bob_the_luggage said:
Stolas is gay though


Meh

Canon sexuality has no power here.

bob_the_luggage said:
Stolas is gay though


Meh

He literally has a wife and child.

gittons said:
He literally has a wife and child.

probably bi, given his "interesting" relationship with Blitzo

gittons said:
He literally has a wife and child.

I'm betting arranged marriage for political reasons, based on some of the things he tries to say at the end of ep 2.

That said, he and Stella seem to have had a "better" relationship when Via was younger. But yeah, dude ain't straight. Minimum bi, but we haven't seen much of his preferences beyond "Blitzo."

On topic, this pic is cute, (the whole series of pics is cute) and while it may not be a thing he does in canon, he really does care for her immensely.

toomanybirds said:
We're talking about a pic where a dad is using a vibrator on his toddler daughter and it sparks a discussion on how unrealistic it is because he's gay. This site is fucked up.

Use your blacklist if it offends you, trust me it will save you so much frustration and needless arguments. You're not going to win people over on a furry porn site.

toomanybirds said:
Not trying to win anyone over, you can't stop people from being pedophiles just by telling them it's wrong. I was just pointing out how creepy it is that pedophilia is basically as normal as being gay or bi on this site.

I'm gonna level with you man, you've got plenty of cub pics in your favorites.

coolascola said:
I'm gonna level with you man, you've got plenty of cub pics in your favorites.

Oh shit, dude. You fucking killed him.

bob_the_luggage said:
Is there a way to search somebody's favorites? Please tell me how, because I looked through a large chunk of their favorites (about 1000) and I did not see a single post with "cub" tagged.
Either there's a convenient way to look through a user's favorite tags, or you're full of shit, and are straight up lying to gain the upper hand in an arguement, and if that is the case, please permanently migrate to Twitter, they love people like you there.

Sure thing, go into their profile, click on the number next to the word favorites, and then type cub in the search bar. But i'll do you one better just in case you still have trouble. https://e621.net/posts?tags=fav%3ATooManyBirds+cub

toomanybirds said:
You're correct actually, many of them are tagged as cub because the canon character is a "cub" despite being clearly aged up to be an adult in the pic, but some of them are genuinely cubs and I didn't know, likely because I didn't know the character and thought it was a shortstack, or just a "cute" character. This isn't really the own you think it is. I have 10k favorites and a tiny amount of them had the cub tag on them. This doesn't really refute or disprove my point, you just wanted a quick an easy "gotcha".

Regardless, thanks for bringing that to my attention so I can purge them. Usually don't use the blacklist but it's probably best to blacklist the cub tag so I don't accidentally favorite any more.

Whatever helps man, i'm not trying to snag a "gotcha" or own you, just mind the soapbox a bit and try to enjoy yourself. We all know what we're here for, we all know what we like. I wish you good luck and hope that we can live and let live. Pardon this weirdness with the reply btw, I seem to have messed something up.

I was wrong, h

coolascola said:
Sure thing, go into their profile, click on the number next to the word favorites, and then type cub in the search bar. But i'll do you one better just in case you still have trouble. https://e621.net/posts?tags=fav%3ATooManyBirds+cub

Also, side note, mobile overlay might be different than PC overlay cause when I click on the number next to favorites I only see a list, no search bar.

Another amazing drawing by Soul. Good stuff!

Such an adorable scene with everyone's favorite owlette

Yes

saltygoat675 said:
The Octavia and stolas ones are perfect

>this.

toomanybirds said:
Not trying to win anyone over, you can't stop people from being pedophiles just by telling them it's wrong. I was just pointing out how creepy it is that pedophilia is basically as normal as being gay or bi on this site.

Excuse me, you privileged human being. If you have a problem with there being a site where pedophiles can go on to masturbate in peace without having any real-life children involved, then maybe the real problem isn't with the site.
Real-life child porn is not acceptable in any circumstances, but this is literally just a drawing. A very well-made drawing, might I add. No one is getting hurt here. Go home.

Edit: Also, "stop people from being pedophiles"? You know that pedophilia is a mental illness, right? One that people get born with, and can't do anything about? And that on it's own is somehow wrong?
I can only guess that you're referring to child molesters, so let me remind you: A pedophile and a child molester are two different things. The main reason why you only hear of pedophiles that did rape people is because the ones that didn't don't tell people that they're pedophiles. Simple as that.
As long as you fail to see the difference, you're a part of the problem.

coolascola said:
Sure thing, go into their profile, click on the number next to the word favorites, and then type cub in the search bar. But i'll do you one better just in case you still have trouble. https://e621.net/posts?tags=fav%3ATooManyBirds+cub

He deleted his cub favorites, but for anyone else reading this thread in the future, a lot of the ones he favorited were as explicit or more about the cub kink than the image we're commenting on right now. There wasn't any way to mistake them as not cub art.

