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Ask Puz n Pals #299
Clearly more people need to read Bucking the System (and it's upcoming sequel), or they would've known Pat has fun with Lily the doe (guest starring here) after Night hooked them up!
Clearly more people need to read Bucking the System (and it's upcoming sequel), or they would've known Pat has fun with Lily the doe (guest starring here) after Night hooked them up!
W0LFB3AT5
MemberI wonder how you form a decent relationship from cuckolding...
Crowwolf
MemberThis is more swinging I think
user 343190
Memberi think its more a swinger thing
Nethen22
MemberBy having mutual respect, trust, and actual love between you and your partner.
JWT07
BlockedRelationship goals right there.
Also glad to see he got with lily, as it was hinted at her crushing on him hard from the previous book.
JWT07
BlockedTrusting your partner and a mutual understanding that it's all in good fun. It's not for everyone but it's an enjoyable experience.
W0LFB3AT5
MemberNoted. Lol!
Neoxthegamer
MemberI can hear all the nightshade haters reeing right now
MoonMoonthe2nd
MemberEh, probably more like scratching heads and chuckling a little. Kadath said it himself that Bucking The System was non-canon. Logically, wouldn't that possibly make this situation non-canon as well?
Where's Canon Fox? He needs to make a comeback.
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Kaddyshacks
MemberTechnically it's non-canon because Bucking the System is not my creation (though I collaborated on it and designed the characters) - however, it's still 'in character' for how Night and Pat's relationship works. So the sentiment in this Ask page is the same: Night is okay with Pat banging other women, though she wants to be aware/involved, just like how Pat is when she bangs other men.
It's all about communication. People will twist themselves into knots because they don't like Night's femdom side, or cuckolding in general, but it's all consensual with these two, and she's not as possessive or controlling as people like to think.
JWT07
BlockedCope
Kaddyshacks
MemberGrow up.
JWT07
BlockedYou sure love throwing victim out don't you?
Go back and look at all of the cuck pieces with him, does he look like he's getting victimized?
Or are you just projecting?
Nethen22
MemberThe fact you took words like trust, respect, and love and somehow morphed it into abuse says so much more about you than anything else. You are projecting so much.
JWT07
BlockedEdit: my bad nethen22, I meant to respond to owlbucket
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JWT07
BlockedAgain, cope.
Just because you get offended over a kink thousands if not millions of people enjoy doesn't make it abuse.
Nethen22
MemberJust add "cuckold" to your blacklist and move on. I don't know what to tell you. Kad isn't just gonna change his characters because people like you bitch about it.
Everything you just said is strictly a matter of opinion. You don't have to look at cuckold situations in art. You don't have to enjoy anything about their relationship, but when you ignore very obvious signs that a fictional relationship isn't as toxic as you think, then the relationship itself is not the problem. You are.
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ErnestoRoo
MemberI ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you though. Or sorry that happened, idc.
Hentailoverx56
MemberBe fair about it. That is kind how you keep your relationship healthy with the cuck holding. It is not for everyone so don't force on those who don't like it as that tends to lead to a disaster.
JWT07
BlockedDamage control? How is him explaining their relationship, in something non canon of all things damage control?
Haha, are you slow?
Lemme stop you right there, champ.
While I tend to love the constant screeching of folks too up their own arses to not know how to blacklist, you're a real one for the responses and not just troll answers like I'm doing, lol
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SketchyBug
MemberI just find it funny how one person said Kad is “scrambling” and “damage controlling” when he’s just pointing out the fact that Patrick’s consent and enthusiasm for the kink is clearly stated in the comics in question to people that either didn’t read them or didn’t pay attention when they read them.
There was a whole-ass comic that was narrated by Pat where we got a firsthand look at his thoughts as the cucking was happening, and he says multiple times how turned on he is by it, and people were still mad. Some folks just wanna project.
