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  • I never understood why people would get so upset about the iconography presented here. It's just a remnant of a dead ideology, stop giving it so much power.

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  • lehanna said:
    I never understood why people would get so upset about the iconography presented here. It's just a remnant of a dead ideology, stop giving it so much power.

    Apparently not since there are many people that still believe in that garbage

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  • You could post a picture of her in an nkvd outfit executing polish children and these people wouldn't care, these outraged people only care about this because they associate nazi's with their modern political enemies.

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  • lehanna said:
    I never understood why people would get so upset about the iconography presented here. It's just a remnant of a dead ideology, stop giving it so much power.

    I wish it wasnt given so much power, it's a guilty pleasure of mine but the outfits just look so fucking cool and I blame epic battle fantasy for it. If it wasnt going to socially kill me I'd wear one as a halloween outfit someday

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    dd_dodo said:
    My Brian cells are dying thinking that the mods on this sight allow Nazis

    Give those cells back to Brian, he needs them more than you do.

    I suggest that you take this opportunity to learn how to blacklist tags you dislike.
    You can read more at the corresponding wiki page: e621:blacklist.

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  • dd_dodo said:
    My Brian cells are dying thinking that the mods on this sight allow Nazis

    IDEK, Theres a dude over there that still has the nazi tails miles PFP, If you dont want to see nazi things again you can blacklist it

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  • dd_dodo said:
    My Brian cells are dying thinking that the mods on this sight allow Nazis

    Mine are dying reading your sentence.

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  • dd_dodo said:
    My Brian cells are dying thinking that the mods on this sight allow Nazis

    don't worry, they just actually do. mods on this site just don't actually care about lots of kinds of hate art and manually approve of it daily

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  • funny how e621 users blow a fuse over nazi art but are totally chill with cub art

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  • renadude said:
    I love this latina foxy so much <3 I don't even care that she hates my race

    You're leaning too hard into something someone said in a private DM.

    superscum said:
    The owner of this character is a masks off racist. So people are leaning hard into it.

    Some as a means of criticizing them, others as a means of unironically supporting them. You can see a nice spread of both in these very comments

    Saying something racist to a friend, and actually being racist are two different things. I've said and especially thought some pretty messed up things before that i don't actually believe. Pretty sure a lot of people have. Now if she was going around legitimately spreading hate speech, that's a completely different story.

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  • lehanna said:
    I never understood why people would get so upset about the iconography presented here. It's just a remnant of a dead ideology, stop giving it so much power.

    Ideals don't die, especially when we have to learn history about it in school. If an idea exists, there are always going to be people stupid enough to try and emulate it.

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  • waba said:
    Apparently not since there are many people that still believe in that garbage

    define that "garbage", and we'll see how laughable your understanding is.

    vk2002 said:
    You could post a picture of her in an nkvd outfit executing polish children and these people wouldn't care, these outraged people only care about this because they associate nazi's with their modern political enemies.

    or they simply are just brainwashed/misinformed, and taught to have a knee-jerk reaction for specific words and symbolism. you can look at the "communism" tag and see how almost all of them are upvoted, because most users here don't even know what either ideologies are, they just have pre-learned reactions to them.

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  • sekriess said:
    Ironically, that outfit looks cute on her. But c'mon anonymous.... this is legit harassment. Not chill bro.

    It’s parody art. Imagine if South Park got canceled for making gay jokes about every celebrity on Earth.

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  • sekriess said:
    You're leaning too hard into something someone said in a private DM.

    Saying something racist to a friend, and actually being racist are two different things. I've said and especially thought some pretty messed up things before that i don't actually believe. Pretty sure a lot of people have. Now if she was going around legitimately spreading hate speech, that's a completely different story.

    *sigh*
    why would you say something you're going to seriously regret? let alone claim that you don't believe in? I mean I always apologize whenever I unintentionally offend someone but I cant speak for you if that was your intension.

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  • barefootslavedragon said:
    *sigh*
    why would you say something you're going to seriously regret? let alone claim that you don't believe in? I mean I always apologize whenever I unintentionally offend someone but I cant speak for you if that was your intension.

