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  • Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

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  • 7wackatamoy said:
    That's very medically dry and not at all how normal humans think about it.
    What matters is that what they just did is how it all begins!

    "Normal humans"? If you define ignorance as "normal", then sure.

    People who know how given stuff work don't "switch off" the knowledge when thinking about that something, you know.

    You'd be surprised how "medically" couples that are unsuccessfully trying for a baby for some time think.

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  • redrapture said:
    I cringe whenever the word 'actually' is used to start a post responding to a picture and damn if you didn't deliver. This is porn, not a biology class. Save your explanations for someone who cares.

    And you can do exactly the same with that little opinion of yours there.

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    Seen a pregnancy test show positive in 3 days albeit barely. The mother herself is an organism, an organism is defined as a living organic life form so I'm confused as to your meaning by that.

    It can take according to scientific studies between 30 minutes and a day for the sperm and embryo to combine uterine attachment happens within 24 hours of that. From there you have the hormone processes which it takes a week on average for pregnancy hormones to be detectable to a pregnancy test. which is where alot of the confusion about how fast a pregnancy actually occurs tends to come from.

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    "Normal humans"? If you define ignorance as "normal", then sure.

    People who know how given stuff work don't "switch off" the knowledge when thinking about that something, you know.

    You'd be surprised how "medically" couples that are unsuccessfully trying for a baby for some time think.

    However to "knock up", as I can find on the internet, is to make pregnant, and pregnant means The period from conception to birth. and conception is a bit roundabout with it's definition but essentially says the same thing as pregnancy

    1a(1) : the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both
    (2) : embryo, fetus
    

    . Thus this picture's use of it's words is entirely within the proper usage.

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  • exodus_derg said:
    Seen a pregnancy test show positive in 3 days albeit barely. The mother herself is an organism, an organism is defined as a living organic life form so I'm confused as to your meaning by that.

    It can take according to scientific studies between 30 minutes and a day for the sperm and embryo to combine uterine attachment happens within 24 hours of that. From there you have the hormone processes which it takes a week on average for pregnancy hormones to be detectable to a pregnancy test. which is where alot of the confusion about how fast a pregnancy actually occurs tends to come from.

    "Up to" means it can take as long, but it can also be earlier. Like with all natural phenomena, there's probably a gauss curve here. All in all, it's nowhere as fast as the cumshot leaving the guy's penis. And we should not mistake the time it takes for sperm to get through Fallopian tubes and complete the process of fertilization with the time hormonal levels become elevated enough for test to detect. I was talking about the first one. Sperms stay viable for roughly 5 days in woman's body, so sometimes there can be a few days delay between the sex and the ovulation occurring, and it will still end up in pregnancy.

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  • poodlewolfy123 said:
    However to "knock up", as I can find on the internet, is to make pregnant, and pregnant means The period from conception to birth. and conception is a bit roundabout with it's definition but essentially says the same thing as pregnancy

    1a(1) : the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both
    (2) : embryo, fetus
    

    . Thus this picture's use of it's words is entirely within the proper usage.

    I'm not discussing whether informal terminology used here was correct, I simply provide information to offset a common misconception about how fast those things take place.
    However, the macro inside-view illustration would suggest that fertilization happens in close proximity to ejaculation, which is simply not true.

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  • vealck2 said:
    However, the macro inside-view illustration would suggest that fertilization happens in close proximity to ejaculation, which is simply not true.

    There is no clearly defined timeframe in the picture, so this could be taking place at virtually any time. You could infer that it is at the moment of ejaculation because it appears as though ejaculate is coming from the tip of the penis, but I could just as easily argue that with the bulbus glandis, or "knot", being a part of their anatomy that it could just as easily be that the penis is locked in the vagina and the semen is pooling around the penis and that the sperm have reached the eggs already. Then you have to consider that if the male's sexual behavior is anything like that of a canine that the average volume of dog ejaculate ranges anywhere from 1 to 30 mL (however even the article admits it can go far higher) and dog copulation can take anywhere from ten minutes to an hour and it becomes entirely reasonable that this picture is 100% accurate.