MyDearLady
MemberFunny how people associate a girl (or a boy) having sex with someone else as abuse. It's almost as if they treat their significant other as a possession of somekind to be used exclusively by them, and get upset when that 'possession' of theirs has fun with someone else. Couples that don't treat each other as things to be owned don't have such a problem. If you do, well ... might as well start working on your own sexist biases and prejudices.
SketchyBug
MemberThere it is!
JWT07
BlockedIt's just straight up projection at this point I think, how someone could like 'such an appalling kinky', lol, just blows them away.
Neoxthegamer
MemberAmen, as someone who irl is in a open relationship, its all about being upfront, honest, trustworthy and communicative with your partners. I fucking adore pat and night as they are good examples of how to do a open relationship RIGHT
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Neoxthegamer
MemberFunny how I called it there would be reeing in the comments
JWT07
BlockedI wish I could upvote this into oblivion.
Sl0M
MemberAlright let's address this one constructively. Some people hate Kadath' art especially those that depicts Night and Pat's relationship and I can see and understand that. When a couple decides to indulge themselves into hardcore or risky fetishes (femdom, cuckold, breathplay, etc.) there should always be regulations and safety set in place. In the case of cukolding, informed consent and genuine love is essential because if done right, the couple's sexual life becomes fun; if done wrong, and trust me, fetishes such as this are very easy to do it wrong, you will either lose of have a falling out on your relationship and most importantly: the trust and self-esteem of your partner, and trust is something that is not given away for granted.
Now as for these two sides, did Kadath do it right? My answer is definitely NO. And is the outrage of these haters justified? It's a mix of yes and no. First of, in Kadath's case when he portrays these fetishes, its like he's rushing it and because of that he leaves some or most of the important stuff behind, in this case is the informed consent; I understand that both of the agreed on this fetish but that doesn't mean that you agreed on it ONCE, you can skip the safety controls and do whatever the fuck you want without your partner's knowledge, unfortunately, this is mostly seen in his artworks where things just happen all of a sudden. And the informed consent, I really have to emphasize the INFORMED CONSENT in this case because this serves as the anchor, assurance and insurance policy of your relationship when performing this kink; but as seen in his Wake Up Call comic, they left the Key to their house to Marcus (which is a no-no! because this can compromise the safety of your home and themselves. Never leave your house keys to ANYONE! Unless they are your loved ones, such as your parents.) and proceeds to bang with Pat being asleep and without knowledge that she is doing it with someone else, which is a no-no regardless if your relationship is mono or poly. In short, if Kadath wants to portray a fetish, he should at always do research on the kink first and if possible (there are thousands of sources online starting from your generic wiki, journals, articles, and research studies), consult a sex therapist to know how the fetish works; or at least listen to some CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM on your fanbase. Especially if you are a porn artist, your responsibility is tenfold, because portraying something wrong can create myriads of backlashes on you and your career(and we are witnessing just that).
Now as for the haters, your actions on hating Kadath for his misportrayal on a kink by saying rude words to him is outright wrong, rather its very childish of you to do those, instead what you are doing is making him less receptive to criticism; if you want to address something that is wrong in his work, do it in a NICE and CONSTRUCTIVE WAY! Don't just spit our rude words at him. Now, I can understand your reason for hating some of his works and how he does it ( it's in our nature that our inquisitive minds think of every possible scenarios that can occur when seeing something plays out). And the kink shaming.... boy you guys really need to stop this already! Each individual is unique in every aspect and we humans should respect them for who they are.
