https://youtu.be/rNtiEcT9W6M?t=90

isn't this angrylittlerodent ?

midnightcloak said:
isn't this angrylittlerodent ?

definitely
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nazi pomy-

Ayo hol up thats a Mfin S W A S T I K A cutie mark?

netrom2017 said:
Does not automatically have to mean Nazis. The swastika was a thing long before the Nazis stole it.

In this case it does not. This is Aryanne, note the blonde hair and blue eyes.
The problem with nazies is that some of their elements were really good, like fashion, or speeches... they were just about horrible things and worn by some really bad people. :(

netrom2017 said:
You people can point that out without being hostile you know. I did simply state a very simple fact about the swastika after all.

As i was saying....

netrom2017 said:
Does not automatically have to mean Nazis. The swastika was a thing long before the Nazis stole it.

Ah right, the blonde haired, blue eyes pony with a swastika in 2022 definitely wants to reference Romans or Hinduism. You need to learn what Occam's Razor is.

palpetinus said:
Ah right, the blonde haired, blue eyes pony with a swastika in 2022 definitely wants to reference Romans or Hinduism. You need to learn what Occam's Razor is.

Automatically assuming the worst because of superficial stuff is not a good thing you know. You are basically saying that a blonde, blue eyed person cant have an interest in the many other meanings a swastika has.

Let us see how this... Panzers out?

netrom2017 said:
Actually, the mere fact that she is having sex with a black person blows a hole right through the nazi part.

no, not really. Nothing stops supremacist from using "tools" to her liking.

netrom2017 said:
Automatically assuming the worst because of superficial stuff is not a good thing you know. You are basically saying that a blonde, blue eyed person cant have an interest in the many other meanings a swastika has.

It was a character literally made as a ponyfication of a generic Nazi almost a decade ago am your brain no work?

nforce said:
no, not really. Nothing stops supremacist from using "tools" to her liking.

Would you have sex with someone you have a prejudice against? I doubt that. As such it already blows a hole in the Nazi part. But look at the Hinduism meaning of a swastika for example: peace, harmony and wellbeing. Here we have a character that has inspiration from Equestria and My Little Pony that has a Cutie Mark in the form of a bright pink heart, which basically represent the same thing. And said heart happens to contain a swastika. That does not give the vibe of a nazi to me. More like the exact opposite. She may be depicted as a full blown nazi in some other pieces, but it sure is not the impression here.

onioni said:
It was a character literally made as a ponyfication of a generic Nazi almost a decade ago am your brain no work?

You realize its an artwork right? She can be a nazi in one but not in another. If she was supposed to be a generic nazi then the creator failed a bit.

doobie_scooby_doo said:
Let us see how this... Panzers out?

Oho, and they say Germans can't be funny!

Funfact about this character. Whomever made her had her lore be a literal pony nazi, with her father being ADOLF HOOFLER and that she's a führer too. Let that sink in.

cumcum said:
Funfact about this character. Whomever made her had her lore be a literal pony nazi, with her father being ADOLF HOOFLER and that she's a führer too. Let that sink in.

Another fun fact: fiction can be made into anything the artist want. Even Elsa and Anna from Frozen has been depicted as nazis. Let that sink in.

clean

netrom2017 said:
Would you have sex with someone you have a prejudice against? I doubt that. As such it already blows a hole in the Nazi part. But look at the Hinduism meaning of a swastika for example: peace, harmony and wellbeing. Here we have a character that has inspiration from Equestria and My Little Pony that has a Cutie Mark in the form of a bright pink heart, which basically represent the same thing. And said heart happens to contain a swastika. That does not give the vibe of a nazi to me. More like the exact opposite. She may be depicted as a full blown nazi in some other pieces, but it sure is not the impression here.

Right....apparently there is quite a few immature and ignorant people here.
1. My initial point was that even though something contains a swastika, it does not automatically have to do with nazis. Which is a simple fact as the swastika has been used for centuries before nazis were even a thing.
2. This character may originally be intended to be a "generic" nazi, however she could aslo easily represent the exact opposite, for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
3. You people seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how art works. It is open for interpretation. An artist can make it whatever they want and the viewer can have different views. If Elsa and Anna of all people can be depicted as nazis, this character can be seen as not being one.

Literally nothing i see here in this particular piece makes me think of a nazi. However you people automatically go: blonde + swastika = nazi. Which is a very immature and shallow way of thinking.

