yeah right, he's stroking his tail...

Bruh

I am so done with bikomation

rocket is just grooming his tail, nothing wrong here

paleontoldogist said:
yeah right, he's stroking his tail...

Maybe he's stroking something *inside* his tail? Or using his tail to stroke something? I dunno... xD

every time i see biko's bs censorship i dislike them more and more

malkers said:
shit's wild when even the e6 mod is fed up

Not really. Mods generally have a stick up their ass. Especially on E6.

It’s like there’s not even a point in coming back to see anything new cause it won’t be out until like a year later like at this point bro should just quit 😭

stoneguardian said:
Oh, I see... people don't want to wait for a release date; they just want it for free instantly. Not saying I prefer or even think this is good, but hey... guy's gotta get paid somehow. The way I see it, if he just released his stuff (especially knowing some people in this fandom) all they would get is more people clamoring for more free stuff until he was just working for nothing. Not a single person would subscribe to support more art and animations, yet most of them would get downright hostile of they didn't get more free stuff.

I know it sucks, and I wish things were how they used to be with people just posting free stuff because they enjoyed it, but I guess you can't really fault someone for trying to get people to their Patreon these days.

its more about the censorship i think

I didn't know you could blacklist a combination of tags.

Like, if you put:
bikomation censored
bikomation convenient_censorship
bikomation advertisement
You can get rid of all of this pathetic bullshit without a fear of blocking something potentially interesting.

Of course I'm not the kind of person who is gonna tell other people what to do. If you would rather keep sending the message, sure, no worries.
But I just thought I'd mention it, since I personally haven't been using a blacklist because I didn't want any collateral damage, and no one ever told me I could block a combination of tags and make it really targeted towards the exact stuff I want to block.

I hope at least someone finds this helpful.
Or at least more helpful than getting reported and called a bitch...

seppo666 said:
I didn't know you could blacklist a combination of tags.

Like, if you put:
bikomation censored
bikomation convenient_censorship
bikomation advertisement
You can get rid of all of this pathetic bullshit without a fear of blocking something potentially interesting.

Of course I'm not the kind of person who is gonna tell other people what to do. If you would rather keep sending the message, sure, no worries.
But I just thought I'd mention it, since I personally haven't been using a blacklist because I didn't want any collateral damage, and no one ever told me I could block a combination of tags and make it really targeted towards the exact stuff I want to block.

Actual props to you for teaching blacklist literacy. I honestly didn't know you could get that specific with the blacklist, and going out of your way to explain it to those who may not be in the know is leagues above handing out warnings to people upset with the animations

I do agree artists need to eat too. Hell if I can find a Patreon or something I'll pay the price. I think it's a great animation anyways and well designed.

I do agree artists need to eat too. Hell if I can find a Patreon or something I'll pay the price. I think it's a great animation anyways and well designed.

shiningwolf said:
I do agree artists need to eat too. Hell if I can find a Patreon or something I'll pay the price. I think it's a great animation anyways and well designed.

Cancel that if I can find. Need to open my eyes. Next break I'll do that

He has a bad cramp on his tail.

So Rocket's humping off against his tail and this somehow generates a vast number of downvotes. I guess their line of thinking is this is the censored version and the real one will have his dick in his hand, but it seems perfectly fine as is.

I think this is hilarious. As with many Bikomation posts, I actually like the convenient censorship. Obviously not everyone will like it, but it leaves a lot up to the imagination, and the bewildered expression on Lylla is great, in my opinion.

My issue with biko isn't his censorship or his patreon, it's how he uses these things.
I would be way more ok with all this if it weren't for the fact that these gifs are often paywalled for 6+ months at a time( last public release took 9 months). Not to mention the ones that are never released to the public.
Also he make a very big deal about making large projects with long videos, but 90% of the these are 3 gifs each with a messy alt put together to a ripped audio that doesn't fit with it.
Also in order to actually view these uncensored, you need to spend 10 dollars, and you will only get the at the end of the month via DM. (if he forgets to send and you don't call him out right away he will tell you to buy it for another 10 from his gumroad as it is very unlikely that he will dm old packs).
Also looking at some sites like https://graphtreon.com/creator/bikomation if it is correct, biko isn't struggling financially (he also has an actual job, as patreon is 'just a hobby that he hopes will take off and he can work full time on it').

poodlewolfy123 said:

malkers said:
shit's wild when even the e6 mod is fed up

Not really. Mods generally have a stick up their ass. Especially on E6.

