well that happened

Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

50k when

Can someone contact Guinness World Records because $50,000 wasted or highest amount spent on a cartoon music video has got to be the only time this could be recorded. To think of what good that could have done and a tax write off that could have been if donated.

When even furries are calling your self insert commission a waste of money, you've accomplished something in life.

Not something GOOD or anything, but it'll be in the history books.

For the record someone spender 50000 dollars for this

I don't understand whats going on with behind the video, I'm pretty sure there's something behind it because people are saying someone spent 50000 for it, but can someone explain what happened?

Now I don't judge on what folks spend their money on often, but for almost $50K, I'd probably want more than just a tease tbh. Gimme the full Charlie package

Bro scammed himself

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

This looks like Your Favorite Martian, and is equally as embarrassing, if not more.

thedreadknight said:
I don't understand whats going on with behind the video, I'm pretty sure there's something behind it because people are saying someone spent 50000 for it, but can someone explain what happened?

Verbalase (the guy in this video) is a YouTuber that uploads videos of cartoon beatbox battles, and he privately commissioned an animator to make this for him for almost $50,000 last year. About a couple months later, Verbalase asked his fans for financial help to keep the cartoon beatbox battles going and fans never knew why he was broke. That is until recently someone in Verbalase's discord revealed that this commission is what made him go broke and it was uploaded somewhere on YouTube. Not long after, fans found the video and it's been trending ever since.

EDIT: I was gonna link to the original dude that outed him but it looks like they deleted their tweet. Interesting.

Can anyone imagine Vizzie's reaction to this?

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

I keep seeing the figure get thrown around but I've never seen an actual source on it. I have a feeling it was actually $5k but $50k is so outlandish that people keep repeating it.

daminuyu said:
Can anyone imagine Vizzie's reaction to this?

Holy shit I hope she's laughing her ass off, this is funny af

daminuyu said:
Can anyone imagine Vizzie's reaction to this?

You don't have to imagine. https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1745551286697927059

Bro made it out of the hood and blew it all on hazbin hotel porn its so joever

came here for usual e621 purposes and instead i discover that funny beatbox guy i didn't hear of in years paid 50k for a self insert animation

i love this website

No problem with people being down bad for fictional characters but this guy verbalase just reached a whole different level, my pfp should be a more than good response to the whole situation.

Btw am i the only who sees that some parts of the video look traced from the hh pilot? i don't if the ones who were paid tried to emulate the animation style used in the pilot or not but if that is the case then it's just sad.

Now this here is just a sad display of Financial Responsibility

The Animation IS Good, but Not $50 K Good, Bro Got Ripped Off Something Fierce. Like Seriously, I Bet Most of That was Supposed "Royalty" Fees.

Bro this year's starting off with a BANG ain't it. Rip $50k fr

damn, and here I am feeling bad about charging 900$ for my crappy model and avatars and this guy went and spent 50k on this? where can i contact him, i don't have any animation skills but im sure I will figure something out for 50k.

The video? Pretty good

The backstory for the video?
post #913941

Here's a reminder that El Mariachi, Clerks, and Eraserhead are all feature-length theatrical films notible for being made with under $30,000. However, these are live-action.

Dick Figures: The Movie (based on the YouTube series) is a 73 minute animated film and was made with a budget of ~$313,500. Doing the math yields an estimated $4,250 for each minute of animation.

What I'm really trying to say here is that this has better be a joke or else I'm going to blow a gasket.

$50k should be worth hours of smut, not a tease and a simple suggestive video.

tsm said:
50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

he literally could've commissioned an entire folder's worth of self insert hazbin hotel porn, like literally hundreds of photos maybe even some gifs. hell, you could buy a car. If I had that money I'd use it to pay programmers to completely cover my game development fund, even a fraction of that would be enough of a budget if i even had $10,000 to freely spend. 5 times that???? I could buy so many plane tickets to go see all my international friends, i could commission like 5 different fursuits and still have money left over, literally you can do so much with $50k, but apparently 3 minutes of self insert hazbin hotel softcore smut is worth more to verbalase than anything we can imagine.

It's a pretty good music video so I was wondering why it had so many dislikes. Then I read the comments and it became clear. Dumb ass bankrupted himself for this and then begged his audience to bail him out without telling them why he was broke.

thehuskyk9 said:
Now I don't judge on what folks spend their money on often, but for almost $50K, I'd probably want more than just a tease tbh. Gimme the full Charlie package

I was about to say. I have spent $500 on high quality commissions before. If I am going to spend 100 times more, I expect at least three minutes of the utmost hot NSFW with Charlie Morningstar. What a waste of money, hahaha!

I'm not gonna kink-shame the guy or anything, but I am going to tell him to put his money to better use.
For a bit of softcore smut, this is not worth $50k.

cargath said:
This looks like Your Favorite Martian, and is equally as embarrassing, if not more.

YFM is rather old and was arguably fine for its day. You can't really judge something fairly for standards a decade older, and at least it was meant for a wider audience.

This man is 40 years old btw

lennoxicon said:
You don't have to imagine. https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1745551286697927059

I imagine she gets to use that a lot.

What's worse is that for $50k he could've rented a mansion with top-rated hookers and had a massive orgy with, y'know, real people.

.. and he chose to do this instead. Makes you think, doesn't it?

seems like he got ripped off. do think its kinda weird people think it has to have pp in v action. i mean this is a rape chase animation. if thats his fetish then hed be more interested in that rather than porn. anyway this is god damn hilarious. this character will forever be associated with this video and this dude spending all his money on a yandere waifu self insert animation. my sides.

Regardless of the controversial history behind this animation,
I think we can all agree that Charlie Morningstar would be an absolute BADDIE to have in bed, on GAAWWD.

Brother
$50k would have gotten me into a house.
Instead, it went to a rapechase kink fest for this dude. I mean, good on the animator for a banger payday, but damn.

Holy shit.
I mean...holy shit.
I'm not sure whether to kneel, cringe are laugh at this magnificent waste of money.
I mean this is some god damn high quality animation, but to have it used on this...?
I think I'm gonna go drink and thank my lucky stars I'm not Verbalase right now.

Why are people downvoting this masterpiece of cringe 😆 👌

Uhhh... I-i don't... I can't uhhh... Eh...

