asriel dreemurr and toriel (undertale (series) and etc) created by kabscorner
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    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

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    • The art stays relatively the same, it's pretty damn good, everything looks nice... and Toriel's expression on the 2nd panel is funny as hell!
    • The story is winding down, they covered a few things from the past, and now the pacing seems good. I'd say it's average to relatively good now, so that's alright... one-page-and-done blowjob seems a tad rushed however...

    Anyway, the page as a whole... well Toriel was knowm as the brains behind the kingdom, and it shows: already kinda grasped the concept of time travel... but there's no time for that! And... Asriel, you want her to melt on you? Easy with the determination there! And things are improving, about 40% there! Well... we'll see what comes next. Overall, it's pretty nice.

    Hiatuss said:
    I'd bet money Toriel is faking the whole "inexperienced". Milfs can get wild.

    Probably, either that, or Asriel is gonna trigger it on her soon enough...

    NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    I think I missed most of it but... wow, did it really get that crazy?
    If it is, this could easily go down as one of the most controversial Undertale comics here... I think I've also seen it happen outside as well...

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    Well, we have reached the porn by now, so at least half of the hands previously causing uproar will now be mercifully preoccupied.

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  • Well, if he felt so much stimulation that he even accidentally got it on one of her eyes (guess she was quick to close that one, though), then she probably did a really good job... just saying. He has little reason to complain, in my opinion.

    P.S. Tagged "white_fur", "blush", and "eyes_closed", so here's probably even more that can be put on this image.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    What surprised me was that upon looking at the same page in FurAffinity none of said arguments were ever present.
    The top comment is "*nosebleed* Asriel dick..."

    -Frazzledragon said:
    That was a bit quick to orgasm.

    LOGIC IS BAD!!!

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  • Imabot said:
    Toriel you know damn well you didn't break the spell yet.

    Hey, she's already got enough mayonnaise on her face to even make a Texas prom queen blush... so be nice to cutie goat-mom.

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  • MultiversalParadox said:
    I think I missed most of it but... wow, did it really get that crazy?
    If it is, this could easily go down as one of the most controversial Undertale comics here... I think I've also seen it happen outside as well...

    If you want you could go read all 493 comments or read war and peace whatevers faster.

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  • In reality I think she is more experienced than he is. I mean he cum pretty damn quick!
    ...Unless she is a natural anyway.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:
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    wow, can't say i've seen an admin lay down the law preemptively like that before. big red text at that. understandable though, given how the past 4 pages went.

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  • I am waiting for the alternate page four where the annoying dog cock-blocks Asriel. Dogsong plays in the background. Panel seven is just Alphys shouting curses as she watches a video feed without any pants on.

    I guess I have no idea how that would actually be accomplished, though. I suppose the dog could... steal his dick? Maybe there could be a bone pun. I guess it's not that good of an idea.

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  • Wait, if Toriel gets truly determined... Won't she turn into goo cause her physical form wouldn't be able to handle it? >_>

    And besides that, if in the end they do kill Frisk like people say... Does it even matter since it's the player who plays the game that ultimately decides everything? Like Dark Souls, the player's character only truly becomes Hollow when they stop playing the game ._.

    OOooh noes, the plotholes~! Fleeeee!

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  • Aponymous2 said:
    Seriously?

    The only people causing "drama" and being not-civil were the ones crying "OMG STOP WHINING OMG IT'S JUST PORN STOP COMPLAINING"; the ones criticizing were being quite civil, for the most part.

    Like really, I'm not understanding why people are calling it drama and such...a few people posted valid, polite criticisms of the writing, others responded with insults and cries of "stop whining", and then the rest of the comments section filled up with people pointing and sneering at "the drama".

    There were enough people on all sides that went far beyond what was acceptable, as is mirrored by metric ton of records and bans we handed out.
    Also, with no word did I single out giving criticism as being the drama or causing the drama.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    Aww, I almost had enough text walls to build a 20 car garage next to my mansion. Guess i'll just settle for a 5 car...

    And some good ol' fashioned drama free porn! A fair tradeoff indeed!

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    Why does Toriel sound like one of those japanese-hentai incest mothers who point out the obvious most of the time or have to express their every thought out loud? Probably just to sake our desire to get to the porn so the fanatics don't get, well, fanatic.

    and i know this will get flagged REGARDLESS of how 'respectful' I seem to be, because the filter for what is considered 'harassment' or 'going beyond' has pretty much devolved into 'if it has lots of comments, it will now have no comments, one way or another'.

    I've always see this breaching of a mods power too many times to count. On game forums, on fan forums, on music forums, all too often when someone gets that power to silence someone for something they said that they don't like, they always abuse that power, and they will always go on to say that their word is final and true and just simply because "Moderator" is behind their name. And there's no stopping them from continuing that behavior, because the Moderator Staff will go out of it's way to defend other mod's 'ban spamming' behavior to the death, because of the private conflict of interest hand shaking that goes on in betwixt each of these kinds of forums. Does it differ that this website isn't 'considered' a forum? Not likely, from what I've seen of current behaviors from word to stupid word. But I've trailed too far away from the point of this comic, and I know that me 'criticising' the behavior of the mods will get me flagged for 'harassment of the mods', only justifying the behavior further.

    No one gives a fuck. Damn

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    I've always see this breaching of a mods power too many times to count. On game forums, on fan forums, on music forums, all too often when someone gets that power to silence someone for something they said that they don't like, they always abuse that power, and they will always go on to say that their word is final and true and just simply because "Moderator" is behind their name. And there's no stopping them from continuing that behavior, because the Moderator Staff will go out of it's way to defend other mod's 'ban spamming' behavior to the death, because of the private conflict of interest hand shaking that goes on in betwixt each of these kinds of forums. Does it differ that this website isn't 'considered' a forum? Not likely, from what I've seen of current behaviors from word to stupid word. But I've trailed too far away from the point of this comic, and I know that me 'criticising' the behavior of the mods will get me flagged for 'harassment of the mods', only justifying the behavior further.

    So you're acting out against moderators because you're already convinced that they're in the wrong? And if they retaliate, your point will be proven?

    lol, kid, sit down before you hurt yourself

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    Fuck yes, conduct gods shall end the shitposting!

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    Um, not trying to be rude or start trouble but isn't that a tad extreme? seems a bit too far to say that a specific post is now off limits for discussion since drama is very up for interpretation. Just seems like it makes this a hostile comment area where you can't feel safe to say anything at all now.

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  • CandleJake said:
    Don't worry so much. We'll be a hugbox just like FA before too long. And then everyone will just be happy and positive and just get along all the time!!

    Hell no

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    Also where the fuck have you been the past week.

