mineru (tears of the kingdom and etc) created by ai assisted and shirokoma
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  • friedy said:
    First comment and already getting downvoted rightfully, what a good first impression.

    I'm sorry but this is most likely AI with a bit of paintover. Maybe AI assisted at least.

    Look at her dissolving toenails or the messed up looking beach on top of her head, it's all broken up between her ears instead of being in a straight line and it looks like this artist tried to fix it but because AI generated images have no layers, they had to try not to paint over her ears. I should probably also mention the left forearm disappearing into the sunbed. (could be a genuine mistake but AI loves to make limbs disappear in nonsensical ways)

    Looking at the most recent examples of this artist it seems like they just went the easy route and decided to start making AI assisted art which is a shame. I hope I'm wrong and this just has that AI feel and look to it but unless I see some timelapse or layers, I believe it is sadly AI.

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  • furvoo said:
    I'm sorry but this is most likely AI with a bit of paintover. Maybe AI assisted at least.

    Look at her dissolving toenails or the messed up looking beach on top of her head, it's all broken up between her ears instead of being in a straight line and it looks like this artist tried to fix it but because AI generated images have no layers, they had to try not to paint over her ears. I should probably also mention the left forearm disappearing into the sunbed. (could be a genuine mistake but AI loves to make limbs disappear in nonsensical ways)

    Looking at the most recent examples of this artist it seems like they just went the easy route and decided to start making AI assisted art which is a shame. I hope I'm wrong and this just has that AI feel and look to it but unless I see some timelapse or layers, I believe it is sadly AI.

    There previous work seems fine, so this might be a recent thing.

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  • umebosi1123 said:
    nice AI art

    In the Japanese furry, this person is famous for using AI-generate illustlations for money.
    as you can see from the past X media section, his illustlations are suddenly changed. The fingers and toes are often drawn in a messy.
    many people can't identify that it's an AI-based painting, or if they think it's okay to use an AI-based painting...

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  • This begs the question, are we supposed to feel equally angry toward AI assisted than toward straight up AI? One of them still has some work put into it.

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  • furvoo said:
    I'm sorry but this is most likely AI with a bit of paintover. Maybe AI assisted at least.

    Look at her dissolving toenails or the messed up looking beach on top of her head, it's all broken up between her ears instead of being in a straight line and it looks like this artist tried to fix it but because AI generated images have no layers, they had to try not to paint over her ears. I should probably also mention the left forearm disappearing into the sunbed. (could be a genuine mistake but AI loves to make limbs disappear in nonsensical ways)

    Looking at the most recent examples of this artist it seems like they just went the easy route and decided to start making AI assisted art which is a shame. I hope I'm wrong and this just has that AI feel and look to it but unless I see some timelapse or layers, I believe it is sadly AI.

    I actually scrolled down here because it looked like she has two pairs of panties? The garment around her ankles is a bit strange for a bra + wrapping around the ass rather than being discarded. Wasn't really expecting it would be (maybe?) because of ai.

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  • stormind said:
    This begs the question, are we supposed to feel equally angry toward AI assisted than toward straight up AI? One of them still has some work put into it.

    Ai isn't unethical because it's "lazy"
    Ai is unethical because it steals from existing artwork without permission or credit

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  • furvoo said:
    I'm sorry but this is most likely AI with a bit of paintover. Maybe AI assisted at least.

    Look at her dissolving toenails or the messed up looking beach on top of her head, it's all broken up between her ears instead of being in a straight line and it looks like this artist tried to fix it but because AI generated images have no layers, they had to try not to paint over her ears. I should probably also mention the left forearm disappearing into the sunbed. (could be a genuine mistake but AI loves to make limbs disappear in nonsensical ways)

    Looking at the most recent examples of this artist it seems like they just went the easy route and decided to start making AI assisted art which is a shame. I hope I'm wrong and this just has that AI feel and look to it but unless I see some timelapse or layers, I believe it is sadly AI.

    I didn't even know till I saw your comment... Fuckin' hell...

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  • stormind said:
    This begs the question, are we supposed to feel equally angry toward AI assisted than toward straight up AI? One of them still has some work put into it.

    I mean, yeah. Corporations are monsters without any morality or decency. Adobe is already doing sketchy stuff, trying to claim partial ownership over any art made with their software. Even if they want to use it to help develop their AI's algorithms, it still sets a very dangerous precedent where corporations are capable of claiming ownership over independent artists' works.

    It's easy to dismiss any critics as luddites and stubborn, but there are ethical issues that are to be examined with this technology, especially since it is replacing functions of culture itself for the benefit of corporations who refuse to regulate themselves in a manner beneficial with society.

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  • eranormus said:
    when did this decision got made?

    You can check date on 'Tag/Desc' or 'Events' History. They're under the tags. As I'm writing it, it's been 7 days.

    Updated

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  • kasloth said:
    Mairo removed it. Thats odd.

    Flag was hanging for literal weeks, that's usually sign that not even staff has any idea how to properly handle the situation at hand. In past usually happens with trace accusations where it's like close'sh but not actually.
    There has also now been several artists where many shout how AI was used, when it wasn't and that was just artists style and artist doing mistakes like artists sometimes do.

    The whole point of the guidelines is to provide structure of what's acceptable and what isn't, it's not hard set rules and technically speaking staff can make decisions leaning one way or another depending on situation and it's also not againts the actual rules.
    Reasoning for machine learning tools related stuff is that if it's done by third party then it's just ruining the original material and if it's by first party, then it's relatively meaningless for us in artistical value.
    Problem with some stuff is that we literally cannot know unless we get to artists computer or mind, which is usually impossible, so every evidence is zooming at pixels and speculating. With brand new artists it's bit easier to deal with but well established artists who are still doing similar style but has something changed, really hard.

    Nobody on staff has time for this and it's additionally mentally draining for many to deal with.
    Also "AI" is just a goddamn tool. Many artists still use google image search to get some nice backgrounds for their art, but that's additionally copyright infringement while text-to-image models are not. Similarly tracing someone elses artwork is plagiarism, but tracing over your own photograph is perfectly fine.
    That's also why even if there might be some parts that do look weird like beach, even if they machine generated that part, it would technically still be within lines and acceptable.

    Because of how technology has evolved, I can almost guarantee that there is several posts on this site that are purely machine text-to-image generated but nobody has noticed, but considering we also get thousands of uploads daily, that's is extremely small precentage of everything and shouldn't hurt anyone if they have been accepted mistakingly.

    Unless some other staff member wants to waste hours researching these three posts where two were flagged, I would not care too much into it at this point. Posts being flagged also clogs up flag queue where there can be much more urgent flags mixed like pirated material uploads.

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