Seems like average bro stuff to me 👍🏻

Just bros being bros. Nothing weird about that!

Bro...

Never thought I would be splaying myself out for you, Amon..

it didn't take much to do it though...

The fourth panel is just perfect

Double the femboy, double the fun :)

feelthesun said:
Bassel is a girl?

No, he's a guy.

Not sarcasm, he's literally a guy.

feelthesun said:
Bassel is a girl?

From what I gather, FtM trans male. He has scars from a masectomy(?) on his chest.

justmysmurf said:
that doesn't look like any guy i've seen

Probably because you don't get none bro

ungovernable said:
andromorph. also, this is a furry fandom, he doesnt have to

no, he's trans. You can literally see the scars from where he had surgery to remove breasts. Which, honestly, is a nice touch. That shit doesn't go away.

feelthesun said:
Bassel is a girl?

Bassel seems to be in the process of transitioning. It's not done all at once. In general it's mental (figuring out that your psyche doesn't match your body), then chemical and visual (hormone changes, visual cues like adding or removing breasts, clothing), lifestyle (living fully as your identity, legal changes such as name and official identity) and genitals as the last thing. Genitals are done last because at that point it's not really reversible and is a very complicated (and therefore expensive) surgical/healing process. People transitioning can take years for the process of transition, not just for financial and "are you SURE" reasons, but also because it's very difficult on so many levels.

The downvotes are aimed at "is a girl", as a simplistic statement that shows a lack of understanding. For people transitioning, that's questioning the core of identity. Is "girl" determined only between the ears or only between the legs? Assuming it's purely one or the other is seen as trivializing the difficulty, mentally and physically, of dealing with a mismatch of body and soul. It's one of the reasons people get so wound up about pronouns. While I think that sometimes people are too eager to assume that using the wrong pronoun is intentionally a personal attack, there is a reason it's a hot button topic. Every time it occurs, it hits as "you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong." The hurt is usually unintentional (which is why white knights need to chill unless there is evidence otherwise), but the hurt is very real. You just have to look at the suicide rate and the homelessness rate of transgendered people in conservative cultures to see just how painful that hurt can be and how isolated/unaccepted these people can be.

Getting back to the story itself. Consider Amon and Bassel's apparent ages. If either are old enough for a beer, I'd be surprised. Yet Bassel is living on his own. That's unusual, at least in the society that seems to be depicted here. Why is someone in their late teens living on their own? Sure, it could be early success, but it also could be due to Bassel not being accepted at home, and thus having little choice but to make it on his own. It's a testament to his character that he can be successful enough to live on his own AND afford the progress that he's made. It also might account for the partial transition; what has been done so far for him (breast removal, hormonal, lifestyle) is relatively inexpensive compared to the final stage (genital surgery). Maybe this is all he can afford so far. But he seems to be happy as things are, and while the future may hold the final reward he doesn't seem to be miserable.

Bassel is an admirable fellow. Sexy AF too.

octaviauwu said:
Probably because you don't get none bro

Damn fuck 'em up

shingen said:
it didn't take much to do it though...

You say that, but if your friend has a built in vibrator on their body, wouldn't you experiment further? You know, for fun.

What’s better than this? Guys bein dudes!

Completely platonic, of course. What's a small favour between bros?

Just for fun, no homo.

weaselsmasher said:

*The 3rd paragraph*

I always saw bassel just coming from a pretty wealthy family, the only known member of his family that doesn't accept him for transitioning is his grandma, which ik we can't assume it isn't the same with his parents but the progress he's gotten, despite his age being 19 probably shows he IS supported by his parents.

The other biggest reason to me why he comes from a wealthy family? He has a car, i feel like either cars are cheap in this universe, or he's loaded. I dunno, that's just my interpretation.

Just guys being dudes. What's better than this?

noveltwin said:
Guy in the gender sense. Girl in the biological sense. A Female Dude Bro, if you will. Maternal Macho Man.

I don't think this is as cool a thing to say as you think it is.

