Never disappoints

Hehe. Lip service.

More please

what is the song playing also neat

lrml said:
Three things i can't wait to see:

Dommy Park Dog Animation

Scratte Animation

Rain Animation

The dommy park dog animation already came out, did it not? Or am I confused. I could have sworn it was already out and posted?

That aside, absolutely love Itomic's and Paloma's work. Their human/feral animations are always top tier.

Yet another teaser of something that I'll definitely be looking forward to in the future.

Necesitamos más mamadas y sentones de yegua

I was a huge fan of paloma-paloma animations now not so much last few months even on his patreon is 5 - 20 seconds loops witch i thought was teasers sadly these aren't any upcoming videos not to be that lady who criticise everything but seems like the artist / animator is just giving up and started being lazy again don't want to sound like im criticising everything but come on hun we're getting a bit tired of these loops after today im actually cancelling my patreon with you im not paying for loops

lewd_lucy said:
I was a huge fan of paloma-paloma animations now not so much last few months even on his patreon is 5 - 20 seconds loops witch i thought was teasers sadly these aren't any upcoming videos not to be that lady who criticise everything but seems like the artist / animator is just giving up and started being lazy again don't want to sound like im criticising everything but come on hun we're getting a bit tired of these loops after today im actually cancelling my patreon with you im not paying for loops

Your description of this animation is so exceptionally inaccurate that I'm guessing you're not a patron and never were.

For those of you wondering this animation has 5 scenes. Which in itself is not a "loop". It is animated on the 1s which means hand drawn 24fps. And two scenes have solid beginnings and endings, which again, are not loops at all.

And all this was animated in literally 1 week.

Yes. We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

For some people I guess that's "lazy".

itoriffic said:
Your description of this animation is so exceptionally inaccurate that I'm guessing you're not a patron and never were.

For those of you wondering this animation has 5 scenes. Which in itself is not a "loop". It is animated on the 1s which means hand drawn 24fps. And two scenes have solid beginnings and endings, which again, are not loops at all.

And all this was animated in literally 1 week.

Yes. We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

For some people I guess that's "lazy".

Some people just don't know how to read descriptions, I guess. They were probably just on the $5 tier, not realizing the $10 VIP tier is required for the full animations

blodhgarm92 said:
The dommy park dog animation already came out, did it not? Or am I confused. I could have sworn it was already out and posted?

That aside, absolutely love Itomic's and Paloma's work. Their human/feral animations are always top tier.

I was talking about the sequel

Nevermind,we will never see it here

Siempre dándonos contenido de calidad 👍

IT ENDED AT THE BEST PART

itoriffic said:
Your description of this animation is so exceptionally inaccurate that I'm guessing you're not a patron and never were.

For those of you wondering this animation has 5 scenes. Which in itself is not a "loop". It is animated on the 1s which means hand drawn 24fps. And two scenes have solid beginnings and endings, which again, are not loops at all.

And all this was animated in literally 1 week.

Yes. We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

For some people I guess that's "lazy".

I do believe that you should make it clear that a full animation is out for your 10$ vip tier like on a little end card or something

lrml said:
I was talking about the sequel

Ahh, my apologies.

itoriffic said:
Yes. We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

Disney doesn't loop animations. They don't use fades to transition to another animation. Their lines/colors don't jitter. You're not Disney, Disney isn't even Disney anymore. What's next? Looping an animation for two hours so you can claim to be the first feature-length feral porn producer?

We are waiting for the whole team full

sneakybeeki said:
Disney doesn't loop animations. They don't use fades to transition to another animation. Their lines/colors don't jitter. You're not Disney, Disney isn't even Disney anymore. What's next? Looping an animation for two hours so you can claim to be the first feature-length feral porn producer?

Did you see the dommy dog video? 🐕

itoriffic said:
Did you see the dommy dog video? 🐕

Are you now moving the goalpost? Let me quote you again.

itoriffic said:
We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

itoriffic said:
every week.

"Dommy dog" wasn't made in a week as it was considered a "major project," right? How long did that "Disney quality" production take? BTW, I'm still waiting for the fox one; it's been almost 5 months. Since it only takes you a week to make a 1-minute animation, I can't wait for that 20+ minute release! Putting the sarcasm aside, since I can only infer that you believe "dommy dog" is "Disney quality", I'll give my critique of that animation, too, since you asked for it.

With all the jittery lines/colors, I'd say you're more in line with Ed, Edd n Eddy quality. The painterly backgrounds are disjointed from the art style and lack any consistent light source. Once again, it's ladened with loops to bump the length. The sound mixing is lackluster, with only basic elements without any ambient elements of the dog park or rustling of clothes, etc.