    Think of all the Asriel-Stuff i posted hoping to trigger you :C

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  • Alright, it's nice that the cataclysmic shitposting about the comic is over, but there might still be the aftershock of shitposting about the shitposting.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    So much for not taking the internet seriously....

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    Why does Toriel sound like one of those japanese-hentai incest mothers who point out the obvious most of the time or have to express their every thought out loud? Probably just to sake our desire to get to the porn so the fanatics don't get, well, fanatic.

    and i know this will get flagged REGARDLESS of how 'respectful' I seem to be, because the filter for what is considered 'harassment' or 'going beyond' has pretty much devolved into 'if it has lots of comments, it will now have no comments, one way or another'.

    I've always see this breaching of a mods power too many times to count. On game forums, on fan forums, on music forums, all too often when someone gets that power to silence someone for something they said that they don't like, they always abuse that power, and they will always go on to say that their word is final and true and just simply because "Moderator" is behind their name. And there's no stopping them from continuing that behavior, because the Moderator Staff will go out of it's way to defend other mod's 'ban spamming' behavior to the death, because of the private conflict of interest hand shaking that goes on in betwixt each of these kinds of forums. Does it differ that this website isn't 'considered' a forum? Not likely, from what I've seen of current behaviors from word to stupid word. But I've trailed too far away from the point of this comic, and I know that me 'criticising' the behavior of the mods will get me flagged for 'harassment of the mods', only justifying the behavior further.

    Yup, that's mainly because once someone reaches a certain level of "popularity" somewhere they tend to get preferential treatment which ironically creates more drama. Which in turn simply feeds the ego of the person unable to handle the "shitposting" that tends to come with the territory of creating content. This is the norm even actual celebrities must deal with and they've learned to pretty much ignore it; like a mature adult would.

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  • LexGoyle said:

    Yup, that's mainly because once someone reaches a certain level of "popularity" somewhere they tend to get preferential treatment which ironically creates more drama. Which in turn simply feeds the ego of the person unable to handle the "shitposting" that tends to come with the territory of creating content. This is the norm even actual celebrities must deal with and they've learned to pretty much ignore it; like a mature adult would.

    Why do i have the Feeling you´re talking about someone in particular?

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  • -1stupidname- said:
    Why do i have the Feeling you´re talking about someone in particular?

    It does apply to comments section of this image, yup but the statement applies in general to people who attain popularity and cannot handle the more negative aspects that come with popularity and rather than not let text on the internet rile them up they'll simply call in an admin to deal with hurt feelings. The writer behind this piece is one of a handful of examples in the furry fandom that react this way. Thankfully though most others are able to shrug it off and move on with their day.

    But I can't help but to feel like I'm back in high school where the jock is throwing a tantrum because not everyone is nice to him since he is the star of the team in his own mind and gets the principal to start handing out detention for "harassment" of their prized player.

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  • Knotty_Curls said:
    So you're acting out against moderators because you're already convinced that they're in the wrong? And if they retaliate, your point will be proven?

    lol, kid, sit down before you hurt yourself

    If they decide to flag my comment down for 'harassment', yes, it does prove my point that moderators abuse their power, because as much as 'code of conduct' gets thrown left and right, every moderator has their own interpretation of what is considered 'code of conduct', ala, harassment is of someone making strong opinions about a comic. Excuse me if I haven't swallowed the SJW suppository, but I think Harassment qualifies as someone just throwing insults at an artist and making derogatory statements, not FUCKING CRITICISM.

    If ANYONE dare tries to respond to a mod in a strident way, BOOM, ban. doesn't matter how topical or relevant the points they make out, because the mod is automatically right and you're automatically wrong.

    If a mod wants to challenge the validity of the points that I'm making, that is fine. I don't want to be threatened with bans because I want to speak my fucking mind. And isn't threatening people who speak their mind with bans considered 'harassment'? Yes, and how ironic it is when the harassers get to harass and call other people harassers.

    I get banned because I make a response to someone taking my words out of context and assuming that I was like the other people criticisng the 'accuracy' of the source material, throwing me under the rug when I defended his right to interpret the source material in anyway he see fit. Is that fucking harassment to you?

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  • Calcifer said:
    Um, not trying to be rude or start trouble but isn't that a tad extreme? seems a bit too far to say that a specific post is now off limits for discussion since drama is very up for interpretation. Just seems like it makes this a hostile comment area where you can't feel safe to say anything at all now.

    EXACTLY, MY, POINT. I personally don't like how people get too speculative about how the events could unfold relative to the comic, but I also don't like someone pointing the gun on any discussion about the comic just because the prior pages got filled with 'shitposting'. Where was our 'safe space' mods to stop the 'mean and nasty' comments on Man's Best Friend With Benefits? Where were they to send bans like wavers to TheFeminineSangheli's entire portfolio of animations? Where were they to stop the barrage of people criticising the infamous BLTN? Oh yeah, that's right, NOWHERE. Isn't it great to not practice what you preach. If bans are acceptable based on the broad declarations of 'shitposting', then why stop there? Why not just stop any discussion on a comic because it could lead to 'shitposting'? Where do you draw the line?

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    If they decide to flag my comment down for 'harassment', yes, it does prove my point that moderators abuse their power, because as much as 'code of conduct' gets thrown left and right, every moderator has their own interpretation of what is considered 'code of conduct', ala, harassment is of someone making strong opinions about a comic. Excuse me if I haven't swallowed the SJW suppository, but I think Harassment qualifies as someone just throwing insults at an artist and making derogatory statements, not FUCKING CRITICISM.

    If ANYONE dare tries to respond to a mod in a strident way, BOOM, ban. doesn't matter how topical or relevant the points they make out, because the mod is automatically right and you're automatically wrong.

    If a mod wants to challenge the validity of the points that I'm making, that is fine. I don't want to be threatened with bans because I want to speak my fucking mind. And isn't threatening people who speak their mind with bans considered 'harassment'? Yes, and how ironic it is when the harassers get to harass and call other people harassers.

    I get banned because I make a response to someone taking my words out of context and assuming that I was like the other people criticisng the 'accuracy' of the source material, throwing me under the rug when I defended his right to interpret the source material in anyway he see fit. Is that fucking harassment to you?

    The admins here took no sides. Nobody got records for criticism - the artists reported some people for criticizing, sure, but no records were given.

    If you take a look, one of the artists was given a negative record for their conduct. Nobody is exempt from the rules.

    This isn't FurAffinity. Administration here is professional. If you ever have an issue with any of the volunteer admins, you can message a higher-up admin. Til then, you're arguing against an issue that doesn't exist on this site.

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  • DoctorPeas said:
    I am waiting for the alternate page four where the annoying dog cock-blocks Asriel. Dogsong plays in the background. Panel seven is just Alphys shouting curses as she watches a video feed without any pants on.

