treos said:
huh, that's interesting.

28 here and closest i've ever come to that would be my hands so i can't really comment on this particular topic. it's not that i'm not at least curious about it but...i've never really been THAT interested in it if that makes sense. 28 years and counting of nothing pretty much but you won't hear me complain. though it might have to do with the fact that, irl, i'm not all that interested in going out and meeting other people when i can stay in my room and be content with the internet and my video games and other stuff.

o.O that might make me sound a little weird compared to most people but whatever.

Nah. I am just the same.

I find it hilarious that a question about sex has revealed all of e621 to be lonely and inexperienced.

Doomguy666 said:
I find it hilarious that a question about sex has revealed all of e621 to be lonely and inexperienced.

Or asexual/disinterested.

Fenrick said:
I don't know about your curriculum, but we talked about it way more than we needed to in my experience. It's not calculus...

Besides this proposal isn't "how to avoid STDs," it's basically relationship advice. Not what school is for in my opinion.

SOme countries do that or did. Turned out mixed bag, but no overly negaitive outcomes, but there are positive results, especially, in matter of self esteem. What you do, if family neglects that and there is no other source. Or worse, parents _disinform_ child on that matter? (that happens, especially if they are some fanatics)

Fenrick said:
Or asexual/disinterested.

you know, that actually surprises me more than

Doomguy666 said:
I find it hilarious that a question about sex has revealed all of e621 to be lonely and inexperienced.

this

Fenrick said:
Besides this proposal isn't "how to avoid STDs," it's basically relationship advice. Not what school is for in my opinion.

if it was, i would be screaming at africa to start using fucking condoms. the STD related statistics for africa is downright sickening with how common they are. and all because the men there don't want to use condoms or other "safe sex" methods.

treos said:
if it was, i would be screaming at africa to start using fucking condoms. the STD related statistics for africa is downright sickening with how common they are. and all because the men there don't want to use condoms or other "safe sex" methods.

It doesn't help that religions are taking advantage of the continent, with their disapproval of safe sex. It doesn't help either that humanitarian aid condoms have been faulty, giving them a bad rep.

Sorrowless said:
It doesn't help that religions are taking advantage of the continent, with their disapproval of safe sex.

Um, what religions are those, exactly?

Clawdragons said:
Honestly, I feel like you're being perhaps a bit too lenient.

How am I lenient? In saying that porn is the reason people have so little understanding of sex? It's true though! I mean, think of some kid on here (of which there are many, my former self included) who's only education of actual sex is the images and videos he sees. Why would he try to look elsewhere? Why would he not feel that they are accurate? Why would he question the accuracy of them in the first place? Our perception forms our reality, and if you partake of porn on a regular basis, it will warp your reality whether you want it to or not.

NotMeNotYou said:
Shit, let me call NASA that you found a lubrication that reduces friction to zero and helps create a perfect, energy loss free system.
Just saying, but lubrication just reduces friction and doesn't get rid of it, otherwise you'd be able to create a Perpetuum mobile and be able to conserve energy in that given system forever.

I apologize. I am sick as a dog right now and words look funny. I should have said "so that there is a pleasant level of friction". After all, if there wasn't any friction, there wouldn't be any sensation, and the act would be pointless.

An interesting hypothetical question would be if you would take away all friction in sex and get perpetual motion in return, and also have a way to get energy from it, would you do it? That would solve our energy needs forever, but we are the way we are for a reason, and it wouldn't be wise to give up our humanity.

Aster_Viridian said:
How am I lenient? In saying that porn is the reason people have so little understanding of sex? It's true though! I mean, think of some kid on here (of which there are many, my former self included) who's only education of actual sex is the images and videos he sees. Why would he try to look elsewhere? Why would he not feel that they are accurate? Why would he question the accuracy of them in the first place? Our perception forms our reality, and if you partake of porn on a regular basis, it will warp your reality whether you want it to or not.

He should question the accuracy of them because he should have the critical thought to realize that their purpose is not to accurately convey information, but to arouse and entertain.

Now, I have some sympathy for those who get poor advice from magazines like Cosmopolitan, because it might reasonably be thought that the purpose of those is to inform. But that does not apply to pornography. Taking sex information from a pornographic movie is similar to getting your information on evolution from an X-Men movie.