Added lol_comments for obvious reasons lol

Just comparing this comment section with the one of Smol Stella that is just after.
I think I could post the roughest Smol Stella being raped and still won't get as many comments as I get with Smol Octavia.

The "grown-up toy" goes brrrr

ginkei said:
The "grown-up toy" goes brrrr

Then get it a blanket. 🤣

toomanybirds said:
Never been called privileged for saying pedos bad, that's new. You absolutely are right, there are pedophiles who haven't harmed children, and they can't just stop being attracted even though they know it's wrong. That's why you get help and therapy and learn how to suppress it. When you give in to your urges, even on fictional art, you become 1 step closer to wanting the fantasy to become reality. By conversing with other pedos about your attraction, and seeking out art that fills that fantasy, you are directly making things worse on yourself by normalizing the concept. That's why some pedophiles eventually end up harming kids. you actually can do something about being one, learn to cope and suppress it. You'll always have the attraction but you need to learn to control yourself. Looking at stuff like this doesn't help with that, and isn't healthy for the psyche. But the people here clearly don't see a problem in being one so it won't matter what I say regardless. Just thought I'd respond because you're spouting out random nonsense and people are uvoting you because they seek validation, and they certainly aren't getting it out in the real world.

I wouldn't say everyone attracted to cub are pedos, some might just be into it because they like cute characters(such as Octavia here) being put in sexual situations.

toomanybirds said:
Never been called privileged for saying pedos bad, that's new. You absolutely are right, there are pedophiles who haven't harmed children, and they can't just stop being attracted even though they know it's wrong. That's why you get help and therapy and learn how to suppress it. When you give in to your urges, even on fictional art, you become 1 step closer to wanting the fantasy to become reality. By conversing with other pedos about your attraction, and seeking out art that fills that fantasy, you are directly making things worse on yourself by normalizing the concept. That's why some pedophiles eventually end up harming kids. you actually can do something about being one, learn to cope and suppress it. You'll always have the attraction but you need to learn to control yourself. Looking at stuff like this doesn't help with that, and isn't healthy for the psyche. But the people here clearly don't see a problem in being one so it won't matter what I say regardless. Just thought I'd respond because you're spouting out random nonsense and people are uvoting you because they seek validation, and they certainly aren't getting it out in the real world.

Saying that loli and shota art makes people want to rape someone is like saying that playing CS:GO turns people into terrorists, which is obviously false. You're stating, if I understand correctly, that any pedophile who watches rule 34 with the tag "young", no matter who they were previously, will end up molesting a child.
Besides, if me making up sexual fantasies brings me closer to becoming a predator, then how are you different? What, are you saying that your sexual fantasies are somehow "safer" than mine? Kinda hypocritical if you ask me, especially considering the site we're on.

toomanybirds said:
I never said that all pedophiles will go on to harm children if they look at fictional porn. What I'm saying is that by indulging in that porn, and by discussing with other likeminded people about your fetish, you're normalizing the concept in your head, even if subconsciously. Which could end up bringing someone to try it in real life if the fictional art becomes "not enough" and they need more. That's actually how a lot of child molesters/rapists start out, it's a real thing that does happen. You're essentially using the fictional art as a substitute for the real thing. Which is preferable than actually harming children for sure. But it's still an unhealthy coping mechanism that could lead you down the wrong path. The best way to deal with your urges is to seek help and go to therapy, not give into them.

By that logic though doing anything through fictional is normalization.
Such as violent video games desensitizing you to violence which in turn makes you a murderer.
Which is kind of ridiculous. I think your missing the point that to most people, fiction is fiction, and they have no desire to do stuff in reality.
This is the difference between fantasy and reality, and something people like you seem to not be able to understand.
Real kids and real people are kind of gross, they are nothing like fiction could ever present. Take Octavia for a good example...
SHES A FUCKING BIRD DEMON. Kind of hard to find that in reality.

Ok, I'm not going to choose a side. I don't want 18 downvotes for stating an opinion. This post is not my cup of tea but I always love comment drama. I mildly agree with both sides, Like as TooManyBirds said you can get some help to suppress those feeling of pedophilia which I find completely believable. But I don't think all pedo's are gonna molest a child. To me the attraction of to a child makes me shiver, But as long as you dont make me look at it, and It's not physically hurting anyone, I can live with it. Yes pedophilia to me is inappropriate at best and if taken to the worst side can cause harm, but as long as it't not happening to real children, I don't have a problemo.

iwilltakeyourknees said:
Ok, I'm not going to choose a side. I don't want 18 downvotes for stating an opinion. This post is not my cup of tea but I always love comment drama. I mildly agree with both sides, Like as TooManyBirds said you can get some help to suppress those feeling of pedophilia which I find completely believable. But I don't think all pedo's are gonna molest a child. To me the attraction of to a child makes me shiver, But as long as you dont make me look at it, and It's not physically hurting anyone, I can live with it. Yes pedophilia to me is inappropriate at best and if taken to the worst side can cause harm, but as long as it't not happening to real children, I don't have a problemo.

