with this shit again!? when will you learn?

There's no need to learn for that person when people are actually buying into his Patronize crap

That's actually the point I made Neitsuke as this isn't out of senerity but enabling the idea further. It's a big problem that people actually do this and are this blatant about it. It's even worse for an artist I actually like but Dream is slowly making that impossible.

Bust-Duster said:
with this shit again!? when will you learn?

In a word, Never :(

Dreamcastzx said:
It's almost as though I'm doing this to get a reaction out of people.

Then you should be banned from this site.

Dreamcastzx said:
It's almost as though I'm doing this to get a reaction out of people.

i'm sorry, but nobody can take anymore of your tomfoolery. it's shitty business practicing and just shameless overall.

Based on past comments such as:

Dreamcastzx said:
It's almost like it's done on purpose

It's pretty obvious that this person wants a reaction out of others.
Just use your blacklist and move on, people.

When will people learn to not click on a picture if you know you're going to hate it? Brain dead idiots. All of you. You see clear as day the patreon logo on Amy's vagina of sideboob so why the fuck are you clicking on the image? Idiots. And this comment is obviously going to get thumbs down because of the idiots clicking on this picture.

Sonamyfan03 said:
When will people learn to not click on a picture if you know you're going to hate it? Brain dead idiots. All of you. You see clear as day the patreon logo on Amy's vagina of sideboob so why the fuck are you clicking on the image? Idiots. And this comment is obviously going to get thumbs down because of the idiots clicking on this picture.

Or maybe, just maybe, the comment and picture are getting thumbs down because people disagree with you?

Could you poison the well even more?

Sonamyfan03 said:
When will people learn to not click on a picture if you know you're going to hate it? Brain dead idiots. All of you. You see clear as day the patreon logo on Amy's vagina of sideboob so why the fuck are you clicking on the image? Idiots. And this comment is obviously going to get thumbs down because of the idiots clicking on this picture.

If this person is looking for support, this type of censoring doesn't win over a lot of people. You seem too gullible to realize what this artist is really doing.

- Seeing patreon logo, but I can't find link to patreon. So can't give money even if wanted to.
- Seeing tag "comic" but nothing to indicate that this is a comic and if this is a comic, no cropped tag or earlier pages linked/pooled or stated which comic and what page.

I can't bother hating this nor I think I can change someones business practises, but at least get your basic shit together.

TheMrMaverickMann said:
Or maybe, just maybe, the comment and picture are getting thumbs down because people disagree with you?

Could you poison the well even more?

PREACH.

Dreamcastzx said:
It's almost as though I'm doing this to get a reaction out of people.

Oh......sweet so you're being a dick for the sake of being a dick even to the people who are (or were poised) to give you money. I don't think it's the fact that you're doing it that's pretty infuriating it's the fact that Patreon itself has made it WAY too easy for people to just slam their thuddingly obvious fuck-you-give-me-money watermark on a user's content.

I especially like that Sonamyfan03 character (what shipping do you like because I didn't catch it at first) because they're the exact people companies like EA and Ubisoft like having as fans. Mouth breathers who are quick to jump in front of the train to defend callous practices. At this point I do have to think you have enough supporters to fuck over people who don't want to pay you actual money which is basically holding content for ransom.

Dreamcastzx said:
I'm just having a bit of fun, I love watching the arguments you guys get into, sometimes you gotta just enjoy life, don't take things too seriously.

Okay so you're doing this to get a reaction out of people thus making you a troll. You're also using bad business practices thst could be handled far better, and to top it off you're using copyrighted characters thst don't belong to you to make money which technically make you a criminal. Yeah, it's getting pretty damn hard to see things your way.

Dreamcastzx said:
I'm just having a bit of fun, I love watching the arguments you guys get into, sometimes you gotta just enjoy life, don't take things too seriously.

Looking at porn is a part of enjoying life isn't it......and no one wants a paywall in front of it. But you know that's fine enjoy your life long dream of being a scam artist I guess. Like I said clearly you know there are mouth breathers paying for your dumbshit "GIVE ME MONEY" content so I can't stop you from continuing to rip people off and laugh at the people actually arguing against your awful business. Like I said before I do like your content but this kind of thing is outright disrespectful.

"sometimes you gotta just enjoy life, don't take things too seriously"

Yeah you're right dude and thanks to Patreon people like you can get away with being worthless and most likely making a profit of of idiots. So again you're right enjoy life even if it's at another person's expense.

TechnoTrance said:
Looking at porn is a part of enjoying life isn't it......and no one wants a paywall in front of it. But you know that's fine enjoy your life long dream of being a scam artist I guess. Like I said clearly you know there are mouth breathers paying for your dumbshit "GIVE ME MONEY" content so I can't stop you from continuing to rip people off and laugh at the people actually arguing against your awful business. Like I said before I do like your content but this kind of thing is outright disrespectful.

"sometimes you gotta just enjoy life, don't take things too seriously"

Yeah you're right dude and thanks to Patreon people like you can get away with being worthless and most likely making a profit of of idiots. So again you're right enjoy life even if it's at another person's expense.

How do you explain my free stuff then?

Dreamcastzx said:
How do you explain my free stuff then?

quit tryin' to flip flop the situation. we are discussing the matters of your "questionable" use of patreon and scummy advertising.

Dreamcastzx said:
How do you explain my free stuff then?

I dunno. However, you do lose 10 points and miss a turn for attempting to red herring the discussion away from the main topic.

Bust-Duster said:
quit tryin' to flip flop the situation. we are discussing the matters of your "questionable" use of patreon and scummy advertising.

I thought it was about all of you just wanting free stuff all the time without paying one cent, and again if you don't like the way I do things why are you here still seems like you just want to complain, a normal person just doesn't care.