My point? What's being made is pretty good for a one-person porn producer. But Disney is a production. You like to use the term "producer," but you're far from it. For you to even be close to Disney quality, even for their oldest movies, you'd either need thirty more people or a hundred years to make your animations. So if you want to compare yourself to Disney, you will be expected to bring actual Disney quality.

sneakybeeki said:
Are you now moving the goalpost? Let me quote you again.

"Dommy dog" wasn't made in a week as it was considered a "major project," right? How long did that "Disney quality" production take? BTW, I'm still waiting for the fox one; it's been almost 5 months. Since it only takes you a week to make a 1-minute animation, I can't wait for that 20+ minute release! Putting the sarcasm aside, since I can only infer that you believe "dommy dog" is "Disney quality", I'll give my critique of that animation, too, since you asked for it.

With all the jittery lines/colors, I'd say you're more in line with Ed, Edd n Eddy quality. The painterly backgrounds are disjointed from the art style and lack any consistent light source. Once again, it's ladened with loops to bump the length. The sound mixing is lackluster, with only basic elements without any ambient elements of the dog park or rustling of clothes, etc.

My point? What's being made is pretty good for a one-person porn producer. But Disney is a production. You like to use the term "producer," but you're far from it. For you to even be close to Disney quality, even for their oldest movies, you'd either need thirty more people or a hundred years to make your animations. So if you want to compare yourself to Disney, you will be expected to bring actual Disney quality.

You latched on to "disney" pretty hard there. But I digress.

My point was as a small team, we have the ABILITY to produce minute long hand animated features every week. The dog took longer sure. And the fox one has been in production for a few months. But thats due to our desired schedule and not ability. Since I desire to release full animations COMPLETED every week, we only do one to two scenes of the fox every week. We did the same with dommy dog, but that was delayed further due to Palomas health issues.

As for "quality". Subjective. We animate on the 1s. Which again is 24fps. Most animators use 12fps because it's muuuch faster and easier. But gives a less smooth appearance. The jittery lines is a style choice, thats on purpose. I prefer the look of constant movement then line stagnation. I don't agree the animation needed further sfx in post either. Might of polished it a little further but I prefer the classic bright colors. Sure we could add in minute little details like you mentioned to further meet a personalized definition of "disney quality". But it would most likely not result in anything that is noticed by the overwhelming majority of people, and result in much longer production times. I like to balance quality with productivity. I don't think lighting effects or minute added animated details are needed for additional attention at this point.

So again, your latching onto Disney as per your definition which is fine. I simply used it because that's a common reference thats been used to describe it by others, mostly due to its high frame rate, style, and hand drawn nature. In a world filled with tweened animation loops, I think most people appreciate the extra work. And it shows, that video is close approaching 10k favs. Not bad right?

Hope this explains! Have a good one!

itoriffic said:
Your description of this animation is so exceptionally inaccurate that I'm guessing you're not a patron and never were.

For those of you wondering this animation has 5 scenes. Which in itself is not a "loop". It is animated on the 1s which means hand drawn 24fps. And two scenes have solid beginnings and endings, which again, are not loops at all.

And all this was animated in literally 1 week.

Yes. We can animate literal Disney quality 1 minute movies every week.

For some people I guess that's "lazy".

First of all you basically called me a liar for supporting Patreon accounts inc Bikomation and many more all of those we're the basic accounts im subscribed to each month im paying more than any person should every animator & artist i came across aren't rude but you are you clearly proven that by calling someone a lair who was supporting your channel well not anymore furthermore it was you whos lying what you have posted on both patreon & e621 are [ LOOPS ] i clearly don't think you understand what a loop is your just arrogant & i hope other people see and stop supporting you

itoriffic said:
You latched on to "disney" pretty hard there. But I digress.

I wasn't the one who claimed to have "literal Disney quality". It's one thing to say you have quality, it's another thing entirely to compare yourself to a studio. Even if only done due to "others" having done so.

itoriffic said:
In a world filled with tweened animation loops, I think most people appreciate the extra work. And it shows, that video is close approaching 10k favs. Not bad right?

But on the flip side, it's not even in the top 50 animations on this site. But that's just an objective scale of "quality". Because overall this is porn, not the Mona Lisa or Disney movie. Does anyone actually care if it's animated on 1s, 2s or 3D? Nope. If it's good, it's good. I mean, why else would you commission WigFritter?