WHAT???

support your artists but 50k, holy shit

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

Some people h̶a̶v̶e̶ had too much money...why is it always discord where people throw themselves under the bus?

RIP (Respectfully) on every account

That's kinda sad

if im gonna spend 50k I better be getting more ACTUAL FUCKIN' than just a fade to black

Dude I'd kill for that money

tbh spending 50k for this sounds like a better deal than comissioning Miles

If it's 50k I better be getting head from every main character and side character from both shows

Why do most of the backgrounds not even look like the show, lol?

I.. I hate humans.
I reject my humanity jojo.

i will never understand what possessed verbalase to spend 50k on this

there wasnt even any sex like im pretty sure just commissioning a porn animation would be cheaper

thehuskyk9 said:
Verbalase (the guy in this video) is a YouTuber that uploads videos of cartoon beatbox battles, and he privately commissioned an animator to make this for him for almost $50,000 last year. About a couple months later, Verbalase asked his fans for financial help to keep the cartoon beatbox battles going and fans never knew why he was broke. That is until recently someone in Verbalase's discord revealed that this commission is what made him go broke and it was uploaded somewhere on YouTube. Not long after, fans found the video and it's been trending ever since.

EDIT: I was gonna link to the original dude that outed him but it looks like they deleted their tweet. Interesting.

Thanks for clarification :)

forget Miles-dfs high-ass commisions, this by far utterly insane commissioned, 50k for this.

I really thought this was just some elaborate stunt to get people to start talking about him again, i went on his YouTube channel and he completely disabled the ability for people to comment and now that i’ve watched the full commission i can safely say this is NOT a stunt….

Hate to pile one, but that's a year's salary for me and I have to put in 50 hours a week to do just that!!!

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

Honestly sounds like the avarage artist comission

Okay... The guy self-shipped with his fictional planotic love and stuff, but did he do something bad as such?

Because compared to the daily controversy of "Youtuber grums minors", this seems quite simple

Damn, I don't think all of my pics add up to even close to 50k, man could've gotten mad tons of porn with his ficto crush with that money. Each to their own I guess

a-e-tretcheleo said:
Okay... The guy self-shipped with his fictional planotic love and stuff, but did he do something bad as such?

Because compared to the daily controversy of "Youtuber grums minors", this seems quite simple

In a way, a youtuber having controversy and it not being the usual noncery and just being a lil cringe is kind of refreshing.

a-e-tretcheleo said:
Okay... The guy self-shipped with his fictional planotic love and stuff, but did he do something bad as such?

Because compared to the daily controversy of "Youtuber grums minors", this seems quite simple

Well, if you read the comments here, it sounds like he begged his fans for money AFTER he went broke for paying for this kind of animation and never told them that THIS was the reason he had to beg for money.

I think it would've been a normal self-insert fan animation if he wasn't an apparently famous Youtuber who e-beg his fans to recoup his financial loss.

imagine having enough money to buy a house in some parts of the united states and instead giving it all to some guy to draw a character from a single youtube animation pilot lusting after you

bro could be making rent income right now, but he wanted this more

Words cannot describe how much I love this. Every couple seconds and facial expression is a reaction gif, like the characters are recognizable but just off-model enough that these batshit insane faces are even funnier.

There’s an art to high-effort trash and I’m so happy that it exists. This should be the textbook definition of so bad it’s good

Don't know what is worse: Some paid 50K for this to be animated or Someone made 50K animating this.
also who the fuck is this guy?

50k for this is fuckin crazy

Aside from the huge payday, the animator really made out well with this. Imagine putting on your portfolio that you made 50k for a single animation that became known on the internet

Can we get the Downvote to 50K?

Wonder if he’s regretting not investing that money into his 401K, right now?

pirateeagle said:

Damn, I don't think all of my pics add up to even close to 50k, man could've gotten mad tons of porn with his ficto crush with that money. Each to their own I guess

In a way, a youtuber having controversy and it not being the usual noncery and just being a lil cringe is kind of refreshing.

HOLY SHIT EVEN THE MYTHICAL PIRATE EAGLES IN ON THIS OH MY LORD

Was it worth it?

I am Heavy Commissions Guy.

And this… is my commission.

She weighs 90.1 megabytes and displays a $50000 custom made animation at 3600 frames per minute.

It costs $3448 to play this commission… for twelve seconds.

So just wanna make sure I understand why this is getting clowned on so hard beside the fact the whole animation has an uncomfortable feel to it given it seems very non consensual throughout and just cringe.

Theres suspicion of whoever the artist is, art tracing things from the pilot episode of hazbin hotel.

Plus Verbalase irresponsibly spent 50k on this animation he could have used to pay his animators for his rap battle animations, instead of begging for money donations to help pay his animators.

Have I got the full picture here?

dackjaniels22 said:
I am Heavy Commissions Guy.

And this… is my commission.

She weighs 90.1 megabytes and displays a $50000 custom made animation at 3600 frames per minute.

It costs $3448 to play this commission… for twelve seconds.

Sorry for asking but I'm stupid, are you saying that we have to pay to watch or is how much it would cost to watch?

daminuyu said:
Can anyone imagine Vizzie's reaction to this?

She knows already

I wanna cry

This reminds me of that Looney Tunes Show musical of Lola being a psychopath in love with Bugs as he runs away frantically

What in the fuck? Brother spent 50k on a softcore tease AMV? /facepaw
I'd want at least- like- a 20 minute short film.

This is doo doo.

wselfwulf said:
Don't know what is worse: Some paid 50K for this to be animated or Someone made 50K animating this.
also who the fuck is this guy?

He's that guy that beatboxed the Tetris theme.

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

It looks good to me.

cotulprital0241 said:
came here for usual e621 purposes and instead i discover that funny beatbox guy i didn't hear of in years paid 50k for a self insert animation

i love this website

I swear, I learn of some of the most bizarre news on this website

Best time to live in

"Umm, I think I need to take a shower."
-Squidward Tentacles

bdanimare said:
I keep seeing the figure get thrown around but I've never seen an actual source on it. I have a feeling it was actually $5k but $50k is so outlandish that people keep repeating it.

