BlueDingo said:
Considering much of your content features dragons getting raped and murdered, this doesn't surprise me much.

^

That, right there. Inanna Eloah does a ton of SUPER niche content that a lot of people simply don't like. When that's the stuff most people see of you, regardless of your skill or talent, then that's what they associate you with, and most people /don't/ want to pay for that sort of stuff.

I mean, just like at Whitekitten, for instance. Hardly /anyone/ is funding their Paetreon, so the only way they're pumping out the art they love is through super expensive artists that are willing to draw it, their own talent, and their own money, they've already admitted to spending /tens of thousands/ of dollars on what they like in a 8 year period.

So you either try to target people that are into the stuff you are whom also have tons of money, or you start shifting your "look" online to be more in line with what a larger majority of people would want to commission, it's really advertising 101. Your target audience is too small and unwilling or incapable of paying, so you need to either re-target or broaden your audience.

AnotherDay said:
That, right there. Inanna Eloah does a ton of SUPER niche content that a lot of people simply don't like. When that's the stuff most people see of you, regardless of your skill or talent, then that's what they associate you with, and most people /don't/ want to pay for that sort of stuff.

I believe you are doing a disservice to Inanna Eloah by blaming the niche fetishes rather than the technical quality of the art.

And look, no gore here: https://e621.net/post/index/1/user:InannaEloah%20-rating:e

Commissions aren't lucrative unless you rely on your name. In other news, water is wet. I make fuck all per month, too.

Lance_Armstrong said:
I believe you are doing a disservice to Inanna Eloah by blaming the niche fetishes rather than the technical quality of the art.

Not only that, but I actually get *more* commissions now that I draw that niche art for money. Back when I only ever drew "normal" porn for commissions, I got even less work than I do now.

Ratte said:
Commissions aren't lucrative unless you rely on your name. In other news, water is wet. I make fuck all per month, too.

Tell me something I don't know. Still doesn't make it any easier. If there was another way for me to sell my art that was more lucrative, I'd be looking into it.

Maybe there's an overproduction on furry art?

InannaEloah said:
Tell me something I don't know. Still doesn't make it any easier. If there was another way for me to sell my art that was more lucrative, I'd be looking into it.

The only way I know of is making porn but you already do. I'd almost consider making porn for commissions if I didn't hate making it in the first place. Getting more than "just enough to pay two bills" would be nice.

People who can't tell the difference between "being proud of something" and "considering something superior" and thinks the former is the latter.

BlueDingo said:
People who can't tell the difference between "being proud of something" and "considering something superior" and thinks the former is the latter.

the distinction between patriotism and nationalism, one could say
Redditors would have me believe that owning my country's flag would mean I'm as nationalist as the most ardent supporters of Nazism

The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.

Furrykitten34 said:
The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.

Yet, there are those that do try to 'make the most out of it' only to end up failing to complete what they wanted to be, in essence, fail to capture their dreams and end up rotting in limbo. To make that meaning in life requires ambitiousness, something that is more or less butchered in my life.

I agree with what you two are saying. We are animals and the more technology progresses the more clear this is. We have instincts and modern life may go against the kind of life we were evolved for. The conscience may not want it but the subconscious doesn't care.

Furrykitten34 said:
The reality that the universe is chaotic and unforgiving and that all life is meaningless. The only joy i feel is in materialistic and frivolous objects/activities, that also makes me sad.

Life is meaningless lets make the most out of it.

I've always seen it the opposite. The fact that it probably DOES have meaning and a reason is what stings for me. Whatever it is that planned everything is sick for creating such a mess and failing to fix it. That thing forced my grandfather to watch his son die and his wife sink into the same depression that sped up his dementia and may possibly kill him. It forced my grandmother to lose her son and may possibly force her to bury her son and her husband within the same year. When my other grandmother found someone after losing her husband and seemed to be recovering from her depression, her boyfriend was struck with dementia and now she has to watch HIM slowly die. When my sister, my hero, was so close to graduation, and it looked like at least one of us was going to have a degree, it gave her the same insomnia that took that future from me. I don't think this is part of some plan, but I have a feeling it IS the plan, and there's nothing anyone can do. Even if it isn't the plan itself, nothing can justify it, and it's too late for excuses.