Exactly.

lewd_lucy said:
First of all you basically called me a liar for supporting Patreon accounts inc Bikomation and many more all of those we're the basic accounts im subscribed to each month im paying more than any person should every animator & artist i came across aren't rude but you are you clearly proven that by calling someone a lair who was supporting your channel well not anymore furthermore it was you whos lying what you have posted on both patreon & e621 are [ LOOPS ] i clearly don't think you understand what a loop is your just arrogant & i hope other people see and stop supporting you

Okay bro 👌

Don't be upset because you posted false information just to try to dissuade people from signing up and I called you out for it. You have a lovely day

sneakybeeki said:
I wasn't the one who claimed to have "literal Disney quality". It's one thing to say you have quality, it's another thing entirely to compare yourself to a studio. Even if only done due to "others" having done so.

But on the flip side, it's not even in the top 50 animations on this site. But that's just an objective scale of "quality". Because overall this is porn, not the Mona Lisa or Disney movie. Does anyone actually care if it's animated on 1s, 2s or 3D? Nope. If it's good, it's good. I mean, why else would you commission WigFritter?

Exactly.

I never referred to my stuff as Disney like until it was made multiple times in the comments on this site, amoung others. So I run with it. You took extreme offense to that for some reason. It's okay though. I'm sure you'll get over it. And I'll continue referring it to a way that sells it and makes it relatable. Because that's how sales work.

As for it not being in the top 50. Okay. It's been up for literally 8 weeks. Give it another couple months and I'm sure it will be up on the first page. Not that I care about that, I'm just pointing out submissions with 10k favs are rare and aren't given to poor animations. Or perhaps "sub Disney quality" animations even!

As for wigfritter, lol, call it what you want. 😉 it's a fantastic project that works (and BENEFITS) both of us.

Have a good one dude. Always a pleasure!

itoriffic said:
You took extreme offense to that for some reason. It's okay though. I'm sure you'll get over it.

I get it, you get objective criticism, and you instantly go on the offensive to try and play it off as if someone is wrong or "mad" about something. Lol, we saw it when an admin called you out on how bad your renders are. But that's neither here nor there. I've just been pointing out facts and inconsistencies in your comments. No need to take it so personally; calm down.

itoriffic said:
And I'll continue referring it to a way that sells it. Because that's how sales work.

At least it's nice to know that even you admit it's not Disney quality but just a sales tactic.

Good day to you, Sir.

sneakybeeki said:
I get it, you get objective criticism, and you instantly go on the offensive to try and play it off as if someone is wrong or "mad" about something. Lol, we saw it when an admin called you out on how bad your renders are. But that's neither here nor there. I've just been pointing out facts and inconsistencies in your comments. No need to take it so personally; calm down.

At least it's nice to know that even you admit it's not Disney quality but just a sales tactic.

Good day to you, Sir.

Yep. If the critisizm is sound I handle it fine. But calling something a "loop" when it's not or pushing a personalized definition of what makes "disney quality" and what doesn't isn't really constructive. Your best feedback was about adding in sfx like lighting and additional details. I replied to that professionally. Could of ended there, but obviously, you just had further bones to pick.

As for mairos, look at how I responded to his comments. Completely fair and constructively. Because as I admitted I know very little about lossless render settings. All exports we have access to have compression. Though I do think Mairo was being a little unfair about his gif issues, I still learned something.

I've learned nothing from this conversation except how much a minority of people on this site take offense to certain things. Like "ads". Or the word "disney".

Thanks for that I guess! See ya!

itoriffic said:
Okay bro 👌

Don't be upset because you posted false information just to try to dissuade people from signing up and I called you out for it. You have a lovely day

False information are you deluded or damn right retarded e621 all your recent posts are loops and calling me out no your just mad your not getting more money from a supporter anymore

itoriffic said:
But calling something a "loop" when it's not or pushing a personalized definition of what makes "disney quality" and what doesn't isn't really constructive.

Oh wait... I think I finally get it... It's actually hilarious, seeing as you tried to say that I'm pushing a "personalized definition". Do you think the only thing that constitutes a loop is if the start and end of an animation loop seamlessly? I see now. Ito, I highly suggest you talk to Paloma so they can tell you what an animation loop is. I expected a "director" to know something so basic, but, well, this is rather embarrassing. Yeah, your animations loop, not in their entirety, as you believe, but they do loop.

The more you know.

lewd_lucy said:
False information are you deluded or damn right retarded e621 all your recent posts are loops and calling me out no your just mad your not getting more money from a supporter anymore

You are attempting to disguise your comments as constructive critisim when your real intention is to dissuade people from signing up.

Sure. We do loops. We do a lot of them. But we also do longer full multi scene animations like this one, who's only scenes that "loop" are the sex scenes which are inherent looping motions to begin with. In the last 4 weeks I've completed 3 medium and major projects which were full storied animations. (Rain (this one), salazzle, and judy hopps(just finished)) That's almost one a week.