One of the more commonly prescribed therapy methods for people with darker impulses is art therapy. Getting it out in a way that doesn't actually hurt anyone. It acts like a release valve for all kinds of desires. This includes weird furry porn.

There are studies. They show legalizing this kind of material directly decreases the amount of sexual child abuse. Both producing and having access to it.

This is also ignoring that most sexual child abuse isn't done by pedophiles, but by non-pedophiliac adults just looking for a power trip.

This shit's complicated, and it's not niche furry porn on obscure message boards that causes it.

toomanybirds said:
Never been called privileged for saying pedos bad, that's new. You absolutely are right, there are pedophiles who haven't harmed children, and they can't just stop being attracted even though they know it's wrong. That's why you get help and therapy and learn how to suppress it. When you give in to your urges, even on fictional art, you become 1 step closer to wanting the fantasy to become reality. By conversing with other pedos about your attraction, and seeking out art that fills that fantasy, you are directly making things worse on yourself by normalizing the concept. That's why some pedophiles eventually end up harming kids. you actually can do something about being one, learn to cope and suppress it. You'll always have the attraction but you need to learn to control yourself. Looking at stuff like this doesn't help with that, and isn't healthy for the psyche. But the people here clearly don't see a problem in being one so it won't matter what I say regardless. Just thought I'd respond because you're spouting out random nonsense and people are uvoting you because they seek validation, and they certainly aren't getting it out in the real world.

That has about as much logic to it as people who look at vore are more likely to eat someone whole. Masturbation is not causation

Pleas vivie make this canon :(

toomanybirds said:
I never said that all pedophiles will go on to harm children if they look at fictional porn. What I'm saying is that by indulging in that porn, and by discussing with other likeminded people about your fetish, you're normalizing the concept in your head, even if subconsciously. Which could end up bringing someone to try it in real life if the fictional art becomes "not enough" and they need more. That's actually how a lot of child molesters/rapists start out, it's a real thing that does happen. You're essentially using the fictional art as a substitute for the real thing. Which is preferable than actually harming children for sure. But it's still an unhealthy coping mechanism that could lead you down the wrong path. The best way to deal with your urges is to seek help and go to therapy, not give into them.

I can somehow understand your worry's, but I have to disagree with you. Like already said by other people, this is better than having nothing to releave yourself. I never would/will harm a child, but I have to say that if stuff like this wouldn't exist, i would be more tempting to do something stupid.
And people who really do cause harm to a child are either the ones who who get a kick from it or are just really REALLY stupid and selfish and don't even think a second about the things they are doing. Those people are the real problem!

I really like how Twitter's slacktivists are trying to go on crusade for fan artists by either "fixing" their work (which is disrespectful by the way) or cancel them with a mental gymnastic about "normalizing" or just because "you cannot lewd my favorite character, she's pure!" (despite the fact that R34 has always existed) while real life crimes are happening but they wouldn't do anything against it.

Furthermore, a porn pic of a character isn't canon so it's not their canonical variation of it (it may even be a future/aged up version of them).

But then again they are the same who could say something like "aging up doesn't count because they were younger" because of course people never ages and when you actually sleep with an adult you're basically doing it with an aged up version of their younger self (which is a stupid reasoning).

PS: Octavia is not real, deal with it.

gittons said:
He literally has a wife and child.

He's Aristocracy, as well as it being a loveless marriage, so I thought it was an arranged marriage.

The last time i saw a comments section so controversial was on the gadsden flag porn parody

dubstepumbreon said:
The last time i saw a comments section so controversial was on the gadsden flag porn parody

it has been quite entertaining to check back on these images of lil via just to see what salty comment would be posted next

toomanybirds just outed himself as a self-hating pedophile. Yes even I laughed at him to begin with, thinking he was just here to troll and bring Twitter logic here. But nah, this is a cry for help. A guy who's favourited cub art, who admits that he can't see the difference between cub and CP. The dude basically acted as the aggressor here so we would all yell at him that indulging in this art is okay. He needed to hear that, to feel better about himself. But did so in a way where he could look like an asshole instead of a pedo. He's that scared about it. And I can't blame him.