    I am so doing this

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    If they decide to flag my comment down for 'harassment', yes, it does prove my point that moderators abuse their power, because as much as 'code of conduct' gets thrown left and right, every moderator has their own interpretation of what is considered 'code of conduct', ala, harassment is of someone making strong opinions about a comic. Excuse me if I haven't swallowed the SJW suppository, but I think Harassment qualifies as someone just throwing insults at an artist and making derogatory statements, not FUCKING CRITICISM.

    If ANYONE dare tries to respond to a mod in a strident way, BOOM, ban. doesn't matter how topical or relevant the points they make out, because the mod is automatically right and you're automatically wrong.

    If a mod wants to challenge the validity of the points that I'm making, that is fine. I don't want to be threatened with bans because I want to speak my fucking mind. And isn't threatening people who speak their mind with bans considered 'harassment'? Yes, and how ironic it is when the harassers get to harass and call other people harassers.

    I get banned because I make a response to someone taking my words out of context and assuming that I was like the other people criticisng the 'accuracy' of the source material, throwing me under the rug when I defended his right to interpret the source material in anyway he see fit. Is that fucking harassment to you?

    Your record 10 days ago was for continuing to argue when you were told to sit down and shut up, the one 9 days ago was because you a) still continued arguing with people when we told you to shut up and b) for calling another admin 'dipshit'.
    Please get the facts straight before posting.

    Edit: You can also respond to multiple comments at the same time, you don't have to make 3 separate comments directly below each other.

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    If they decide to flag my comment down for 'harassment', yes, it does prove my point that moderators abuse their power, because as much as 'code of conduct' gets thrown left and right, every moderator has their own interpretation of what is considered 'code of conduct', ala, harassment is of someone making strong opinions about a comic. Excuse me if I haven't swallowed the SJW suppository, but I think Harassment qualifies as someone just throwing insults at an artist and making derogatory statements, not FUCKING CRITICISM.

    If ANYONE dare tries to respond to a mod in a strident way, BOOM, ban. doesn't matter how topical or relevant the points they make out, because the mod is automatically right and you're automatically wrong.

    If a mod wants to challenge the validity of the points that I'm making, that is fine. I don't want to be threatened with bans because I want to speak my fucking mind. And isn't threatening people who speak their mind with bans considered 'harassment'? Yes, and how ironic it is when the harassers get to harass and call other people harassers.

    I get banned because I make a response to someone taking my words out of context and assuming that I was like the other people criticisng the 'accuracy' of the source material, throwing me under the rug when I defended his right to interpret the source material in anyway he see fit. Is that fucking harassment to you?

    If someone followed around a fat person and kept telling them how they could lose weight, that would be considered harassment. People kept trying to talk about what they don't like about the comic when they didn't need to. Its alright to have an opinion but some people in the comment section kept criticizing it but if they disliked it that much, they should have just stopped reading. Its like sitting in the movie theater and constantly talking about what you don't like about the movie.

    Also, You talk about challenging the mod and saying you have valid points but that is like argueing with your boss or a teacher. You shouldn't question their power in front of other people because it just makes things worst. Maybe see if you can't pm that mod or something and explain yourself but overall, that is still their right to do what they want. They were given that right and can ban anyone to everyone if they wanted to. The only person who can question that is the other mods and who ever is equal or higher in power. It is their site, so its not like they even have to respect your opinion on the matter.

    Its also not harassment because they were simply trying to put out the fire but you were (maybe even accidentally) stoking the fire. Again, its like a movie theater. If you are talking about what you don't like while other people are simply trying to enjoy it will get you kicked out of the movie theater. He also never said you couldn't speak your mind but simply don't stoke the fire but you went ahead and stoked that fire by talking about how the mods abuse their power which means it wouldn't surprise me if you did get banned.

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  • Knotty_Curls said:
    The admins here took no sides. Nobody got records for criticism - the artists reported some people for criticizing, sure, but no records were given.

    Bullshit. I got a record for my comment a few pages back. As I recall, I called the artist a bad name because he was creatively censoring Asriel's dick all over that page like a literal cocktease.

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  • CandleJake said:
    Bullshit. I got a record for my comment a few pages back. As I recall, I called the artist a bad name because he was creatively censoring Asriel's dick all over that page like a literal cocktease.

    Are you really surprised you got a record for calling someone 'a fucking asshole'?

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  • You know I have to wring this out as a first post because this is just hilarious.

    To Someoneelse229 and those of similar ilk:

    If you wanted to produce a meaningful exchange with the artist you could easily do that, but you're doing a piss poor job at hiding behind the banner of "your opinion" and being an abrasive little ass about things that you could choose to present (and even with the same forcefulness) in a way that isn't disruptive.

    But you aren't.

    If you are in fact that passionate about these four pages of a comic strip such that you wax long and stale through harangues about everything from the actual work to the social inequality of an online web-space - you WOULD take the time to present your views with a lot more care so that their product (come what may) was CONSTRUCTIVE. That is why we even bother to critique in artistic pursuits.

    But I'm going to say you don't give a damn about improving the comic - all you want to do is hear your own shrill monologue about "unfairness." Get your own shots of interwebs fame (that you complain about) by being the "V for Vendetta" representative of your own illusory downtrodden masses wailing about the corruptness of "the system." Holy thisisagreatwaytogetattention and not simper and beg for it.

    But we aren't fooled. It's all about you, and it has been since this started. You have an axe to grind, and everyone needs to know.

    Now that that's out of the way - yay porn.

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  • CandleJake said:

    Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware this was a family-friendly website. I'll be sure to keep my insults to a PG level in any future comments.

    Or you could act like an adult. You know a productive one who understands freedom of speech is not the same as having no consequence for being drunk with pride and rude.

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  • Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Not sure what to make of it, but the heart thing...

    Something is happening.

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  • Matt said:
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Not sure what to make of it, but the heart thing...

    Something is happening.

    Compassion is restoring Asriel's soul. If I try to logic it the admins will strike me.

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  • FoxyBomb said:
    Compassion is restoring Asriel's soul. If I try to logic it the admins will strike me.

    If you can explain it in a civil manner without any interspersed attacks then nothing will happen.

    CandleJake said:

    Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware this was a family-friendly website. I'll be sure to keep my insults to a PG level in any future comments.

    Almost any insults can get you banned because -surprise surprise- we expect people to behave like adults.

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  • I apologize beforehand if the following comment offends anyone, however I would like to state what I think of the situation. Please feel free to skip over my comment if you wish.

