Should there be two different tags for the two main types of motorcycles?

There are usually "motorcycles" Shown here:
post #1085202

And what most people call "Sport Bikes" Shown here:
post #450707

Should there be two different tags for these types of motorcycles? Or at least, a secondary tag to describe sport bikes specifically.

I mean technically these tags could get even more in-depth. Because there's touring bikes, naked bikes, sport bikes, motorcycles, choppers, drag bikes, dirt bikes. But it seems like separating the two main types of bikes. "Harley" style bikes vs "Kawasaki" style bikes would be helpful for those who enjoy that sorta thing.

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But really, I don't think we should specify each bike

Ratte said:
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Knotty_Curls said:
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TheHuskyK9 said:
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All of these work yes but I think Sport_Bike might be better fitting.

Or Death_cycle

TheHuskyK9 said:
But really, I don't think we should specify each bike

Well not every type of bike. But there are two specific styles that are the most popular. "Harley" type bikes that most people refer to as "motorcycles" and "Sport bikes" which are a more modern, stylish and faster version of a "motorcycle"

Speaking as someone with no experience with motorcycles, they look basically the same to me. How about a set for the fancy bikes?

Cynosure said:
Well not every type of bike. But there are two specific styles that are the most popular. "Harley" type bikes that most people refer to as "motorcycles" and "Sport bikes" which are a more modern, stylish and faster version of a "motorcycle"

"Harley" type of motorcycles are called Crusier/Touring motorcycles

TheHuskyK9 said:
"Harley" type of motorcycles are called Crusier/Touring motorcycles

I thought touring bikes were the sitting sport version of bikes. Like this:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/blgYfmWcMrU/maxresdefault.jpg

Cruiser seems to bring up the right kinda cycles on google.

leomole said:
Speaking as someone with no experience with motorcycles, they look basically the same to me. How about a set for the fancy bikes?

How does this:
post #1063792

Look the same as this:

post #216936

To you?

Do you not notice the difference in ride height, style, body, technology, all that?

And what do you mean by "fancy bikes"

Cynosure said:
How does post #1063792 look the same as post #216936 to you?

Two wheels, a seat, handles, an exhaust thing ... Like I said, I only know enough to call a motorcycle a motorcycle.

Cynosure said:
Do you not notice the difference in ride height, style, body, technology, all that?

Not really. I'm looking for what you call ride height and honestly I'm not seeing it, certainly not to the extent that it defines a distinction between two tags. The clearest difference to me, the general user, is that they're different colors. And we do tag that, but only on characters.

Cynosure said:
And what do you mean by "fancy bikes"

What you said, "sport bikes which are a more modern, stylish and faster version of a motorcycle."

I think it's clear that you're very enthusiastic about motorcycles and that's great, I just don't think the general user is going to be best served by us making new tags for every kind of motorcycle or every type of car or every variety of tree. That's why I recommend making a set for your favorite motorcycles.

Ratte said:
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Knotty_Curls said:
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TheHuskyK9 said:
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"Auto_mounts" or "Motor_mounts"

I think the difference is whether the seat is at or below handlebar height.

leomole said:
Two wheels, a seat, handles, an exhaust thing ... Like I said, I only know enough to call a motorcycle a motorcycle.

Not really. I'm looking for what you call ride height and honestly I'm not seeing it, certainly not to the extent that it defines a distinction between two tags.

By ride height I don't mean how far the body is from the road, but how far YOU are from the road. The seat is much higher on sport bikes (the green one) and you lean forward resting your chest on the gas tank (right between the handles and the seat the bulge in the bodywork) Where as in a "motorcycle" (harley bikes/cruiser bikes) you sit down on your ass, your hands reach foward grabbing the handles and you lean back sitting upright. Your rear is typically much closer to the road as the main engine is usually in front of you and below you.

Furrin_Gok said:
I think the difference is whether the seat is at or below handlebar height.

There's also speed in general (both acceleration and top speed. Sport bikes (the green one I linked in the comments) are much faster in all ways especially acceleration.

Mostly the reason for suggesting the tag is the looks. Some people think the harley type bikes look better, some (meeeeee) think the sport bikes (kawasaki and the like) look better. So naturally since we're looking at porn pics here, looks kinda matter.

Interesting, a discussion on different motorcycle types and no one's mentioned dirt bikes yet.

post #400646

This and the ones previously shown are all motorcycles. They simply fall into different categories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_motorcycles

leomole said:
I think it's clear that you're very enthusiastic about motorcycles and that's great, I just don't think the general user is going to be best served by us making new tags for every kind of motorcycle or every type of car or every variety of tree. That's why I recommend making a set for your favorite motorcycles.

If the types are distinct enough, I see no harm in making tags for them. Some cars already get this treatment.

BlueDingo said:
If the types are distinct enough, I see no harm in making tags for them. Some cars already get this treatment.

This.

Not a bike person but the difference seems pretty clear.