    Doesn't seem you quite understand what i was saying. People say stupid things. It doesnt mean they believe it.

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  • sekriess said:
    Doesn't seem you quite understand what i was saying. People say stupid things. It doesnt mean they believe it.

    Well if you admit you screwed up, then how come you make no attempt to redeem yourself to your once fans? From what I understand about the drama, you were rather unapologetic and were chill with getting hated on (correct me if I am wrong)

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  • barefootslavedragon said:
    Well if you admit you screwed up, then how come you make no attempt to redeem yourself to your once fans? From what I understand about the drama, you were rather unapologetic and were chill with getting hated on (correct me if I am wrong)

    Fiddle had nothing to apologize for, that was a personal conversation between *her* and a friend. I don't see you apologizing for every single thing you've said up to this point throughout your life.

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  • sekriess said:
    I don't see you apologizing for every single thing you've said up to this point throughout your life.

    wow I never knew I spent my whole life on discord/chats considering I wasn't using discord when I was 5 telling my mom I didn't steal candy before dinner when I actually did. Absolutely obscure analogy and that makes zero sense
    You literally dodged my question as I asked if you, yourself, feel you made an ass out of yourself by saying racist/discriminatory things but if you really want to play the privilege card where being a non-minority means you don't mind seeing others thrown under the bus since it cannot affect you but only others then this is why people are judging you.

    But to answer your unrelated and unrealistic question, yes I would apologize if someone accused me of saying something offensive. And in rare cases, if they refuse to accept it and are only seeking ammunition to cancel people and be toxic because they are tough guys looking for drama, then it becomes their problem, not your's and you should move on. My issue here is that based on the answer you gave me, you didn't bother with the first half of trying to heal things (apologizing), you just put more gasoline on the bridge instead meaning its hard to hear out your side of the story. And believe it or not, people do in fact have a problem with others hating on their ethnicity which btw includes their families and friends. I'm literally only here because I wanted to understand your side of the story, not hear an excuse that perfectly sounds like schrodinger’s douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s%20douchebag)

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  • barefootslavedragon said:
    wow I never knew I spent my whole life on discord/chats considering I wasn't using discord when I was 5 telling my mom I didn't steal candy before dinner when I actually did. Absolutely obscure analogy and that makes zero sense
    You literally dodged my question as I asked if you, yourself, feel you made an ass out of yourself by saying racist/discriminatory things but if you really want to play the privilege card where being a non-minority means you don't mind seeing others thrown under the bus since it cannot affect you but only others then this is why people are judging you.

    But to answer your unrelated and unrealistic question, yes I would apologize if someone accused me of saying something offensive. And in rare cases, if they refuse to accept it and are only seeking ammunition to cancel people and be toxic because they are tough guys looking for drama, then it becomes their problem, not your's and you should move on. My issue here is that based on the answer you gave me, you didn't bother with the first half of trying to heal things (apologizing), you just put more gasoline on the bridge instead meaning its hard to hear out your side of the story. And believe it or not, people do in fact have a problem with others hating on their ethnicity which btw includes their families and friends. I'm literally only here because I wanted to understand your side of the story, not hear an excuse that perfectly sounds like schrodinger’s douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s%20douchebag)

    Saying anything racist is a shit move, but yes I've told offensive jokes before, and said some things i shouldn't have or did not actually believe. Again... Pretty sure everyone has at some point. Your English is just bad so it's hard to understand your questions. But point being i wouldn't feel the need to apologize to the world if someone for example took my discord history and posted the things I've said for the public to see. ALL OF THAT, is none of anyone's business except to those I said it too. Noone should feel the need to apologize for being human or making mistakes.