Consider Amon and Bassel's apparent ages. If either are old enough for a beer, I'd be surprised. Yet Bassel is living on his own. That's unusual, at least in the society that seems to be depicted here. Why is someone in their late teens living on their own? Sure, it could be early success, but it also could be due to Bassel not being accepted at home, and thus having little choice but to make it on his own. It's a testament to his character that he can be successful enough to live on his own AND afford the progress that he's made.

I guess Bassel got a good scholarship for G.S.U. due to his swimming skills. Therefore he might have rented a flat nearer to the university. So far we cannot say for sure how supportive his family is or not.

weaselsmasher said:
Bassel seems to be in the process of transitioning. It's not done all at once. In general it's mental (figuring out that your psyche doesn't match your body), then chemical and visual (hormone changes, visual cues like adding or removing breasts, clothing), lifestyle (living fully as your identity, legal changes such as name and official identity) and genitals as the last thing. Genitals are done last because at that point it's not really reversible and is a very complicated (and therefore expensive) surgical/healing process. People transitioning can take years for the process of transition, not just for financial and "are you SURE" reasons, but also because it's very difficult on so many levels.

The downvotes are aimed at "is a girl", as a simplistic statement that shows a lack of understanding. For people transitioning, that's questioning the core of identity. Is "girl" determined only between the ears or only between the legs? Assuming it's purely one or the other is seen as trivializing the difficulty, mentally and physically, of dealing with a mismatch of body and soul. It's one of the reasons people get so wound up about pronouns. While I think that sometimes people are too eager to assume that using the wrong pronoun is intentionally a personal attack, there is a reason it's a hot button topic. Every time it occurs, it hits as "you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong." The hurt is usually unintentional (which is why white knights need to chill unless there is evidence otherwise), but the hurt is very real. You just have to look at the suicide rate and the homelessness rate of transgendered people in conservative cultures to see just how painful that hurt can be and how isolated/unaccepted these people can be.

Getting back to the story itself. Consider Amon and Bassel's apparent ages. If either are old enough for a beer, I'd be surprised. Yet Bassel is living on his own. That's unusual, at least in the society that seems to be depicted here. Why is someone in their late teens living on their own? Sure, it could be early success, but it also could be due to Bassel not being accepted at home, and thus having little choice but to make it on his own. It's a testament to his character that he can be successful enough to live on his own AND afford the progress that he's made. It also might account for the partial transition; what has been done so far for him (breast removal, hormonal, lifestyle) is relatively inexpensive compared to the final stage (genital surgery). Maybe this is all he can afford so far. But he seems to be happy as things are, and while the future may hold the final reward he doesn't seem to be miserable.

Bassel is an admirable fellow. Sexy AF too.

I enjoyed reading this, also you seem to know alot about this which is handy

I really hate the comments sections on images with trans people in them

murfmasfd said:
I really hate the comments sections on images with trans people in them

i believe there's a quote by a trans comedian that goes something like "every day we have to argue for our own existence" and e6 is just FULL of it. at least the art is good

benjiboyo said:
You say that, but if your friend has a built in vibrator on their body, wouldn't you experiment further? You know, for fun.

eh?
i would. of course i would. i would a long time before. as in: without the silly "oh i never thought i would do that". which was my point.
i just don't get the "hey, we like each other very much, and find each other attractive, but i'd have NEVER EVER thought that we could POSSIBLY have sex" attitude. come on. :|

weaselsmasher said:
The downvotes are aimed at "is a girl", as a simplistic statement that shows a lack of understanding. For people transitioning, that's questioning the core of identity. Is "girl" determined only between the ears or only between the legs? Assuming it's purely one or the other is seen as trivializing the difficulty, mentally and physically, of dealing with a mismatch of body and soul. It's one of the reasons people get so wound up about pronouns. While I think that sometimes people are too eager to assume that using the wrong pronoun is intentionally a personal attack, there is a reason it's a hot button topic. Every time it occurs, it hits as "you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong." The hurt is usually unintentional

Yea I feel bad for them getting all those downvotes, its only natural response for a person to be confused if someone who identified and dressed male to show their bits and have it be of the opposite of what the stated gender has.

lusskthewendigo said:
Yea I feel bad for them getting all those downvotes, its only natural response for a person to be confused if someone who identified and dressed male to show their bits and have it be of the opposite of what the stated gender has.