    To be honest I'm tired of idiots who act like adults believing that they can say whatever shit they want and get away with it. I can understand critiquing work, but if you continue to critique the exact same things the same way over and over, it still counts as fucking harassment. You're not fooling anybody.
    I'm also very glad that the admins are also fed up with the bullshit and aren't putting up with it anymore. Frankly I'm counting down to when someone crosses the line and they choke a bitch, so I know when to grab popcorn and enjoy the show. The people here generally are decent guys and gals, but even nice people have to bear their teeth now and again so to speak, especially when self-righteous antagonizing twats decide they know better and start slinging shit like children. Do us all a favor you sorry sacks of sarcastically saccharine dickheads, and take the time to consider if posting bullshit just to keep a feud going is worth it. Because I certainly don't. And apparently neither do the admins or most of the other people here.
    THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. THAT INCLUDES ON THE INTERNET.
    And no I haven't read those comments. I'm going off of what I read here on this page, so I also apologize if I seem hypocritical. I'm just sick and fucking tired of people thinking it's ok to say whatever the fuck they want to just because we can't see who they are. Guess what assholes? I don't care who you are. To me you are the embodiment of what is wrong with the Internet. And whatever you say isn't worth the time you took to post it. My rant is over, so if I violated conduct, I will gladly take whatever punishment is merited for my wrongs.

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  • Dragonlayer said:
    i cant stand the dialogue but thats just me

    It almost makes me want to rewrite all the dialogue and shoop it into there, but I can't be bothered. But at least change Toriel's "can't" to "cannot", for shit's sake.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    your profile picture and that comment dont work together...

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  • MistaMarluxiaXIII said:
    Oh God. Shut up. Just shut the fuck up. I swear. I am going to murder you all.

    (Sry Admins)

    Insulting admins = not a very good idea

    MistaMarluxiaXIII said:
    ME! Me wanna!

    Also where the fuck have you been the past week.

    Think of all the Asriel-Stuff i posted hoping to trigger you :C

    Second.
    Im in poland vacation and they still havent installed my gpu in the online shop where i have bought my computer.

    3 weeks.... for a gpu?
    Alright. ...... imo quit my job

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    Get your popcorn here for the comment war
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    I'd chuckle if you would get accused of advertising for this (not meant in a mean way or anything).

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    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    What happened!?!? I come back to a new page and then this and.... you know what, don't want to know, just want to enjoy the good art these two make.

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  • hot damn i want more of this comic cause this is just fucking amazing i love when wincest just takes something like this and makes it so fucking hot

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  • I like how after the mods crack down, some of the other side of this scratched and dented coin think they can get away with lashing out. It's a neverending cycle--maybe it's time to break it and let the whole thing drop, chums.

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  • What I love about this whole thing is that an admin clearly stated that any further criticism will result in punishment, and a fucking riot ensues.

    Seriously, am I in Paris or something?

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  • OliCoon said:
    What I love about this whole thing is that an admin clearly stated that any further criticism will result in punishment, and a fucking riot ensues.

    Seriously, am I in Paris or something?

    Nah, criticism is fine. The problem is when people start pouring their salt all over the comment section and making it taste awful.

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  • Rudest_Raptor said:
    Nah, criticism is fine. The problem is when people start pouring their salt all over the comment section and making it taste awful.

    Yeah. but seriously, it seems that NotMeNotYou saying that only sparked a worse version of the previous 4 pages.

    I'm actually wondering if I should create a "comment_riot" tag for this kind of thing.

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  • OliCoon said:
    Yeah. but seriously, it seems that NotMeNotYou saying that only sparked a worse version of the previous 4 pages.

    I'm actually wondering if I should create a "comment_riot" tag for this kind of thing.

    There's already a lol_comments tag, I'd say leave it at that. As for the message sparking another riot, I dunno. When people really want to be heard they're gunna make sure that you hear them loud and clear. Stuff like that harkens back to stuff I've seen in school. Yelling only provokes even more yelling for some people, it's just how some people respond to that sort of thing.

    It also doesn't help that people just don't care. Better to take the problem into a private discussion with the person considering the last pages had multiple warnings. All in all, the comment sections are just gunna get quieter and quieter at this point.

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  • The writing bothers me, but who am I to judge?
    I am just that guy who so far enjoys the comments more than the comic.

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  • OliCoon said:
    What I love about this whole thing is that an admin clearly stated that any further criticism will result in punishment

    He clearly did NOT say that - the word was "drama", not "criticism".

    It is very possible to state your criticism or critique in a manner that only inspires drama in people who create drama to begin with.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:
    Are you really surprised you got a record for calling someone 'a fucking asshole'?

    Yet, when someone responds to someone's criticism with "No one gives a fuck", the admin ignores it and says it's not breaking any rules.

    Hooray for bias!

    Qwazzy said:
    He clearly did NOT say that - the word was "drama", not "criticism".

    It is very possible to state your criticism or critique in a manner that only inspires drama in people who create drama to begin with.

    Except on the previous page, a good amount of people DID state their criticism in a very calm and collected manner, and were still met with passive aggressive insults and cries of "STOP WHINING, IT'S JUST PORN, STOP WHINING!!!"

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  • Aponymous2 said:
    Yet, when someone responds to someone's criticism with "No one gives a fuck", the admin ignores it and says it's not breaking any rules.

    Hooray for bias!

    "No one gives a fuck" isn't an insult.

    Aponymous2 said:
    Except on the previous page, a good amount of people DID state their criticism in a very calm and collected manner, and were still met with passive aggressive insults and cries of "STOP WHINING, IT'S JUST PORN, STOP WHINING!!!"

    The people who constructively criticized received neither records, nor bans.

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  • NotMeNotYou said:
    "No one gives a fuck" isn't an insult.

    On what planet is "Nobody gives a fuck" NOT an insult?

    NotMeNotYou said:The people who constructively criticized received neither records, nor bans.

    That's......not what I was referring to, at all.

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  • I find it amusing how polarizing the mods can be in regards to the criticism of one comic against another.

    Let's just take Kabier's two most recent comics as an example, since I've barked on those as of late, and start with Man's Best Friend With Benefits. I've made a comment on roughly every other if not every page describing my disdain for the poor dialogue, poor narrative structure, and horrible characters, and not ONCE was I 'warned' with 'filtering' my criticism of it. Ironically enough, GarethGabelcoque of all people got flagged for essentially saying what I said in his own words about the comic around the last page Kabier made before going to Love or Not Be Loved.

    And now to that comic. I get a warning about a response I made to someone about how I reiterated how I don't care about source accuracy, since they mentioned a game mechanic of Undertale that I'm not fully aware of and thus don't factor in, and that entailed to another record because I made a response to Jason (but not to the same person), debasing my arguments, taking my words out of context, and throwing me under the rug. Sure, I got flagged BECAUSE apparently I 'continued' drama, but isn't Jason just as guilty of the crime of committing that? Not only that, but after page four the mods have pretty much put any potential commenter's account at gunpoint if they want to talk about the comic on the surface, which I TRIED TO DO, by saying how Toriel's dialogue sounds kinda dopey. Fuck me, I haven't been NEARLY as ANGRY at this comic as I was with MBFWB, and yet I get a record because someone wants to defame my argument and character and I won't sit idly by and let them live in that presumption?