I don't think it's a ridiculous standard to realize when something is clearly trying to entertain rather than inform (when the lines are not intentionally blurred - which they are not, for most pornographic material). I understand most people won't, but I don't think that makes the standard unreasonable.

If anything, I think it's a sign we should do more to teach critical thought at earlier ages.

Disclaimer: I am obviously an outsider here. Not being attracted to humans, I do not consume regular pornography. So perhaps I would be better off remaining silent on the issue. Again though, for how much I felt it necessary to research the topic, given my own orientation, it rubs me the wrong way that most people do not do anything at all in that regard. That's all.

Sorrowless said:
How does romantic comics work for you?

i like them

Aster_Viridian said:
An interesting hypothetical question would be if you would take away all friction in sex and get perpetual motion in return, and also have a way to get energy from it, would you do it? That would solve our energy needs forever, but we are the way we are for a reason, and it wouldn't be wise to give up our humanity.

It wouldn't be a big sacrifice. The pleasure of sex is but a small part of being human. The current type of human, anyways. There are many ways we could handle this. We could let time go without any action and the younger generation would grow up without any experience of sex. For sexual urges you could masturbate or have sex without using your genitals but would that be cheating? And what are the criteria? Your sex organ have no friction, making stimulation impossible?
I suppose sexual urges would be easier to handle as you have no choice but to adapt. And it helps to have never experienced any big genital pleasure. Instead of sex, intimacy and romance would fill its place. Doesn't sound too bad.
A few women are able to get orgasm by thought alone. Bet a lot of people would be jealous.

How would we reproduce you say? We could gather sperm from wet dreams or something similar. Or we could reproduce by cloning. Sperm or other cells from the father given that function could be inserted into the womb of women or we could start creating artificial wombs.

An alternative to handle life without sex would be to genetically alter humans to be asexual.

Aster_Viridian said:
Um, what religions are those, exactly?

the catholic church for one.

looking around on google, i wound up on this page. HIV and AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa regional overview also see section ten of this page they used for reference, Stigma of People with HIV/AIDS in Sub-Saharan Africa: A Literature Review

various religions and/or religion in general.

when has religion NOT regarded 2 people fucking as something sacred? i wonder how long people had to fight and struggle against religion just for the invention of condoms. let alone other forms of protection related to sexual activities.

Aster_Viridian said:
Um, what religions are those, exactly?

Christianity.

2010: The pope says using a condom might be okay in some very specific cases.^{[Source]]
2016: The pope says it is okay to use a condom to slow down the spread of the zika virus.[Source]]Well, you could say it's more the catholic church than all of Christianity, but they do make up the bulk in Africa and most 3rd world countries.}

Aster_Viridian said:
How am I lenient? In saying that porn is the reason people have so little understanding of sex? It's true though! I mean, think of some kid on here (of which there are many, my former self included) who's only education of actual sex is the images and videos he sees. Why would he try to look elsewhere? Why would he not feel that they are accurate? Why would he question the accuracy of them in the first place? Our perception forms our reality, and if you partake of porn on a regular basis, it will warp your reality whether you want it to or not.

That's like saying watching a lot of Throne of Games will make you rape and murder people left and right. Or that watching Harry Potter will make you believe in magic.
The large problem with porn is that young kids find it and aren't told it's unrealistic, or that they don't question if it's realistic until they do have sex. That is something that could be easily avoided by either having parents or teacher take a short stab at pointing out that porn is supposed to be entertaining and not to be realistic. There is realistic porn out there, but it's usually hidden behind amateur stuff from private persons, and not created by large production teams.
Also, I'm obviously ignoring the whole superstimulation aspect of porn, since that's not the focus right now.

Aster_Viridian said:
I apologize. I am sick as a dog right now and words look funny.

I wouldn't, but that's what indentured servants are for.

NotMeNotYou said:
Christianity.

2010: The pope says using a condom might be okay in some very specific cases.^{[Source]]
2016: The pope says it is okay to use a condom to slow down the spread of the zika virus.[Source]]Well, you could say it's more the catholic church than all of Christianity, but they do make up the bulk in Africa and most 3rd world countries.}

Catholic is also the most practiced religion in the US.

What about the spread of Islam in Africa? Any good at combating aids?