So, knowing that, you are being deliberately dishonest and misleading and you and I both know it.

sneakybeeki said:
Oh wait... I think I finally get it... It's actually hilarious, seeing as you tried to say that I'm pushing a "personalized definition". Do you think the only thing that constitutes a loop is if the start and end of an animation loop seamlessly? I see now. Ito, I highly suggest you talk to Paloma so they can tell you what an animation loop is. I expected a "director" to know something so basic, but, well, this is rather embarrassing. Yeah, your animations loop, not in their entirety, as you believe, but they do loop.

The more you know.

The fact you are continuing to attempt the last insulting word in just further shows you are not here to critisize for the betterment of our animations and instead are just trolling. Keep going, it looks great.And I have no issue continuing to respond. It's fun and doesn't actually hurt me at all. Just fyi.

itoriffic said:
The fact you are continuing to attempt the last insulting word in just further shows you are not here to critisize for the betterment of our animations and instead are just trolling. Keep going, it looks great.And I have no issue continuing to respond. It's fun and doesn't actually hurt me at all. Just fyi.

Hey, I'm not the one who is flip-flopping about my animations not being loops, then admitting they do loop. Saying it's literal Disney quality, then admitting it was just a sale tactic. What does me correcting you to the point of truth somehow trolling? Let's be honest; if I didn't criticize you, you wouldn't have kept responding before then correcting your mistakes. Did I write your comments, too, as a way to insult you?

I don't think so, but you've always had a fragile ego, so you feel the need to save face, which is an objective statement based on how you conduct yourself online and is not meant as an insult. I'm pretty sure I've never seen you once take a comment as is but always have to throw in a something or other excuse for why something is the way it is.

Case in point:

itoriffic said:
Thanks for the feedback. None of us are compression experts lol but I can also say no one has ever complained to me about the animation quality either on our website.

Just because you add "thanks for the feedback" at the start is unironically equal to "I'm not a racist but...". Even when faced with an objective fact, you just have to try and spin it that someone is wrong or soften the blow so you can cope with it I suppose. Have all the comments about you peddling ads got to you so much that you now view anyone who isn't giving blind praise as an enemy? It certainly comes off that way.

sneakybeeki said:
Hey, I'm not the one who is flip-flopping about my animations not being loops, then admitting they do loop. Saying it's literal Disney quality, then admitting it was just a sale tactic. What does me correcting you to the point of truth somehow trolling? Let's be honest; if I didn't criticize you, you wouldn't have kept responding before then correcting your mistakes. Did I write your comments, too, as a way to insult you?

I don't think so, but you've always had a fragile ego, so you feel the need to save face, which is an objective statement based on how you conduct yourself online and is not meant as an insult. I'm pretty sure I've never seen you once take a comment as is but always have to throw in a something or other excuse for why something is the way it is.

Case in point: Just because you add "thanks for the feedback" at the start is unironically equal to "I'm not a racist but...". Even when faced with an objective fact, you just have to try and spin it that someone is wrong or soften the blow so you can cope with it I suppose. Have all the comments about you peddling ads got to you so much that you now view anyone who isn't giving blind praise as an enemy? It certainly comes off that way.

Haha, still with the Disney thing. I did make it clear in a previous comment how I actually define it. Not that I actually think that our animations compare to Disney's literal masterpieces, but rather based on the style, smooth animation, and effort. So yes, I still think it'd an adequate description of our best efforts, and think it's a fair comparison given our small size. Despite your objections. And thus why I said I have no issue using it to sell our content. The same way a good review is plastered on a movie poster. That's not flip flopping. That's advertising.

As for the other stuff, about you being my enemy and fragile ego and all that lol thats stuff I heard all before. I don't actually hate you or think low of you or anything. You're just doing some fun little trolling. Not much of a bother. I just like to defend what we do, and have no issue doing it. I find it riveting.

You seem to struggle with that fact and it's why every response is being more personal, more about me as a person and my faults then our actual animation quality. This is actually what I was hoping for, as any person who reads these messages at this point it will be clear what the issue you have actually is.

It's not our animation quality. It's me.

And I'm very much okay with that because the vast majority obviously disagree with you, as per our very successful platform and constant hi fav/upvote count and overwhelming feedback. And that's never going to change as long as we continue producing hi quality content and releasing everything publically. Which, by the way, I will be doing tonight. So do go check those out, you might even like them!

Anything further my man?

blodhgarm92 said:
Ahh, my apologies.

