BDSM Bassel

Snowballs for breakfast

HolyShit glad I caught this on time

Bassel is just the kind of person Amon needs, I feel. Not berating him, if anything, telling him it's more than ok so long as he's ok with it himself. Bassel is the kind of person everyone needs.

versperus said:
BDSM Bassel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuXvTQGmu0&ab_channel=XMusic

This is where i have to disagree with bassel, he's comparing apples to oranges here. BDSM and incest, are kinda worlds apart.

yeedfyc said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuXvTQGmu0&ab_channel=XMusic

I thought you were about to "every minute in africa" meme on me

octaviauwu said:
In the context we know, sure, but bassel has no clue amon has fucked his own mother before

https://e621.net/posts/3103965?pool_id=26827

Seems like a false equivalency considering one of those fetishes is generally illegal irl, but... Yeah, fiction. Whatever.

benjiboyo said:
This is where i have to disagree with bassel, he's comparing apples to oranges here. BDSM and incest, are kinda worlds apart.

That is the funny thing about a comic that highlights two both objective sides of "is incest good or bad" , people in the comments will also have objective opinions. Why is incest any different to bdsm? They are both just fetishes, just because people are just more accepting of one thing and less accepting of another thing does not make them different. The goal is the same, to have fun and bring pleasure to one another. Also apples and oranges are very similar. They are both fruit. And they both fulfill a nutritional need, that saying in itself is stupid. Don't say "it's like comparing apples and oranges" instead say "it's like comparing apples and a tesla model 3"

fireflash260 said:
That is the funny thing about a comic that highlights two both objective sides of "is incest good or bad" , people in the comments will also have objective opinions. Why is incest any different to bdsm? They are both just fetishes, just because people are just more accepting of one thing and less accepting of another thing does not make them different. The goal is the same, to have fun and bring pleasure to one another. Also apples and oranges are very similar. They are both fruit. And they both fulfill a nutritional need, that saying in itself is stupid. Don't say "it's like comparing apples and oranges" instead say "it's like comparing apples and a tesla model 3"

I mean, there is some actual issue with one And no apples and oranges aren't similar outside of being from trees.

lurkmore said:
Seems like a false equivalency considering one of those fetishes is generally illegal irl, but... Yeah, fiction. Whatever.

The reason Incest actually has laws on the books isn't due to the whole recessive genetics thing like many would believe. You can actually thank the Church for that. Tell me, if a case of Incest was between two, consenting, adult Siblings where at least one was, or was made infertile, would it still be wrong?

At this point, the characters in this comic have become my comfort characters.

I don't know how to feel about that.

Is this the last page for the chapter? I don’t see the end.

beefchungus said:
Is this the last page for the chapter? I don’t see the end.

Don't worry there's more

Sigh Reptiles...
You gotta love them.

fireflash260 said:
They are both fruit. And they both fulfill a nutritional need, that saying in itself is stupid. Don't say "it's like comparing apples and oranges" instead say "it's like comparing apples and a tesla model 3"

Ok, calm down ghiaccio.

As for the other point, i'm not sure if you mean subjective or not. But imo, the negatives of incest is just far too obvious in comparison to bdsm, i mean, bdsm invented the safe word for a reason. I don't need to go indepth on why incest isn't a good thing irl right? Yes, stories that explore it is interesting, that's why i like this site and fandom, you get to explore taboo subjects that makes you think, but i can't look away when i disagree with something so hard.

That last bit kinda went abit rambly...

noveltwin said:
The reason Incest actually has laws on the books isn't due to the whole recessive genetics thing like many would believe. You can actually thank the Church for that. Tell me, if a case of Incest was between two, consenting, adult Siblings where at least one was, or was made infertile, would it still be wrong?

Can you cite a source for that claim? It's somewhat contradicted by all those divinely ordained and very inbred monarchs who were so sure they needed to protect the purity of their line. Either way: no, there isn't any inherent harm in your example, but it's also so impossibly idealised that it's useless for building broadly applicable laws on. The reproductive and psychosocial benefits of those laws, now backed by contemporary understanding, are not invalidated by the flawed logic that originated them.

noveltwin said:
The reason Incest actually has laws on the books isn't due to the whole recessive genetics thing like many would believe. You can actually thank the Church for that. Tell me, if a case of Incest was between two, consenting, adult Siblings where at least one was, or was made infertile, would it still be wrong?

I mean that's provably wrong given that many cultures across the world had cultural taboos against incest. It's one of the few common traits of humanity that surprisingly has arisen in nearly all cultures we could study in some fashion.

zregs said:
I mean that's provably wrong given that many cultures across the world had cultural taboos against incest. It's one of the few common traits of humanity that surprisingly has arisen in nearly all cultures we could study in some fashion.

I think there is consens here that preventing incest has genetic benefits for a society.
That alone might have phased out any societies / factions that allowed for incest on a larger scale.