As long as there's a blanket tag for all of them (motorcycle, obviously) and somebody actually takes the responsibility of tagging these properly once in awhile, I see no problem

Fenrick said:
As long as there's a blanket tag for all of them (motorcycle, obviously) and somebody actually takes the responsibility of tagging these properly once in awhile, I see no problem

How should we go about naming the types? Looking through the wikipedia page, there is:

• Standard / naked bikes / roadsters
• Muscle bike
• Cruiser (ie. Harley)
• Power cruiser
• Sport bike
• Touring / Touring motorcycle (police motorcycles are often these)
• Sport touring (A sport/touring hybrid)
• Dual-sport / Dual-sport motorcycle (A off-road/sport hybrid)
• Scooter
• Underbone
• Moped (this one might go into the bicycle category)
• Off-road (currently tagged as dirtbike, sometimes called Trial Bikes)

Then there's the Honda CT110, also known as a Postie Bike, which looks like a naked/underbone hybrid.

It's like guns. We aren't going to tag each and every model or year, but we can tag the general forms.

I know. I only mentioned Honda CT110 because it's an anomaly that's commonly used and has a well known nickname (in Australia at least). The other ones listed are types.

BlueDingo said:
I know. I only mentioned Honda CT110 because it's an anomaly that's commonly used and has a well known nickname (in Australia at least). The other ones listed are types.

That was actually in support of your stance. :p

Furrin_Gok said:
That was actually in support of your stance. :p

Oh... Either way, we need to decide what to tag each type. Some entries on that list have multiple names and scooter refers to two different things.

BlueDingo said:
Oh... Either way, we need to decide what to tag each type. Some entries on that list have multiple names and scooter refers to two different things.

Just taking the couple main blanket terms would be best.

Dirt_bike refering to this sort of bike:
post #400646

Motorcycle refering to this sort of bike:
post #1085202

Sport_bike refering to this sort of bike:
post #1069516

Technically this is called a "naked" bike, but that might be weird to tag:
post #1033494

And lastly Touring_bike
But I can't find an image to reference this sort of bike so here is a google pic:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/blgYfmWcMrU/maxresdefault.jpg

I think we need to keep motorcycle as the umbrella tag for all of those. Is there another name with the same sense as motorcycle referring to the sort of vehicle seen in post #1085202?

Ratte said:
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Knotty_Curls said:
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TheHuskyK9 said:
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motorcycle

• roadster_bike/roaster_motorcycle (post #1085202)
• cruiser_bike/cruiser_motorcycle (post #1063792)
• sport_bike/sport_motorcycle (post #216936)
• touring_bike/touring motorcycle
• sport_touring_bike/sport_touring_motorcycle
• dual_sport_bike/dual_sport_motorcycle
• motor_scooter (post #998662)
• underbone (wikipedia)
• moped
• dirt_bike (post #400646)

Most of the identifiable ones I saw were either sport, cruising, roadster or scooter with a few dirt bikes, one possible touring bike and one possible postie bike.

Snowy said:
I think we need to keep motorcycle as the umbrella tag for all of those. Is there another name with the same sense as motorcycle referring to the sort of vehicle seen in post #1085202?

Technically "Cruiser" fits that picture best (as it's harley style sort of. The parts are exposed most of the bodywork is purely for functional reasons and not for ascetics) Also it's a sitting bike not a straddling bike (leaning forward chest on gastank)

Again though, motorcycle should be the central point all these tags would alias to. And the subsections would be a couple of the most popular types of bikes. Avoiding things like "dual_sport_bike" which is sorta specific. And mostly using terms like "Cruiser_bike" - "Sport_bike" - "naked_bike" - "Touring_bike" - "motor_scooter" and "dirt_bike"

Cynosure said:
Technically "Cruiser" fits that picture best (as it's harley style sort of. The parts are exposed most of the bodywork is purely for functional reasons and not for ascetics) Also it's a sitting bike not a straddling bike (leaning forward chest on gastank)

Actually, the only sitting bike in the list is the motor scooter. All the others require you to put your legs on either side of them (ie. straddle them).

Edit: Wiki page for dirt_bike created. Populating tag now... Done.

Compiled an incomplete list of sport_bikes. Confirm before tagging.

Wiki page for motor_scooter created. Populating tag now... Done.

After this is sorted out, we should consider making a tag group for vehicles or possibly transportation in general. That way, these tags and many more will be in one place.

I'm throwing a small list together in the vehicle page for now, but a more comprehensive group page would be better.

BlueDingo said:
Actually, the only sitting bike in the list is the motor scooter. All the others require you to put your legs on either side of them (ie. straddle them).

When I say sitting, I mean not laying your chest on the gastank of the bike. Sport bikes have a specific position, they are seated on the bike leaning forward with their chest either right above, or right on the gas tank depending on its size and the persons size.

Where as a harley, or a bike such as the one I pointed out. You would be seated directly on your rear, leaning back with your arms outstretched to the handles. Your back would be near 90* or at least somewhat straight maybe with even a bit of leaning back depending on the handles. Since this is the typical way you would "Sit" on a chair, I'm referring to it as a seated bike.