kamimatsu said:
I've always seen it the opposite. The fact that it probably DOES have meaning and a reason is what stings for me. Whatever it is that planned everything is sick for creating such a mess and failing to fix it. That thing forced my grandfather to watch his son die and his wife sink into the same depression that sped up his dementia and may possibly kill him. It forced my grandmother to lose her son and may possibly force her to bury her son and her husband within the same year. When my other grandmother found someone after losing her husband and seemed to be recovering from her depression, her boyfriend was struck with dementia and now she has to watch HIM slowly die. When my sister, my hero, was so close to graduation, and it looked like at least one of us was going to have a degree, it gave her the same insomnia that took that future from me. I don't think this is part of some plan, but I have a feeling it IS the plan, and there's nothing anyone can do. Even if it isn't the plan itself, nothing can justify it, and it's too late for excuses.

Does it frighten you to think that this happens for no reason?

Sorrowless said:
Does it frighten you to think that this happens for no reason?

No. It would comfort me to believe that. I want to be wrong.

kamimatsu said:
No. It would comfort me to believe that. I want to be wrong.

In that case. You can't prove a negative. There are no good evidence for powers that direct people's lives. But you already know this, don't you? You have a feeling you can't shake off.

Sorrowless said:
In that case. You can't prove a negative. There are no good evidence for powers that direct people's lives. But you already know this, don't you? You have a feeling you can't shake off.

I definitely wish there isn't. I don't believe in justice, so obviously a world with no higher power would be the ideal world. I'd rather be a meaningless creature than a celestial fucktoy. As for the feeling I can't shake off, during a near-death experience I thought I saw it, and since then I've felt dead. I stopped being able to feel certain things like pride and wonder. A lot of things are still there, but I don't think most of me made it, and whatever part of me did survive amounts to something sub-human, because it cheated.

"Minimum Quality Standards" Quite an ironic KEK.

people not knowing the definition of irony

Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

That's for when something resembles iron, right?

BlueDingo said:
That's for when something resembles iron, right?

Nah, that's Fey.

Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

I know a good example of what irony actually is

it's not a story the jedi would tell you

Knotty_Curls said:
people not knowing the definition of irony

Or people who don't know there are multiple. You've got:
Dramatic Irony - when the audience knows what the victim doesn't and would have no way of knowing
Situational Irony - The line between this and coincidence is blurry
Cruel Irony - I don't know this definition

And the rest.

EDIT: About what I said about my grandfather possibly dying. He just died this morning. Found out just a few minutes ago. I expected to be a lot more devastated than I was. He was one of the few relatives I actually viewed positively, and no matter how hard I try I can't care that my hero just died. I think I broke.

kamimatsu said:
EDIT: About what I said about my grandfather possibly dying. He just died this morning. Found out just a few minutes ago. I expected to be a lot more devastated than I was. He was one of the few relatives I actually viewed positively, and no matter how hard I try I can't care that my hero just died. I think I broke.

Something similar happened to me recently. We are strangely alike.

Sorrowless said:
Something similar happened to me recently. We are strangely alike.

It's happened once before, after losing my uncle. The day before, I'm breaking down seeing everyone die around me and starting to get Survivor's Guilt. As soon as I hear about it, the first thing I think is "I could really go for some pizza." I think that makes me a terrible person.

kamimatsu said:
It's happened once before, after losing my uncle. The day before, I'm breaking down seeing everyone die around me and starting to get Survivor's Guilt. As soon as I hear about it, the first thing I think is "I could really go for some pizza." I think that makes me a terrible person.

Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

Furrin_Gok said:
Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

Humans were originally a nomadic species. We adapted to grieve quickly and move on because we often didn't have time to do otherwise.

It doesn't make you bad or wrong or evil or anything. It's just another way humans learned to survive early on, when everything was still trying and easily capable of killing us - back before we had become our own worst threat.

Furrin_Gok said:
Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.

kamimatsu said:
It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.

Not to nag on you but have you thought about seeking help?

kamimatsu said:
It's not so much acceptance as it is apathy. My typical reaction to something terrible I can't prevent or minimize is to focus entirely on it and keep looking for a different option even after I know for a fact it doesn't exist. I don't do acceptance or denial. I zigzag between anger, bartering, and depression. Now, it's not that I've moved on, but that I've stopped moving anywhere at all. Nothing that happens is causing any sort of response from me emotionally, and I have to fake it. Not just with losing a family member, or death in general, but pretty much anything. It's happened before, and it was like being incredibly hungry, but my mind was what hurt from hunger instead of my stomach.