In regards to kids learning from movies, they aren't critical when something is presented as facts. Take that example from X-Men when Storm is educating about the neanderthals. Movies based on historical events can also be riddled with inaccuracies.

Mutisija said:
i like them

Thanks the answers. They've been informative, though you probably don't speak for all asexuals.
If you were blindfolded, would sex feel better?

Sorrowless said:
It doesn't help that religions are taking advantage of the continent, with their disapproval of safe sex. It doesn't help either that humanitarian aid condoms have been faulty, giving them a bad rep.

You are ignoring that the Catholic Church and various missions have done more to support Africa than just about anyone else.

Easy to criticize and disparage from an armchair. You think Africans need condoms? Support charities that provide them instead of demanding that a massive, 2000-year old organization- that you aren't a member of- turn on a dime.

Fenrick said:
You are ignoring that the Catholic Church and various missions have done more to support Africa than just about anyone else.

Easy to criticize and disparage from an armchair. You think Africans need condoms? Support charities that provide them instead of demanding that a massive, 2000-year old organization- that you aren't a member of- turn on a dime.

Whatever happens we're all going to hell anyway. Even Christians like me. I personally am only one because I'm afraid of the possibility of a hell. I wish we could be certain there is no afterlife but thats something we don't know until we're dead. Fuck logic even physical forces defy logic. I can't fuckin live with the torture of fearing hell. It's not justified. I fucking hate life bcs of this

Sorrowless said:
though you probably don't speak for all asexuals.

yeah, i dont. this is just how i personally experience sex stuff.

If you were blindfolded, would sex feel better?

no. its the way it feels that makes it disgusting and uncomfortable.

TruckNutz said:
I personally am only one because I'm afraid of the possibility of a hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Lance_Armstrong said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Why do I even stay here then. Why would any of us stay here while believing there might possibly be a punishment for this. I'm not being a preacher I'm just not getting why you and I are still here

TruckNutz said:
Whatever happens we're all going to hell anyway. Even Christians like me. I personally am only one because I'm afraid of the possibility of a hell. I wish we could be certain there is no afterlife but thats something we don't know until we're dead. Fuck logic even physical forces defy logic. I can't fuckin live with the torture of fearing hell. It's not justified. I fucking hate life bcs of this

If fear is the only thing keeping somebody in check, that's a pretty good indicator of being awful.

Does anyone really believe an omniscient judge won't take sincerity into account?

And that's all I'm gonna say about that

Knotty_Curls said:
If fear is the only thing keeping somebody in check, that's a pretty good indicator of being awful.

Does anyone really believe an omniscient judge won't take sincerity into account?

And that's all I'm gonna say about that

Being awful? How am I the one who's awful I'm the one living in fear!!!

Fenrick said:
You are ignoring that the Catholic Church and various missions have done more to support Africa than just about anyone else.

Easy to criticize and disparage from an armchair. You think Africans need condoms? Support charities that provide them instead of demanding that a massive, 2000-year old organization- that you aren't a member of- turn on a dime.

Don't forget that the Christian church brought widespread oppression of black people and woman, multiple wars, colonialism, diamond mines, and other death traps with them. No organisation is perfect, but the church brought a lot of trouble to Africa before they started actually doing good work with raising the level of education and health standards.

Let's not with the religious discussion.

Fenrick said:
You are ignoring that the Catholic Church and various missions have done more to support Africa than just about anyone else.

Easy to criticize and disparage from an armchair. You think Africans need condoms? Support charities that provide them instead of demanding that a massive, 2000-year old organization- that you aren't a member of- turn on a dime.

It comes with a price; indoctrination.

TruckNutz said:
Whatever happens we're all going to hell anyway. Even Christians like me. I personally am only one because I'm afraid of the possibility of a hell. I wish we could be certain there is no afterlife but thats something we don't know until we're dead. Fuck logic even physical forces defy logic. I can't fuckin live with the torture of fearing hell. It's not justified. I fucking hate life bcs of this

Relax pal. There is no hell. Just use your logic. There are no evidence. Why belive in a negative? Try reading the bible sometime. It's a good way to turn you away from it.

Ratte said:
Let's not with the religious discussion.

Only good can come out of it in the long term.

Sorrowless said:
Only good can come out of it in the long term.

