the point

Conker said:
that would remove the point

unless you wanted a nice background without a shaven oshawott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RCsORKKNGU

pika_pump said:
unless you wanted a nice background without a shaven oshawott

This background looks nice enough, look pikachu even has a cute collar <3

And this is going to advance animal rights by...
...
...
:V

Nintendo is angry

I can't help but laugh at the sheer stupidity of this.

Wait, you mean this background is a genuine creation of Peta and not just some fans clever joke made to poke fun at them over the big blow up over the Tanooki suit in SMB3?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!1111 >.<
http://features.peta.org/pokemon-black-and-white-parody/

Yep.....they are sure seriously trolling lol this is real i added it to the source

Silly_Lil_Foxcub said:
Wait, you mean this background is a genuine creation of Peta and not just some fans clever joke made to poke fun at them over the big blow up over the Tanooki suit in SMB3?

Oh, Great PETA is doing it again...

Daneasaur said:
And yes, battling is the main 'sport', though it's not to the death and pokemon centers are around every corner to ensure pokemon are properly well healed.

Some might argue that death is preferable to torture.

it is hopeless just throw a grenade instead of a pokeball

Lyokira said:
Actually, in this case they ARE more or less correct, in a sense. Capturing animals, putting them into essentially slavery, using them to beat up each other and etc. Sure there're a few instances where pokemon are used in productive work, but seriously, pokemon battling is THE major sport in all of the games.

Also, that's more or less the stance of Team Plasma.

(late I know) But, the stance of Team Plasma is to follow the leader, the leader is N being manipulated by Ghetsis, of whom is trying to get it so that only HE has pokemon, basically gaining control of the region making a "Big Brother" style rulership, so your argument is moot. YES that is the basic stance, if you read the reviews on the internet (w/o spoilers), but if you played the game, or otherwise, you'd know that is not correct, and that basically what PETA is saying through that parody, to Pokemon fans that they support taking all freedoms away from us (insert breath here).

Yes, the main sport is battling, BUT Pokemon LOVE to battle, it's not like dog fighting where you are forcing them to kill or be killed, they merely just knock heads until they pass out, but what kid is influenced by that? Any kid raised around animals and the games (or shows) would not be, in fact there is no proof that kids who play this video game (or any) grow up to abuse animals.

And that slavery comment, that is questionable, it is unknown as to what the pokeballs do, and most of all, the main uses of the pokemon are things they expertize in, and we make animals slave for us anyway, we ride horces, we make whales entertain us, we command dogs to do things.

And yes, I have a lot of time on my hands

Lyokira said:
Actually, in this case they ARE more or less correct, in a sense. Capturing animals, putting them into essentially slavery, using them to beat up each other and etc.

I would have to mainly disagree with most of this.
By saying you're putting pokémon into "essential slavery" is quite a bit false. The whole idea of having your own pokémon is the same as owning a pet, shown through some descriptions of pokémon being "very loyal to their trainer", like in Growlithe's description. (Breath)
On top of them fighting with near-superhuman abilities and defense, there's also a universal healthcare system for pokémon alone.

Secondly, there's the whole "happiness level" introduced in gen II. This way you can actually see how happy your pokémon is, and (most of the time) your pokémon is very happy to be with you.
You also must get certain gym badges in order for higher level pokémon to listen to you, showing how they have the option whether or not to listen to you. Once you get a badge, they respect you as a trainer and will then listen.

As for battling, well that's in their nature, and it's better to have hundreds of clinics on standby to heal them in a heartbeat than to just have them going at it in the wild where they might actually severely hurt each other. Trainers aren't trying to kill pokémon or anything.
Exploitation of any pokémon in any way, shape, or form is universally frowned upon, as shown by your enemy doing just that in almost every game.

tl;dr Pokémon are very much like pets and almost everyone's very responsible with them.

(breath) /end rant.

Fuck... You... You just made a kids cartoon seem terrible.

I used to enjoy pokemon, truly until about the fourth season. I loved the show that whole time, in fact I still own original VHS tapes. So go pokemon, you're awesome, fuck PETA.

Lyokira said:
Or at least, N. (forgot to add that in)

peta is cruel: they raided a lab and released all the animals when the animals went back to the lab peta killed the animals, peta also "adopted" dogs killed them and en mass dumped the bodies in dumpsters

Now, I'm not one who can say exactly WHAT since I'm not genre savvy to animal cruelty, but does PETA really not have better shit to focus on? I understand the basis, I really do: Pokemon is a series of animated cartoons, books, video games, and collectable/playable cards that depict a universe where it's socially acceptable in all cultures across the planet to forcefully capture wild, dangerous animals that can harness lethal elements in (and out of) nature, then force them to fight. Most of this is done by children using magical devices to contain the animals in hammerspace, and the only people who consider this cruel or unethical regardless of death are made to look like crazy people, which is dangerously hypocritical and can spawn uncalled-for disregard for legitimate activist groups.