    As to why I said those nondescript things, like I said, it's none of anyone's business but mine and the person i said it too. Maybe i thought it was funny at the time, maybe i was venting, maybe I just felt like it, etc. Again, as long as i'm not running around openly spreading hate speech on open forums or personally offending anyone with a targeted joke at them in particular, I don't see any reason to apologize. And that's the entire point. Jokes aren't always funny to everyone, but i like to find the humor in things, that's why i'm happier than some people. That's why I don't get offended and up in everyone's business like some kind of moral crusader. Am i gonna get into your business if i see you say some messed up things? No, i will not. Am i gonna step in when a mob starts slamming on an artist or a user over some dumb stuff that was none of their business to begin with? Yes. This isn't hollywood. There's no need for "paparazzi." Nobody as an individual deserves to be treated as something they are not, as ANYTHING less than human. And targeting them like Fiddle was targeted makes them worse than the person they're bashing on. If you ask me the world needs to go back to the way it was 20 years ago when a simple joke didn't get everyone's jammies in a knot.

    barefootslavedragon said:
    wow I never knew I spent my whole life on discord/chats

    It's not about just discord. Those offensive jokes you told in school? Apologize. That one time you said that one thing that got someone real mad. Apologize to everyone here for it. Any time you got on someone else's nerves, you should directly apologize to everyone you know for it. That's what my rant is about. They're expecting some person *they've literally never met* to hand out a heartfelt apology to them like they expect her to beg for forgiveness. In any case i think i'm gonna end this here. This is like a half year old subject.

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  • barefootslavedragon said:
    *sigh*
    why would you say something you're going to seriously regret? let alone claim that you don't believe in? I mean I always apologize whenever I unintentionally offend someone but I cant speak for you if that was your intension.

    "Why?" Returning back to your original post to me, no offense but it's none of your business. It could be for a number of reasons that should not concern you. Though some of these things can be attributed to anger and a twisted sense of humor. I don't regret saying those things, because 9 times out of 10 i didnt mean it. Kinda like someone stepping on my phone and breaking it. I would say it's fine... It's not fine.

    barefootslavedragon said:
    Well if you admit you screwed up, then how come you make no attempt to redeem yourself to your once fans? From what I understand about the drama, you were rather unapologetic and were chill with getting hated on (correct me if I am wrong)

    When i personally offend someone, I *do* apologize depending on whether or not they're being a huge snowflake about it or not for no reason. Occassionally i dont apologize. Why? Like i said, they were being a snowflake about it. I.e. if someone hands me a pet grooming glove, I would say "What are you saying, that i got a hairy back?" as a joke and they get all upset about it like i just inconvenienced the crap out of them I wouldn't apologize. It's like, explain your mental process that led to you being upset. (This is a true story example btw.) Now if i accidentally slipped in a stereotypical/racial undertone, I'd apologize.

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  • sekriess said:
    It's not about just discord. Those offensive jokes you told in school? Apologize. That one time you said that one thing that got someone real mad. Apologize to everyone here for it. Any time you got on someone else's nerves, you should directly apologize to everyone you know for it. That's what my rant is about. They're expecting some person *they've literally never met* to hand out a heartfelt apology to them like they expect her to beg for forgiveness. In any case i think i'm gonna end this here. This is like a half year old subject.

    If I didn't apologize for those things you mentioned then I would gladly admit that I have made an ass out of myself if I have offended someone who I truly do not have anything against, especially if they feel attacked because of their beliefs/identity. I literally see zilch coming from you, almost like you're proud of it. Also please see schrodinger’s douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s%20douchebag)

    Your English is just bad so it's hard to understand your questions.

    ookay uou graemmer fascit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiYqTcaq_Zo
    Bash me for playing the devil's advocate for your side, eh?

    Occassionally i dont apologize. Why? Like i said, they were being a snowflake about it. I.e. if someone hands me a pet grooming glove, I would say "What are you saying, that i got a hairy back?" as a joke and they get all upset

    I literally just covered that when I said:
    "But to answer your unrelated and unrealistic question, yes I would apologize if someone accused me of saying something offensive. And in rare cases, if they refuse to accept it and are only seeking ammunition to cancel people and be toxic because they are tough guys looking for drama, then it becomes their problem, not your's and you should move on. My issue here is that based on the answer you gave me, you didn't bother with the first half of trying to heal things (apologizing), you just put more gasoline on the bridge instead meaning its hard to hear out your side of the story."