I am not sure if I subscribe to the notion that humans have a reliable 'feel' for morality.
There was (and still is) slavery, after all.

An aversion towards incest might have enough reliably negative genetic impact that it is feasible that we, as a species would have evolved an instinctive (= genetically based) dislike for it by now..
..if we did not such a high powered sex drive. Heat might seem intensive, but being sexually active all year around seems to be more on the nose.

friskd said:

Don't worry there's more

ok, was gonna say it was weird ending so abruptly

pustefix said:
I think there is consens here that preventing incest has genetic benefits for a society.
That alone might have phased out any societies / factions that allowed for incest on a larger scale.

I am not sure if I subscribe to the notion that humans have a reliable 'feel' for morality.
There was (and still is) slavery, after all.

An aversion towards incest might have enough reliably negative genetic impact that it is feasible that we, as a species would have evolved an instinctive (= genetically based) dislike for it by now..
..if we did not such a high powered sex drive. Heat might seem intensive, but being sexually active all year around seems to be more on the nose.

I like how the one major piece of evidence most people use in the case of Incest is "genetic impact". Its like when Incest is concerned Pregnancy is inevitable. Contraception, vasectomy etc exist but are never brought up.

I also don't believe we have some sixth sense kind of perception of our genetic family. You can't sense genes, we only know of our family because we live with them since birth, we are told every day they are family. Then again at the same time there have been cases of siblings separated at birth and reunited as Adults only to have immediate attraction. Maybe they're just drawn to familiar physical traits? Why else are there claims some people look for partners that resemble their parents?

Some things are taboo because they are immoral, some things are taboo because most people are put off by them, some things are taboo because we've been taught they are and never questioned it.

Incest is just taboo enough, unpopular enough and morally grey enough (if between relatives with an uneven power dynamic or age gap) that there just aren't many people willing to stand for it, and therefore most people never actually stop to ask themselves why they even care.

noveltwin said:
I like how the one major piece of evidence most people use in the case of Incest is "genetic impact". Its like when Incest is concerned Pregnancy is inevitable. Contraception, vasectomy etc exist but are never brought up.

I also don't believe we have some sixth sense kind of perception of our genetic family. You can't sense genes, we only know of our family because we live with them since birth, we are told every day they are family. Then again at the same time there have been cases of siblings separated at birth and reunited as Adults only to have immediate attraction. Maybe they're just drawn to familiar physical traits? Why else are there claims some people look for partners that resemble their parents?

This is off the top of my head, but in the case of family members developing attraction when separated at birth I remember reading about a phenomena that occurs with people when growing up in adolescence around the same family members. This phenomena makes changes to the mind on what that adolescent should and shouldn't be attracted to, and people that they grow up with and consider as "family" are usually placed as "unattractive" in their minds. I think it's a holdover from our primitive ancestry where it's biologically encouraged to not devolve into generational inbreeding cause bad genetics getting passed down repeatedly. Naturally, as we became more advanced this seeped into our customs and laws, deeming it "immoral."

I believe this is why the story of meeting the "hot cousin/step-sibling/*insert distant relative here*" trope is common; since most distant relatives are usually only met every now and then in the family, the young mind doesn't fully place them as "family," even if the youth consciously knows this. On top of that, distant relatives usually have a similar chance of hereditary defects as making a baby with a stranger (maybe a tiny bit higher than some rando, but eh).

There's also the ultimate nail in the coffin for incest which is the potential for grooming. Sure, once someone reaches (18/21/whatever adult age is in your country) they should be allowed to pick and choose their partner for whatever kinky and degenerate acts you can think up, however if a mother/father/older sibling groomed the youth in their developing years an argument could be made that they never had a choice in the first place; that their attraction towards their relative is based on gas lighting and influence in their most vulnerable years. Legalizing incest with this in mind could lead to a slippery slope where children get groomed to be the "ideal husbando/waifu" for a relative and it would never be reported. Yes, one could make it so incest is legal but child abuse isn't, however even in the current time sexual abuse is a complex subject where some people are wrongfully accused for innocent acts while others didn't even realize they were being abused at all.

All in all, I LIKE incest a lot in porn, I think it's hot as hell and will continue to happily fap to it. However, we all have to remember that fantasy and reality are wholly separate places, and incest is such a complex, morally grey area that to say it's fine because adults who consent should just do whatever in privacy would be overlooking millennia of WHY this was taboo and outlawed in the first place. Nations don't just collectively decide a law like this for the fuck of it (well... most of the time), there is a long history with incest and the eternal debate of if it's right or wrong.

Also... remember that the tastes of people here are usually more extreme than the average person, so it's not a great metric to measure the "morality" of it all here. I think the average joe/jane views incest as icky and most probably don't see their family in that way (admittedly I had strong feelings for my mom in my youth, but I know I'm far from normal).

