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  • dubsthefox said:
    Shouldn't this be tagged as cub? He looks quite small in comparison to the others.

    Heck no. I would never ever draw that. Theyre just a small cat. I believe the character is 25-26 ish years old. And also apparently older than the wolf.

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  • dubsthefox said:
    Shouldn't this be tagged as cub? He looks quite small in comparison to the others.

    Fair enough, not the case here though. The smaller is a cat and the larger are wolves. If you've ever seen a house cat and a wiled wolf I think you can see why the one might seem small by comparison to the other.

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  • I've removed the young and age difference tags from this post, I know the artist and each character pictured in this image personally and I know that each character is 26-27 years of age. It's a Banded Linsang and 2 Wolves so of course one of the characters is gonna be a lot smaller, small does not equal cub and the artist has already stated in the comments above that he will never draw cub.

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  • curveballbitchlmao said:
    That’s great and all but rules are tag what you see. Cub wasn’t tagged, only young, which is very obvious here. Even if the characters are XYZ old the way they’re drawn is not what an adult would look like, keyword look.

    Tag, what you see.

    Except as I said before, small does not mean young. Say for example someone were to draw Nick Wilde at his canon height which is 4' getting railed by their 10' Werewolf OC, does that automatically mean it'd get tagged as young or cub? Most likely not since people know his actual age, I guarantee you the tag what you see rule is ignored all the time and no one bats an eye.

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  • mangrovefox said:
    Except as I said before, small does not mean young. Say for example someone were to draw Nick Wilde at his canon height which is 4' getting railed by their 10' Werewolf OC, does that automatically mean it'd get tagged as young or cub? Most likely not since people know his actual age, I guarantee you the tag what you see rule is ignored all the time and no one bats an eye.

    Anyway, I'm far too stubborn to let this go and I will continue to argue it to the very end so before my account gets possibly striked or perma banned by the staff here I would like to say again for anyone that sees this at any point in the future. The artist of this piece has explicitly stated that he will never knowingly draw NSFW artwork depicting characters under the age of 18 so no matter what the tags on the e621 post say, the characters will always be 18 or above.

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  • tagwhatyouseeuhoh said:
    Artist quote means jack, there was some random comic involving a bird a couple years back, there was no dick visible but the author wanted it to be clear it was gay so they wrote “THIS IS GAY, MALE/MALE, DICK BIRD” (XD) in the MARGINS of the comic, but tag what you see and it was admin locked to ambiguous.

    I found that whole situation with the bird and the author comments hilarious but yeah, author note doesn’t matter and that clearly looks like someone not part of the 18+ gang

    Is this really all you have to do with you time? Add a bunch of young tags to posts that aren't young including posts that staff have locked the -young tag onto cause they aren't young? It's very obvious you're the same person on another account.

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  • tagwhatyouseeuhoh said:
    Artist quote means jack, there was some random comic involving a bird a couple years back, there was no dick visible but the author wanted it to be clear it was gay so they wrote “THIS IS GAY, MALE/MALE, DICK BIRD” (XD) in the MARGINS of the comic, but tag what you see and it was admin locked to ambiguous.

    I found that whole situation with the bird and the author comments hilarious but yeah, author note doesn’t matter and that clearly looks like someone not part of the 18+ gang

    Why are you attempting to associate me with pedophelia? Its rather rude.

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  • mangrovefox said:
    Anyway, I'm far too stubborn to let this go and I will continue to argue it to the very end so before my account gets possibly striked or perma banned by the staff here I would like to say again for anyone that sees this at any point in the future. The artist of this piece has explicitly stated that he will never knowingly draw NSFW artwork depicting characters under the age of 18 so no matter what the tags on the e621 post say, the characters will always be 18 or above.

    I've had a couple instances where people were doing this. I was just thinking about posting on the forums to talk about what the threshold is for "back and forth tag changing" or something. Because there is at least 8 posts that I've liked in the past that were very obviously not cub, was posted on FA, etc, and someone still went and changed it. At that point, I just unfavorite and go to the source and fav it there. Too many friends of mine know about my account and I don't want to have them see cub stuff on it and think that I'm some pedophile. Which I'm not.

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  • zekorus said:
    I've had a couple instances where people were doing this. I was just thinking about posting on the forums to talk about what the threshold is for "back and forth tag changing" or something. Because there is at least 8 posts that I've liked in the past that were very obviously not cub, was posted on FA, etc, and someone still went and changed it. At that point, I just unfavorite and go to the source and fav it there. Too many friends of mine know about my account and I don't want to have them see cub stuff on it and think that I'm some pedophile. Which I'm not.