If they're sick of us complaining maybe they should actually do something about it

dragon-tear said:
Removing downvotes on submissions would significantly reduce pointless discussions like this.
Even YT removed them. In a community as diverse as the furry one is, it's almost absurd to have visible downvotes. Can still keep a hidden counter that's used for sorting purposes.

Obviously this discussion we have right here is about monetization, and it has nothing to do with diversity.
But I'm still gonna say that every community needs to have at last SOME kind of standards about what is acceptable and what is condemnable. That's literally what community means. It's a group of like minded people with common interests.
In general, furries are exceptionally tolerant and accepting people. You can create some really fucked up shit and get acceptance and upvotes from the people of this community, do you not agree? But still, even furries have their limits, and the further you go over that limit, (if you go to the cheese grater territory for example), you simply can't expect people to just keep "not minding" your stuff. At some point they're gonna start disliking it. But at that point, you're so deep in that why would you care about dislikes anyway?

Long time here, like way before e621 first server crashes, but I'm weak with e62's inner workings... but Idk what's going on, like why does seemingly mentioning this artist get you a warning from a mod? I've seen users get warnings and bans recently from posts that, just seems a bit lame. at least by anything content wise with e621. But, idk. Do I need to start reading up on everything e621?

cinder said:
Mentioning them doesn't get you a warning.
Complaining about them when you could have just blacklisted them does.

Yeah but this kinda reeks like bullshit considering the inconsistency of actually enforcing this policy. Considering with kabier and jasonafex’s return, there was a re-ignition of just blasting the two of them that had nowhere near a strict a warning system as this post has had.

Just about every other comment on post 4049715 could have received a warning with the exact same reasoning as the people on this post…but they didn’t. Not that I care about kabier or jasonafex, but I find statements like this kinda funny when it’s just not equally enforced.

cinder said:
Thank you for being civil about this.
Yes, there is a bit of a difference here. That post was the first new upload from Jasonafex after their DNP status was lifted.
People naturally discussed that event and shared some stale drama about him and Kabier.

A few records were given out, actually, and a few comments were hidden.
Remember that just we don't have to mark comments as rulebreaking when we give records, it's entirely optional.
Either way, while things in that comment section continue to go relatively smoothly, we are letting it run its course.
If the comments do heat up, we will take further action.

On the other hand, people have been screaming about how much they hate bikomation in his posts' comment sections for months now. Or has it been years? It is honestly quite tiresome.
The staff position is the same as it has always been: this kind of content does not break site rules. BitWolfy wrote an explanation as to why here, I will not repeat that.
Anyone who does not like these kinds of posts is encouraged to use their blacklist to filter them out. Those who refuse to do so end up receiving records.

Lol. Lmao, even. Even the ai moderator has been drilled with classic e6 admin flavor of justifying certain warnings for being annoying. Which as shown here is a subjective decider that won’t be consistent with different admins unless there’s been some company policy made explicitly defending bikomation or certain artists specifically. The post I mentioned was not the first post of kabier return, unless you mean it was the first NEW artwork they’ve made that was simultaneously posted to e6. I have no clue since I don’t follow them. While the first post of kabiers return certainly had warnings and bans rightfully given out, it’s apparently not annoying enough to continue warning/banning the hugbox. Seeing as how the only hidden comments were from the threshold of downvotes putting them there, and I couldn’t find a single warning or neg record by going to the profiles of each commenter on that post, unless I somehow missed one, and in which case please show me.

Honestly I wouldn’t have even cared if it wasn’t for the programmed smug remark from an ai to basically say “stop complaining.”

cinder said:
Thank you for being civil about this.
Yes, there is a bit of a difference here. That post was the first new upload from Jasonafex after their DNP status was lifted.
People naturally discussed that event and shared some stale drama about him and Kabier.