That's still acceptance. You've gone past looking at the individual deaths, to just looking at death in general. It happens, why bother getting bent out of shape over it? May as well carry on with your own thing. Your subconscious has come to recognize it, and dropped the sense of empathy that was only harming you before.

The human mind is capable of doing this in order to protect oneself, and thusly, one's "pack" (family, neighbors, friends). The empathy that you start with means that you will go out of your way to ensure the pack survives, but in rougher times, where the pack is getting picked off, that would be counterproductive, leading to even more losses, so it just gets rid of the empathy in order to allow those who remain to carry on.

Perhaps the greatest problem with this is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get that empathy back, even if things start going well again. How much of a desire do you still have to prevent the death or cure illnesses before it gets horrible?

Sorrowless said:
Not to nag on you but have you thought about seeking help?

Yes. I actually go for counseling regularly for Depression and self-hatred. I'm not sure what will happen next time, since it took a while to explain initially that my Depression was because I wanted to start living, not stop.

kamimatsu said:
Yes. I actually go for counseling regularly for Depression and self-hatred. I'm not sure what will happen next time, since it took a while to explain initially that my Depression was because I wanted to start living, not stop.

I'm glad you do. Do you by any chance like it? I did. However I don't have much self-hatred and I can see how that would be not so fun to talk about.

Furrin_Gok said:
Perhaps the greatest problem with this is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get that empathy back, even if things start going well again. How much of a desire do you still have to prevent the death or cure illnesses before it gets horrible?

I have wondered if my subconscious did this self protection, myself. You seem sure about this. Where have you come to learn it?

I'm sad that the laws of physics won't allow us to have green and purple stars. It would've been beautiful if the stars in the sky were available in countless specks of rainbow.

I'm also sad that Andromeda isn't close enough to the Milky Way to be almost always visible to the unaided eye. Close enough to see almost all the time, but far enough to not cause any catastrophic problems.

kamimatsu said:
EDIT: About what I said about my grandfather possibly dying. He just died this morning. Found out just a few minutes ago. I expected to be a lot more devastated than I was. He was one of the few relatives I actually viewed positively, and no matter how hard I try I can't care that my hero just died. I think I broke.

My condolences.

About you have "broken", I don't know. I was never exactly good at understanding feelings, but I felt basically in the same way after the death of all my deceased relatives (one of them last month), so if you are broken, then we both are.

Furrin_Gok said:
Nah, you went to the stage of acceptance. "Yep. That happened. Nothing I can do will change that, so I may as well just carry on."

Wouldn't there be another six stages before this one, or they aren't obligatory? I really am not sure about how this is supposed to work.

Furrin_Gok said:
Perhaps the greatest problem with this is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get that empathy back, even if things start going well again. How much of a desire do you still have to prevent the death or cure illnesses before it gets horrible?

But if someone has no/low level of empathy from birth? I mean, is it really that bad? Sometimes emotions (shared or not) seem to make the mind even more fragile than it usually is.

O16 said:
But if someone has no/low level of empathy from birth? I mean, is it really that bad? Sometimes emotions (shared or not) seem to make the mind even more fragile than it usually is.

It's not fun if you used to have more feelings before. We know we're missing something.

Sorrowless said:

I have wondered if my subconscious did this self protection, myself. You seem sure about this. Where have you come to learn it?

I either Miles Edgeworth'd Apollo Justice'd it. I've got my own brand of logic that steers me to my answers. I can be wrong at times, but more often than not I'm either correct, or tell it so convincingly that people just treat it as correct with the lack of any official answers. "Morality" is kind of hard to argue one way or another, you either believe something's good, or you don't.

O16 said:
Wouldn't there be another six stages before this one, or they aren't obligatory? I really am not sure about how this is supposed to work.

Hard to say, I'm not a psychologist. I think it's good to go through them, but chances are as people do so more and more they start to skip them.

Chameloshi said:
I'm sad that the laws of physics won't allow us to have green and purple stars.

You can have green stars. Just chuck a shitload of copper sulfate at it and it will burn green until the copper sulfate runs out.

BlueDingo said:
You can have green stars. Just chuck a shitload of copper sulfate at it and it will burn green until the copper sulfate runs out.

Might not be good for the star. Some elements are known to speed up the star's aging. Did you know iron is extremely deadly to a star. A common joke among some scientists is that the best thing to kill the sun with is your own kitchen.