    And then it comes full circle of how mods have a very subjective opinion of 'insult', IE, me calling someone a dipshit once on one response (who isn't a Admin) because they wouldn't hear me out when I told them time and time again that my original comment was a joke, YET, when someone completely disregards EVERYTHING I SAY with 'no one gives a fuck', do the mods cry foul? Nope, they don't even THINK it's an insult, AT ALL.

    I'm not asking you to be the thought police, but if you are going to flag me for calling a non-admin a dipshit once on one occasion, at least be CONSISTENT with your BEHAVIOR.

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  • Dark_w0lf said:
    If someone followed around a fat person and kept telling them how they could lose weight, that would be considered harassment. People kept trying to talk about what they don't like about the comic when they didn't need to. Its alright to have an opinion but some people in the comment section kept criticizing it but if they disliked it that much, they should have just stopped reading. Its like sitting in the movie theater and constantly talking about what you don't like about the movie.

    I'm not trying to trivialize the definition of harassment, and the cognitive dissonance between me criticizing the writing of a comic book and someone's weight is that one is a judgment of merit and the other is a judgment of person or character.

    Why don't people 'need to' have criticisms about a comic? It's the only way a author or writer can improve themselves, because if they only get criticism from themselves or people close in their life it will either be self-serving or self-destructive. Another false dichotomy about someone complaining at a movie theater and someone typing comments on a website is that you CAN ignore the comments. The movie theater is something you paid for that is being played in one stream that can't be paused or play backed, but here, you can enjoy the comic entirely and disregard everything I have to say as long or as many times as you please. You made the decision to hear me out on what I have to say, it's not my fault that what I have to say bothers you.

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    Also, You talk about challenging the mod and saying you have valid points but that is like argueing with your boss or a teacher. You shouldn't question their power in front of other people because it just makes things worst.

    I've made criticisms to my boss at work, as does everyone else, and everyone at my work thinks he's a great boss. As I said, constructive criticism can make a better person. I haven't had to fear for my wages or the schedule of my job, unless I called him a dipshit or a fag based on nothing but an emotional reaction.

    Dark_w0lf said: Maybe see if you can't pm that mod or something and explain yourself but overall, that is still their right to do what they want.

    I actually just might do that to give them some perspective of the kinds of 'experiences' I've had on previous forums, so they know why I'm extremely defensive towards them.

    Dark_w0lf said: They were given that right and can ban anyone to everyone if they wanted to. The only person who can question that is the other mods and who ever is equal or higher in power. It is their site, so its not like they even have to respect your opinion on the matter.

    So the only people who can question the power of a mod is another person who gave them that power in the first place? How are we to better the mods if they don't want to hear anyone out? And I don't expect them to respect my opinion, but I do expect them to let my opinion be out on display, for people to mock if i'm full of shit.

    Dark_w0lf said:Its also not harassment because they were simply trying to put out the fire but you were (maybe even accidentally) stoking the fire. He also never said you couldn't speak your mind but simply don't stoke the fire but you went ahead and stoked that fire by talking about how the mods abuse their power which means it wouldn't surprise me if you did get banned.

    I cut out the parts where you bring up the horrible movie theater analogy. Anyway, if a mod decides to put everyone's opinions up for the death knell because of the actions of certain people in previous pages, I think that was the mods 'stoking the fire'. I wouldn't have brought up the mods if NotMeNotYou totally 'took the internet seriously'. I would've just said that Toriel's dialogue is dopey and leave it at that, because at least that's something I can see. Although then again, this is more of a chicken and egg theory, since I 'got a record' on the previous page that was almost irrelevant to the point of the comic.

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  • FeuerSeife said:
    Insulting admins = not a very good idea

    Second.
    Im in poland vacation and they still havent installed my gpu in the online shop where i have bought my computer.

    3 weeks.... for a gpu?
    Alright. ...... imo quit my job

    But i didn't aimed for the admins, i just knew I'd get banned for RL-Threats, so i apologized for the comment D:

    Actually I meant everyone else .__.

    And before i get banned a second time, no, i didn't mean it for real, i just was really, really drunk that evening.

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  • ..d...do anyone know why this war comment thing still going on..?i don't see any reason behind this anymore...?

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  • Rahsaan said:
    ..d...do anyone know why this war comment thing still going on..?i don't see any reason behind this anymore...?

    People taking offense and being extremely prideful about their opinions. I have no clue where it started exactly, but it didn't help with people (including the artists) making certain statements that peeved users / fans. Some of them rightfully so (Just pure criticism), but a lot of people really love to attack or insult others (Not just artists) and spur into inane arguments of backwater shit. That combined with natural drama sparks in this community and people spiral out of control and non-stop argue and point things out.

    Regardless, like many others I like the art and don't really care for the story / text. Never really got into the porn commentary unless it's lewd as fuck and generally silly.

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  • Rahsaan said:
    ..d...do anyone know why this war comment thing still going on..?i don't see any reason behind this anymore...?

    Some people made valid criticisms about the writing.

    Other people got butthurt and responded with insults and cries of "its just porn, stop whining"

    The artists themselves came in and started throwing childish temper tantrums in response to the criticism

    Admins came in and saw a bunch of people arguing and cries of "drama" and started handing out bans/warnings

    And now the comment sections are just filling up with meta-drama and/or people pointing and sneering at the "drama" with snide remarks, like the two above this comment.

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  • MistaMarluxiaXIII said:
    But i didn't aimed for the admins, i just knew I'd get banned for RL-Threats, so i apologized for the comment D:

    Actually I meant everyone else .__.

    And before i get banned a second time, no, i didn't mean it for real, i just was really, really drunk that evening.

    You made the choice to get inebriated, therefor, it is STILL your choice that resulted in it, and it is still you that must be held accountable. Alcohol didn't make you do anything.

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  • RenaDyne said:
    You made the choice to get inebriated, therefor, it is STILL your choice that resulted in it, and it is still you that must be held accountable. Alcohol didn't make you do anything.

    Don't drink and flame. A campaign by your e621-Church™

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  • Things seem to be winding down. We won't be getting all up in the story's grill for being wrong about most things.

    DoctorPeas said:
    I am waiting for the alternate page four where the annoying dog cock-blocks Asriel. Dogsong plays in the background. Panel seven is just Alphys shouting curses as she watches a video feed without any pants on.

    I guess I have no idea how that would actually be accomplished, though. I suppose the dog could... steal his dick? Maybe there could be a bone pun. I guess it's not that good of an idea.

    *(The dog absorbs the cock.)
    *(The cock is clogged with the hair of a dog.)