I wasn't asking. It ends here.

another article

"The Catholic Church still strongly opposes the use of condoms in Africa, which is home to 135 million Catholics. In Kenya, local Bishops have instead recommended that abstinence, "counseling" and "ethics" are used to prevent the spread of HIV, instead of condoms."

except, abstinence, counseling, and ethics probably do nothing in the way of preventing STDs whereas using condoms likely DOES help prevent STDs.

<.< maybe if they pray enough something will help them and that's as far as i'm gonna go on that thought.

edit:

Ratte said:
I wasn't asking. It ends here.

ok

Lock this thread then.
Now.

TruckNutz said:
Lock this thread then.
Now.

What are you saying? Why? This thread have been excellent. Won't it suffice to end the religious discussion?

Sorrowless said:
What are you saying? Why? This thread have been excellent. Won't it suffice to end the religious discussion?

This thread has been anything but excellent.

NotMeNotYou said:
Being asexual doesn't necessarily mean that they have no sex drive, it's just that they aren't romantically or sexual lyrics interested in relationships.
Though a lot of them do have a weaker sex drive.

Wait a sec...

Question: So let's say that someone doesn't like actual sex at all, but they do enjoy masturbation and even the idea of aided masturbation.(masturbation in which a partner takes over certain tasks like, say, foot-rubbing, moving the dildo in and out, etc. While they just lay back and enjoy it.) Now let's say that this person also has relatively low libido, especially for their age. (While they may still be in their late teens/early 20's, they only really get "in the mood" to masturbate every week or so.) Now let's factor in that if a partner really REALLY wanted sex, they would do it, but only to make the partner happy and they probably would actually hate it the entire time.

Given all of that, is that person considered Asexual?

Kristal_Candeo said:
Wait a sec...

Question: So let's say that someone doesn't like actual sex at all, but they do enjoy masturbation and even the idea of aided masturbation.(masturbation in which a partner takes over certain tasks like, say, foot-rubbing, moving the dildo in and out, etc. While they just lay back and enjoy it.) Now let's say that this person also has relatively low libido, especially for their age. (While they may still be in their late teens/early 20's, they only really get "in the mood" to masturbate every week or so.) Now let's factor in that if a partner really REALLY wanted sex, they would do it, but only to make the partner happy and they probably would actually hate it the entire time.

Given all of that, is that person considered Asexual?

If so it explains SO much.

if person does not experience sexual attraction, they are asexual regardless of their libido or what sort of sexual activities they are or are not comfortable with.

TruckNutz said:
Lock this thread then.
Now.

You know admins do not wish to be given orders, right?

TruckNutz said:
This thread has been anything but excellent.

It's too bad you feel that way. I assume this is because we started talking about religion. We won't discuss it any more here, but it's not something you can escape from. Your fears and faith is something you will have to deal with eventually unless you want it be to like this. Whichever path we choose is alright as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. I'm here if there is anything you want to talk about...

(Is it alright to mention religion in a fashion like this?)

Sorrowless said:
(Is it alright to mention religion in a fashion like this?)

Lol we're probably on the shitlist

PM is fine, but keep it off the forum.

Mutisija said:
if person does not experience sexual attraction, they are asexual regardless of their libido or what sort of sexual activities they are or are not comfortable with.

Thanks. I'm glad I know this know. Like I said before, it actually explains alot.

Wow, I'm kind of suprised at how few girls seem to be on e621.

*Forever alone*

Cuddledump said:
*Forever alone*

We are all alone;
sometimes we find someone to share our aloneness with.

Aloneness beats loneliness every time.

Mutisija said:
it just feels really good. but literally everything else about sex makes me feel uncomfortable and sick.

and just because i am unable to experience sexual attraction and i find the thought of me taking part to sexual acts with other people repulsive doesn't mean that i cannot enjoy porn.

I find it interesting that you like that part. More people would find the cum part to be more disgusting than the sex.
Do you masturbate, or does that also fall into the disgusting category for you?

Sorrowless said:
I find it interesting that you like that part. More people would find the cum part to be more disgusting than the sex.
Do you masturbate, or does that also fall into the disgusting category for you?

only doing sexual things with other people disgusts me (or just makes me feel uncomfortable in some cases)

Ive been with a few women in my younger years "not actualy that old" but it depends on the girl. some girls act like sperm is the best thing ever and others would rather bathe in rotten eggs then have you cum in,on, near them. ive seen both sides. on a personal note my eldist sisters friend had her tubes tide and lets just say she reeeeeeaaaaaly likes men.