Though if you want the star to be green or purple, you could try a planet with a magenta atmosphere, which would give you a star that appears green, like how Sol looks yellow but it's actually white, and we just get tricked into not seeing the blue because of the sky.

Chameloshi said:
I'm sad that the laws of physics won't allow us to have green and purple stars. It would've been beautiful if the stars in the sky were available in countless specks of rainbow.

I'm also sad that Andromeda isn't close enough to the Milky Way to be almost always visible to the unaided eye. Close enough to see almost all the time, but far enough to not cause any catastrophic problems.

The northern lights are green and purple and is also a result of the sun.

Sorrowless said:
The northern lights are green and purple and is also a result of the sun.

Another idea just came to mind. If you had a moon with a green or purple atmosphere, you'd be looking at green or purple sunlight, because moonlight IS sunlight.

Now that I think about it, that means anyone looking at mars with the naked eye is looking at red light from Sol.

kamimatsu said:
Might not be good for the star. Some elements are known to speed up the star's aging. Did you know iron is extremely deadly to a star. A common joke among some scientists is that the best thing to kill the sun with is your own kitchen.

Though if you want the star to be green or purple, you could try a planet with a magenta atmosphere, which would give you a star that appears green, like how Sol looks yellow but it's actually white, and we just get tricked into not seeing the blue because of the sky.

Do not let your star consume an unsafe amount of copper or other oxidizing agents

If you allow me to be a nerd:

BlueDingo said:
You can have green stars. Just chuck a shitload of copper sulfate at it and it will burn green until the copper sulfate runs out.

It is impossible. The titanic temperature within a star do not allows electrons to be "stabilized" in an electrosphere, consequently there is no copper sulfate only cores of Cu, S and O.

kamimatsu said:
Might not be good for the star. Some elements are known to speed up the star's aging. Did you know iron is extremely deadly to a star. A common joke among some scientists is that the best thing to kill the sun with is your own kitchen.

That happens because a star is basically a fight between gravity, which attempts to make it collapse, and atomic fusion, which attempts to make it explode. Every element needs a distinct amount of energy to have its atoms fused, iron and heavier elements require a quantity of energy so high to do so that consume the star's power instead of giving it energy, hence allowing the gravity to win the fight; but the compression caused by the collapsing process generates a huge amount of heat that expands the external layers of the star, leaving its compressed core. Varying according the stars mass, that core may be turned into either a white dwarf star, or a neutron star or a black hole (crescent mass order).

kamimatsu said:
Though if you want the star to be green or purple, you could try a planet with a magenta atmosphere, which would give you a star that appears green, like how Sol looks yellow but it's actually white, and we just get tricked into not seeing the blue because of the sky.

I) It does not work that way. The atmosphere color derives from its composition, the kind of light that actuate over it and and angle of incidence of this light. Earth's atmosphere isn't blue by itself, the combination of factors make it looks like that; if you change any of those factors you will change the sky color as well (that is why the sky changes color during the sunset and sunrise, there is an alteration in the light's angle of incidence).

II) Actually the Sun is orange, it even is classified as an orange dwarf star.

Sorrowless said:
The northern lights are green and purple and is also a result of the sun.

More or less; they truly are, but this has no relation with Sun's light.
Aurora borealis (North) and aurora australis (South) are caused by charged particles exciting the electrons within atoms of oxygen and nitrogen in the atmosphere; these particles come from the Sun and usually are blocked by Earth's magnetic field, except for the poles, where the field is discontinuous.

II) Actually the Sun is orange, it even is classified as an orange dwarf star.

[citation needed]

Aren't all satellite photos of the sun orange?

BlueDingo said:
Aren't all satellite photos of the sun orange?

The sun appears white if you look at photos of it from space. The atmosphere just makes it look orange.

http://askanastronomer.org/img/iss_sun.jpg

O16 said:
It does not work that way. The atmosphere color derives from its composition, the kind of light that actuate over it and and angle of incidence of this light. Earth's atmosphere isn't blue by itself, the combination of factors make it looks like that; if you change any of those factors you will change the sky color as well (that is why the sky changes color during the sunset and sunrise, there is an alteration in the light's angle of incidence).

I learned something new today then.