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  • To be honest. Being involved in a few of these wars and seeing how the artist who made the speech for the characters (jason) acted towards some people when they said anything negative about it. And then the people throwing more gas in the fire. Criticism here is a very touchy subject it seems. In my mind I think an artist should always receive constructive criticism from his fans and peers even if it's critical. If it's coming from a true fan, he or she is not saying this to be mean they are saying it because they care about this artist enough to offer advise on where they can improve. Atleast that's what a fan should do , you can be supportive of the art and artist without just praising it endlessly even when there are some flaws in it. Ignoring the flaws does not help, but if you point them out without sounding hostile and offer ways to fix the flaws that in my mind is the best way to be s fan give the artist praise show them you like what they are doing and if you think you see something wrong that can be fixed give suggestions to them point it out and offer advice and all that . basically in my mind fans should kinda be like somewhat of a best friend of friend always honest with you and only wants to help you even if it might be alil uncomfortable at first you know it is coming from a place of love and only wanting to see you do better. Example: if your friend who is s girl asks you if the dress she is in makes her look fat be honest with her or not does tell her but right after you tell her suggest she wear the black dress that makes her look slender and highlights her curves and whatever else she might have . that way you have pointed out a flaw and after that you offered an improvement so not she looks even better. She it might have been alil akward when you said yes and it might have been stung alil but you offered a way to fix the problem and even improve on it. That is how I feel a fan base should work. And for the most part I have seen some of people doing that, the problems is when people start only pointing out flaws then making rude comments about the flaws and not offering a way to help improve which turns Into you just insulting the art. The other problem is interpretation. You may make a long text highlighting flaws in the art or work the artist has done. While also offering ways to improve and fix it and to you this sounds helpful and respectful. But to someone else and maybe the artist the way you worded it to them sounds like your being hostile and trying to insult them. So there are many things I think one must think about when stepping into that minefield of giving constructive criticism

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    I find it amusing how polarizing the mods can be in regards to the criticism of one comic against another.

    Let's just take Kabier's two most recent comics as an example, since I've barked on those as of late, and start with Man's Best Friend With Benefits. I've made a comment on roughly every other if not every page describing my disdain for the poor dialogue, poor narrative structure, and horrible characters, and not ONCE was I 'warned' with 'filtering' my criticism of it. Ironically enough, GarethGabelcoque of all people got flagged for essentially saying what I said in his own words about the comic around the last page Kabier made before going to Love or Not Be Loved.

    And now to that comic. I get a warning about a response I made to someone about how I reiterated how I don't care about source accuracy, since they mentioned a game mechanic of Undertale that I'm not fully aware of and thus don't factor in, and that entailed to another record because I made a response to Jason (but not to the same person), debasing my arguments, taking my words out of context, and throwing me under the rug. Sure, I got flagged BECAUSE apparently I 'continued' drama, but isn't Jason just as guilty of the crime of committing that? Not only that, but after page four the mods have pretty much put any potential commenter's account at gunpoint if they want to talk about the comic on the surface, which I TRIED TO DO, by saying how Toriel's dialogue sounds kinda dopey. Fuck me, I haven't been NEARLY as ANGRY at this comic as I was with MBFWB, and yet I get a record because someone wants to defame my argument and character and I won't sit idly by and let them live in that presumption?

    And then it comes full circle of how mods have a very subjective opinion of 'insult', IE, me calling someone a dipshit once on one response (who isn't a Admin) because they wouldn't hear me out when I told them time and time again that my original comment was a joke, YET, when someone completely disregards EVERYTHING I SAY with 'no one gives a fuck', do the mods cry foul? Nope, they don't even THINK it's an insult, AT ALL.

    I'm not asking you to be the thought police, but if you are going to flag me for calling a non-admin a dipshit once on one occasion, at least be CONSISTENT with your BEHAVIOR.

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    GamerGoodies said:
    I'm much more entertained by the comment section then the porn being shown here.

    Because the comments have better writing and dialogue?

    Dickherdown said:
    Love this comic and this chat

    Honestly prefer the comments tbh.

    AggressiveDuck said:
    To be honest. Being involved in a few of these wars and seeing how the artist who made the speech for the characters (jason) acted towards some people when they said anything negative about it. And then the people throwing more gas in the fire. Criticism here is a very touchy subject it seems. In my mind I think an artist should always receive constructive criticism from his fans and peers even if it's critical. If it's coming from a true fan, he or she is not saying this to be mean they are saying it because they care about this artist enough to offer advise on where they can improve. Atleast that's what a fan should do , you can be supportive of the art and artist without just praising it endlessly even when there are some flaws in it. Ignoring the flaws does not help, but if you point them out without sounding hostile and offer ways to fix the flaws that in my mind is the best way to be s fan give the artist praise show them you like what they are doing and if you think you see something wrong that can be fixed give suggestions to them point it out and offer advice and all that . basically in my mind fans should kinda be like somewhat of a best friend of friend always honest with you and only wants to help you even if it might be alil uncomfortable at first you know it is coming from a place of love and only wanting to see you do better. Example: if your friend who is s girl asks you if the dress she is in makes her look fat be honest with her or not does tell her but right after you tell her suggest she wear the black dress that makes her look slender and highlights her curves and whatever else she might have . that way you have pointed out a flaw and after that you offered an improvement so not she looks even better. She it might have been alil akward when you said yes and it might have been stung alil but you offered a way to fix the problem and even improve on it. That is how I feel a fan base should work. And for the most part I have seen some of people doing that, the problems is when people start only pointing out flaws then making rude comments about the flaws and not offering a way to help improve which turns Into you just insulting the art. The other problem is interpretation. You may make a long text highlighting flaws in the art or work the artist has done. While also offering ways to improve and fix it and to you this sounds helpful and respectful. But to someone else and maybe the artist the way you worded it to them sounds like your being hostile and trying to insult them. So there are many things I think one must think about when stepping into that minefield of giving constructive criticism

    Lots of reading, but can't it. I agree with ya, buddy.

    Welp. Kinda scared I get trouble too like those who speak up. I guess banning or blocking me will only show a certain weakness, but ay. I check the comic from time to time mainly for the chat ;P

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    I'm not trying to trivialize the definition of harassment, and the cognitive dissonance between me criticizing the writing of a comic book and someone's weight is that one is a judgment of merit and the other is a judgment of person or character.

    The problem is that people constantly make the same critisism repeatedly. Saying it once or twice is okay if for the right reason but to keep complaining about the same thing is ridiculous. You say in another comment that you repeatedly commented on "mans best friend" comic about the dialogue. Lets say you changed the fat person for a writer and you constantly followed around some kid telling him how much of a shitty writer he is. That would still be harassment.