Sharp_Coyote said:
We are all alone;
sometimes we find someone to share our aloneness with.

Aloneness beats loneliness every time.

what was that saying, true loneliness is a choice? while i would choose being left alone to my own devices and only interacting with the world at large indirectly (like this) every time if the option presented itself, the world, unfortunately, usually doesn't work like that. which tends to leave me generally annoyed and/or pissed at those around for a number of reasons.

why do you people have to act in such stupid ways or make such idiotic demands of me just so you don't have to do something yourself? if something is so stupidly simple and easy to do just as your walking by, DO IT YOURSELF! don't try to get me to do it FOR you. >:( kindness is one thing but that is just stupid and lazy. *returns to bedroom so as to be left alone*

I acually just hate cum in my mouth now that i think about it, i hate slimey or gooey textured, but I know a gay guy who hates cum, it takes all kinds.

why do you people have to act in such stupid ways or make such idiotic demands of me just so you don't have to do something yourself? if something is so stupidly simple and easy to do just as your walking by, DO IT YOURSELF! don't try to get me to do it FOR you. >:( kindness is one thing but that is just stupid and lazy. *returns to bedroom so as to be left alone*

Sounds like retail! But yes most are assholes.

stupidsexyrobes said:
Girl's preference: I'd definitely prefer to have him cum inside of me. It's always been a preference really, just seems so intimate and would make me feel 'claimed'

Nice of you to drop by. Your reasoning made me think why not everyone would prefer it. I find girls who visits porn sites interesting, so maybe you're having some sway over me ;)

Sorrowless said:
Nice of you to drop by. Your reasoning made me think why not everyone would prefer it. I find girls who visits porn sites interesting, so maybe you're having some sway over me ;)

Why do you feel that way? It seems like a lot of women visit porn sites, I see alot more on, say pornhub, it just seems like less in furry porn for some reason.

Cuddledump said:
Why do you feel that way? It seems like a lot of women visit porn sites, I see alot more on, say pornhub, it just seems like less in furry porn for some reason.

Why? Well, that there are few of them is a factor. Then there's that they have a different viewpoint. What do they find sexy? Or simply attractive. Society also have the view that women are more emotional. More complex, even. This adds to the contrast.

There are the more known reasons why there are less women on porn sites, such as that they generally find it more morally wrong and that they have less urges than men. I have also learned that women prefer the more romantic and sensible porn. They also spend less time sitting at home. The feelings of immorality on porn are decreasing, though.
I think there are less girls on furry porn because they spend less time discovering their sexuality and developing the more 'unusual' kinks.

Forgive me if you think I hold stereotypical- or simple wrong views. I wouldn't mind it at all to be corrected on any of these stances.

stupidsexyrobes said:
Girl's preference: I'd definitely prefer to have him cum inside of me. It's always been a preference really, just seems so intimate and would make me feel 'claimed'

That sounds like the kind of response this thread was looking for.

Sorrowless said:
Why? Well, that there are few of them is a factor. Then there's that they have a different viewpoint. What do they find sexy? Or simply attractive. Society also have the view that women are more emotional. More complex, even. This adds to the contrast.

There are the more known reasons why there are less women on porn sites, such as that they generally find it more morally wrong and that they have less urges than men. I have also learned that women prefer the more romantic and sensible porn. They also spend less time sitting at home. The feelings of immorality on porn are decreasing, though.
I think there are less girls on furry porn because they spend less time discovering their sexuality and developing the more 'unusual' kinks.

Forgive me if you think I hold stereotypical- or simple wrong views. I wouldn't mind it at all to be corrected on any of these stances.

Not offended, just curious. You're probably right, in that regard that women don't get to develop as many kinks, or I'd they do have "weirder" kinks, they don't talk about it.

I don't really like the "female friendly" porn section on porn sites or more romantic things in media, but I also find I'm not like a lot of my female friends or even some of my more flamboyant gay male friends when it comes to romantic movies and such, but that's just me. I have tons of kinks, but most of the ones I hear from my irl female friends are basically just bondage [Thanks Fifty Shades of Shit]

I think the responses you'll find here won't be a good representation of most women though, but who knows.