Honestly, Without concrete proof, He could have spent only $50, 5 bucks,
This could have been a passion project that didn't even involve him.
50,000 is a pretty big figure to throw around and if he spent that much
I'd need some receipts to believe it. And sorry to say but, in this day and
age, Discord Chat Screenshots aren't enough since they can easily be
faked, Dood.

My question is "How did the person who first said this, know?"
From what I've seen, This whole thing was said by some peep in his discord.
Who are they? and why would they know this really specific thing?
How did they know it cost 50,000 dollars, Exactly?

Plus:

thehuskyk9 said:
EDIT: I was gonna link to the original dude that outed him but it looks like they deleted their tweet. Interesting.

Sorry m8 but, Without an apology video, There's no way to tell, Dood

CRINGE DETECTED

alexandermugetsu said:
He's that guy that beatboxed the Tetris theme.

who?

I'm 100% confident that whoever was asked to make this laughed all the way to the bank.

$50.000... I can buy a new car for that money, good God.

notkastar said:
Honestly, Without concrete proof, He could have spent only $50, 5 bucks,
This could have been a passion project that didn't even involve him.
50,000 is a pretty big figure to throw around and if he spent that much
I'd need some receipts to believe it. And sorry to say but, in this day and
age, Discord Chat Screenshots aren't enough since they can easily be
faked, Dood.

My question is "How did the person who first said this, know?"
From what I've seen, This whole thing was said by some peep in his discord.
Who are they? and why would they know this really specific thing?
How did they know it cost 50,000 dollars, Exactly?

Plus:
Sorry m8 but, Without an apology video, There's no way to tell, Dood

Given what some people are into, I can believe it. I mean, you have people that get off on giving all of their money to an online personality and being degraded by said personality because of it.

carnivore4lyf said:
Given what some people are into, I can believe it. I mean, you have people that get off on giving all of their money to an online personality and being degraded by said personality because of it.

I'm not saying it's impossible, Anything is possible,
just without solid evidence be it Paypal or an apology
from him posted on one of the places he runs.
I don't believe it, There are just too many holes
for this to hold water for me, Dood

The guy outing him deleted the comment, Every link
of proof being a close-up of a discord chat without any
extraneous details a regular screencap would have-

It's too neat for the lack of detail behind it. It's
a conclusion without an explanation, It's weird
that there are no lines leading back to the
beginning right, Dood?

The Concordia, Fire Festival, Fallout 76
There's always a hole the rabbits came out of
but here, I can't find one, Dood.

I like the music used. 👌

darkblue666 said:
I'm not gonna kink-shame the guy or anything, but I am going to tell him to put his money to better use.
For a bit of softcore smut, this is not worth $50k.

That is true me as well. But it wasn't my money to spend lol. Was it way too much? Many agree yes. Do we actually know if he spent that much? Maybe maybe not.

I actually like it. The animation, the music, everything

Verbalase and Charlie Morningstar is the new Twilight and Mordecai now.

No way in hell this animation alone was $50k, I'm thinking he commissioned some other more NSFW animations that can't be put on youtube and the whole package with this video included was $50k.
At least I hope so, bro could've payed my rent for 3 years he BETTER have gotten something else than just an okay music video with some softcore porn thrown in the end.

i think people forget the song licensing. I like to think most of the money went into that fee rather than the animation lol

zerofoxgiven21 said:
Can someone contact Guinness World Records because $50,000 wasted or highest amount spent on a cartoon music video has got to be the only time this could be recorded. To think of what good that could have done and a tax write off that could have been if donated.

Verbalase's mother would be very proud of such a record

The only good thing to come out from this, was that I discovered a pretty good music.

Can't stop bopping to it! 🕺

Now with these 50.000 dollars and whatever is left of my dignity i shall ruin my career.

This guy spent 50k dollars just for a music video and a 30-second softcore porn at the end?

Then you have to ask to go bankrupt

I mean, I can see if it was a real baddie. If you blew 50 Gs on a Loona animation, I'd be like "ay, that's Loona."

But Charlie?

wselfwulf said:
who?

This dude: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UghxgQ56vuQ

When one dude takes the coom to far, gives said dude brain rot, and burns 50k.
Wish I had 50k to help me go to law school.

arty_wolf said:
Aside from the huge payday, the animator really made out well with this. Imagine putting on your portfolio that you made 50k for a single animation that became known on the internet

I'm not so sure because of the scrutiny & criticism you'd get. Maybe I just don't know enough about commissioning or animation, but if your animation isn't worth 50k (which this doesn't seem to be tbh) then it doesn't look good for you.
Like, can understand if the animation was in the single-digit thousands of dollars or something because that is reasonably priced for the length. But 50k is a whole other level.

At 50k it comes down to $285.71 per second. At 50k it is apparently more expensive than the pilot episode(which is 22 minutes long btw) of Long Gone Gulch.

I mean in all honesty this isn't that bad. As for the 50k thing pretty sure so far there is no 100% confirmation that he spent that much on it. All we know is its word of mouth from a disgruntled employee.
Definitely not something I expected from this content creator but then again I don't think this was meant to be a public thing. Like maybe a definite fetish and or fantasy of his that he paid someone to animate. But aside from that I do feel like the hate toward him for it makes no sense for it. Especially cause the 50k thing is not confirmed. I feel as though the twitter brain way of thinking is spreading to everyone and it's causing people to leap to the next big dogpile in such a ravenous manner.

arquila8000 said:
There are people who are down bad for fictional characters but this guy verbalase just reached a whole different level, my pfp should be a more than good response to the whole situation.

Btw am i the only who sees that some parts of the video look traced from the hh pilot? i don't if the ones who were paid tried to emulate the animation style used in the pilot or not but if that is the case then it's just sad.

It's not looks like are traced, they ARE traced

therozoic said:
This man is 40 years old btw

Holy Cow!

almost -300 is crazy

count_umbra said:
I.. I hate humans.
I reject my humanity jojo.

Become MONKE

If it was 50 or 100 dollars it would be a fair price
but not 1000x of that

I hope he gets roasted in the actual show

Using 50k to comission something like this is like buying a hummer: it doesn't tell people that you have a lot of money, it tells people you are an idiot.

Alright. Look.

My first impression from not knowing the entire context was that this YouTuber paid $50k in order to co-star in and help create (as a producer, a voice actor, a writer, and so on) an animated short film. A movie version of a fanfiction. One that involved him and Charlie Morningstar going through some kind of adventure. And then they'd be romantically linked.

