Implicating knotting → deep_penetration
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Reason:

Since the knot is located at the penis/dildo base, when knotting happens the penis/dildo is totally (or almost totally) inserted in the orifice.

Related implications:

• anal_knotting → anal_penetration.

vaginal_knotting → vaginal_penetration.
oral_knotting → oral_penetration.

Edit:

After some discussion has been decided that the following suggestion would be more appropriate:

• Implicating: knotting → penetration.

EDIT: The tag implication knotting -> deep_penetration (forum #220078) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

I think deep_penetration sounds like a bad tag, and quite frankly it seems to me there's an easy case to be made for invalidating it.

First off, let's get the implication out of the way: If a real-to-life-sized dog has sex with a real-to-life-sized blue whale, that dog's knot might be all the way in that whale but that is definitely not "deep penetration" - indeed, a blue whale's penis is something like eight feet long or longer, so comparatively six inches is practically negligible.

However even beyond that, what exactly does "deep penetration" mean? We already have a tag for cervical_penetration, and deep_throat... What exactly qualifies as "deep", though? Your implication suggestion seems to suggest that it doesn't even need to be anywhere near that deep to qualify...

To me that tag is vague, and in those cases where it is clear we have better tags already.

The related implications seem to be reasonable though.

knotting → deep_penetration does not always apply. some characters have knot closer to the tip (often with characters that have multi_knot).

Sorry I have to disagree...

The deep_penetration tag isn't about how far the penis is inserted, it's about how far a penis reaches up the vagina. An example would be a male furry (with a knot) is fucking a huge dragon...he could knot her, but could you really call that deep_penetration? Unless she has an extremely shallow pussy (perhaps evidenced through an x-ray) I wouldn't say so. He is obviously not reaching very far up her vagina even though he is knotted. Like I said it's not dependent on the penis.

Is that an edge case? Yes...however afaik aliases need to be applicable 100% of the time, so the edge cases need to be considered.

Clawdragons said:
To me that tag is vague, and in those cases where it is clear we have better tags already.

Wow yall are fast...while I was writing my case someone basically made the same exact case already LOL.

Personally I think the tag is a bit vague, but you can easily make an educated guess as to if character is being deeply penetrated. For instance if two characters are roughly the same size, and the penis shaft is fully inserted...that's deep penetration.

This is even more applicable if the male character is much bigger and is fully penetrating the female. Just using our common knowledge of penis length, and especially the penis length in drawn pornography, it's extremely likely the character doesn't have a chode penis and is penetrating deeply.

In fact I'd say that cervical_penetration should imply deep_penetration...stomach_bulge should also imply deep_penetration. Not really sure about deepthroat though...what is your guy's definition of "penetration" around here?

That tag needs cleaning. It's not clear for many of these pics (post #1089206, post #952191, post #716161) that the penetration shown is deep.

leomole said:
That tag needs cleaning. It's not clear for many of these pics (post #1089206, post #952191, post #716161) that the penetration shown is deep.

Yep...

post #1089206 - he's not even fully inserted here, no way to realistically tell or guess
post #952191 - there is no visual indication as to how for the tentacles have penetrated
post #716161 - That is deep_penetration...there is even an x-ray. He is blowing his load in her and the cum is being forced back because he's reached the end of her vaginal canal (in the x-ray view)

Clawdragons said:
First off, let's get the implication out of the way: If a real-to-life-sized dog has sex with a real-to-life-sized blue whale, that dog's knot might be all the way in that whale but that is definitely not "deep penetration" - indeed, a blue whale's penis is something like eight feet long or longer, so comparatively six inches is practically negligible.

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The related implications seem to be reasonable though.

Mutisija said:
knotting → deep_penetration does not always apply. some characters have knot closer to the tip (often with characters that have multi_knot).

Dyrone said:
Sorry I have to disagree...

The deep_penetration tag isn't about how far the penis is inserted, it's about how far a penis reaches up the vagina. An example would be a male furry (with a knot) is fucking a huge dragon...he could knot her, but could you really call that deep_penetration? Unless she has an extremely shallow pussy (perhaps evidenced through an x-ray) I wouldn't say so. He is obviously not reaching very far up her vagina even though he is knotted. Like I said it's not dependent on the penis.

Is that an edge case? Yes...however afaik aliases need to be applicable 100% of the time, so the edge cases need to be considered.

Good arguments. So, what do you think about the implication "knotting → penetration" instead?

Dyrone said:
post #952191 - there is no visual indication as to how for the tentacles have penetrated

actually there is. look at the character on right, you can see tentacles bulging in his belly and glowing through his skin. it seems that the tentacles are all the way in his small intestines which is pretty damn deep.

O16 said:

Good arguments. So, what do you think about the implication "knotting → penetration" instead?

the character could be knotting a fleshlight or something similar and i do not think it qualifies for penetration tag.

Mutisija said:
actually there is. look at the character on right, you can see tentacles bulging in his belly and glowing through his skin. it seems that the tentacles are all the way in his small intestines which is pretty damn deep.

Oop...my bad...I missed that. It kind of illustrates how hard it would be to "clean" the tag...you basically have to look over every image tagged with it very carefully.

Wouldn't it be possible to confuse it with tying a knot, like a noose or something? I mean, until reading this, I thought the term described muscle tension.

Mutisija said:
the character could be knotting a fleshlight or something similar and i do not think it qualifies for penetration tag.

In cases like that, both "knotting" and "penetration" aren't applicable (according a discussion in other forum thread ).
So... Should we imply " knotting" → "penetration"?

user_22273 said:
the character could be knotting a fleshlight or something similar and i do not think it qualifies for penetration tag.

Both the knotting and penetration tag are not applicable to inanimate objects. So knotting -> penetration would be valid. If the character was fucking a fleshlight, neither of those tags would be added.

kyiiel said:
Both the knotting and penetration tag are not applicable to inanimate objects. So knotting -> penetration would be valid. If the character was fucking a fleshlight, neither of those tags would be added.

Related topics: topic #17331, topic #24353, topic #27828

I believe knotting and penetration should also apply to when a character is penetrating an inanimate object.
post #1914919 post #2602184 post #1315038 post #2089298

The tag implication knotting -> deep_penetration (forum #220078) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.