Tldr; I find those views incorrect for my but I can't really speak for your average woman because furry porn.

Pregnancy doesn't really scare me, but the no STD's part is very much a yes.
But considering the no pregnancy option sure why not, that just means more action with less consequences I see no downsides in this.

Ojou said:
Pregnancy doesn't really scare me, but the no STD's part is very much a yes.
But considering the no pregnancy option sure why not, that just means more action with less consequences I see no downsides in this.

Welcome to the forum. Very nice to have another female opinion on this.
A few downsides mentioned earlier is that it can be experienced as icky and messy.
Perhaps I should rephrase my original question. Is it sexier to be cummed in or on? I assume you already gave your answer.

Flygon said:
I'm mildly curious how many woman may think about, say, a bisexual man with even preference for either gender, being outright AFRAID to do it with a woman.

Whether the fear is societal, or that the woman would hold them to hostage, or... something.

I'm not explaining myself well. Basically - It seems less dangerous/scary to fuck another dude. Do the woman find this notion amusing? Baffling? I'm curious.

I dunno, I don't really feel much about someone's sexual choices if I'm not dating them. But I don't really understand it, either, but I find that a lot of bi guys don't go after women much because "guys are easier" or easier to understand and it's sucky, at least for me because I would really like to date a bi guy, but seems like they're unicorns where I live, or just date guys.

Mutisija said:

How do you view attractiveness? Say, if a guy is muscular, does it fall within sexual attraction or general attraction/beauty?

Sorrowless said:
How do you view attractiveness? Say, if a guy is muscular, does it fall within sexual attraction or general attraction/beauty?

i dont really understand your question but. i cannot feel sexual attraction. like someone can find muscular guy purely sexually attractive but i cannot. the attraction i am able to feel can be sensual attraction, romantic attraction, aesthetic attraction or platonic attraction. or combination of all or some of them. it depends a lot of situation.

also thats how it works for most of other people too, its just that non-asexual non-aromantic people rarely bother to try identify the attraction they feel and usually lump sexual, romantic, aesthetic and sensual attraction together.

Mutisija said:
i dont really understand your question but. i cannot feel sexual attraction. like someone can find muscular guy purely sexually attractive but i cannot. the attraction i am able to feel can be sensual attraction, romantic attraction, aesthetic attraction or platonic attraction. or combination of all or some of them. it depends a lot of situation.

also thats how it works for most of other people too, its just that non-asexual non-aromantic people rarely bother to try identify the attraction they feel and usually lump sexual, romantic, aesthetic and sensual attraction together.

I was trying to ask if you can find something simply attractive. Does some features look good? The question feels a bit obvious with a little more thought. It would surprise me if asexual people saw everyone as equally bland regardless of body types and such.

Regular people don't lump together the types of attractions that much. You're about half right.

Inside.

Besides being easier to clean up... it's very intimate and comforting to me; a shortlived reminder of the time we shared together and how it felt being so close.

Also I have a bit of an exhibitionist kink, so if I happen to be out in public right afterwards the feeling is much more intense.

Flygon said:
I'm mildly curious how many woman may think about, say, a bisexual man with even preference for either gender, being outright AFRAID to do it with a woman.

Whether the fear is societal, or that the woman would hold them to hostage, or... something.

I'm not explaining myself well. Basically - It seems less dangerous/scary to fuck another dude. Do the woman find this notion amusing? Baffling? I'm curious.

Understandable.

Regardless of the reason behind the fear, if someone is more anxious in the heat of the moment they won't be able to truly "let loose", resulting in an experience that isn't as enjoyable for them.

Sorrowless said:
I was trying to ask if you can find something simply attractive. Does some features look good? The question feels a bit obvious with a little more thought. It would surprise me if asexual people saw everyone as equally bland regardless of body types and such.

Regular people don't lump together the types of attractions that much. You're about half right.

alright. and yeah, i can find people attractive and i do find some physical features attractive. its just.. dont get aroused from seeing physically attractive people. i might wanna touch and kiss them all over and just appreciate and worship their beauty but i dont get aroused from sight of good looking body. like at all. and i have zero desire to have sex with them.