Your cry for help has been heard. And I'm sorry that you have so much self hatred. But do make sure you listen to the people here. Porn is not blood in the water getting a shark worked up. Porn is a salad. It fills up that hunger even if it wasn't that great. You never NEED that steak, you can eat salad your entire life. And that is just what you will ahve to do. Starving yourself is only going to make things worse. So add those cub images back into your favourites, stop acting like a douche, and bear with it. Acting how you are now, I'm not at all convinced you're one of the safe ones. Even if you are out of shape and never leave your house, and could be overpowered by a child, just having this self destructive attitude makes you a danger.

So grow up already.

toomanybirds said:
The fuck are you talking about? I agreed I had cub art in my favorites, but it was because I didn't realize it was cub art. I either thought it was a femboy or something, didn't know the character, or it was incorrectly tagged, such as when there was an aged up character for some reason it still had cub in the tags. There wasn't a single piece of art in my favorites that was blatantly "adult with child". I wasn't hiding anything, I acknowledged the problem and removed it because I don't want that stuff in my favorites, it really was as simple as that. I was done with this conversation because at this point it was clear no matter what I said it wouldn't matter to anyone here, plus apparently pointing out "pedophilia bad" counts as "spamming or trolling" on this site. Regardless, I ain't gonna stand by and let you slander me. I say "pedophilia is bad" and you somehow turn that into "I'm a self hating pedophile". You clearly just wanted to stir the pot and didn't read anything I said.

Edit: of course the comments where I say pedophilia bad get me banned for 5 days because apparently that's trolling/spamming despite it not being a personal attack on anyone, just general comments saying you probably shouldn't indulge in this stuff. But comments like this trying to psychoanalyze me and literally slander and insult me go unchecked. And of course I'm getting downvotes yet again because people would rather derail the conversation and try and insult me rather than actually make any points whatsoever.

To be fair, its kinda reasonable that the mods would view its spam/trolling to come onto cub images and start saying its pedophilia. Most adults can typically distinguish reality from fiction, most kids and teens at a certain age also tend to at least know that cartoons are not real life.

Another thing to note, not all people who are into cub are into kids. It's also not always an age related kink either. For example, I myself love most cub art because I absolutely adore the concept of cute characters put into lewd and raunchy situations. It just so happens that MOST cub characters are made explicitly to be cute at their core. So as a result they are the perfect choice for me.

TL;DR, I think maybe instead of calling cub pedophilia it would be better to just move on in the future when seeing cub and just not pay it any attention. and if that doesn't work there are blacklists too

TooManyBirds said:
We're talking about a pic where a dad is using a vibrator on his toddler daughter and it sparks a discussion on how unrealistic it is because he's gay. This site is fucked up.

Welcum to the world of porn! Where people can draw what they want to please themselves and other people. So, shut up and enjoy.

joemama69420 said:
Excuse me, you privileged human being. If you have a problem with there being a site where pedophiles can go on to masturbate in peace without having any real-life children involved, then maybe the real problem isn't with the site.
Real-life child porn is not acceptable in any circumstances, but this is literally just a drawing. A very well-made drawing, might I add. No one is getting hurt here. Go home.

Edit: Also, "stop people from being pedophiles"? You know that pedophilia is a mental illness, right? One that people get born with, and can't do anything about? And that on it's own is somehow wrong?
I can only guess that you're referring to child molesters, so let me remind you: A pedophile and a child molester are two different things. The main reason why you only hear of pedophiles that did rape people is because the ones that didn't don't tell people that they're pedophiles. Simple as that.
As long as you fail to see the difference, you're a part of the problem.

We're talking about a dude who thinks cartoons are real, let's not go so hard on him.

toomanybirds said:
I agreed I had cub art in my favorites, but it was because I didn't realize it was cub art. I either thought it was a femboy or something...

h o w

gittons said:
He literally has a wife and child.

His wife divorced him, also he could have been closeted, or confused with his sexuality

There's nothing wrong with it as long as the cub feels good

toomanybirds said:
I never said that all pedophiles will go on to harm children if they look at fictional porn. What I'm saying is that by indulging in that porn, and by discussing with other likeminded people about your fetish, you're normalizing the concept in your head, even if subconsciously. Which could end up bringing someone to try it in real life if the fictional art becomes "not enough" and they need more. That's actually how a lot of child molesters/rapists start out, it's a real thing that does happen. You're essentially using the fictional art as a substitute for the real thing. Which is preferable than actually harming children for sure. But it's still an unhealthy coping mechanism that could lead you down the wrong path. The best way to deal with your urges is to seek help and go to therapy, not give into them.

Sounds like a fan theory.

I find it funny how some dislike more the fact he's a gay guy set in a straight scenario than that it's a cub pic.

I don't mind either.