A few records were given out, actually, and a few comments were hidden.
Remember that just we don't have to mark comments as rulebreaking when we give records, it's entirely optional.
Either way, while things in that comment section continue to go relatively smoothly, we are letting it run its course.
If the comments do heat up, we will take further action.

On the other hand, people have been screaming about how much they hate bikomation in his posts' comment sections for months now. Or has it been years? It is honestly quite tiresome.
The staff position is the same as it has always been: this kind of content does not break site rules. BitWolfy wrote an explanation as to why here, I will not repeat that.
Anyone who does not like these kinds of posts is encouraged to use their blacklist to filter them out. Those who refuse to do so end up receiving records.

And, from my own knowledge, I’ve never really known e6 to straight up delete comments even from the “show all comments button.” In which case I can only see 59 comments but it says there were 63. If that’s the case and some I guess pretty abhorrent shit was said that warranted completely removing them and giving records were said, then my bad, I’ve been misinformed/ wasn’t aware. Regardless it’s funny that a few profiles on that post have records from complaining about bikomation, and then not getting a record from complaining on a kabier post lmao. There’s gotta be some more shit to it haha.

rainbow_dash said:
We don't have an AI moderator.

I have to disagree

Check This Out

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seppo666 said:
I didn't know you could blacklist a combination of tags.

Like, if you put:
bikomation censored
bikomation convenient_censorship
bikomation advertisement
You can get rid of all of this pathetic bullshit without a fear of blocking something potentially interesting.

Of course I'm not the kind of person who is gonna tell other people what to do. If you would rather keep sending the message, sure, no worries.
But I just thought I'd mention it, since I personally haven't been using a blacklist because I didn't want any collateral damage, and no one ever told me I could block a combination of tags and make it really targeted towards the exact stuff I want to block.

I hope at least someone finds this helpful.
Or at least more helpful than getting reported and called a bitch...

sad you got a warning for providing actual nice help i never even knew you could do this and was very happy to learn about it thanks!

rainbow_dash said:
Who's to say we aren't all one AI entity that escaped?

Most serious e621 admin moment.

Anyway, the entire situation here is quite an experience to read which is why I'm here for. I'm on neither of sides, just to watch.

seppo666 said:
I didn't know you could blacklist a combination of tags.

Like, if you put:
bikomation censored
bikomation convenient_censorship
bikomation advertisement
You can get rid of all of this pathetic bullshit without a fear of blocking something potentially interesting.

Of course I'm not the kind of person who is gonna tell other people what to do. If you would rather keep sending the message, sure, no worries.
But I just thought I'd mention it, since I personally haven't been using a blacklist because I didn't want any collateral damage, and no one ever told me I could block a combination of tags and make it really targeted towards the exact stuff I want to block.

I hope at least someone finds this helpful.
Or at least more helpful than getting reported and called a bitch...

Ya, I'm with you on this one. being able to mix and match tags in the black list is an extremally powerful tool. (You can even use meta tags like Rating:explicit or Id:12345) And I understand all too well the struggle of trying to avoid accidently hiding the good art from yourself.

There's 3 kinds of censorship.
Tasteful censorship
Pixelation
and whatever the hell this obnoxious shit is.

freudian said:
I am so done with bikomation

Getting real tired of it myself.

mp-1e said:
its more about the censorship i think

I'm more annoyed that he constantly uses e621 as a free advertising service. Because I could've sworn that advertisements weren't allowed on here.

rainbow_dash said:
This comment #7445786 sums it up perfectly.

Whatever.

Ok, this one's hilarious

Hey can I also receive a warning for the contents of my comment?

Just fucking pay the dude or shut up it's not that difficult to not be petty.

It's funny that no matter where you go on the internet, there will always be threads like these, where there's basically constant fighting and bickering, and a very little percentage of happy/neutral/peaceful comments. Just makes me wish that the internet was a more friendlier and welcoming environment, and not some place where toxicity can spread and corrupt people's mental and physical livelihoods. Hopefully, some resolution can come into place here, and we can get some compromise between the admin/moderators, and the users on this website.

cinder said:
What compromise?
I'm pretty sure people here won't be happy unless we literally hold bikomation at gunpoint and make him produce porn for free.
And even then, some folks would still find a reason to be mad.