Mutisija said:
stuff

hmmm...you know, seeing your posts here has had me thinking... truth be told, outside of looking at and listening to NSFW stuff such as the content on this site (and even then it's pretty much only when i'm in the mood for it) my interest in such things tends to be...0. sure i'm curious about doing such things with another person sometimes but the thought of going through with it? bleh -_- thinking about that grosses me out a good bit regardless of how it might feel (and that's assuming i'd feel much...down there...anyway. >.>).

is that really what i want when i know full well that artificial means would keep me quite content or possibly just as entertained? regardless, seeing as i'm 28 and have never had sex before, can i really say i'm missing out on much if i don't even know what i'd be missing out on?

treos said:
is that really what i want when i know full well that artificial means would keep me quite content or possibly just as entertained? regardless, seeing as i'm 28 and have never had sex before, can i really say i'm missing out on much if i don't even know what i'd be missing out on?

"Television is our new exterior brain, one day it will be a standard fitting within every skull on earth, each brain an electronic star in a transmitted milky way. Galaxies of dreams and information, people will become more comfortable with televisual reality than that of their daily lives. Television is already MORE REAL than life. A new synthetic material, giving all people infinite access to infinite alternate realities"

don't sweat it

I don't really find any human features particularly attractive or otherwise. Never felt any sexual attraction to anyone or anything regardless of its appearance, regardless of my age. The most interest I have is romantic or platonic, and it doesn't really go any further. Took me a long time to figure out why.

Makes the whole "you should find a nice man" and "how many children are you going to have?" comments/questions more irritating, though.

Asexuals. Asexuals everywhere. Hiding where you would least expect it.

Sorrowless said:
Asexuals. Asexuals everywhere. Hiding where you would least expect it.

we live in a truly strange world these days. on the one hand we have transgenders (sorry parasprite and mutisija, i won't cause any trouble over that (here at least) but that still, and probably won't ever, doesn't sit quite right with my mind. irl m-preg for example is downright disturbing and unnatural to my mind...) and on the other we have those of us who aren't really attracted to anything sexually. and then theres all the "normal" people caught in the middle.

though the question of why we are even on a site like this if hardly anything arouses us in that way does remain a good one. o_O why?

edit: oh, right, there was something else i was going to say before. where is that one pic of Sans and Toriel where sans says "there is absolutely nothing happening down there"? that pretty much sums things up when i'm browsing through NSFW stuff around here and not really in the mood to actually do anything.

One thing I wonder about transsexuals is why they usually aren't comfortable with their own body if they are adults. So you think you are the opposite gender mentally, so what? We live in a society where we don't have to follow gender roles anymore. Can't you just be your physical gender and think differently? If I was suddenly sitting here with my body being of the other gender, it would be new and a bit confusing, but nothing I couldn't get used to. I wouldn't change my habits.

I'm aware that I may just simply not get it but I don't mind to be corrected.
Could it be that transgender people are not comfortable with themselves because of the way they grew up? If they never got the change to be get relatively comfortable with themselves and mature I can see how they would carry over their insecurity.

If boys and girls grew up with reversed gender roles, wouldn't they identify with this social construct? How and when does a transgender person get the "idea" that they are the other gender?

Ratte said:
Makes the whole "you should find a nice man" and "how many children are you going to have?" comments/questions more irritating, though.

Oh man I can empathize with you here, though our situations differ a bit. Even worse, when you try to explain that you're not interested, the inevitable "You'll change your mind".

Clawdragons said:
Oh man I can empathize with you here, though our situations differ a bit. Even worse, when you try to explain that you're not interested, the inevitable "You'll change your mind".

Good point. We still have expectations and norms in society. I've had to deal with things like that, too.

Sorrowless said:
stuff

I've been trying to avoid this topic because it's steering into territory that I've had bad experience with here, but catching up on it now I noticed that you've got a few questions I might be able to answer regarding trans* stuff.

I'm not trans, though I have a bit of gender oddity, as I might or might not have explained before... So I'm not sure if I'm the sort of person you want to hear about on the issue, or if you'd rather hear from someone else specifically.

Sorrowless said:
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I'm aware that I may just simply not get it but I don't mind to be corrected.
Could it be that transgender people are not comfortable with themselves because of the way they grew up? If they never got the change to be get relatively comfortable with themselves and mature I can see how they would carry over their insecurity.