    That's a good idea honestly, I went through all my favs on e621 and FA recently and removed everything off my favourites except for a select few things that I really really liked cause my preferences have changed and also there was stuff in them that I no longer like and have learnt is bad and do not wish to be associated with in any way. If things don't get sorted out then Dumderg will more than likely have the post taken down since he understandably doesn't wanna be associated with pedo stuff and it sucks it has to come to that, especially considering this is his most upvoted post to date.

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  • mangrovefox said:
    That's a good idea honestly, I went through all my favs on e621 and FA recently and removed everything off my favourites except for a select few things that I really really liked cause my preferences have changed and also there was stuff in them that I no longer like and have learnt is bad and do not wish to be associated with in any way. If things don't get sorted out then Dumderg will more than likely have the post taken down since he understandably doesn't wanna be associated with pedo stuff and it sucks it has to come to that, especially considering this is his most upvoted post to date.

    If you're curious, I did end up making a post about it here https://e621.net/forum_topics/32285?page=1#forum_post_326587
    It also seems like a staff locked the tags for this post so it is in-fact confirmed (rather its right or wrong) by staff to be underaged.

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  • dumderg said:
    Why are you attempting to associate me with pedophelia? Its rather rude.

    This is why we need to change how the cub tag is handled. This right here.

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  • dumderg said:
    Heck no. I would never ever draw that. Theyre just a small cat. I believe the character is 25-26 ish years old.

    Thank goodness! Did feel slightly concerned seeing it posted on reddit, came to check here, so glad it isn't because this is amazing, awesome work!!

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  • nicetryno8 said:
    So after being told a million times to just “add cub to blacklist” after complaining about it, I still have the displeasure of seeing kids on my searches.

    What’s the excuse this time?

    “no but they’re actually adults they just look like that”

    Then tag it as cub, cause that’s what this “looks” like

    I can tell youre the same individual making all the accounts, hun. It makes me really disappointed that this is what gets you hard. However, these antics are a wonderful study on anonymity character development, so I shall continue to watch with interest. I find this extremely subjective discourse intriguing, and the reason to your persistence against stated evidence from multiple sources must be a wonderfully heartfelt story. I may base a character off of this interaction, because I tend to never think in this type of negative rationality. Its very foreign to me! I just draw happy little dragons. >w<

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  • r0nthrfr14lf3r said:
    Thank goodness! Did feel slightly concerned seeing it posted on reddit, came to check here, so glad it isn't because this is amazing, awesome work!!

    Thank you!! A simplistic comic style has been working wonderfully with these animated pages, and animations in general come to that! I am highly anticipating doing more! Nothing makes me happier than drawing happy fluffy things

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  • nicetryno8 said:
    Yep. And I do so because some accounts are banned due to repeated addition of tags. I never meddled with tags until I got told to add it to my blacklist, and I still ended up seeing this rubbish. That’s why I have those. Not your weird fantasy. They do come in useful sometimes though, that’s futile to deny.

    Keep feeling superior that you think you know why I have multiple accounts though, it’s cute, if you put aside the pedophilia.

    Call it what you want, it’s still cub and you’re just in denial. You can’t claim that I’m trying to associate you with something if you have clearly done that.

    The appeal for cub is not the age number, it’s their physical appearance. A person is not sexually attracted to a number, and claim what you want, the appearance of this is of cub. Welcome to common sense.

    Are you okay, hun? Im worried there may be something more going on here than just this trivial opinion youre latching onto. Whats wrong? Youre obsessing over this to the point of making 8 entire accounts in order to squash any positivity in the comment section.

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  • nicetryno8 said:
    The appeal for cub is not the age number, it’s their physical appearance. Newsflash, a person is not sexually attracted to a number, and claim what you want, argue the age you want, the appearance of this is of cub. Welcome to common sense.

    This is invalidating multiple areas of sexuality, along with a handful of disorders. Im demisexual and have light aspergers (along with a couple other things), so when I happen to be more into the connection and actual age of an individual because they have to do with overall story and personality I express it with how I have figured out how to draw, which was by reading things like Calvin and Hobbes and Skottie Young comics. I am not attracted to physical appearance in any way since what I like is how well they can be responsible and their overall character as a person. ^w^ I am sorry that you feel this way, so perhaps you should just not click on what feels like my style of art.