    The ugly picture is out and your fans (once fans) are upset at you, not because of your intensions at that moment, but because of your actions. We are not worried about the individual persons you have beef with, the topic is about racism because you don't attack a single person under racism but an entire group of people. You do realize that by not wanting to take back the things you said, you're implying that you stand by them?
    I don't know about you man but as an Iraqi Canadian, living in america, who is black-passing, I am definitely not someone who can relate to your level of un-marginalized ethnic privilege. Now that I've told you this, you most likely are already making negative judgments about how I would look, my religion, the way I talk, etc. I'm pretty sure if my boss was describing me as the "desert n****r over there" to one of his friends to point out who he was talking about, and one of my coworkers told me about this, you can sure bet I will make judgements despite my boss (in this example) not ever saying anything racist when I am around

    Believe it or not people are not as "snowflakey" as you make it sound considering racism is not a minor topic (referring to your grooming glove example). From what I now see, nobody has cancelled you better than yourself. Someone took advantage of your racist messages: putting you in a stressful environment and then boom, your true colors have been revealed.

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  • barefootslavedragon said:
    If I didn't apologize for those things you mentioned then I would gladly admit that I have made an ass out of myself if I have offended someone who I truly do not have anything against, especially if they feel attacked because of their beliefs/identity. I literally see zilch coming from you, almost like you're proud of it. Also please see schrodinger’s douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s%20douchebag)

    ookay uou graemmer fascit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiYqTcaq_Zo
    Bash me for playing the devil's advocate for your side, eh?

    I literally just covered that when I said:
    "But to answer your unrelated and unrealistic question, yes I would apologize if someone accused me of saying something offensive. And in rare cases, if they refuse to accept it and are only seeking ammunition to cancel people and be toxic because they are tough guys looking for drama, then it becomes their problem, not your's and you should move on. My issue here is that based on the answer you gave me, you didn't bother with the first half of trying to heal things (apologizing), you just put more gasoline on the bridge instead meaning its hard to hear out your side of the story."

    The ugly picture is out and your fans (once fans) are upset at you, not because of your intensions at that moment, but because of your actions. We are not worried about the individual persons you have beef with, the topic is about racism because you don't attack a single person under racism but an entire group of people. You do realize that by not wanting to take back the things you said, you're implying that you stand by them?
    I don't know about you man but as an Iraqi Canadian, living in america, who is black-passing, I am definitely not someone who can relate to your level of un-marginalized ethnic privilege. Now that I've told you this, you most likely are already making negative judgments about how I would look, my religion, the way I talk, etc. I'm pretty sure if my boss was describing me as the "desert n****r over there" to one of his friends to point out who he was talking about, and one of my coworkers told me about this, you can sure bet I will make judgements despite my boss (in this example) not ever saying anything racist when I am around

    Believe it or not people are not as "snowflakey" as you make it sound considering racism is not a minor topic (referring to your grooming glove example). From what I now see, nobody has cancelled you better than yourself. Someone took advantage of your racist messages: putting you in a stressful environment and then boom, your true colors have been revealed.

    barefootslavedragon said:
    If I didn't apologize for those things you mentioned then I would gladly admit that I have made an ass out of myself if I have offended someone who I truly do not have anything against, especially if they feel attacked because of their beliefs/identity. I literally see zilch coming from you, almost like you're proud of it. Also please see schrodinger’s douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s%20douchebag)

    ookay uou graemmer fascit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiYqTcaq_Zo
    Bash me for playing the devil's advocate for your side, eh?

    I literally just covered that when I said:
    "But to answer your unrelated and unrealistic question, yes I would apologize if someone accused me of saying something offensive. And in rare cases, if they refuse to accept it and are only seeking ammunition to cancel people and be toxic because they are tough guys looking for drama, then it becomes their problem, not your's and you should move on. My issue here is that based on the answer you gave me, you didn't bother with the first half of trying to heal things (apologizing), you just put more gasoline on the bridge instead meaning its hard to hear out your side of the story."