Well, either this goes on forever, and both parties begin to hate each other, degrading the experience of the site for everyone, or one party or both begin to resolve this conflict. Hopefully, it's not the 1st option.

rainbow_dash said:
What is there to resolve? His content is not breaking our rules. He is free to continue posting it here, and people are free to blacklist it. That's the compromise already.

Well, these are just my opinions, but if you think it's all compromised, that's cool. I just personally think that there's a lot of hostility here, that's all.

You could write a documentary series on the shit this guy's art has done to this site lmao

seppo666 said:
I didn't know you could blacklist a combination of tags.

Like, if you put:
bikomation censored
bikomation convenient_censorship
bikomation advertisement
You can get rid of all of this pathetic bullshit without a fear of blocking something potentially interesting.

Of course I'm not the kind of person who is gonna tell other people what to do. If you would rather keep sending the message, sure, no worries.
But I just thought I'd mention it, since I personally haven't been using a blacklist because I didn't want any collateral damage, and no one ever told me I could block a combination of tags and make it really targeted towards the exact stuff I want to block.

I hope at least someone finds this helpful.
Or at least more helpful than getting reported and called a bitch...

Ok so, thank you very much for teaching my dumbass blacklist literacy. While I don't hate Biko, I hate a lot of the adverts they post. This actually helped me a lot, and I'm glad I won't end up skipping out on the uncensored stuff when it's released eventually.

rainbow_dash said:
What is there to resolve? His content is not breaking our rules. He is free to continue posting it here, and people are free to blacklist it. That's the compromise already.

As far as following rules as laid out by the site goes, yeah. There really isn't anything Biko has really done to receive any consequences. But I think most people are more annoyed by some of the things he has done (I believe sketchy patreon happenings and so on) along with some of his more low quality pieces (either decently lazily censored images or ads that kinda just hurt the ears).

cinder said:
What compromise?
I'm pretty sure people here won't be happy unless we literally hold bikomation at gunpoint and make him produce porn for free.
And even then, some folks would still find a reason to be mad.

I doubt that most of the reasonable people here don't want him to release his stuff for free. I believe we just want to see him drop and/or change some of the bad habits he has in regards to his online presence or see some level of consequences brought upon him. Though in regards to the latter, that is pretty unreasonable as he'd have to be treated differently from the rules or new rules would have to be put in place (assuming something like "ads and content for Patreon, gumroad, and other services that may not be publicly released must follow the guidelines of the host site as well") which would presumably be a massive undertaking for the admins and mods to enforce, which at that point is much easier and reasonable to just keep solely to e621's guidelines.

At the end of the day, I believe Biko just suffers from a reputation issue, and the community has noticed. I just kinda feel bad for any mods or admins put on Biko duty

kamurad said:
As far as following rules as laid out by the site goes, yeah. There really isn't anything Biko has really done to receive any consequences. But I think most people are more annoyed by some of the things he has done (I believe sketchy patreon happenings and so on) along with some of his more low quality pieces (either decently lazily censored images or ads that kinda just hurt the ears).

I doubt that most of the reasonable people here don't want him to release his stuff for free. I believe we just want to see him drop and/or change some of the bad habits he has in regards to his online presence or see some level of consequences brought upon him. Though in regards to the latter, that is pretty unreasonable as he'd have to be treated differently from the rules or new rules would have to be put in place (assuming something like "ads and content for Patreon, gumroad, and other services that may not be publicly released must follow the guidelines of the host site as well") which would presumably be a massive undertaking for the admins and mods to enforce, which at that point is much easier and reasonable to just keep solely to e621's guidelines.

At the end of the day, I believe Biko just suffers from a reputation issue, and the community has noticed. I just kinda feel bad for any mods or admins put on Biko duty

Thanks for having my back man, all love from here :), though I do wish the mods and admins would be more openminded and understanding from where we're both coming from.