    Why don't people 'need to' have criticisms about a comic? It's the only way a author or writer can improve themselves, because if they only get criticism from themselves or people close in their life it will either be self-serving or self-destructive. Another false dichotomy about someone complaining at a movie theater and someone typing comments on a website is that you CAN ignore the comments. The movie theater is something you paid for that is being played in one stream that can't be paused or play backed, but here, you can enjoy the comic entirely and disregard everything I have to say as long or as many times as you please. You made the decision to hear me out on what I have to say, it's not my fault that what I have to say bothers you.

    constructive criticism is alright once in a while but at what point are you just annoying people instead of helping anything? The writers for these comics are happy with their work and so are lots of the readers. People like you keep finding ways to make them "better" but they don't want to hear what you have to say because this is what they want to make. You expect them to change what they do simply to appease you and your wants.What I think is most ridiculous is when people keep making the same comments as if what they say makes a difference when it doesn't. Nobody cares about what you want. If you hate the dialogue, say it once and move on. Also, I could ignore your comments but that doesn't make them any less annoying. You could choose to ignore this comic or keep your mouth shut. You opened yourself up to criticism by making your comments.

    I've made criticisms to my boss at work, as does everyone else, and everyone at my work thinks he's a great boss. As I said, constructive criticism can make a better person. I haven't had to fear for my wages or the schedule of my job, unless I called him a dipshit or a fag based on nothing but an emotional reaction.

    You aren't being constructive with the mod, you are accusing him of abusing his power. I don't know what job you have but I have never seen a man challenge his boss on a decision in front of other staff. I have seen people do it behind the bosses back and I have told the boss what I think to his face but I have never seen anyone stupid enough to do both at the same time.

    I actually just might do that to give them some perspective of the kinds of 'experiences' I've had on previous forums, so they know why I'm extremely defensive towards them.

    You're on the right track. If you have something to say to the mods, just pm them and explain the situation but I think you have the problem of believing yourself to always be in the right. I think that if a mod explains his reasoning behind it, you might see why they believed their actions were in the right.

    So the only people who can question the power of a mod is another person who gave them that power in the first place? How are we to better the mods if they don't want to hear anyone out? And I don't expect them to respect my opinion, but I do expect them to let my opinion be out on display, for people to mock if i'm full of shit.

    What I think you should do is talk to another mod about the situation, if they believe the first mod was right, then you are wrong. I look at the internet like a house. If someone doesn't want you in there house based on your actions, they have the right to kick you out. If you don't like the way things work here, then it would be better if you left. You also have the problem of believing the mods don't want to hear anyone out when it is more likely that you automatically believe the mods to be wrong and won't hear them out either.

    I cut out the parts where you bring up the horrible movie theater analogy. Anyway, if a mod decides to put everyone's opinions up for the death knell because of the actions of certain people in previous pages, I think that was the mods 'stoking the fire'. I wouldn't have brought up the mods if NotMeNotYou totally 'took the internet seriously'. I would've just said that Toriel's dialogue is dopey and leave it at that, because at least that's something I can see. Although then again, this is more of a chicken and egg theory, since I 'got a record' on the previous page that was almost irrelevant to the point of the comic.

    You stoked the fire even more though. The mod was simply saying "don't start any shit". I don't see how that is choosing sides, hating critisism, being bias, abusing their power, or stoking any fires. It is their job to keep order and you spat in their faces when they told you to sit down and shut up. Overall, I am done with this shit. I have written shit tons of text when I came here to do one thing.

    FAP

    What did you come here for? Hopefully, it wasn't for the story.
    Goodbye and good luck on your weird quest to make porn have a better story that isn't necessary because the story is just a way to get people to have sex with a little context for those who like a reason why two people are fucking.

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  • I wonder how many people got banned because of this comic.

    If there's a way to disable comments on a post, then the mods should do it to this comic. Every post on it.
    ..And maybe that dog bestiality comic (I think its called 'mans best friend with benefits), if there are flamewars on that. I haven't checked.

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  • Welp. I came to this page thinking i would be here for a few minutes for the content, and a few comment reading. Did not see how much comments were posted, and its been 40 minutes. Thanks for the novel on injustoce on morality and corruption on a porn site all

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  • burgrr said:
    I wonder how many people got banned because of this comic.

    If there's a way to disable comments on a post, then the mods should do it to this comic. Every post on it.
    ..And maybe that dog bestiality comic (I think its called 'mans best friend with benefits), if there are flamewars on that. I haven't checked.

    there isnt a way to block individual post comments (might be something to recommend in the requests forum) but user's can turn off comments for their account... most people choose not to, then do stupid things, which then gets them in trouble. thing is this comic...and i have no fuggin idea why... and another one ivolving a guy who finds a stray dog have attracted sooooooo much bullshit its depressing. and not only that but they just keep coming back for more. i actually watched an admin say basicly "enough, next one gets banned" and the next one to comment shot himself in the foot by ignoring the admin. is it really THAT important to rave about fantasty characters and their supposed lifestyles or shit? *gets headache just trying to figure out what everyones got their panties in a bunch over*

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  • I truly don't know whether or not I like this comic now... from the art itself to the comment war that's below it. Oh well, I guess it can't be a happy, sunny place full of love everywhere you go.

    Quite frankly, I often wonder why arguing with moderators is still a thing, because some people can't seem to understand that they can ban you I guess. Secondly, the admins and mods weren't just people who got picked on the side of the street and offered a job (at least, I hope not). I'd assume they'd know what they're doing and even if they didn't, acting like an adult on a website like this should be common knowledge. After of that, I'm beginning to question if aduots are the ones arguing here. Why argue in the first place? To voice your thoughts and opinions? If an Admin tells you that what you're saying is something that shouldn't be said, right or wrong, that should be respected because they're an Admin. Their title alone gives them more power and authority than you.

    To be honest, everything I just said was pointless ranting that will most likely make me get caught in crossfire. So let me just go back to doing what I came here for and enjoying decent art/porn.

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  • Kyukon~ said:
    I truly don't know whether or not I like this comic now... from the art itself to the comment war that's below it. Oh well, I guess it can't be a happy, sunny place full of love everywhere you go.

    Quite frankly, I often wonder why arguing with moderators is still a thing, because some people can't seem to understand that they can ban you I guess. Secondly, the admins and mods weren't just people who got picked on the side of the street and offered a job (at least, I hope not). I'd assume they'd know what they're doing and even if they didn't, acting like an adult on a website like this should be common knowledge. After of that, I'm beginning to question if aduots are the ones arguing here. Why argue in the first place? To voice your thoughts and opinions? If an Admin tells you that what you're saying is something that shouldn't be said, right or wrong, that should be respected because they're an Admin. Their title alone gives them more power and authority than you.

    To be honest, everything I just said was pointless ranting that will most likely make me get caught in crossfire. So let me just go back to doing what I came here for and enjoying decent art/porn.