    The ugly picture is out and your fans (once fans) are upset at you, not because of your intensions at that moment, but because of your actions. We are not worried about the individual persons you have beef with, the topic is about racism because you don't attack a single person under racism but an entire group of people. You do realize that by not wanting to take back the things you said, you're implying that you stand by them?
    I don't know about you man but as an Iraqi Canadian, living in america, who is black-passing, I am definitely not someone who can relate to your level of un-marginalized ethnic privilege. Now that I've told you this, you most likely are already making negative judgments about how I would look, my religion, the way I talk, etc. I'm pretty sure if my boss was describing me as the "desert n****r over there" to one of his friends to point out who he was talking about, and one of my coworkers told me about this, you can sure bet I will make judgements despite my boss (in this example) not ever saying anything racist when I am around

    Believe it or not people are not as "snowflakey" as you make it sound considering racism is not a minor topic (referring to your grooming glove example). From what I now see, nobody has cancelled you better than yourself. Someone took advantage of your racist messages: putting you in a stressful environment and then boom, your true colors have been revealed.

    Some people don't deserve an apology. I shouldn't have to tell you that. I dont even know where you're getting the idea that i'm ethnically priviledged. Or the fact that I'm white. And dude, making judgements is a *human* flaw (you're literally doing it right now). It really sounds like you have issues. But again, you're only human too. And on top of that it sounds like you're making alot of assumptions. Chill out a bit. Even with that wall of text, I'm seriously not understanding your issue here.

    Somewhere in here is a misunderstanding. Either that or you're looking for a reaction. Good luck with that.

    I never claimed to be a good person but Facist? That's cute. Sounds like you're using words you don't understand. I also use words i don't understand so i sound more photosynthesis.

    "Barefootslavedragon": Believe it or not people are not as "snowflakey" as you make it sound considering racism is not a minor topic

    I was referring to jokes in general, not *just* race jokes. I may not be a good person, but what you're saying is defamation. Are you trying to Fiddleafox me? You're literally trying to demonize me for something you've probably done yourself dozens of times over considering you're doing it right this very second on the premise of who you think i am and what you think i look like. *And under no circumstances do I condone serious racism.* You've no grounds to base that on... I literally just bashed the artist here for posting nazi art based on a hispanic person's character, not that it matters. When all's said and done, I don't truly see color as a means to differentiate between people. I love and hate everyone equally, unless they're childish, then i hate them more equally. We're all grown adults here, at least i hope so, maybe act like it. Jokes aside, nobody deserves to be treated as anything less than human. If you have a personal prejudice against someone based on their race, or are flatout racist (two different things, by the way) then i want nothing to do with you.

    In any case, i hope you work your issues out at some point in your life, whatever they may be.

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  • sekriess said:
    I never claimed to be a good person but Facist?

    yeah i'm not gonna ruin the joke to you for my reason for spelling that wrong

    Or the fact that I'm white

    never said that. also Albinefox, the white nationalist furry troll, is also hispanic so playing the "not white" card isnt much of a convincing argument. There are literally rednecks in the deep south who figure out that one of their parents is a native american yet they still hang out in the Klan.

    I may not be a good person, but what you're saying is defamation.

    by asking you about the things you wrote yourself? you do realize you're the only person I had interaction with about this drama. I was just curious tbh

    One last thing, I'm not implying that you are racist, I'm saying the result of your humor is. If you're going to do that between your friends in direct messages then go crazy. I just had a problem how when someone decided to use that as ammunition against you, you acted like the people who would be offended by your "jokes" are exclusively snowflakes and I wanted to call you out on that. I just think you could have handled things a lot better initially like acknowledging that those where racist messages but also building the context that they had no more value than just edgy humor.
    Though you've said you're not a good person so I guess you do you, but you know the saying: what goes around, comes around

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  • jasonsimnov said:
    FUCK OFF NAZIFURS! And what the fuck is wrong with the mods that they’re allowing this content?!

    In general stuff is approved or deleted here strictly on quality and relevancy. The piece is decent quality and the subject is site relevant (furry) so it has been approved.
    Content wise it's not something we would prefer people to add to our archive; I for one would rather see more small figure in grand backgrounds such as post #1659228

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  • mmmm0w0 said:
    “Just blacklist it!”