If he had indeed done that, and failed in the sense that what he created made no sense but had a lot of genuine effort, being reminiscent of like Tommy Wiseau's The Room, then I'd still honestly sort of admire the guy. And the end result might actually be cool in a "so bad that it's good" way like (in my opinion) the hilarious 1960s era Adam West Batman media. And that first impression was wrong. Totally wrong.

This animated music video is terrible in a boring way. Not in a funny way. Not in an interesting way. In a lame and tedious way. Nothing about it works. The song doesn't fit with the events of what the two characters are doing as well as it should. The actual animation itself feels fundamentally just wrong compared to the show's art style. The way that they're both acting as characters is just... like... this is Anakin and Padme level incompetent direction and writing. I feel physically uncomfortable watching this clip. And it's so damn short. Not that I'd want any more of this dreck if I had a choice. I guess that's a bonus.

Still, honestly, I would be ashamed of paying anything for this. I would be ashamed of even being linked to this. Like, my God, I'm literally an individual known for fanfiction artworks and writing to an extent myself, much of which is very self-insert based. And I'd be disgusted at myself for being associated with this.

Dealing with the amount of money spent and coming to terms with that additional fact would break my brain. This isn't like paying for a Ford Mustang and getting a Mini Cooper instead. This is like paying for a BMW F Series and getting a rusted old tricycle.

Same vibe for this anim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88gzXFKCR1M

It has been a crazy start to the year with everything going on in Yemen, China, New York, and so on, but THIS and the story behind it is easily the craziest thing to happen so far.

squishyhorse said:
It has been a crazy start to the year with everything going on in Yemen, China, New York, and so on, but THIS and the story behind it is easily the craziest thing to happen so far.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Starting off 2024 with some cringekino

sad

Rip to the 50k

50k animation xD

Download before is taken down/delete.

This song is great, a shame every time i will hear it i will only remember verbalase wasting 50k for softcore porn of Charlie

bankrupt speedrun any%

Nothing more cringe spending $50k of your dwindling finances only for your self insert to be molested by a fictional character and posting it online for everyone to see.

Why are we here; just to suffer?

Fun fact: e621 has a legal counsel.
Like, imagine being asked what your occupation is on a first date and saying that you work for a digital hentai website filled with perverts and Furrys.

Regardless of the production budget, seriously, how can anyone support an animation without pornographic scenes and glorifying sex without consent ?
It's trash.

Errrm, what the deuce?

Never gonna look at Thanos beatbox the same way again after this one 🤦‍♂️

existing_user said:
When even furries are calling your self insert commission a waste of money, you've accomplished something in life.

Not something GOOD or anything, but it'll be in the history books.

repeating comment for the (you)s

Dont forget Murlogic the wonderbread guy called him out, Murlogic the guy so weird that Shadman refused a commission from him because he was "too creepy".

knot_gay said:
Fun fact: e621 has a legal counsel.
Like, imagine being asked what your occupation is on a first date and saying that you work for a digital hentai website filled with perverts and Furrys.

That might not be that saddest thing I ever heard but it's up there.

sillydraco said:
I hope he gets roasted in the actual show

It's a little to late because season one is done and season 2 has already been greenlit so I assume it's to late.

But if it makes you feel any better Vivziepop saw it and her reaction was "(nervous chuckle) What the fuck."

it's the beginning of 2024 and this guy gave us a good laugh hehehe

I like the song, it gives off serious yandere vibes, and I'm all for that

I'm trying to imagine the guy looking at this and going "yep 50k well spent". I can imagine the animator is pretty happy, its not bad work.

tsm said:
50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

I'd help pay off student loans for my family. That shit takes it toll.

gran_v said:
Regardless of the production budget, seriously, how can anyone support an animation without pornographic scenes and glorifying sex without consent ?
It's trash.

Not seeing the problem.

The former is literally just SFW content. That's a non-issue. Though the way I heard he phrased it, you'd definitely think it was more than what he got. Who knows, maybe he has a NSFW version just for himself?
The latter is very common both in drawn and irl stuff. forced has 83k pictures here alone.

Vaggie doesn't approve this video

softpastels2910 said:
Vaggie doesn't approve this video

She’s contacting IMP as we speak. XD this video and the situation surrounding it is funny as hell.

hellishwerewolf said:
It's a little to late because season one is done and season 2 has already been greenlit so I assume it's to late.

But if it makes you feel any better Vivziepop saw it and her reaction was "(nervous chuckle) What the fuck."

a reasonable response lol

Is this the famous 50k animation?

Lol

cargath said:
This looks like Your Favorite Martian, and is equally as embarrassing, if not more.

at least Your Favorite Martian has masterpieces like MY Balls, Tig ol Bitties, She looks like Sex and Bitch got a Penis.

Why are people reacting to this animation like it is the end of the world?

What does this guy's money have to do with them? I really can't understand why this happens!

I'm also super fucking confused at all the dislikes on the video, is Verbalase "canceled" or "bad" or "wrong" in some way for what he did with his own money?

Imagine paying 50k for a animation just for your boner to get fucking censored in it LMAOO

hey do you guys like nsma by kanye

PseudoFox said:
Alright. Look.

My first impression from not knowing the entire context was that this YouTuber paid $50k in order to co-star in and help create (as a producer, a voice actor, a writer, and so on) an animated short film. A movie version of a fanfiction. One that involved him and Charlie Morningstar going through some kind of adventure. And then they'd be romantically linked.

If he had indeed done that, and failed in the sense that what he created made no sense but had a lot of genuine effort, being reminiscent of like Tommy Wiseau's The Room, then I'd still honestly sort of admire the guy. And the end result might actually be cool in a "so bad that it's good" way like (in my opinion) the hilarious 1960s era Adam West Batman media. And that first impression was wrong. Totally wrong.

This animated music video is terrible in a boring way. Not in a funny way. Not in an interesting way. In a lame and tedious way. Nothing about it works. The song doesn't fit with the events of what the two characters are doing as well as it should. The actual animation itself feels fundamentally just wrong compared to the show's art style. The way that they're both acting as characters is just... like... this is Anakin and Padme level incompetent direction and writing. I feel physically uncomfortable watching this clip. And it's so damn short. Not that I'd want any more of this dreck if I had a choice. I guess that's a bonus.