    Also conception being, in part, "the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both" and the definition of "fertilization" being in human reproduction, the process by which the male's sperm unites with the female's oocyte it is still well within the boundaries of possibility that the picture's depiction is accurate.

    Finally with the previous definition of "fertilization" in mind, that means that even your initial premise is flawed. Because

    vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex.

    actually pregnancy starts the moment fertilization occurs, which is the moment a sperm meets an egg.

    And if all of that wasn't enough, your original post was still incorrect because

    vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    by definition is wrong. Because pregnant means the period from conception to birth. and conception means the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both alternatively meaning an embryo and an embryo is a new organism in the earliest stage of development. In humans this is defined as the developing organism from the fourth day after fertilization to the end of the eighth week..

    Q.E.D. You're wrong.

    Keep in mind, ignorance is not "normal" and people who know how given stuff work don't "switch off" the knowledge when thinking about that something.

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    He has the fastest sperm this side of the Mississippi

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  • poodlewolfy123 said:
    There is no clearly defined timeframe in the picture, so this could be taking place at virtually any time. You could infer that it is at the moment of ejaculation because it appears as though ejaculate is coming from the tip of the penis, but I could just as easily argue that with the bulbus glandis, or "knot", being a part of their anatomy that it could just as easily be that the penis is locked in the vagina and the semen is pooling around the penis and that the sperm have reached the eggs already. Then you have to consider that if the male's sexual behavior is anything like that of a canine that the average volume of dog ejaculate ranges anywhere from 1 to 30 mL (however even the article admits it can go far higher) and dog copulation can take anywhere from ten minutes to an hour and it becomes entirely reasonable that this picture is 100% accurate.

    Also conception being, in part, "the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both" and the definition of "fertilization" being in human reproduction, the process by which the male's sperm unites with the female's oocyte it is still well within the boundaries of possibility that the picture's depiction is accurate.

    Finally with the previous definition of "fertilization" in mind, that means that even your initial premise is flawed. Because
    actually pregnancy starts the moment fertilization occurs, which is the moment a sperm meets an egg.

    And if all of that wasn't enough, your original post was still incorrect because
    by definition is wrong. Because pregnant means the period from conception to birth. and conception means the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both alternatively meaning an embryo and an embryo is a new organism in the earliest stage of development. In humans this is defined as the developing organism from the fourth day after fertilization to the end of the eighth week..

    Q.E.D. You're wrong.

    Keep in mind, ignorance is not "normal" and people who know how given stuff work don't "switch off" the knowledge when thinking about that something.

    Literally nothing you wrote is in direct contradiction to what I wrote before.

    I applaud your conviction in hair-splitting and dog jizz knowledge, but you purposely chose the very specific conceptual scope of the words used by me to achieve your goal of proving me wrong. It's a form of an elaborate linguistic strawman.

    For example, let's get one of the terms used under a scope. Sure, "fertilization" can be used to describe the whole process along with sex or just the moment of joining the sperm and the egg. Now, mind that both natural sex and invitro can be called "fertilization". That means the parts that differ those two cases are incidental and are not the part of the core notion. What remains is the common, non-reducible element, namely, forming the zygote. That is how I used the term and you purposely chose the wider definition to engage in intellectual dick-measuring.

    Everyone has a hobby, I guess, and if you get off from this, well, good for you, but other than that you accomplished nothing. I will not engage in further discussion because dismantling your word games is as pointless as it's laborious.

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    since before making this account I was surprised to come here for porn and end up with new knowledge

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    We come for the furry porn not facts
    I petition to let us fall in peace

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  • vealck2 said:
    Actually, pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex. It takes up to 6 days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg.

    Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus.

    And even then there's slightly above 50% chance that the zygote will have chromosomal aberrations and will be discarded by mother's organism.

    The more you know.

    It is true, but I decided to ignore it!

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  • Same. Why people can be so....ugh. Why have a argument over pregnancy, tests, semen, etc... I mean why can't people just drop it before writing a news column worth of crap. I mean leave pregnancy to the portion of the people that CAN get pregnant and have actually gone through it. They know about it more than I and most other people here.

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