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  • nicetryno8 said:
    Besides, like any sane person, I don’t support positivism in pedophilia. That coupled with the fact you consider pedophilia “trivial” means you’ve proven my point for me. I’ve nothing more to add….

    Sane people dont have to state it multiple times, hun. And youre trying to argue by attempting to only affirm the consequent here, which is claiming its artstyle that you see personally to be as something is exactly what it is. Its heavily begging the question. Ive already given empirical evidence here. This claim is very incorrect, so Im very confused as to what is going on here.

    Perhaps take a logical reasoning course? Or something that that can help you feel in more control of your emotions? It feels like youre just enjoying the negative attention for the rush. I dont know what to do here.

    And now youve made 4 more accounts? Why? I am truly flummoxed here.

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  • dumderg said:
    Thank you!! A simplistic comic style has been working wonderfully with these animated pages, and animations in general come to that! I am highly anticipating doing more! Nothing makes me happier than drawing happy fluffy things

    You're welcome! It looks great, honestly ^^

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  • To the guy argueing this should be tagged cub because of WHAT THEY SEE:

    1. So if it's tag what you see, I urge you to take a look at the second panel... That's an awfully long d*ck for an underage character don't you think?
    If you actually thought cubs have reproductive organs half their body size, then I've got some news for you buddy....

    2. If the artist themselves states that, what you're tagging is not what they drew, then it isn't up for YOUR INTERPRETATION if that is true or not.
    If however that is what the majority interprets it as, you can tag it that way. That is what the tags are for.
    Don't use tags to force your personal beliefs on others, or you will keep getting banned (rightfully so)

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  • nicetryno8 said:
    I made the accs WAY before any of this.

    Besides, like any sane person, I don’t support positivism in pedophilia. That coupled with the fact you consider pedophilia “trivial” means you’ve proven my point for me. I’ve nothing more to add….

    Other than try not to post without adding the appropriate tags next time.

    Regardless of how many accounts you've made and when you did, pretty sure it's against the rules to use multiple accounts to purposely dislike, spam, etc on posts.
    And it seems like someone has already dealt with you thankfully because you're ban evading. So good job on you for being blatantly obvious with what you're doing :)
    I would also like to point out that it's probably your fault for getting the tags locked to not allow the young tags. So in the end, you got destroyed.= in more ways than one.

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  • Tagwhatyouseeuhoh said:

    mangrovefox said:Anyway, I'm far too stubborn to let this go and I will continue to argue it to the very end so before my account gets possibly striked or perma banned by the staff here I would like to say again for anyone that sees this at any point in the future. The artist of this piece has explicitly stated that he will never knowingly draw NSFW artwork depicting characters under the age of 18 so no matter what the tags on the e621 post say, the characters will always be 18 or above.

    Artist quote means jack, there was some random comic involving a bird a couple years back, there was no dick visible but the author wanted it to be clear it was gay so they wrote “THIS IS GAY, MALE/MALE, DICK BIRD” (XD) in the MARGINS of the comic, but tag what you see and it was admin locked to ambiguous. I found that whole situation with the bird and the author comments hilarious but yeah, author note doesn’t matter and that clearly looks like someone not part of the 18 gang

    ah yes, admins who are not the artist locked tags to cub even though the artist said it wasn't, must be cub because admins (who are not the artist) definitely know more about the art than the artist (who made it)

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  • Curveballbitchlmao said:

    mangrovefox said:I've removed the young and age difference tags from this post, I know the artist and each character pictured in this image personally and I know that each character is 26-27 years of age. It's a Banded Linsang and 2 Wolves so of course one of the characters is gonna be a lot smaller, small does not equal cub and the artist has already stated in the comments above that he will never draw cub.

    That’s great and all but rules are tag what you see. Cub wasn’t tagged, only young, which is very obvious here. Even if the characters are XYZ old the way they’re drawn is not what an adult would look like, keyword look. Tag, what you see.

    have you ever seen a cat as big as a wolf? or a wolf as small as a cat? exactly, sit the fuck down

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  • That smile in the 2nd panel is so "haha my D's bigger then both of yours, I hope you two can get bigger then that!"

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  • dumderg said:
    Heck no. I would never ever draw that. Theyre just a small cat. I believe the character is 25-26 ish years old. And also apparently older than the wolf.

    Technically- young and cub are 2 different things, one is appearence/body type, one is age, so it could be tagged as that and then adult(lore) be added

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