In conclusion, both Kadath and these Kad haters need to fucking GROW UP! As for Kadath, more research and knowledge is a must when portraying certain fetishes, more so if its a comic because a comic is like reading a story, but it's fun and more meaningful if the reader immerses him/herself fully in the character's shoes. And for fucks sake listen to your fanbase! (the good kind of course! If you don't have any, ask yourself why?) This is why some famous artists that we know of (Meesh, Fluff-Kevlar, etc.) are so successful because they engage to their community regardless if its in the good place or a bad place. In short be knowledgeable, responsible, and approachable. Now as for the Kad haters, don't be a fucking asshole and impulsively dish out statements that is very subjective, especially if its something that personally attacks the creator. Instead if you dislike something from his work, do it in a nice and constructive way (plus points if it's formal) by pointing out what went wrong and what he can do to correct it, or prevent it in the future. Remember all people, regardless of color, gender, ethnicity, and personal taste deserves RESPECT!
Sorry if this essay took too long, I felt the need to do is because this has been going on for a long time and this needs to stop as soon as possible for the sake of the artist and the people that watches his works. Again, the purpose of this statement is to enlighten both parties involved, not to attack them. PEACE!
Sincerely
A midwife that has 2 sex therapist friends
Nethen22
MemberIt's wishful thinking if you think people are gonna read every single word there. And FYI, I'm pretty sure Kad has talked with experts in these particular fetishes, and some of them actually said what he was doing was pretty tame.
JWT07
BlockedYeah?
And this is coming from someone who's polyamorous, in an open happy relationship for years and who has been in a cuckold relationship with friends in the past; Kadath has gone about this extremely well, it's people too damn insecure with themselves that have a problem with their relationship.
And seriously, if you consider something as tame as breathplay risky you're commenting on the wrong kink, luv.
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Owlbucket
BlockedI have to doudt that you are or were in a relationship of any kind. And even it its true, you are a poor witness to claim it is a happy one.
Nethen22
MemberSo he's a "poor witness" for liking a fetish you don't? What kind of logic is that?
Unless you have been in one yourself or know anything legitimate about the fetish, then you're out of line calling someone that.
JWT07
BlockedAnd here you are again, still unable to cope.
Sad.
JWT07
BlockedDoubt it, that's what this is really about I'm willing to bet. Us degenerates are able to have relationships, yet a nice upstanding guy like him can't.
ginkei
MemberPeople are there spending more time complaining about fictional character as if their lives were directly threatened...
Nethen22
MemberIf you're gonna use a meme, use it correctly. It's x to Doubt, you pleb.
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Valaska
MemberHow is this not damage control? In a previous ask post, Nightshade threatened to rip Pat's throat out if he slept with another woman? Nightshade boned some guy who broke into their house while Pat slept, where's the communication in that? Pat doesn't like anal, yet she pushed through.
Etc etc. Then Kadath has to make one of these to try and run damage control. The guy has no integrity to his characters or continuity. Kadath has made one of the most hilarious damage control situations in writing ever... this is the gift that just keeps giving. Nightshade does something extremely abusive and horrible, someone asks a question about it... he scrambles to do damage control and his fans try to go "Oh no that never happened! This is a LOVING relationship!"
This stuff is hilariously amusing to watch lol. Nightshade is just blatantly abusing and cheating on Pat, threatening to kill him if he banged another girl in a previous ask, and then when people are like "Whoa wtf" Kadath has to run damage control. This is what happens when someone who has no idea how to keep a character consistent or coherent tries to write on a subject they have no experience with and it's beautiful. Kaddyshacks, never change. This shit is amazing to watch like The Room. I love how many times these things have had to be made non-canon and then he tries to patch the canon up in this non-canon source. It's the trainwreck that just keeps giving.
JWT07
BlockedYeah lol this has gotten a bit silly now
Nethen22
MemberIt's even more entertaining to watch people like you ignore or pass something off as "damage control" when it doesn't fit your narrative. Also, the ask you refer to (which was released 5 years ago, by the way) explicitly says if Pat got caught cheating. This is not cheating. This is voyeurism, cuckqueen, whatever you want to call it. Night fully accepts and encourages this, and if you read something like Midsummer Nights (I would say Wake Up Call, but there is no way you're subscribed to his Patreon), so does Patrick.