It's not just heavily implied, but basically stated that he's trans from like, page 4. Sure, genitals could be anything and aren't always the same, but they just sound really uneducated and uninformed when despite the multiple hints and statements, they could've said "wait bassel has a vagina?" which would easily soften the blow.

shingen said:
eh?
i would. of course i would. i would a long time before. as in: without the silly "oh i never thought i would do that". which was my point.
i just don't get the "hey, we like each other very much, and find each other attractive, but i'd have NEVER EVER thought that we could POSSIBLY have sex" attitude. come on. :|

They've never met after bassel went to uni, and before that, seeing each other sexually was probably the last things on their minds.

weaselsmasher said:
Bassel seems to be in the process of transitioning. It's not done all at once. In general it's mental (figuring out that your psyche doesn't match your body), then chemical and visual (hormone changes, visual cues like adding or removing breasts, clothing), lifestyle (living fully as your identity, legal changes such as name and official identity) and genitals as the last thing. Genitals are done last because at that point it's not really reversible and is a very complicated (and therefore expensive) surgical/healing process. People transitioning can take years for the process of transition, not just for financial and "are you SURE" reasons, but also because it's very difficult on so many levels.

transition isn't the same for everyone. that's how some people's transitions go, but many trans people don't want bottom surgery.
(edit, snip)

murfmasfd said:
I really hate the comments sections on images with trans people in them

I'd say the same... reading certain comments on these posts is very unfortunate.

weaselsmasher said:
Bassel seems to be in the process of transitioning. It's not done all at once. In general it's mental (figuring out that your psyche doesn't match your body), then chemical and visual (hormone changes, visual cues like adding or removing breasts, clothing), lifestyle (living fully as your identity, legal changes such as name and official identity) and genitals as the last thing. Genitals are done last because at that point it's not really reversible and is a very complicated (and therefore expensive) surgical/healing process. People transitioning can take years for the process of transition, not just for financial and "are you SURE" reasons, but also because it's very difficult on so many levels.

The downvotes are aimed at "is a girl", as a simplistic statement that shows a lack of understanding. For people transitioning, that's questioning the core of identity. Is "girl" determined only between the ears or only between the legs? Assuming it's purely one or the other is seen as trivializing the difficulty, mentally and physically, of dealing with a mismatch of body and soul. It's one of the reasons people get so wound up about pronouns. While I think that sometimes people are too eager to assume that using the wrong pronoun is intentionally a personal attack, there is a reason it's a hot button topic. Every time it occurs, it hits as "you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong." The hurt is usually unintentional (which is why white knights need to chill unless there is evidence otherwise), but the hurt is very real. You just have to look at the suicide rate and the homelessness rate of transgendered people in conservative cultures to see just how painful that hurt can be and how isolated/unaccepted these people can be.

Getting back to the story itself. Consider Amon and Bassel's apparent ages. If either are old enough for a beer, I'd be surprised. Yet Bassel is living on his own. That's unusual, at least in the society that seems to be depicted here. Why is someone in their late teens living on their own? Sure, it could be early success, but it also could be due to Bassel not being accepted at home, and thus having little choice but to make it on his own. It's a testament to his character that he can be successful enough to live on his own AND afford the progress that he's made. It also might account for the partial transition; what has been done so far for him (breast removal, hormonal, lifestyle) is relatively inexpensive compared to the final stage (genital surgery). Maybe this is all he can afford so far. But he seems to be happy as things are, and while the future may hold the final reward he doesn't seem to be miserable.

Bassel is an admirable fellow. Sexy AF too.

Thanks for your understanding of people, duder

Seeing the quick transition from friends hanging out to getting busy, it occurred to me that Kyra's dialogue about him being free to have a relationship/sex with anyone he chose and wasn't tied down to her alone was to set it up so it wouldn't feel cheaty for him to have sex with Bassel in this chapter. For both us and potentially him (he likely overheard that, too.)