If boys and girls grew up with reversed gender roles, wouldn't they identify with this social construct? How and when does a transgender person get the "idea" that they are the other gender?

My landlord and good friend works with 'troubled' kids as a social worker/teacher, and my roommate is a trans guy. Both have indicated to me that a traumatic event (and not the rejection of traditional gender roles) is often central to the formation of a transgendered personality; YMMV.

I also empathize with Ratte when it comes to not wanting/having kids, as it relates to comments of 'not having found the right person yet' ...
(Mom, I love you, and I need you to stop badgering me)

Also, this is off topic, and in no way meant as a slight to Hudson ... parasprite, I am super glad you are back from the Developer Side of The Force.

Clawdragons said:
I've been trying to avoid this topic because it's steering into territory that I've had bad experience with here, but catching up on it now I noticed that you've got a few questions I might be able to answer regarding trans* stuff.

I'm not trans, though I have a bit of gender oddity, as I might or might not have explained before... So I'm not sure if I'm the sort of person you want to hear about on the issue, or if you'd rather hear from someone else specifically.

I wouldn't mind hearing your opinion.

Sharp_Coyote said:
My landlord and good friend works with 'troubled' kids as a social worker/teacher, and my roommate is a trans guy. Both have indicated to me that a traumatic event (and not the rejection of traditional gender roles) is often central to the formation of a transgendered personality; YMMV.

I also empathize with Ratte when it comes to not wanting/having kids, as it relates to comments of 'not having found the right person yet' ...
(Mom, I love you, and I need you to stop badgering me)

Also, this is off topic, and in no way meant as a slight to Hudson ... parasprite, I am super glad you are back from the Developer Side of The Force.

Interesting.

I have chosen to not have kids and find a partner myself. Open to the possibility of having a relation someday, but I'm not actively seeking it. I've had the 'not having found the right person yet' talk with my mom as well. She have stopped, though as I'm very clear about my standpoint.

I know I'm off topic, but I hope I can get a few answers and go on without it spiraling out of control.

Well, first I think you ought to understand that there's a difference between transgender and transsexual.

Transgender has more to do with societal role, while transsexual has more to do with your own body.

For someone who's transsexual, it's not a matter of thinking differently, or gender roles... Or, well, it might be, but that's not all. Being transsexual implies a dissatisfaction with one's body...

If you have trouble imagining why that might be... Imagine, for a moment, that you had a growth on your arm. A big bulbous thing that got in your way, and that generally you weren't happy with. It's understandable that you wouldn't be happy with such a thing, right? It would not be strange to want to remove such a thing, right? You would no longer feel uncomfortable having it there.

How is that so different from disliking your genitals? Think about it in those terms - there is a part of your body that just does not seem like it belongs. It feels like there should be something else there.

I suppose that's maybe not the best analogy, but I can't think of anything better right now. It really has nothing to do with being an adult or not though, but with how your body conflicts with how it feels like things are "supposed to be".

Now, not everyone feels so strongly about their bodies in this regard. I, for one, would be perfectly happy with the opposite genitalia than I have - arguably even more so - but I'm not uncomfortable with what I've got. You might be in a similar situation, where you'd be fine with either, but that's not the state of affairs for most people.

I don't know. Does any of that help in the slightest?

Clawdragons said:
Good stuff.

That makes sense. Thanks for the clarifying the difference. There are people who have the, um, mental illness? of not liking a certain body part and are much happier once they amputate it.
In the case of genitals, do transsexuals just want their genitals changed or do they also want to behave and dress as the other gender?

Sorrowless said:
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarifying the difference. There are people who have the, um, mental illness? of not liking a certain body part and are much happier once they amputate it.
In the case of genitals, do transsexuals just want their genitals changed or do they also want to behave and dress as the other gender?

I think it can be either, but generally behaving as the gender they are transitioning into is significant, if for no other reason than it asserts themselves as part of that gender.

To put it another way, if it's important enough that you'd like to have a surgery over it, you probably are going to want to go the rest of the way as well.

Sorrowless said:
Asexuals. Asexuals everywhere. Hiding where you would least expect it.

You discovered our secret hiding place. :V

EVERYONE SCATTER!