I get it. Pokemon's a pretty rotten series that'd be diabolical in this world, yet somehow it's prospered and has managed to spread across the globe slipping crap under the radar for decades, and I think it'd be perfectly normal for animal rights' activists to protest it. HOWEVER, where the whole argument falls apart is that PETA not only creates images and games that make the issue seem worse than it is- this image and their "Killin' Mama" game are prime examples- but they pay money for it. They pay good money to create these overbearing antonyms to what they find disagreeable, creating invalid "evidence" that makes them look crazy when they could be spending it on things like shelters for animals where they're not put down after two weeks, and for people to operate these shelters who aren't in it just for the paycheck.

PETA sees itself as an organization of reasonable people employing themselves as righteous activists, going from place to place for the analysis of ethical animal treatment through surveys, volunteer/charity work, door-to-door residential visitations, and advertising campaigns to raise awareness of animal cruelty and the importance of fixing your pet to avoid overpopulation. In reality, they're a bunch of animal diehards who have gone so far over the edge, they consider any human contact with animals is cruel.

I love how hypocritical these people are. They literally break and enter into people's homes to kidnap perfectly happy animals from their comfortable domestic lives, round them up at their local 'shelters' and held in unfavorable captivity, only to be euthanized despite PETA's alleged disagreement with euthenasia- in face, more than 90% of their "legitimate" inventory of "rescued" animals is subject to being put down with hardly any effort to find them good homes.

Did anybody see that? As I went on, my tone shifted from "These people aren't the best group in the world" to "They're fucking crazy!" And they are. PETA is a group that favors death of animals than putting them in good homes because their $30,000,000+ a year budget isn't enough to convince them anybody's good enough to have a pet. I think if we cut back on anti-marijuana spending, a good use of it would be to train and place FBI informants inside PETA's ranks to investigate their actions firsthand. Police, at the very least.

Lennox said:
Now, I'm not one who can say exactly WHAT since I'm not genre savvy to animal cruelty, but does PETA really not have better shit to focus on? I understand the basis, I really do: Pokemon is a series of animated cartoons, books, video games, and collectable/playable cards that depict a universe where it's socially acceptable in all cultures across the planet to forcefully capture wild, dangerous animals that can harness lethal elements in (and out of) nature, then force them to fight. Most of this is done by children using magical devices to contain the animals in hammerspace, and the only people who consider this cruel or unethical regardless of death are made to look like crazy people, which is dangerously hypocritical and can spawn uncalled-for disregard for legitimate activist groups.

I get it. Pokemon's a pretty rotten series that'd be diabolical in this world, yet somehow it's prospered and has managed to spread across the globe slipping crap under the radar for decades, and I think it'd be perfectly normal for animal rights' activists to protest it. HOWEVER, where the whole argument falls apart is that PETA not only creates images and games that make the issue seem worse than it is- this image and their "Killin' Mama" game are prime examples- but they pay money for it. They pay good money to create these overbearing antonyms to what they find disagreeable, creating invalid "evidence" that makes them look crazy when they could be spending it on things like shelters for animals where they're not put down after two weeks, and for people to operate these shelters who aren't in it just for the paycheck.

PETA sees itself as an organization of reasonable people employing themselves as righteous activists, going from place to place for the analysis of ethical animal treatment through surveys, volunteer/charity work, door-to-door residential visitations, and advertising campaigns to raise awareness of animal cruelty and the importance of fixing your pet to avoid overpopulation. In reality, they're a bunch of animal diehards who have gone so far over the edge, they consider any human contact with animals is cruel.

I love how hypocritical these people are. They literally break and enter into people's homes to kidnap perfectly happy animals from their comfortable domestic lives, round them up at their local 'shelters' and held in unfavorable captivity, only to be euthanized despite PETA's alleged disagreement with euthenasia- in face, more than 90% of their "legitimate" inventory of "rescued" animals is subject to being put down with hardly any effort to find them good homes.

Did anybody see that? As I went on, my tone shifted from "These people aren't the best group in the world" to "They're fucking crazy!" And they are. PETA is a group that favors death of animals than putting them in good homes because their $30,000,000+ a year budget isn't enough to convince them anybody's good enough to have a pet. I think if we cut back on anti-marijuana spending, a good use of it would be to train and place FBI informants inside PETA's ranks to investigate their actions firsthand. Police, at the very least.

so much speech, impossible to follow

Your_typical_idiot said:
so much speech, impossible to follow

Basically he thinks that we should legalize weed but otherwise have a police state with FBI-agents everywhere. I guess he thinks we'd all be too high to care.

I want to understand why PETA is attacking fantasy games that do not condone violence to real animals rather than deal with those hunting simulators. it just makes more sense) though they should be dealing with real life problems, not pestering a game with little to no research into the show...

Cosmicflyer said:
I want to understand why PETA is attacking fantasy games that do not condone violence to real animals rather than deal with those hunting simulators.

Likely because Pokemon is one of the best selling game series (and it is marketed for kids), whereas hunting sims tend to be less popular.

I could kind of see them condemning the Monster Hunter series, but everything else is so marginal that it's not worth the time.

Lyokira said:
Actually, in this case they ARE more or less correct, in a sense. Capturing animals, putting them into essentially slavery, using them to beat up each other and etc. Sure there're a few instances where pokemon are used in productive work, but seriously, pokemon battling is THE major sport in all of the games.

Also, that's more or less the stance of Team Plasma.

Yeah but in the anime and in the game they take care of the pokèmons and they have a friendship bound. But this doesn't make it any less disturbing.