I was waiting for a duel of swords...

dashindragon said:
Ew those chest scars are cringe

Ew, your distaste is fucking cringe.

dashindragon said:
Ew those chest scars are cringe

then blacklist mastectomy_scar

rodenbeard said:
Hopefully this leads to Amon desiring his other mom- something I'd really like to see!

yall hate him cause he's right

noveltwin said:
Apparently. Those first two sentences however are still true, but obviously the puns were a bit much.

You know full well what they were referring to, transphobe.

nashqueradier said:
You know full well what they were referring to, transphobe.

Don't go throwing names around, I know what they were referring to and I admitted to it, which is why I edited out the puns in the post.

I will stand however by what's left of my comment. Bassel is biologically Female, Male gendered. That's not transphobic to say, it's literally the fact of the matter.

Oh man, I love living in a world where every post containing a open trans character leads to an argument.

This comic series may mostly be about incest, but damn, gotta love the trans rep

kelly_joy said:
I think atrolux is a little obsessed with trans people.

I'm not complaining. The vast majority of comics revolve around cis characters, so it's nice to see some variety. Plus I love the writing!

rodenbeard said:
Hopefully this leads to Amon desiring his other mom- something I'd really like to see!

I like how this comment was downvoted to hell and back, but then it totally came canon in the actual comic.

octaviauwu said:
Probably because you don't get none bro

Because it's not a bro

Hell yeah boy coochie time

weaselsmasher said:
Bassel seems to be in the process of transitioning. It's not done all at once. In general it's mental (figuring out that your psyche doesn't match your body), then chemical and visual (hormone changes, visual cues like adding or removing breasts, clothing), lifestyle (living fully as your identity, legal changes such as name and official identity) and genitals as the last thing. Genitals are done last because at that point it's not really reversible and is a very complicated (and therefore expensive) surgical/healing process. People transitioning can take years for the process of transition, not just for financial and "are you SURE" reasons, but also because it's very difficult on so many levels.

The downvotes are aimed at "is a girl", as a simplistic statement that shows a lack of understanding. For people transitioning, that's questioning the core of identity. Is "girl" determined only between the ears or only between the legs? Assuming it's purely one or the other is seen as trivializing the difficulty, mentally and physically, of dealing with a mismatch of body and soul. It's one of the reasons people get so wound up about pronouns. While I think that sometimes people are too eager to assume that using the wrong pronoun is intentionally a personal attack, there is a reason it's a hot button topic. Every time it occurs, it hits as "you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong." The hurt is usually unintentional (which is why white knights need to chill unless there is evidence otherwise), but the hurt is very real. You just have to look at the suicide rate and the homelessness rate of transgendered people in conservative cultures to see just how painful that hurt can be and how isolated/unaccepted these people can be.

Getting back to the story itself. Consider Amon and Bassel's apparent ages. If either are old enough for a beer, I'd be surprised. Yet Bassel is living on his own. That's unusual, at least in the society that seems to be depicted here. Why is someone in their late teens living on their own? Sure, it could be early success, but it also could be due to Bassel not being accepted at home, and thus having little choice but to make it on his own. It's a testament to his character that he can be successful enough to live on his own AND afford the progress that he's made. It also might account for the partial transition; what has been done so far for him (breast removal, hormonal, lifestyle) is relatively inexpensive compared to the final stage (genital surgery). Maybe this is all he can afford so far. But he seems to be happy as things are, and while the future may hold the final reward he doesn't seem to be miserable.

Bassel is an admirable fellow. Sexy AF too.

thank for the lesson!

throatgote said:
I keep this page of the comic around to induce vomiting in patients.

Looking at your mother triggers my acid reflux.

Guess that's one more thing to blacklist since I don't find that attractive. Repulsed actually

You know... I've seen people in this comment section saying that the mastectomy scars on Bassel are ugly... One, I totally disagree. Having scars from operations to help you feel comfortable in your own body is never ugly. And two, I can barely see them, they're blended in with Bassel's scale pattern so well that they're near invisible, so I really don't see what the big deal is.

yummy

Damn, the comments finding out that trans people exist

octaviauwu said:
Probably because you don't get none bro.

Ow that must hurt.