Holy fuck nuts!

I'm sorry but yeah around 100$ for a picture...fuck that i can use that and buy a game or something a lot more useful than a fucking drawing.

Well, it's a fairly well-laid-out infographic, I'll give it that. But what's the point? Usually something like this is created to reveal some shocking or at least surprising truth that's been hiding in the data, but all this seems pretty obvious. Yes, commissions are a big part of the fandom. That's a good thing: it means more art, and more artists spending more time drawing furry stuff and being part of the community because there's a chance of making a little money.

The implication seems to be that the commission system is somehow nefarious, but I can't see why. It's also difficult to really say much about the numbers because it's unclear where any of them come from, or how they were calculated. Not a single source is cited, aside from a vague reference to various furry art sites.

That said, $1000 seems radically low for a monthly FA figure. By the chart's own numbers that means only 10 commissions are bought and sold per month, and even double that seems pretty low.

I don't mean to hate on whoever made this: it's an interesting idea. But it's really vague right now.

I think the point of the graph is "Holy wtf Dragoneer and Allan"

"I'm sorry but yeah around 100$ for a picture...fuck that i can use that and buy a game or something a lot more useful than a fucking drawing."

Different prices for different people. That's actually one of the few things on the graph that sounds about right to me though: $100 sounds like a fairly accurate average, though $80 might be closer to the truth. Yes, it's a lot of money, but skilled art takes time to produce, and training/talent that not everyone has. For a full-color, professional page of cg illustration, $100 is actually pretty cheap.

Marbles said:
I think the point of the graph is "Holy wtf Dragoneer and Allan"

That's my guess too, but again, who in the fandom doesn't know that already, at least if they've been here a while? Dragoneer's image especially: it's everywhere you turn. The guy's like Caesar. Interesting to see just how far his commissions really extend I suppose.

EinTheCorgi said:
I'm sorry but yeah around 100$ for a picture...fuck that i can use that and buy a game or something a lot more useful than a fucking drawing.

I bought a new computer for $100. I later spent another $100 on a graphics card, and another $100 for a better PSU & more RAM. But it's been a few years, and I'm still getting the most out of this computer. I wonder if they got that much out of their purchases. Then again, we're taking notice of them, and that's probably what they really wanted.

i dont get this.
does e621 make 8000$ ea month from ads ?

That... is one sexy chart.

If I saw this chart in a scientific journal I would be appalled. For example, it's very unclear what the figures on the bar graphs (foreground and background) represent, and what the timescale is. Is this dollars/year, dollars in total, what?

It's colorful, I'll give it that.

I smell a conspiracy. -Puts on a tinfoil hat.-

Trond said:

Words

Well, you see, if you actually read through the thing, you'd notice the key below the bars, written in white, gray and orange.

In short: RTFS

Arcanine09 said:
I smell a conspiracy. -Puts on a tinfoil hat.-

Hmmmm... I think I my join you. *also puts on a tinfoil hat*

Liquid_Chameleon said:
That said, $1000 seems radically low for a monthly FA figure. By the chart's own numbers that means only 10 commissions are bought and sold per month, and even double that seems pretty low.

No. Note that the average is referred to as being based on a full color image. Not all commissions are as such. But I think that number is kind of irrelevant. You have Adam Wan who charges like 1000+ for one image. And then you have the decent but not-so-popular artists who charge between 20 and 100. The difference between the two extremes is huge, thus making an "average" sort of pointless.

I agree with you on the citations thing though. I don't know how he arrived to the 1000 mark being spent on commissions daily, which could be correct, but it just doesn't seem right to me. Then again, it's only supposed to be FA. Maybe he didnt count a large portion of artwork simply because it didn't go through FA's channels.

I really want to know who did this study, and how. I honestly think the numbers here are way smaller than they actually are.

$100? Only if you're going to very popular artists and asking for fully shaded colour pictures with multiple characters and detailed backgrounds. You could easily pay half of that from a lot of people, yet this is being considered the -average- price?

In addition, this thing just seems to list exactly who it wants to. What about people like Skimike, Matthew Brandon, Bornvictim, Artica and anyone who ever won an auction from Strype? There are others who practically swim in commissions and THIS is the sample taken?

skeeter said:
Hmmmm... I think I my join you. *also puts on a tinfoil hat*

could you lend me one, aswell?

EinTheCorgi said:
I'm sorry but yeah around 100$ for a picture...fuck that i can use that and buy a game or something a lot more useful than a fucking drawing.

Then buy a game, or learn to draw. What is making your feel entitled to lower prices? Fairness, or the size of your wallet?