The existence of this character is pure fucking cringe.

jfrankparnell said:
Dude, you want to be a Nazi apologist, go somewhere else. And definitely don’t talk down to people when you are going a spew a lot of illogical drivel.

Quite literally nothing they said was nazi apologizing. They only talked about the history of the swastika and artistic liberties.

cumcum said:
Ayo hol up thats a Mfin S W A S T I K A cutie mark?

Who cares? It's porn of a horse you don't have to act morally superior to everyone on a porn comment section.

jfrankparnell said:
Dude, you want to be a Nazi apologist, go somewhere else. And definitely don’t talk down to people when you are going a spew a lot of illogical drivel.

I am as far away from a nazi apologist as one can get. The more videogames that let me drown nazis in their own piss the better , to put it one way. If you dont want me to talk down on you then at the very least take the time to properly read my comments instead of making yourself look like a clown.

oscar_of_astora said:
The existence of this character is pure fucking cringe.

If we see her as a nazi, yes. If we dont, its not.

netrom2017 said:
Actually, the mere fact that she is having sex with a black person blows a hole right through the nazi part.

oooh. So now you have a problem with black on blonde? it's people like you sir.

kakkarot said:
oooh. So now you have a problem with black on blonde? it's people like you sir.

Clearly you have been paying attention.....My point was that a nazi, an extremely racist person, would not have sex with a black person. Hence, why i dont consider her to be depicted as a nazi in this particular piece. However, considering the negative remarks on your account, i am guessing that any form of logic will fall on deaf ears.

cumcum said:
Funfact about this character. Whomever made her had her lore be a literal pony nazi, with her father being ADOLF HOOFLER and that she's a führer too. Let that sink in.

Funfact: The character was adopted by the community and used as the token "shock character", mostly because some people can't handle representations of negative concepts or histories. The only people that have actively attributed the character to being a "literal nazi", after so many years, have been at least one literal nazi that created significant community drama to hide his own past and a host of people that can't separate representation from glorification. In other news, Germany decriminalized non-glorification Nazi representation in art at least 4 years ago.

Let that sink in.

The nazi pony is indeed a nazi. What a big surprise.

Nothing's preventing a nazi from being a hypocrite. Kind of par for the course, really.
Nothing's preventing an artist from depicting something that's unlikely to happen in real life.

But in all seriousness, stop feeding the troll.

netrom2017 said:
Right....apparently there is quite a few immature and ignorant people here.
1. My initial point was that even though something contains a swastika, it does not automatically have to do with nazis. Which is a simple fact as the swastika has been used for centuries before nazis were even a thing.
2. This character may originally be intended to be a "generic" nazi, however she could aslo easily represent the exact opposite, for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
3. You people seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how art works. It is open for interpretation. An artist can make it whatever they want and the viewer can have different views. If Elsa and Anna of all people can be depicted as nazis, this character can be seen as not being one.

Literally nothing i see here in this particular piece makes me think of a nazi. However you people automatically go: blonde + swastika = nazi. Which is a very immature and shallow way of thinking.

1. It is very uncommon for a swastika to appear in modern day culture outside of the context of nazis. In fact, outside of one old video game and very old designs in archetecture and art, I have never once seen a swastika used in that original context. That this character is intended as a nazi caricature makes this point ridiculous. the symbol doesn't necessarily represent nazi ideals, but in this instance it absolutely does.
2. This character is most often used to make jokes about nazi's. Some fan fiction has her as a over exaggerated german accented ubermare. As she gained traction as a character, porn was made. I don't really think the artist really is invested in all this, but unless they went out of their way to explain why their 4 legged aryan pony stereotype with a established nazi symbol on her hips is NOT exactly whta it looks like, than I think it's a safe assumption that she is, in fact, a 'generic' nazi pony.
3. Art is subjective, user interpretation is personalized. This does not mean the nazi pony is not a nazi pony. Elsa and Anna would need a bunch of artistic intercessions before they could be protrayed as nazis. Aryanne the nazi pony has literally no character other than: is a nazi, is a pony. She CAN be seen as not a nazi, like you said, but without any signs indicating that, it makes more sense to assume that she is being depicted as one.

Anyway, you are are right about all the subjective interpretation stuff, but just because you can squint your eyes at an orange and make it look like an apple, doesn't mean it's an apple tree.

netrom2017 said:
Does not automatically have to mean Nazis. The swastika was a thing long before the Nazis stole it.