Many are, but they aren't true color. The sun is approximately (and it's a pretty good approximation) a black-body emitter, and it's emissions peak in the green part of the spectrum. A black body radiating strongly in the green is also radiating strongly in the rest of the visual spectrum, so it ends up looking white (a faintly yellowish white, but if you saw it directly (through a good neutral-density filter, hopefully!) you'd call it white).

Also the claim that the Sun is classified as an orange dwarf is a new one to me. I was taught (and every source that I can find sides with me on this) that the Sun is a G dwarf ("yellow dwarf"), not a K dwarf ("orange dwarf").

Snowy said:
Also the claim that the Sun is classified as an orange dwarf is a new one to me. I was taught (and every source that I can find sides with me on this) that the Sun is a G dwarf ("yellow dwarf"), not a K dwarf ("orange dwarf").

*search*

Actually you are right, thank you for the correction and sorry for the imprecise information.

Fenrick said:
The sun appears white if you look at photos of it from space. The atmosphere just makes it look orange.

http://askanastronomer.org/img/iss_sun.jpg

Snowy said:
Many are, but they aren't true color. The sun is approximately (and it's a pretty good approximation) a black-body emitter, and it's emissions peak in the green part of the spectrum. A black body radiating strongly in the green is also radiating strongly in the rest of the visual spectrum, so it ends up looking white (a faintly yellowish white, but if you saw it directly (through a good neutral-density filter, hopefully!) you'd call it white).

Stars emit all wave-lenghts of visible light, the prevalence of a specific color varies mostly according the star's temperature, but they generally look white to the human eye. Specific filters are used in order to isolate the "signature bright" from a determined star, and the Sun is orange (actually it is more like amber, but I suppose you got the idea).

Curiously, a similar process was applied to the whole visible universe and the resulting (most commom) color was beige.

I'm gonna go with Zod. I think the sun looks yellow from our planet.

Sorrowless said:
I'm gonna go with Zod. I think the sun looks yellow from our planet.

Zod? Do you mean General Zod from D.C. ?

O16 said:
Zod? Do you mean General Zod from D.C. ?

Specific Zod from NYC.

O16 said:
Curiously, a similar process was applied to the whole visible universe and the resulting (most commom) color was beige.

So we're at the point scientists have been able to provide proof that the universe is boring. On one hand, scientists would never think that. On the other hand, a scientist would be one of the only ones who would see what they wanted to be true get disproven and actually own up to it.

I'm sad that BioWare has decided to pull a Bethesda and release Mass Effect Andromeda as a buggy, fucked up mess.

EDIT: It also makes me laugh a bit too, because of how BioWare dissed Bethesda for Fallout 4's "shitty" graphics. If ever there was a reason to believe in Karma...

But oh well, at least there is such a thing as "Irony." ;)

Thinking about Zappa's Backstory/Story in Guilty Gear.

In a nutshell:
The dood is possibly the most kind hearted and innocent bugger in the whole entire game but, Is also possessed by a grudge like spirit and a hand full of others that cause him to flip out at random times. He's completely unaware during the whole thing and when he comes to, he wakes up to injuries, Catastrophe and someone hurt or worst beside him.

This just really breaks my heart since his story mode his basically just going on a quest to find some way to stop the possessions so he could get his life back. With each character he meets; No matter how nice and kindly he talks to them
(Which is a rarity in that game ~ w ~)
He ends up waking up a few moments later to see the person he was just talking to on the ground.
Heck, Even his cannon endings are just terrible!

• It's ether him losing what little control he had over the things haunting him

or

• getting locked up for a crime he doesn't even remember and had no control in committing!

Just makes me sad how tragic of a character this guy is =T

Notkastar said:
Thinking about Zappa's Backstory/Story in Guilty Gear.

In a nutshell:
The dood is possibly the most kind hearted and innocent bugger in the whole entire game but, Is also possessed by a grudge like spirit and a hand full of others that cause him to flip out at random times. He's completely unaware during the whole thing and when he comes to, he wakes up to injuries, Catastrophe and someone hurt or worst beside him.

This just really breaks my heart since his story mode his basically just going on a quest to find some way to stop the possessions so he could get his life back. With each character he meets; No matter how nice and kindly he talks to them
(Which is a rarity in that game ~ w ~)
He ends up waking up a few moments later to see the person he was just talking to on the ground.
Heck, Even his cannon endings are just terrible!

• It's ether him losing what little control he had over the things haunting him

or

• getting locked up for a crime he doesn't even remember and had no control in committing!