WoollyMittens said:
Then buy a game, or learn to draw. What is making your feel entitled to lower prices? Fairness, or the size of your wallet?

$100+ on "art" just seems like a waste, even if I had the money.

Some data from FurEAuction, Furbid and Furbuy would help this out a lot.

i got a tailsrulz print for free, beat that logic

banana_milkshake said:
i got a tailsrulz print for free, beat that logic

You still paid too much.

nuh uh, i pay nothing, get it shipped for nothing, and i like the picture, so its all win here

Liquid_Chameleon said:
The guy's like Caesar.

I like the way you think, Cassius...

banana_milkshake said:
nuh uh, i pay nothing, get it shipped for nothing, and i like the picture, so its all win here

As per internet challenge.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

and now you can stick that red secret dog or whatever the hell his name is, since he seems to be humping everything that moves

why is this taged lupin assassin..? .....ooo wait....the image is about spending loads of money on art and....O I see what you did thar! XD

FA's ad revenue is nowhere near what is quoted here. Alexa estimates the potential value of adspace based on its pagerank. However, FA does not use an external ad network that would charge based on this model.

FA sells advertising directly at $20.00/month or $100.00/6 months for a standard banner. So you see, to reach the ad revenue quoted here, FA would have to have between 390 and 468 advertising customers. They clearly do not.

This is why I commission from the lesser-known artists. I got a fullbody fullcolor reference for 15 dollars and a 500x500 color shaded portrait for the same.

I honestly don't give a fuck how much [person] spends on art. If they want to buy commissions with their money, what the hell business is it of mine?

DeeJayDragon said:
I honestly don't give a fuck how much [person] spends on art. If they want to buy commissions with their money, what the hell business is it of mine?

When they start shoving their retarded commissions around as if it's some sort of rank to popularity. Hell, one well known commission whore will bring books of personal porn of his character to fur-cons and shove it in your face at the mere mention of art.

i paid 10 bucks for some really great artwork by this one artist, his name s ukent on furaffinity.

WoollyMittens said:
Then buy a game, or learn to draw. What is making your feel entitled to lower prices? Fairness, or the size of your wallet?

You make me laugh.

Vixe said:
I like the way you think, Cassius...

you sir....have won 4 internets....and an additional onee for having to wait 8 months for your internets :D

Conker said:
why is this taged lupin assassin..? .....ooo wait....the image is about spending loads of money on art and....O I see what you did thar! XD

It's not a joke tag. As five seconds of searching would reveal (seriously, if you google "lupine assassin", you don't even have to click any links to find this info), Lupine Assassin's first name is Allan. There's an Allan on the graph. It's not a coincidence.

Baske said:
This is why I commission from the lesser-known artists. I got a fullbody fullcolor reference for 15 dollars and a 500x500 color shaded portrait for the same.

this is a point I like to bring up, why should I pay 100 for some uber popular artist, when some lesser known can do just as well, for cheaper. the people only commish more expensive artists because they are too lazy too look for someone cheaper, or want to become popular. because the only point in living is getting as many views as possible and bitching about getting all the attention you get as you hump everything that moves

who the fuck is Allan?

SexyRaptor said:
who the fuck is Allan?

Lupine Assassin

imagine all the bills you could pay with that money instead of asking for pictures of cock sucking dogs :D

The Dog In Your Guitar said:

If I saw this chart in a scientific journal I would be appalled. For example, it's very unclear what the figures on the bar graphs (foreground and background) represent, and what the timescale is. Is this dollars/year, dollars in total, what?

It's colorful, I'll give it that.

Ha, exactly. It's busy in all the wrong ways and over-simplified where it matters. What's worse is all the unused space despite the eye-squintingly small text ... the horror.

Oh wow I forgot about this. This is pretty crazy, especially when you think about how much artwork is constantly being created and sold in the community. Looks like Dragoneer has a fucking monopoly going.

Firstly, I have to agree with some of the earlier.comments and say... WTF SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THIS GRAPH! But I think this hat the price pr commission actually makes alot of sense. It takes ALOT of skill to draw high quality images, as well as several hours. I don't know how long the average image takes, but skilled labor ought to pay more per hour than working at McDonalds.

Ahhh! Curse you auto-correct! You messed up the first sentence of my comment.

GeffTheWolf said:
Ahhh! Curse you auto-correct! You messed up the first sentence of my comment.

It looks more like punctuation and spelling errors.

Auto correct would fix errors. Not insert them.

Needs to be updated to include Togepi1125 (Macro Fox/Falco guy).
With no ill-intent of course ;)