Still, honestly, I would be ashamed of paying anything for this. I would be ashamed of even being linked to this. Like, my God, I'm literally an individual known for fanfiction artworks and writing to an extent myself, much of which is very self-insert based. And I'd be disgusted at myself for being associated with this.

Dealing with the amount of money spent and coming to terms with that additional fact would break my brain. This isn't like paying for a Ford Mustang and getting a Mini Cooper instead. This is like paying for a BMW F Series and getting a rusted old tricycle.

dude we aren't fucking reading that.

thataveragedude said:
I was about to say. I have spent $500 on high quality commissions before. If I am going to spend 100 times more, I expect at least three minutes of the utmost hot NSFW with Charlie Morningstar. What a waste of money, hahaha!

I'm curious what kind of commissions cost $500?

Cartoon Beatbox Battles died for this...

Firstly can we all agree the animators deserve praise? I mean this looks nice. Secondly anyone know if Vizi is going to sue? or if she needs money for that? and how much did he spend on this?

Not gonna lie, a SFW version of this that is just Charlie chasing/trying to capture him would go so hard.

solenoid4lyf said:
Why are people reacting to this animation like it is the end of the world?

What does this guy's money have to do with them? I really can't understand why this happens!

I'm also super fucking confused at all the dislikes on the video, is Verbalase "canceled" or "bad" or "wrong" in some way for what he did with his own money?

did you bother skimming through the comments at all

solenoid4lyf said:
Why are people reacting to this animation like it is the end of the world?

What does this guy's money have to do with them? I really can't understand why this happens!

I'm also super fucking confused at all the dislikes on the video, is Verbalase "canceled" or "bad" or "wrong" in some way for what he did with his own money?

Largely it's a combination of the cringe, the amount of money spent v. the nature of the final product, & basically the bad optics since this Youtuber prior to this leak basically came out begging his audience for money & that his channel was failing.

50K USD, no sex, short video 'n traced draws...

WOULD YOU RATHER:
1: get a cool fur-suit for 50K but nobody cares and you never get any attention for it
2: get a fucking animation like this for 50K and not only do you become infamous on the internet BUT you also get on the news for a WEEK straight
with 1 people irl and online still don't know anything too much about you
with 2 everybody knows about it and people you know irl think your weird but dont downright hate you
also with both of them you don't go bankrupt

I've seen God. And he's not happy with me. The one sin he can't forgive.

Verbalase Fans: Did Chase do it?

Verbalase: Yes...

Verbalase Fans: What did it cost?

Verbalase: Everything...

lol

I knew I came to the right post when I saw the amount of dislikes

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

Wait! Seriously!?

skyscraper24 said:
Wait! Seriously!?

Yes

Just think, most of us are lucky if we make anywhere between 2-5k a month. And this mf just drops 50k on a FUCKING SOFTCORE ANIMATION!!! Like others have said. He could've donated that and looked like a good guy. He could've probably comissioned someone to make actual porn animation with twice the video length and a full sex scene for way less. Or just did anything more useful with it! But no. It's not so much the lewdity or lack there of depending on which side you're coming from. It's the sheer disrespectful wastefulness of all that money.

*Huge missed opportunity in not being about a romance with Loona but oh well~*

prototype-0 said:
Just think, most of us are lucky if we make anywhere between 2-5k a month. And this mf just drops 50k on a FUCKING SOFTCORE ANIMATION!!! Like others have said. He could've donated that and looked like a good guy. He could've probably comissioned someone to make actual porn animation with twice the video length and a full sex scene for way less. Or just did anything more useful with it! But no. It's not so much the lewdity or lack there of depending on which side you're coming from. It's the sheer disrespectful wastefulness of all that money.

Or based on his own self-report about his declining view numbers & financial troubles he could have put that $50k into projects that he could have monetized & made money on. Animation is expensive so $50k is not an unrealistic figure my hot take is if your channel is floundering maybe don't drop $50k on a personal passion project that won't be able to recoup the costs if you can't afford it. Not the soundest of business strategies. :p

Kto bogatemu zabroni

I fail to see the issue with this, guy has a kink and he paid money to get it animated or drawn, nothing more than what we furries do much of the time, right?

fayeishelwood said:
I fail to see the issue with this, guy has a kink and he paid money to get it animated or drawn, nothing more than what we furries do much of the time, right?

we also don't have youtube channels with millions of views

I don't live in the US, I don't use Twitter/Facebook. Explain to me why you all dislike this video so much? And what 50,000 thousand dollars are we talking about? What happened?

(Using translator.)

shanti said:
I don't live in the US, I don't use Twitter/Facebook. Explain to me why you all dislike this video so much? And what 50,000 thousand dollars are we talking about? What happened?

(Using translator.)

The problem is, he said he needed money for his Youtube channel.

Then after he raised money, he bought this video for 50,000 USD.

He also paid too much.

An animation studio would only cost 10,000 and would be better quality.

He scammed his fans and paid too much for the video.

He tried to hide it, but now everyone knows.

That's why it's so sad, and funny.

50k for a literal softcore self-insert animation: I'm all for supporting artists but this feels like overkill

i checked around for some stuff and i found for 50K u can get stuff like
a cool luxury (golf) limo https://cartsnparts.com.au/product/ecar-lithium-627-8s-golf-cart/?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google
hot air balloons go for around 20000$-50000$
you can get a skid steer as well
and finally you can get 2736 lego yoda minifigures because they are being sold at 18.27 (including shipping) (price might change) right now https://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-yoda-minifigure-636813
please note i kinda half assed this and you can probably find better for 50K but i just wanted to see what he could have gotten instead i mean
the lego yodas would be kinda cool though

oh yeah also you can get 6664 among us figurines in a 4 pack with 50K
link to the store with among us ->https://toymate.com.au/among-us-action-figures-4-pack/[/spoiler]

damn, I wanna be in roku city too.

I get that its someone's own money and they can spend whatever the fuck they want on it and shit... but man, 50k for THAT? And I' curious, how much has someone spent on an art comission or an adoptable or a fursuit compared to this.