This is getting ridiculous. There needs to be a point where you accept the fact that your perceived notion about a character is wrong. I don't understand how someone is so locked into an internal hatred for a fictional character, that they blatantly overlook the most obvious signs that Night is not evil or abusive. What do you get out of hating a character so much? Seriously.
Kaddyshacks
MemberYeah, this wasn't damage control. I did this Ask page because several people asked this question, and I figured it was good to show Night is okay with Pat sleeping with others, too. I only chimed in here because I was clarifying Lily's role in this - and that *technically* Bucking the System isn't canon (because it's not my original work), BUT the characters are in-character, so the sentiment is the same.
Plus, that Ask page he's referring to is about Night not wanting Pat to cheat. I didn't have her threatening to slit his throat (she's not a murderer lol), but rather 'the claws are out', as a playful predatory threat.
I also made an Ask page about what if Sebastian fucked Night, and Diamond gives him a death glare and tells him to not even try. Funny how people never bring that up. Also funny this person has such definitive narratives of my work, but they can't even get their facts straight XD
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JWT07
BlockedNo need to explain yourself man, you've done nothing to warrant it. People are gonna get their panties in a bunch regardless of what you do lol
Kaddyshacks
MemberNo kidding lol. I only chime in if I want to clarify stuff, but of course these guys will just twist it into their own narratives regardless, I guess XD
JWT07
BlockedYep xD since you've victimized pat so harshly, how can you sleep at night, for shame, kad'~
Lol
Ivan56
MemberI suppose it’s not a “real” cuckold post unless there’s at least 50 or so comments worth of discourse :/
Y’all... blacklist the damn tag instead of doing this.
Also, cute post. Kadath draws some very good cuckold art IMO.
Valaska
MemberActually I've been curious, is your name inspired by Lovecraft?
Kaddyshacks
MemberYup - from The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath.
Wyld wulf
MemberJustification, you still a hoe night.. and that's what I come here for, to see you get filled to the brim with nut, bust one myself then exit the browser. Done-zo. Everybody getting butthurt because a skut getting dicked down
YOU LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
TredRandom6
MemberI've always felt the people who argue with those who complain about certain fetishes to be practically just as annoying. Like, it seems you people can't follow your own advice and ignore the idiots. They're obviously not going to use their blacklist, and they're obviously not going to be convinced of anything you have to say. So... Why bother responding to them? Unless you're trying to have some sort "drop the mic" moment where you put people in their place. Which is also pretty stupid.
Just seems pretty hypocritical to me. Back to lurking I go.
Nethen22
MemberTL;DR We're all toxic and should keep our mouths shut, apparently.
megalion
MemberJFC I just wanted to see if anyone else was glad to finally see Pat get some side action...
Spoonman
MemberOkay...?
Then what was the latest comic with these two supposed to be, with their bull showing up in the middle of the night, using a key that Night gave him that Pat didn't seem to even know about, fucking her while he was asleep and completely unaware? I mean, the fact that she even gave Markus a key to their house/flat is a huge red flag on its own, even without factoring in that she didn't tell Pat what was going on until after the fact.
It got followed up with her admitting that she wondered if Patrick would have been mad about it, as if to suggest that she might have crossed a line. Even in a cuckolding relationship, that is categorically not a good thing. It suggests that their communication is lacking enough that she isn't completely sure.
I'm not convinced. This feels really off.
Nethen22
Member👌
Rocket85rooster
Blockedhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
ITAUTIT
MemberMe, reading all the comments of strangers arguing online:
"I observe all that transpires here, but I do not, cannot, and will not interfere."
sigma13
MemberAs characters, they are happy. Therefore it is none of our business. As fictional characters, no one is actually getting hurt. Therefore it is again none of our business. If you don't like it, don't look at it. That's what blacklists are for.
W0LFB3AT5
MemberHey, genius. It was an “I wonder…” question. Not a rant.
Think before you comment.
Also that comment was a year ago. Let it go. 🙄
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