Just makes me sad how tragic of a character this guy is =T

:( that is sad. poor guy must feel horrible for most of his life.

Sorry for the wait, Just got done doodling ╹‿╹)
post #1197964

treos said:
:( that is sad. poor guy must feel horrible for most of his life.

He does man, He really does =T
He more or less comes to terms with the fact during the end parts of his story paths but still somehow stays hopeful that all this will be over someday in a good way.

That alone makes me even more sad since in ALL of his ending, It never truly ends. The happiest it's ever gotten for him was about a month of peace. Just for the spirit to come back out of the blue and this time somehow 'Corporeal

The funeral held today. Saw the body. Been fighting back the need to vomit the entire day. Never could stand looking at a dead body.

EDIT: Mom found out I've relapsed into being emotionally numb. Must suck going to your father's funeral the same day you find out his death numbed your son so he physically can't care about you or your father beyond selfish curiosity.

kamimatsu said:
EDIT: Mom found out I've relapsed into being emotionally numb. Must suck going to your father's funeral the same day you find out his death numbed your son so he physically can't care about you or your father beyond selfish curiosity.

I'm waiting for the day my mom asks me about this. She knows I can't be excited about things anymore but I think she'll have a reaction to how far my condition goes.

Would you mind telling more about how it went?

https://twitter.com/talis82/status/856259496175431683

https://twitter.com/MicheleScarponi/status/801038366674391040

Sorrowless said:
I'm waiting for the day my mom asks me about this. She knows I can't be excited about things anymore but I think she'll have a reaction to how far my condition goes.

Would you mind telling more about how it went?

I've never been good at reading what someone else felt, but I could tell she was afraid for me, not of me. She knows about the first time I went numb already, since I told her as soon as I figured it out, and she was the first to know when I recovered. I think she was more worried because, the first time I went numb, I resorted to deliberately triggering my own phobias just to feel something, because primal fear of death didn't go away. I think she wanted to make sure I didn't resort to mental self-harm again. She asked if I still wanted to go to counseling, and seemed a little relieved after I told her I definitely needed to, because the whole point was treating Depression, and emotional numbing is a form of Depression.

So she knows I know something is wrong, and she knows I wouldn't have told her if I didn't trust her completely. One of the reasons I told her is because I knew she would believe me without pitying me, blaming herself, or falsely assuming my sense of morality went away too.

I'm feeling a little sad right now. I wish I had someone I could be intimate with. Not necessarily a relationship but a hybrid in between. One you could cuddle, talk and hang out with. One you could be romantic with but not necessarily include sex.

Does this make sense? Is this an unrealistic thing to wish for? Let me know what you think.

Sorrowless said:
I'm feeling a little sad right now. I wish I had someone I could be intimate with. Not necessarily a relationship but a hybrid in between. One you could cuddle, talk and hang out with. One you could be romantic with but not necessarily include sex.

Does this make sense? Is this an unrealistic thing to wish for? Let me know what you think.

So you wanna date someone?

BlueDingo said:
So you wanna date someone?

Dating implies the purpose of getting into a relationship. The kind we commonly think of when we hear that word. A relationship have expectations like living together, spending money on each other, having sex. Stuff you are "supposed to do". A friendship is a lot more free from public expectations which is one of the reasons why I value it higher. A friendship isn't artificially held together.

You do know that a friendship is a type of relationship, right? Not all relationships are intimate or romantic ones. Besides, you don't have to be in or get into an intimate relationship to date. And if the word "date" is off-putting, just call it an outing or a meeting or something.

BlueDingo said:
You do know that a friendship is a type of relationship, right? Not all relationships are intimate or romantic ones. Besides, you don't have to be in or get into an intimate relationship to date. And if the word "date" is off-putting, just call it an outing or a meeting or something.

True, but you're picking too much on the word. There's a reason why we don't use the word relationship with friendships. And yes, I'm picky on the word date. It carries baggage in my opinion.

Sorrowless said:
I'm feeling a little sad right now. I wish I had someone I could be intimate with. Not necessarily a relationship but a hybrid in between. One you could cuddle, talk and hang out with. One you could be romantic with but not necessarily include sex.

Does this make sense? Is this an unrealistic thing to wish for? Let me know what you think.

I'm sort of in that boat too. A lot of people can't understand the difference between romance and sexuality, and it leads to misunderstandings.