Okay, NORMALLY the only thing more cringe than posting this type of self-insert stuff, is canceling/dogpiling people for posting said cringe. However, this one also kinda bankrupted the guy and IIRC this guy posted a video asking for money either before or after (the timeline I've seen has been a tad inconsistent) this video was posted/found. The only good thing about this is that this animator won't have to worry about cash for a bit.

Personally, I would’ve just sprung for the full NC17 rating rather than tease — hell, I would’ve just bought a car in cash and paid off my student loans with $50,000 — but the man wanted his waifu in a music video and what he got was… decent? Passable. Probably could’ve commed minus8 or W.T. Dinner for way cheaper; I know they do mostly their own art styles, but they do great music video work.

hellishwerewolf said:
Dont forget Murlogic the wonderbread guy called him out, Murlogic the guy so weird that Shadman refused a commission from him because he was "too creepy".

You got a link to that? I was right there in the depths when I saw Satoasami coalesce from the aether in front of my very eyes, and the idea that he would have any qualms about this is baffling if not entertaining.

50 thousand dollars used to live in his bank account... now he's bankrupt

for a bruh moment, this is beyond bruh at this point.
what the actual fuck is wrong with that guy?

tsm said:
50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

I Wouldn't present the goofy boofiest goober PBS kids ahh oc to use as an animation model for one

Ngl, this was quite the giggle

idgi, why the downvotes? this isnt even close to some of the degenerate animations on this website.

FINALLY

I must say that this was a very well done animation. Certainly, it can't be criticized for lack of quality. That being said, what the actual fuck did I just watch, and why would anyone pay nearly an average annual salary's worth for this, especially if your primary source of revenue is faltering?

mfs actually being salty about some youtuber that nobody ass ever heard of before this shit came up making a stupid ass financial decision commissioning self insert r34 🤡 bitches he fucked no one over but his own ass. it aint y'all fuckin problem

50k btw

The 50K incident lol

Did not realise this was posted here... Huh.

Doesn't charlie look too human in this video?

heartpainz said:
idgi, why the downvotes? this isnt even close to some of the degenerate animations on this website.

the video is a monument of failure on its own merits

Why drop 50 grand on an animation!? For like two grand this guy could've been the murrlogic of Hazbin Hotel: commissioning entire galleries of Charlie buying wonderbread!

Funni beatbox guy

kenmasonnnn said:
mfs actually being salty about some youtuber that nobody ass ever heard of before this shit came up making a stupid ass financial decision commissioning self insert r34 🤡 bitches he fucked no one over but his own ass. it aint y'all fuckin problem

he did mention to his discord full of minors that this was a video that existed

kenmasonnnn said:
mfs actually being salty about some youtuber that nobody ass ever heard of before this shit came up making a stupid ass financial decision commissioning self insert r34 🤡 bitches he fucked no one over but his own ass. it aint y'all fuckin problem

In the past months, he asked his viewers for extra money twice.

In between that time, he confirmed at least 40,000 USD already spent on a, special project.

This was made in the middle of that time, and the leaker claims it cost more than 40,000 USD.

People who say, he did nothing wrong, are probably fans that don't want to admit, that they got scammed.

50K wasted but at least I found this banger

Dude went from beatboxin' to beatmeatin'.

I think the actual number from the Discord chat was $47k (not much better), but he said he spent $47k on a side project for Hazbin Hotel. We can assume it is this clip, but no one has real proof that this number is correct or that this single video is the only thing he spent that money on if he actually did.
Sure, $47k would be a lot of money, but without real evidence, you can only speculate.

Still, everyone just hears the buzzwords "$50k" and runs with it without any second guessing.
The biggest hype is not even the clip itself; it is just that it costs supposedly "$50k" and everyone thinks, Wow, what could I do with that much money? What a waste!
But be real, $50k going down the drain is usually not worthy mentioning nowadays (insert daily wasted $$$ headline here).

But hear me out. For a publicity stunt, this is somehow brilliant. Everyone is talking about him, the YouTube algorithm got a lot of traction, so people will watch and talk a lot about him and his old content too. He was saying multiple times his views were declining. There is nothing better than a scandal to get yourself relevant again.

As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Honestly the best thing to come out from all this is the memes

so... this is what it looks like 50k, WOW, what a waste

Why did he do it?

Sounds to me like the artist/animator got a sweet fucking deal. xD

You all are just jealous that this guy can spend 50k.

Update to the story for those that care to read:

Verbalase posted an apology video via Instagram and addressed a couple of the rumors that were being spread. I’m only focusing on the animation parts, if you want to know about the other drama stuff, watch the video.

Summary:

• He commissioned a studio to make this for him. This confirms that he did NOT contact a minor to make this, it also indirectly confirms the high price he paid for it (because professional studios are expensive), and it was commissioned in 2021 and completed in 2022.
• This was NOT for younger audiences. He originally planned to make a separate YouTube channel with mature content and uploaded this video as unlisted. However, he decided to back off from the idea and deleted both the video and the channel. He confirmed that someone (most likely from his Discord server) saw and downloaded the video while it was still unlisted (in order to view unlisted videos, you need the direct link), reuploaded it publicly on his birthday and tagged him in it. So when people searched for the video, they found it quickly through the tags.

thehuskyk9 said:
Update to the story for those that care to read:

Thanks, it is quite interesting to see the real story behind of this.

He never confirmed the price tag through... and thinking the clip is from 2021/2022 with a studio, 40k+ could be possible, but it seems even if that is true, the price tag did not ruin him till now, and he was not planning to actually release it, so at least now he got a lot of publicity out of that money. It seems not to be the best deal, but not the worst possible deal either, overall.

Imagine spending years and possibly thousands of dollars to hone your drawing techniques and applying to and finally landing a job at a big animation studio just to walk into work one day and find out you have to draw funny beatbox YouTuber man get blueballed against his will for like 3 minutes.

I really don't understand what is wrong with this video or why people are downvoting it. Some rich guy with 50k made a video with them in it, so what? I guess it could have been animated better for that amount of money but that is my only complaint. If you are going to spend 50k on a animation then at least make it look good. For 50k you can buy a brand new Tesla. No hate but the quality is not the same between the two.

Okay, I understand why people are giving this such negative feedback now.

Seriously, what the actual hell were they thinking?