You are forgiven....*look over Sunglasses* ....for NOW! 😉

somethingedgey said:
I do believe that you should make it clear that a full animation is out for your 10$ vip tier like on a little end card or something

Its on the Patreon tier list, clear as day. Took only 15-20 seconds of effort to find that out.

lrml said:
You are forgiven....*look over Sunglasses* ....for NOW! 😉

OwO

itoriffic said:
Haha, still with the Disney thing. I did make it clear in a previous comment how I actually define it. Not that I actually think that our animations compare to Disney's literal masterpieces, but rather based on the style, smooth animation, and effort. So yes, I still think it'd an adequate description of our best efforts, and think it's a fair comparison given our small size. Despite your objections. And thus why I said I have no issue using it to sell our content. The same way a good review is plastered on a movie poster. That's not flip flopping. That's advertising.

As for the other stuff, about you being my enemy and fragile ego and all that lol thats stuff I heard all before. I don't actually hate you or think low of you or anything. You're just doing some fun little trolling. Not much of a bother. I just like to defend what we do, and have no issue doing it. I find it riveting.

You seem to struggle with that fact and it's why every response is being more personal, more about me as a person and my faults then our actual animation quality. This is actually what I was hoping for, as any person who reads these messages at this point it will be clear what the issue you have actually is.

It's not our animation quality. It's me.

And I'm very much okay with that because the vast majority obviously disagree with you, as per our very successful platform and constant hi fav/upvote count and overwhelming feedback. And that's never going to change as long as we continue producing hi quality content and releasing everything publically. Which, by the way, I will be doing tonight. So do go check those out, you might even like them!

Anything further my man?

Your work is good; but ain't no way I'm sending money if it's funding someone who draws torture/murder/rape/cub (etheross). My friends don't sub for the same reason. Gross

I hope to see more of this!

itoriffic said:
Haha, still with the Disney thing. I did make it clear in a previous comment how I actually define it. Not that I actually think that our animations compare to Disney's literal masterpieces, but rather based on the style, smooth animation, and effort. So yes, I still think it'd an adequate description of our best efforts, and think it's a fair comparison given our small size. Despite your objections. And thus why I said I have no issue using it to sell our content. The same way a good review is plastered on a movie poster. That's not flip flopping. That's advertising.

As for the other stuff, about you being my enemy and fragile ego and all that lol thats stuff I heard all before. I don't actually hate you or think low of you or anything. You're just doing some fun little trolling. Not much of a bother. I just like to defend what we do, and have no issue doing it. I find it riveting.

You seem to struggle with that fact and it's why every response is being more personal, more about me as a person and my faults then our actual animation quality. This is actually what I was hoping for, as any person who reads these messages at this point it will be clear what the issue you have actually is.

It's not our animation quality. It's me.

And I'm very much okay with that because the vast majority obviously disagree with you, as per our very successful platform and constant hi fav/upvote count and overwhelming feedback. And that's never going to change as long as we continue producing hi quality content and releasing everything publically. Which, by the way, I will be doing tonight. So do go check those out, you might even like them!

Anything further my man?

itoriffic said:
Haha, still with the Disney thing. I did make it clear in a previous comment how I actually define it. Not that I actually think that our animations compare to Disney's literal masterpieces, but rather based on the style, smooth animation, and effort. So yes, I still think it'd an adequate description of our best efforts, and think it's a fair comparison given our small size. Despite your objections. And thus why I said I have no issue using it to sell our content. The same way a good review is plastered on a movie poster. That's not flip flopping. That's advertising.

As for the other stuff, about you being my enemy and fragile ego and all that lol thats stuff I heard all before. I don't actually hate you or think low of you or anything. You're just doing some fun little trolling. Not much of a bother. I just like to defend what we do, and have no issue doing it. I find it riveting.

You seem to struggle with that fact and it's why every response is being more personal, more about me as a person and my faults then our actual animation quality. This is actually what I was hoping for, as any person who reads these messages at this point it will be clear what the issue you have actually is.

It's not our animation quality. It's me.

And I'm very much okay with that because the vast majority obviously disagree with you, as per our very successful platform and constant hi fav/upvote count and overwhelming feedback. And that's never going to change as long as we continue producing hi quality content and releasing everything publically. Which, by the way, I will be doing tonight. So do go check those out, you might even like them!

Anything further my man?

Will this ever be released in full on here?

We need more feral horse... um, "lip_jobs"? Yeah, not sure if there's any tags that better describe it, but yeah. Anyway super hot! Now I'm off to see if I can find some more lip stuff.

azdy67 said:
Will this ever be released in full on here?

I don't think so...