BUT FUCK IT I'M STILL GONNA CRANK IT TO FURRY INCEST AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE.

I find it funny to see long posts about the implications of certain topics on pictures of anthropomorphic characters doing the nasty.

giorno_giowovanna said:
I find it funny to see long posts about the implications of certain topics on pictures of anthropomorphic characters doing the nasty.

Some people feel compelled to let others know that despite their sexual preferences they're ready to grab the rope and torches should a call go out to "Put the fucking pervs against the wall and shoot em dead!"

You can always depend on people to throw others under the bus in the hopes of improving their standing. Boots on the shoulders of drowning men and all that.

octaviauwu said:
In the context we know, sure, but bassel has no clue amon has fucked his own mother before

I don't get it. I really don't get it. I see it on every comic, lewd or not. People missing things that are literally explained or directly shown. There are still people saying stuff like "We still don't know who sent Monique the video." It was literally shown in the comic that she recorded them herself. It was then the literal beginning of the next chapter where she masturbated to it after she felt bad that she, in her own words, violated their privacy. Then she admitted to Kyra that she snuck back after she left and recorded them. How, HOW can someone miss all of that?

And here, Bassel knows because Amon told him. It's literally in the dialogue. That's why Basel brought Monique up to begin with. Because he knew Amon had already fucked Kyra, so he was messing with him about his other parent.

spyke-097 said:
Bassel is just the kind of person Amon needs, I feel. Not berating him, if anything, telling him it's more than ok so long as he's ok with it himself. Bassel is the kind of person everyone needs.

One thing my IRL friends could count on is that I am basically there Bassel

Makes it even easier for me to be such a friend because my kink list is the e621 tag list minus gore and death those 2 are to much for me (thank you blacklist you're a life-saver)

Ah yes, snowballing, obviously on the same level of kink as doin your mom.

I wish this comic would stop clumsily trying to justify momcest and just get on with it. It's a fantasy world, it's all fiction, who cares. In case the anthro animals didn't make it obvious, the background lore tells us we're in a world completely different from our own, we don't need to apply real life morals or logic to it. Thicc snek mommy banging her twink snek son is hot, end of story.

Snowballing my beloved!

Then what was the point of the condom????

papyruseaterofspaget said:
Then what was the point of the condom????

You don't normally get pregnant from swallowing cum, for one.

octaviauwu said:
In the context we know, sure, but bassel has no clue amon has fucked his own mother before

Bro people can’t handle the truth

noveltwin said:
The reason Incest actually has laws on the books isn't due to the whole recessive genetics thing like many would believe. You can actually thank the Church for that. Tell me, if a case of Incest was between two, consenting, adult Siblings where at least one was, or was made infertile, would it still be wrong?

no, even if they remained fertile, people are different what works for some, isn't for every one.
and as long as the two people are happy that's all that matters.
be who and what you are, not what someone thinks you should be.

versperus said:
BDSM Bassel

The B stands for Bassel

sapphire_snowflake said:
The B stands for Bassel

bassel does submission maneuvers

There is no point for shaming yourself for your kinks... So it is alright that I'm pretending like I'm Grandpa Isshin and my brother is Soul of Cinder and we slash each other 'till our hands/fingers got bloody/mudy from slashing each other because our hands is only unprotected part of body and our weapons don't have a tsuba? Yaay :3

ghull said:
Bro people can’t handle the truth

But that's not the truth tho

benjiboyo said:
This is where i have to disagree with bassel, he's comparing apples to oranges here. BDSM and incest, are kinda worlds apart.

That's not really the point of the comparison, it's moreso just saying to not be ashamed of your kinks. I mean in the end, as long as everyone gives full consent, what does it matter?

jaydergie said:
That's not really the point of the comparison, it's moreso just saying to not be ashamed of your kinks. I mean in the end, as long as everyone gives full consent, what does it matter?

It's still apples to oranges to me, if it isn't for some others, fine, not my problem.

im also into that stuff

Bassel became my favorite character with that "Everyone's got they're own kinks" line

(I never kink shame, if anything I'll just wonder why someone would be interested in a kink that I don't understand)

Not gonna comment on the whole morality of incest irl and all, but seeing this page and then seeing to other incest characters that atrolux has... It kinda rubs me the wrong way, ngl

himero5 said:
Not gonna comment on the whole morality of incest irl and all, but seeing this page and then seeing to other incest characters that atrolux has... It kinda rubs me the wrong way, ngl

In what regard? Cheri just seems like a "for fun" series just having sex happen. While it technically has continuity because she has kids who show up in future pics it's not trying to tell a story like "Shedding inhibitions" is.

I see. Bassel is trans. Not andromorph necessarily. If you look closely, you will see curved scars right below his nipples in some shots. Indicating that he used to have boobs.

Holy shit every new page never fails to excite and somehow shellshock me