Why are so many people taunting the artist? Y'all know that an artist don't draw perfectly from day one right?. They get better with time. And this animation it's really good. It looks really close to the show. And remember vivsipop uses teams of artist's doing difrent things. Seriously they did a very good work. And they got 50,k wich is a huge help to any artist

...Welp
It's animated well, I'll give it that.

I gotta know the thought process on this though, how would this have worked on the channel? What was the return value?

haljkljavahlibrz said:
*Huge missed opportunity in not being about a romance with Loona but oh well~*

This would result in people calling Verbalese Furry

rawhoney said:
I'm curious what kind of commissions cost $500?

https://e621.net/posts/2983608?q=dr.bubblebum+order%3Ascore

Worth it? Not worth it? I'll let you decide. For me, this was 100% worth it.

kenmasonnnn said:
mfs actually being salty about some youtuber that nobody ass ever heard of before this shit came up making a stupid ass financial decision commissioning self insert r34 🤡 bitches he fucked no one over but his own ass. it aint y'all fuckin problem

I agree, it's not anyone's problem. I wouldn't spend 50k on anything, let alone a cartoon. People act like its their own family involved in this when it's not anyone's issue to deal with. Everyone is getting pressed over an animation. I bet they would love to drop 50k on a smut cartoon with them in it if they had that kind of money to play around with. People act high and mightly and judgemental but when you're the one with the fat wallet then nobody can say anything to you because you can buy whatever you want. This guy did just that. I don't understand really what people's issue is with this. He's just some dude with 50k to throw around. "ahh, he fantasizes about cartoons!!!"... okay?

some_londoner said:
I agree, it's not anyone's problem. I wouldn't spend 50k on anything, let alone a cartoon. People act like its their own family involved in this when it's not anyone's issue to deal with. Everyone is getting pressed over an animation. I bet they would love to drop 50k on a smut cartoon with them in it if they had that kind of money to play around with. People act high and mightly and judgemental but when you're the one with the fat wallet then nobody can say anything to you because you can buy whatever you want. This guy did just that. I don't understand really what people's issue is with this. He's just some dude with 50k to throw around. "ahh, he fantasizes about cartoons!!!"... okay?

Well he was saying how he doesn't have enough money to fund the next part of his youtube content, and was asking for donations right before this. That's the scummy part, he literally asked for donations to continue making content, then casually drops 50k on a fetish commission. Either that, or he dropped 50k ahead of production, then asked for donations afterwords. It gives people the same feeling as if you watched the local homeless guy gambling 10 grand in the casino the day after you gave him some money.

This is now my first OFFICIAL downvote just to bring it to 666.

carnivore4lyf said:
This is now my first OFFICIAL downvote just to bring it to 666.

Congratulations on the 666th vote!👏😈

I made it have -666 carma

xenfox18 said:
Congratulations on the 666th vote!👏😈

Some fm liked this cuss I also got the 666th down vote...

sksjsjsjjs said:
This would result in people calling Verbalese Furry

He's already getting clowned for the price attached to this. Being called a furry is practically a footnote.

kippykip said:
...Welp
It's animated well, I'll give it that.

I gotta know the thought process on this though, how would this have worked on the channel? What was the return value?

It technically wouldn't work, it would be marked as inappropriate and demonetized.

He made this just for himself, but then someone leaked it.

I used to follow his videos, but I'm glad i didn't 'support' the channel. >.>

I think the majority of people's gripes with this animation is that this may very well have been funded by fans donations: What they originally were led to believe was money given to help keep his channel going and crowdfund newer projects, to then find out they all but effectively paid for someone's personal animation that no one would've seen or known about had it not gotten leaked. And especially given that this animation somehow cost $50k, even I find myself feeling skeptical about the whole thing.

espenebs said:
Why are so many people taunting the artist? Y'all know that an artist don't draw perfectly from day one right?. They get better with time. And this animation it's really good. It looks really close to the show. And remember vivsipop uses teams of artist's doing difrent things. Seriously they did a very good work. And they got 50,k wich is a huge help to any artist

It looks close to the show, because the people who animated it actually worked on the show.

But people are taunting the guy because he spent 50k (allegedly going bankrupt in the process) on a music video where his self insert, cartoon avatar gets sexually assaulted by the protagonist of Hazbin Hotel.

negamajora said:
It looks close to the show, because the people who animated it actually worked on the show.

But people are taunting the guy because he spent 50k (allegedly going bankrupt in the process) on a music video where his self insert, cartoon avatar gets sexually assaulted by the protagonist of Hazbin Hotel.

I'm asking why people taunt the artist too. Not about the guy who commissioned it

He spent 50K on a fanimation that doesn’t represent Charlie, Hazbin hotel or even Vivienne Medrano’s vision. A waste of good money.

Hell, I don’t even know why Verbalsese had to even make it based the music video on Hasbin Hotel, the licensing alone would’ve probably made it not worth it, yet If it had been something original, it would’ve been better received, cheaper and probably less cringy than what we got.

Honestly, just kinda sounds like your upset that you didn't have the money to make your own fanimation with your favorite character.

10011 said:
Honestly, just kinda sounds like your upset that you didn't have the money to make your own fanimation with your favorite character.

Neither did he, from what I've heard.

But, for what it's worth, I've made sure the smut I've commissioned made it to the general public. Keeping it to yourself just seems selfish.

No shade to the animator(s) and musician(s) (editors?) this is really well made.
But verbalase was ripped the fuck off, this is not 50 GRAND'S worth of content. Absolute worst-case scenario you'd pay like 5-10k. For 50 thousand the artist better turn into Charlie and fuck me themselves 💀

simon_says said:
No shade to the animator(s) and musician(s) (editors?) this is really well made.
But verbalase was ripped the fuck off, this is not 50 GRAND'S worth of content. Absolute worst-case scenario you'd pay like 5-10k. For 50 thousand the artist better turn into Charlie and fuck me themselves 💀

And its not like theres any sex either. If youre gonna pay 50 grand for this at LEAST make it an hour of the raunchiest shit ever, like come on

One of these days, someone’s gonna spend 50k on furry porn

Here are two forks, you could gouge out your eyes with them (please, after use, give them to the next person)

This is one of the moments of all time

pretty good

evab100 said:
One of these days, someone’s gonna spend 50k on furry porn

I mean people have already spent upwards of $10k on non-porn furry animations so we're not too far off.

this this the famous 50K$ animation?