Dreamcastzx said:
How do you explain my free stuff then?

Don't try to change the subject by weaseling that cliche repsonse into the conversation. Clearly I can see your free shit but the fact you got content like this dilutes a lot of your respect. Nobody here is mad because of you doing patreon work it's how you view it to the public that's important.

Dreamcastzx said:
I thought it was about all of you just wanting free stuff all the time without paying one cent, and again if you don't like the way I do things why are you here still seems like you just want to complain, a normal person just doesn't care.

Or maybe he found you to be a nice person but since patreon has made it to where lazy people can scribble picture and slap their logo in front of everything he sees you as a true dick. The big ass patreon icon is nothing more than cry for anti-consumer behavior.

Dreamcastzx said:
I thought it was about all of you just wanting free stuff all the time without paying one cent, and again if you don't like the way I do things why are you here still seems like you just want to complain, a normal person just doesn't care.

your tactics may seem to work now, but over time they'll wear thin. i'm saying this because you have the ability to make great content, and if you want to start some patreon service that is fine also. however, the way you've been using it is a step in the wrong direction and i can't condone that.

Bust-Duster said:
your tactics may seem to work now, but over time they'll wear thin. i'm saying this because you have the ability to make great content, and if you want to start some patreon service that is fine also. however, the way you've been using it is a step in the wrong direction and i can't condone that.

Well there lies the other problem of besides just being an asshole why is their paywall content mixed with free content here. If we don't like it then there's always the free content that's all fine and dandy but again there has to be another reason than being a jerk for you to slap a logo blocking off the main attraction of the image. I'm actually with you on this as I do find him a great artist but like I said in one of the previous Patreon shillings doing this devalues the art and makes him look sympathetic.

TechnoTrance said:
Well there lies the other problem of besides just being an asshole why is their paywall content mixed with free content here. If we don't like it then there's always the free content that's all fine and dandy but again there has to be another reason than being a jerk for you to slap a logo blocking off the main attraction of the image. I'm actually with you on this as I do find him a great artist but like I said in one of the previous Patreon shillings doing this devalues the art and makes him look sympathetic.

i just hope he'll realize that there are ways to make money without all of the backlash.

Bust-Duster said:
i just hope he'll realize that there are ways to make money without all of the backlash.

It's also even worse when he response to the backlash by just shrugging it off and trolling. There is no fixing what is a problem here it's simply him ignoring it. Then again we've established that their are idiots actually paying for shit like this so he probably thinks he doesn't have to care. People like that don't realize they're doing something wrong until it's blatantly screamed at them.

TechnoTrance said:
It's also even worse when he response to the backlash by just shrugging it off and trolling. There is no fixing what is a problem here it's simply him ignoring it. Then again we've established that their are idiots actually paying for shit like this so he probably thinks he doesn't have to care. People like that don't realize they're doing something wrong until it's blatantly screamed at them.

agreed. if money is one of his main priorities (not saying it's bad to want revenue for his content), why would he shoot himself in the foot just to get arise of someone? he could instead widen the horizons and make more bank if not focused on taking a piss at people. the formula works like this:

quality content x respect = more cash.

respect is more valuable in the long run than trying to make a quick buck now.

Hooray! Another shitty paywall!

Bust-Duster said:
agreed. if money is one of his main priorities (not saying it's bad to want revenue for his content), why would he shoot himself in the foot just to get arise of someone? he could instead widen the horizons and make more bank if not focused on taking a piss at people. the formula works like this:

quality content x respect = more cash.

respect is more valuable in the long run than trying to make a quick buck now.

You can't pay people to respect you realistically. You can but it's just like any other materialistic product as it's prone to deteriorate and break. Patreon isn't a gain but an enabler to this kind of behavior. So long as those people are willing to pay he doesn't have to care about people like you and I because those people are the most impressionable and gullible people on this planet.

TechnoTrance said:
You can't pay people to respect you realistically. You can but it's just like any other materialistic product as it's prone to deteriorate and break. Patreon isn't a gain but an enabler to this kind of behavior. So long as those people are willing to pay he doesn't have to care about people like you and I because those people are the most impressionable and gullible people on this planet.

at this point, he may as well just cater to patreon users exclusively considering the direction he's headed.

Bust-Duster said:
at this point, he may as well just cater to patreon users exclusively considering the direction he's headed.

Pretty much because he cares enough to keep putting this content here when we can't do anything about it being obviously payed and shameless advertising.

386Carmen said:
And being grateful for other artists too.

Not like you are anyway

in what way, shape or form does my appreciation of an artist have anything to with the terrible business practices that we are currently discussing in this thread, hmm?

Don't abuse the flagging system.

JonTron: I'm sick of your shit!!!

2 Easy steps to be hated:

1. Use Patreon
2. Post yourself the pics with large Patreon logos in front of it.

Dreamcastzx said:
I thought it was about all of you just wanting free stuff all the time without paying one cent, and again if you don't like the way I do things why are you here still seems like you just want to complain, a normal person just doesn't care.

You know, you've been replying to almost every hate comment on here like you weren't an adult and keep your trap closed

someone try to find the source of the image without the Patreon BS.

Why not just pay for the image and support the creator. If you dont like it just blacklist patreon

Kuroji said:
Then you should be banned from this site.

If he's trying to get a reaction wouldnt the safe thing to do is just not reply? If you feed into the trolling by being all whiny about it then you're basically a lolcow for him, don't be a lolcow and dont feed the troll. Let him do the stuff he's doing, he'll eventually realise people dont give a flying fuck and stop. seriously, arent you like taught this in 4th grade?

booky-chan said:
Why not just pay for the image and support the creator. If you dont like it just blacklist patreon

I would if:

A) His Patreon was, y'know, actually linked.

&

B) I wasn't poor as fuck.