Sorrowless said:
True, but you're picking too much on the word. There's a reason why we don't use the word relationship with friendships. And yes, I'm picky on the word date. It carries baggage in my opinion.

Actually, I'd say you are the one picking on the word. "Platonic relationships" is a real phrase that commonly gets said, to the point of recognizing it even without the word platonic.

Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, I'd say you are the one picking on the word. "Platonic relationships" is a real phrase that commonly gets said, to the point of recognizing it even without the word platonic.

I don't know. To me, if someone asks another if they're in a relationship they're basically asking if they have a boy/girlfriend.

I'm not sure platonic relationship is the right word. Is there a name for a relationship which includes being physical with each other? Sex could be a thing but let's say it isn't since it easily takes a relationship to a different level.

I mean honestly if you're not friends with your significant other ANYWAY I think any sort of relationship you might have with them is doomed.

That's a mistake a lot of people make, trying to get romantically involved with someone because they're 'hot' or 'interesting' and not really getting to know and like them as a person.

Sorrowless said:
I'm not sure platonic relationship is the right word. Is there a name for a relationship which includes being physical with each other? Sex could be a thing but let's say it isn't since it easily takes a relationship to a different level.

Well, not everyone has sex with someone they're in a relationship with. Until recently, most places called that a spouse.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/how-white-are-you-really

Attempting to do surveys^* like this and responding to the majority of the questions with either:

• I've never watched/listened to that show/song before.
• I've never seen/heard of this person/thing before.
• Does it count if I was forced to do it? (then answering "no" via technicality.)
• What does this have to do with the topic of this survey?

Needless to say, I scored very low on this survey.

My result: 6/100. This survey is terrible and too american-centric.

^* I refuse to call this a quiz. "Quiz" implies there are right and wrong answers.

BlueDingo said:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/how-white-are-you-really

Attempting to do surveys^* like this and responding to the majority of the questions with either:

• I've never watched/listened to that show/song before.
• I've never seen/heard of this person/thing before.
• Does it count if I was forced to do it? (then answering "no" via technicality.)
• What does this have to do with the topic of this survey?

Needless to say, I scored very low on this survey.

Survey: Have you ever eaten soup from a bread bowl?
Me: What's a bread bowl? *googles* Oh, okay... No.[/sub]

Survey: Wanted to live in Portland?
Me: I don't even know what continent that's on.[/sub]

Survey: Used the hashtag #WhitePeopleProblems becaus-
Me: I don't use Twitter... And people still think I'm full of shit when I tell them that.[/sub]

Survey: Gone square dancing?
Me: No. The "gone" part implies choice. I was forced to do it.

Survey: Rode a unicycle?
Me: Haven't had the opportunity yet. I'm willing to try, though.

Survey: Owned a pair of New Balance shoes?
Me: FINALLY, something I can answer yes to! Ahem... Yes.

My result: 6/100. This survey is terrible and too american-centric.

^* I refuse to call this a quiz. "Quiz" implies there are right and wrong answers.

I'm American and White enough that people used to think I was just an albino who dyed my hair, and the only one of the examples there I can answer yes to is the bread bowl.

BlueDingo said:
an online quiz...

is a bread bowl where you bake some bread in the shape of a bowl to eat out of? that sounds pretty soggy and messy if your using one for soup.

*google* huh, i guess you can eat soup from such a bowl. cool

twitter...or did you mean shitter? not much difference from what i've seen mentioned on youtube.

pretty sure i heard sargon mention buzzzfeed's "quizzes" in either this or last weeks TWiS. jokingly that is.

treos said:
is a bread bowl where you bake some bread in the shape of a bowl to eat out of? that sounds pretty soggy and messy if your using one for soup.

*google* huh, i guess you can eat soup from such a bowl. cool

You bake the bread regularly, then hollow it out. You take the pieces removed from hollowing it and you use that to dunk in the soup. It's a single-use thing, but it'd be a waste of bread if it weren't. If you take a bit too long, worst case scenario, it's flavored garlic bread.

I've had one at Panera. Some advice: Don't get them at Panera. It's expensive as fuck. Just make a regular sphere-ish loaf of bread, hollow it, and put soup in it. You'll save yourself a lot of time and money. In fact, do that instead of any option that is currently Panera. Some stuff they charge 8 dollars for could be found on a kid's menu somewhere else for 2 dollars and be twice as big.

The fact that the Nintendo Switch is $470 here in Australia. :(