Wow! Is clear that a LOT of effort was put into this and it's really good!
My only complaint would be how out of character Charlie is... for what happens here I'd say that Angel Dust or perhaps Nifty would be better fits. But even still it's awesome work!
^___^

Honestly, the only silver lining is that hideaway is a really good song

a single second of this video is worth 285$
i didn't pay anything and yet i feel scammed

I get all the drama behind this video but why is half the world downvoting this?

Wow it’s worse than I thought

Looks like someone did an oopsie and ruined their career in half a nanosecond.

Bruh every thought i had in this video is a comment in this post.

50k people have seen this atleast

The song is kind of a banger though

Oh is this the 50K vid?

I think it's the craziest waste of money this decade.

OMG THE DOWNVOTES IN THIS VIDEO XDDDDDDDDDDD

idk what's worse, that this video exists or that it's an example for the "reverse_rape" tag

Well, she is Lilith's daughter. She'll get what she wants one way or another.

kerasene said:
I think it's the craziest waste of money this decade.

True

谢谢，原作党已经被创死了（安详）

Let's be honest here for a moment.
Verbal Ace is a simp for Charlie.
We've all been there.
True, we wouldn't spend $50k for it, but remember, Ace is rich
The song slaps.
How many of you can say that you haven't spent alot of money on merchandise, figures and plushies?
Hell, even I own merchandise, figures and plushies.
I won't deny it.
I spent nearly $2000 on stuff that just sits on a shelf and collects dust.
Don't hate the guy for what he did.
He made a mistake, that's all.
It's not the end of the world.
Peace and love be with you all

Gonna save this in the "videos to shitpost with and torment my friends for the funni" bin lmao

50K and No Head is crazy

La mirada de los 50mil dólares

bdanimare said:
I keep seeing the figure get thrown around but I've never seen an actual source on it. I have a feeling it was actually $5k but $50k is so outlandish that people keep repeating it.

If they're anything like Furry YCHs then 50k on an animation is entirely possible

What a freakin jackass

"50k? Verbalase being chassed by that girl from hh? Well it can't be that bad..."

...Dear god...I was wrong...

it gets worse every time I watch it. the fact that the animator has some serious skill makes it that much worse

Nah verbalese didn't pay 50k for this softcore shit, I know the feds are hiding the uncensored cut. There is expensive footage of Charlie getting nutted in by verbalese it is real

So this is the infamous verbal last video, I got to admit if he's really paid $50,000 for this, this guy shot himself in the foot and tarnish his own dignity and social standing amongst the YouTube Community. He won't financially recover from this. 🤣🤣

Hello internet historian from 2076! I was here!

asherr said:
Just a reminder that verbalase spent near 50k on this animation...

True but the song is great

:(

50 Grand doesn't go as far as it used to.

The fact that he simped for a character who is 1. Not into sexual things and 2. who is lesbian. Oh and 3. Who's a cartoon character that he spent 50k for this shit. Idk if hes worst than a porn addict or what. For now Ill say yes till further notice.

I'm here to watch the excitement

horrorsbeyond44 said:
The fact that he simped for a character who is 1. Not into sexual things and 2. who is lesbian. Oh and 3. Who's a cartoon character that he spent 50k for this shit. Idk if hes worst than a porn addict or what. For now Ill say yes till further notice.

charlie is bisexual

I can't call it a waste, the animator deserved every penny. lmao

i can believe a youtuber i like who do something like this im heart broken

what is this doing here

monduc said:
Can we get the Downvote to 50K?

We're 1/50 down so far. Give it time though.

Animation is top tier and character design is matching absolutely the real cartoon quality. I don't understand why people downvoted this so badly ? And yes an animation of this level does actually cost a shit lot of money, what do you even expect.

Why are you hating on this ?

edit : Ah shit the guy asked for a insert of himself into this ... Welp, That's weird and shit, but I don't mind, I don't even know the guy

this is NOT Disney style animation

You paid 50k for some soft-core porn bro. That's hilarious.

Are people just downvoting this because of the circumstances around it rather than the actual quality? Man downvotes are useless

WOW I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY DOWNVOTES!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅

Ayo verbalase. Log out. You're done

50k... FOR A COMMISION😭😭😭

This would work better with Angel Dust.

wondered why this had so many downvotes and ended discovering quite the jewel of cringe lore
gosh darn I love internet.

You could've bought a decent car for 50k smh.

Frankly I'll say this. Best thing to come out of this controversy is the song itself. I've listened to the song by Angel Dust and it's been my go to song, its that damn good. Kinda whacky people care so much how somebody spends their money; a stupid waste, yeah, but it was never my money to lose.

If I had 50k I'd hire a woman to cosplay Charlie and smash all weekend. Way less expensive, and you got some actual poon.

NoNoNo not he fucking smiley face to hide his boner like this was private why have censorship tf

I may be irresponsible with money, but this is a different level

tsm said:
50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

OwO catto wif da gun! Ish sho cuwte but awso sho viscous! Aaaaa wha sould I doooo! I wanz to pettttttz!!

I don’t know what’s worse about all the money sunk into this; the lack of real porn or the fact he chose anyone other than loona for this

they got verbalase fucked up running through roku city

dackjaniels22 said:
I am Heavy Commissions Guy.

And this… is my commission.

She weighs 90.1 megabytes and displays a $50000 custom made animation at 3600 frames per minute.

It costs $3448 to play this commission… for twelve seconds.

laughter then followed by mouse wheel scroll
Oh my god, who did this, alright...
Who leaked my video!?

Some people think this was crazy, maybe
sniff
I have yet to see one crazier

more laughter
I am broke now!
oh, shit i'm broke

TF2 outro song

Well as someone who knows nothing about the random OC/self insert.

I can't understand all the hate this video has gotten because it is quite good. The expressions and gestures are very well animated and it flows really well with the music.

9.5/10

Derpixon would have done something better for 2 snicker bars and a packet of cigarettes

Charlie undressing herself and being all seductive at the end is actually really good, like the animation and body language is pretty quality in all honesty. It's just a shame she couldn't be doing it to someone else

tsm said:
50K... Man if I had 50K in my hands I wouldn't know what to do with it. Holding it would be nice.

Probably illegal unless it was for a short time and well documented reason.