Doesn't have a literal Ditto face.

Furrin_Gok said:
Doesn't have a literal Ditto face.

that is a ditto thats for sure but is looks a little bit odd that goo thing all around her belly and legs. what dose even mean.

Furrin_Gok said:
Doesn't have a literal Ditto face.

Honestly, that was a meme from the anime which was about a Ditto who failed at the one thing Dittos are good for, which is transforming, which was that it couldn't change it's facial features. (by the end of the episode, team rocket got it to learn to do it, so it became perfect transformations every time after that)

It's basically the same level of "it happened to one so that means it happened to ALL of them" level of people making bad assumptions as Cubone.

Daneasaur said:
Honestly, that was a meme from the anime which was about a Ditto who failed at the one thing Dittos are good for, which is transforming, which was that it couldn't change it's facial features. (by the end of the episode, team rocket got it to learn to do it, so it became perfect transformations every time after that)

It's basically the same level of "it happened to one so that means it happened to ALL of them" level of people making bad assumptions as Cubone.

It's the sort of imperfection one would expect when a ditto cannot hold its form together, though.

What assumptions did people make with Cubone?

Furrin_Gok said:
It's the sort of imperfection one would expect when a ditto cannot hold its form together, though.

What assumptions did people make with Cubone?

That all cubone wear the skull of their mother. That was only the lavender town incident. Cubone and marowak are bonekeeper pokemon and graverob to get their weapons and armor, which are bones.

however, because the dex and people keep remembering the lavender situation, it's been wronger perpetuated that "all cubone wear the skull of their mother".

Daneasaur said:
That all cubone wear the skull of their mother. That was only the lavender town incident. Cubone and marowak are bonekeeper pokemon and graverob to get their weapons and armor, which are bones.

however, because the dex and people keep remembering the lavender situation, it's been wronger perpetuated that "all cubone wear the skull of their mother".

The pokedex talks about the pokemon in general, never any specific individual one. That it says "Cubone wears the skull of its dead mother" means that ALL Cubone do so. And it's not just a mistake in the Pokedex for gen 1, even through gen 6 some of the Dex entries still claim it's the skull of its mother.

Furrin_Gok said:
The pokedex talks about the pokemon in general, never any specific individual one. That it says "Cubone wears the skull of its dead mother" means that ALL Cubone do so. And it's not just a mistake in the Pokedex for gen 1, even through gen 6 some of the Dex entries still claim it's the skull of its mother.

And every airplane that ever hits a building is 9/11 and everyone of any importance in john cena.

It's quite literally the most recent true tragedy in universe that anyone can recall and therefore it's talked about NON STOP, just like any of our own tragedies.

Daneasaur said:
And every airplane that ever hits a building is 9/11 and everyone of any importance in john cena.

It's quite literally the most recent true tragedy in universe that anyone can recall and therefore it's talked about NON STOP, just like any of our own tragedies.

I've not been hearing people talking about 9/11 recently, and never comparing any plane that hits a building to it.

Furrin_Gok said:
I've not been hearing people talking about 9/11 recently, and never comparing any plane that hits a building to it.

Right, that's the sensible thing to do, so why is "every" cubone "sad at the unjust death of it's mother and wears her skull"?

It doesn't make any sense and simply is the one case blown out of proportion.

Besides, in your statement of the dex speaking about "pokemon in general", then it means that a cubone's mother is exceedingly odd as the skull doesn't match any known pokemon (and was likely designed that way on purpose).

Daneasaur said:
Right, that's the sensible thing to do, so why is "every" cubone "sad at the unjust death of it's mother and wears her skull"?

It doesn't make any sense and simply is the one case blown out of proportion.

Besides, in your statement of the dex speaking about "pokemon in general", then it means that a cubone's mother is exceedingly odd as the skull doesn't match any known pokemon (and was likely designed that way on purpose).