    According to quite some people, they use their authority to get what they want.

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  • Hmm, tiny-ass scroll bar. That's not a good sign.

    Ooh, 15+ comments hidden, that's really not good.

    NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    Pissed admin. I'm outta here.
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  • As for the comic itself though, since we're supposed to talk about that.
    It's really not original. This ship has been made lots and lots of times, and seriously, this scenario ? You'd better just remove all dialogues and let the viewer guess what's happening, because honestly, no one cares about it, and it seems like the artist didn't care either and just threw it like this.

    The art is good though, but as I said, there are many, many others like this one, and coming from someone who's this popular, we'd expect better.

    Oh, also, no one in their sane mind would agree to fuck their son just because said son asked it. Toriel has no idea about what a reset is, we're not talking about Sans here, and GOD DAMMIT IT'S HER SON, LET HER HESITATE AT LEAST !

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  • Lockwin said:
    ↑ Love this person ↑

    Because the comments have better writing and dialogue?

    Lol not really It's because it really shows how stupid undertale fans can get. =3=

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    jeez, thats rough. at least you guys are capable of keeping it under control

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    Why does Toriel sound like one of those japanese-hentai incest mothers who point out the obvious most of the time or have to express their every thought out loud? Probably just to sake our desire to get to the porn so the fanatics don't get, well, fanatic.

    and i know this will get flagged REGARDLESS of how 'respectful' I seem to be, because the filter for what is considered 'harassment' or 'going beyond' has pretty much devolved into 'if it has lots of comments, it will now have no comments, one way or another'.

    I've always see this breaching of a mods power too many times to count. On game forums, on fan forums, on music forums, all too often when someone gets that power to silence someone for something they said that they don't like, they always abuse that power, and they will always go on to say that their word is final and true and just simply because "Moderator" is behind their name. And there's no stopping them from continuing that behavior, because the Moderator Staff will go out of it's way to defend other mod's 'ban spamming' behavior to the death, because of the private conflict of interest hand shaking that goes on in betwixt each of these kinds of forums. Does it differ that this website isn't 'considered' a forum? Not likely, from what I've seen of current behaviors from word to stupid word. But I've trailed too far away from the point of this comic, and I know that me 'criticising' the behavior of the mods will get me flagged for 'harassment of the mods', only justifying the behavior further.

    fakeandgay said:
    But some fucks give a damn.

    Calcifer said:
    Um, not trying to be rude or start trouble but isn't that a tad extreme? seems a bit too far to say that a specific post is now off limits for discussion since drama is very up for interpretation. Just seems like it makes this a hostile comment area where you can't feel safe to say anything at all now.

    LexGoyle said:

    Yup, that's mainly because once someone reaches a certain level of "popularity" somewhere they tend to get preferential treatment which ironically creates more drama. Which in turn simply feeds the ego of the person unable to handle the "shitposting" that tends to come with the territory of creating content. This is the norm even actual celebrities must deal with and they've learned to pretty much ignore it; like a mature adult would.

    Blah blah too much reading later....

    I agree with this stuff. Power over others is sn evil thing same with up voting and down voting

    Which is why i blame autism
    I am prepared for downvotes

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  • Waba_Grill said:
    No one gives a fuck. Damn

    You talking for everyone e or just yourself? Because I know I'd never like for you to talk for me.

    FoxyBomb said:
    In the end, I blame Drama Alert.

    LETS GET ROOOOOOOOIGHT INTO THE AUTISM

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  • Poonington said:
    You talking for everyone e or just yourself? Because I know I'd never like for you to talk for me.

    You are 6 months late to the party. Congrats

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  • someoneelse229 said:
    Why does Toriel sound like one of those japanese-hentai incest mothers who point out the obvious most of the time or have to express their every thought out loud? Probably just to sake our desire to get to the porn so the fanatics don't get, well, fanatic.

    and i know this will get flagged REGARDLESS of how 'respectful' I seem to be, because the filter for what is considered 'harassment' or 'going beyond' has pretty much devolved into 'if it has lots of comments, it will now have no comments, one way or another'.

    I've always see this breaching of a mods power too many times to count. On game forums, on fan forums, on music forums, all too often when someone gets that power to silence someone for something they said that they don't like, they always abuse that power, and they will always go on to say that their word is final and true and just simply because "Moderator" is behind their name. And there's no stopping them from continuing that behavior, because the Moderator Staff will go out of it's way to defend other mod's 'ban spamming' behavior to the death, because of the private conflict of interest hand shaking that goes on in betwixt each of these kinds of forums. Does it differ that this website isn't 'considered' a forum? Not likely, from what I've seen of current behaviors from word to stupid word. But I've trailed too far away from the point of this comic, and I know that me 'criticising' the behavior of the mods will get me flagged for 'harassment of the mods', only justifying the behavior further.

    A sacrifice for truth.

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  • Honestly, banning the whiny users with poor impulse control probably does a better job of agelocking the site than anything else we do. Most adults know how to interact with other people. Twelve-year-olds, not so much.

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  • You know what I love to do? Go through comment sections and click on crossed out names to find out why people got banned. I just like doing it.

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  • SilentObserver02 said:
    You know what I love to do? Go through comment sections and click on crossed out names to find out why people got banned. I just like doing it.

    to be honest with you i like to do the same thing. as well as go to my old comments and then go onto the removed posts and see why they're removed. then love seeing that artists/animators can't ignore a little comment section of a website that gave them nearly half of their popularity, threw a fit, then got rid of all of their art on here

    boy i love it.

    go ahead and put some salt on my head.

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  • Regarding my old comment...

    [INSERT WITTY CLEVER ZINGER] and that's the punchline. Some people just think they're just good old hot shit, with their tricycles and all

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  • NotMeNotYou said:

    Any drama in the comment section will be punished to the full extent of the Code of Conduct]

    Everybody had the last 4 pages to get their opinions out in the open so now is the time to start being civil, or get banned.

    to be perfectly honest, I think the main reason why this comment got so many upvotes..was because well..you don't want to downvote an admin comment

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  • SilentObserver02 said:
    You know what I love to do? Go through comment sections and click on crossed out names to find out why people got banned. I just like doing it.

    The ones from the good olden days are the best ones. Especially in the days before E621's admins and mods were subject to such strict guidelines that they have to obey in our days now. The most ridiculous time period would have to be that one post I saw once, in which everyone who flagged the darn thing got permanently banned with the simple reasoning of "LOBSTER WEEK!" I'm not joking, there are users out there who got permabanned for just a wrongful flag.

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  • pleasantapples said:
    Can anyone explain what in the heck happened here?

    yeah some person by the username someoneelse229 bashed one of the creators in previous post for the pool that this deleted post was for

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