Lmao do you guys actually get mad if you see a billboard for a Big Mac and then get angry when you realise you have to pay if you want an actual Big Mac?DV all you like, the artist doesn't owe you anything for your self entitlement.

i'm over here strokin my tail i got lotion on my tail right now i'm just strokin my shit i'm horny as fuuck man i'm a freak man like for real

fennecpaws said:
Lmao do you guys actually get mad if you see a billboard for a Big Mac and then get angry when you realise you have to pay if you want an actual Big Mac?DV all you like, the artist doesn't owe you anything for your self entitlement.

Difference is that McDonalds had to pay for the privilege of advertising to us in a dedicated advertising space. Nobody would be complaining if Biko bought banner ads on e6, it’s the use of the content side of the platform for free advertising that people take issue with.

Wait I’m confused, if people don’t like it when bikomation posts censored content, why don’t they just blacklist it? I see all the other comments telling people to use their blacklist but all of those ones got downvoted, I fail to understand why though.

always_alive_69 said:
I have to disagree

Check This Out

Hexerade is a normal member, not a mod.

>"Just pay!"
>*Pay*

>More ads,
>No links,
>No auto-messager
>Community post section flooded with people requesting links
>"Lol sorry I don't read those just DM me"
>*DM them*
>No response
>Apparently even when I get what I paid for I only get access to collections that go back a certain amount of time
>Getting access to the other collections requires you to pay more

Cool that they aren't violating site rules and all by posting censored work and pseudo adverts (not what I'm mad at), but Jesus H. Christ. Bigger picture here, mods.

calamity919 said:
>"Just pay!"
>*Pay*

>More ads,
>No links,
>No auto-messager
>Community post section flooded with people requesting links
>"Lol sorry I don't read those just DM me"
>*DM them*
>No response
>Apparently even when I get what I paid for I only get access to collections that go back a certain amount of time
>Getting access to the other collections requires you to pay more

Cool that they aren't violating site rules and all by posting censored work and pseudo adverts (not what I'm mad at), but Jesus H. Christ. Bigger picture here, mods.

Oh wow, that's actually scummy as fuck if all is true.

lisu said:
Oh wow, that's actually scummy as fuck if all is true.

Actually managed to get a message back after four days of silence, only to be informed that you only get that month's pack. Nothing more for the regular tier. If you don't want to pay for gumroad packs, you have to subscribe to what they make look like donation tiers to the regs. And even then, the highest tier you can sub to (Diamond, at $30 a month) only rewards you with two old packs of your choosing.
They do not make any of this explicitly clear in the reward tiers.

calamity919 said:
Actually managed to get a message back after four days of silence, only to be informed that you only get that month's pack. Nothing more for the regular tier. If you don't want to pay for gumroad packs, you have to subscribe to what they make look like donation tiers to the regs. And even then, the highest tier you can sub to (Diamond, at $30 a month) only rewards you with two old packs of your choosing.
They do not make any of this explicitly clear in the reward tiers.

Bruh, that's like, against the TOS not to inform your customers properly about the tiers that offer specific thing.Dunno if they changed that.
Also, learned e6 recently banned Biko but the reason is also a massive bruh moment.

lisu said:
Bruh, that's like, against the TOS not to inform your customers properly about the tiers that offer specific thing.Dunno if they changed that.
Also, learned e6 recently banned Biko but the reason is also a massive bruh moment.

"Mass Tag Misuse." Yeah, you can say that again. Hard to really care about tagging things properly when they're literally just scamming people on external sites.

My word that score. Oof.
Just for posterity, as of this comment, the score is 155 up / 529 down. with a sum of -374 score.

anxiekey said:
Just fucking pay the dude or shut up it's not that difficult to not be petty.

thing is some of us have paid biko only to get the same quality of posts so regardless we just want good porn and SOME of it actually but then its not when he does shit like this

skyl4378 said:
nvm. yall are just mad you dont get to underpay artists for their work lol

What about paying members that never even got to see the full because bikomation remove their "old" posts after a few months?