Yes but the Native American and ancient symbols are different. The Nazi swastika is diagonal.

onascaleofdebauchery said:
1. It is very uncommon for a swastika to appear in modern day culture outside of the context of nazis. In fact, outside of one old video game and very old designs in archetecture and art, I have never once seen a swastika used in that original context. That this character is intended as a nazi caricature makes this point ridiculous. the symbol doesn't necessarily represent nazi ideals, but in this instance it absolutely does.

this statement is factually wrong, if you were to look at euro-asia, consider the west to see the nazi part and the east to see the good luck symbol. (Minus Russia as they are Technically a western country that's mostly in the East) the farther west you go from about Iran the more people will see it for what it is rather then the association with Nazi Germany.

onascaleofdebauchery said:
1. It is very uncommon for a swastika to appear in modern day culture outside of the context of nazis. In fact, outside of one old video game and very old designs in archetecture and art, I have never once seen a swastika used in that original context. That this character is intended as a nazi caricature makes this point ridiculous. the symbol doesn't necessarily represent nazi ideals, but in this instance it absolutely does.
2. This character is most often used to make jokes about nazi's. Some fan fiction has her as a over exaggerated german accented ubermare. As she gained traction as a character, porn was made. I don't really think the artist really is invested in all this, but unless they went out of their way to explain why their 4 legged aryan pony stereotype with a established nazi symbol on her hips is NOT exactly whta it looks like, than I think it's a safe assumption that she is, in fact, a 'generic' nazi pony.
3. Art is subjective, user interpretation is personalized. This does not mean the nazi pony is not a nazi pony. Elsa and Anna would need a bunch of artistic intercessions before they could be protrayed as nazis. Aryanne the nazi pony has literally no character other than: is a nazi, is a pony. She CAN be seen as not a nazi, like you said, but without any signs indicating that, it makes more sense to assume that she is being depicted as one.

Anyway, you are are right about all the subjective interpretation stuff, but just because you can squint your eyes at an orange and make it look like an apple, doesn't mean it's an apple tree.

The swastika has been around for millennia, while the nazi connection has been around for barely a hundred years. And the cultures that use the swastika in others contexts are still around in modern society. So i think saying its "uncommon" is a bit of a stretch.

And i really do not need to squint in order to not see a nazi in this piece. I genuinely do not see one as nothing in this animation makes me think of a nazi. Which is why i consider her as a failure as a "generic nazi" if that is what the creator went for. A generic design makes you automatically think of that very thing without a shadow of a doubt in your mind. Applejack is a great example of this. You see her, and you think of a country girl and farming etc. and you are just waiting for her to say "howdy". But this character right here? If i had any skill in drawing, i could have her represent the exact opposite of a nazi and i would not need to make any changes to her design whatsoever. There are some artwork here of her that makes me go " yep, that is a nazi" , but in those she is wearing a full blown nazi uniform. If a "generic design" could represent a lot things and needs something extra to confirm what its MEANT to represent.....that is not a good design.

bitwolfy said:
The nazi pony is indeed a nazi. What a big surprise.

Nothing's preventing a nazi from being a hypocrite. Kind of par for the course, really.
Nothing's preventing an artist from depicting something that's unlikely to happen in real life.

But in all seriousness, stop feeding the troll.

I *really* hope you dont mean me. If having a differing view on a peice of art which can be backed with logic makes me a troll, then i have some serious concerns.

triz said:
Yes but the Native American and ancient symbols are different. The Nazi swastika is diagonal.

The japanese "Manji" is also sometimes depicted diagonally.

netrom2017 said:
I *really* hope you dont mean me. If having a differing view on a peice of art which can be backed with logic makes me a troll, then i have some serious concerns.

I do mean you.
Not because of your alternate interpretation of a piece of art, but because pretty much all you do on the site is get into protracted arguments with people.

It has not crossed the line yet, as you've been relatively polite. So I have not done anything about it.
I just find this sort of behavior extremely odd.

bitwolfy said:
I do mean you.
Not because of your alternate interpretation of a piece of art, but because pretty much all you do on the site is get into protracted arguments with people.

It has not crossed the line yet, as you've been relatively polite. So I have not done anything about it.
I just find this sort of behavior extremely odd.

I was under the impression that the entire point of the comment section was to exchange opinions and discuss the artwork? Stumbling across people that can be unreasonable just happens every now and then.