The closest match there is for it would be a Kangaskhan, which the cubone itself is already a match for the baby Kangaskhan. It's kind of odd that they kept that dex entry in when breeding became a thing, though. Maybe it's saying "Mother" as in an ancestor, similar to "Forefathers." The Skull coming from the mother could just mean it gained the exoskeleton of said ancestor, but it's really strange that they kept with that wording still.

Furrin_Gok said:
The closest match there is for it would be a Kangaskhan, which the cubone itself is already a match for the baby Kangaskhan. It's kind of odd that they kept that dex entry in when breeding became a thing, though. Maybe it's saying "Mother" as in an ancestor, similar to "Forefathers." The Skull coming from the mother could just mean it gained the exoskeleton of said ancestor, but it's really strange that they kept with that wording still.

Well, aside from the kangaskhan thing being debunked (all are female, no exceptions), you may have a point.

In Japanese culture, there are few greater shames than insulting fore forefathers/forebears. Part of this is why they always refer to themselves by their family name, and when shame is brought upon them, it shames the family, but so is honor.

Many of the substantial proof of my claims of "Cubone and Marowak are grave robbers". Also comes from the dex as it mentions cubone many times.

Some continue the whole "it got over it's loss of it's mother" aspect, while others talk about it holding bones from it's birth and being vicious. However, the most impressive bit comes from Soul Silver:

It collects bones from an unknown place. Some whisper that a MAROWAK graveyard exists somewhere in the world.

And you also often find cubone/marowak in graveyards.

However, there is STILL more impressive things to know with Sun and Moon coming around due to the variant which is now a Ghost/Fire. As you know, the Marowak in the Lavender Tower was a Ghost and was cubone's dead mother, but read this:

It’s said that their great care for their partners allowed them to gain something like a sixth sense and resulted in their changed form.

Could it be that the mother Marowak actually was being so protective of her child that she partially changed form, thus allowing her to continue attacking, despite her body being dead?

Daneasaur said:
Could it be that the mother Marowak actually was being so protective of her child that she partially changed form, thus allowing her to continue attacking, despite her body being dead?

Didn't a trainer and his pokemon all turn into ghost pokemon when their ship sank in the anime?

Furrin_Gok said:
Didn't a trainer and his pokemon all turn into ghost pokemon when their ship sank in the anime?

Dunno, but I DO know that you should NEVER mix anime lore with the game lore. The two are VERY different and when it gets mixed, you'll look like a dingus to BOTH crowds.

Just the Sinnoh tales alone paint an incredibly different image of the pokemon world, not to mention the backstory of X and Y, or even the culinary dishes in the Kallos region.

However, on that note, most Ghost pokemon appear to be physical manifestations of "unfinished work/grudges". This doesn't seem to make much sense, unless we tap into an aspect of pokemon that was brought up in gen 4, which is Aura.

There was a theory around that pokemon had a sort of "forcefield" around their bodies that prevented critical injuries, but when it was exhausted, the pokemon would faint. This was often brief, but the pokemon needed rest before it was legally allowed to battle again, otherwise it would get REAL injuries and possibly die.

This "forcefield" is also what pokeballs lock onto, so when a pokemon has fainted, a pokeball has nothing to lock onto and won't function.

In gen 4, constant talk about Aura, or "life force" seemed to push for this, and recently, another pokemon was stated to have the ability to see and interact with "Aura" (I forgot what it was).

So for a pokemon to be killed, the aura needs to be exhausted, and THEN it needs to be attacked afterwards, which is how hunts go.

It also explains how Explosion and self destruct work, which would be purging the aura into a massive blast, but rendering the user vulnerable to injury thereafter.

This "fainted" status would explain how pokemon can use HM's, despite most players assuming the pokemon is comatose.

But back to the ghosts, this Aura for pokemon seems incredibly powerful, so it would stand to reason that a pokemon who died would be able to manifest into a solid form even after death, albeit as a ghost type, provided their aura in life was strong.

Err... Guys? You know, you could avoid mixing game and anime lore by accepting this as, well, porn.