    Dude this persons a literal nazi. Why are Nazis so prevelant in the furry fandom?

    why is cub so prevalent in the furry fandom? :troll:

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  • lachry said:
    why is cub so prevalent in the furry fandom? :troll:

    Liking fictional porn is different from wanting an entire race to die.

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  • thatoneanon2 said:
    I wish it wasnt given so much power, it's a guilty pleasure of mine but the outfits just look so fucking cool and I blame epic battle fantasy for it. If it wasnt going to socially kill me I'd wear one as a halloween outfit someday

    The SS uniforms were stylish on purpose, you can learn about them here or here

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  • millcore said:
    In general stuff is approved or deleted here strictly on quality and relevancy. The piece is decent quality and the subject is site relevant (furry) so it has been approved.
    Content wise it's not something we would prefer people to add to our archive; I for one would rather see more small figure in grand backgrounds such as post #1659228

    I'm literally Ashkenazi Jewish and you gave me a warning for having an issue with somebody being antisemitic.
    This website is garbage, I hope you get demoted for careless moderation, and I'm glad I have moved to FA.
    All of the moderators here need to get their rules in check, especially when it comes to identifying what is actual hate or not.

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  • thatoneanon2 said:
    I wish it wasnt given so much power, it's a guilty pleasure of mine but the outfits just look so fucking cool and I blame epic battle fantasy for it. If it wasnt going to socially kill me I'd wear one as a halloween outfit someday

    Oh yeah Lance's outfit is just baller

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  • taf said:
    I'm literally Ashkenazi Jewish and you gave me a warning for having an issue with somebody being antisemitic.
    This website is garbage, I hope you get demoted for careless moderation, and I'm glad I have moved to FA.
    All of the moderators here need to get their rules in check, especially when it comes to identifying what is actual hate or not.

    Yeah, sorry you feel that way. I feel your frustration. I know a lot of cowardly 4chan style users like to tag-team political things since that’s their kick and furries are an easy target for them.

    As for the rules, I do get frustrated at times as they are weird (and mods have improved over the years) but it kinda needs to be that way at times as I’ve come to understand it, or else trolls will exploit it and the goal is to archive artwork. If you end up stopping by, hit me a note on FA and we can talk if you’d like

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  • millcore said:
    ; I for one would rather see more small figure in grand backgrounds such as post #1659228

    Just wondering, because commenting has its own rules (unlike artwork as long as it looks good), would users expressing/platforming fascism/racism get warnings?
    For instance, I’ve seen users get records for simply saying “same” as they reply to a sexually explicit descriptive scenario (from artwork or comment) which counts as “creepy comments”, so would saying “based” to a work that is obviously racist/offensive count as hate speech/trolling? I’d assume so but just making sure

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  • taf said:
    I'm literally Ashkenazi Jewish and you gave me a warning for having an issue with somebody being antisemitic.
    This website is garbage, I hope you get demoted for careless moderation, and I'm glad I have moved to FA.
    All of the moderators here need to get their rules in check, especially when it comes to identifying what is actual hate or not.

    if you dont like this than blacklist it

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  • taf said:
    I'm literally Ashkenazi Jewish and you gave me a warning for having an issue with somebody being antisemitic.
    This website is garbage, I hope you get demoted for careless moderation, and I'm glad I have moved to FA.
    All of the moderators here need to get their rules in check, especially when it comes to identifying what is actual hate or not.

    What exactly makes you think you should get special treatment because you're Jewish?
    We'd have less antisemitic people around if it weren't for people like you making them feel validated.

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  • taf said:
    I'm literally Ashkenazi Jewish and you gave me a warning for having an issue with somebody being antisemitic.
    This website is garbage, I hope you get demoted for careless moderation, and I'm glad I have moved to FA.
    All of the moderators here need to get their rules in check, especially when it comes to identifying what is actual hate or not.

    Say no more, I wish palestine men kill you and feast on your flesh

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  • vk2002 said:
    You could post a picture of her in an nkvd outfit executing polish children and these people wouldn't care, these outraged people only care about this because they associate nazi's with their modern political enemies.

    Actually nazis would hate that too, europeans childs are not their objetive... So they yes, they, would hate that, their bullets are reserved for my people.

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