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Topic: moratorium on "hate_art", "edgy", "arty_crop", "artist_name" et al.

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

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hey, here are some tags that might be bad to use:

hate_art, arty_crop, and edgy look like subjective tagging

artistic_nudity seems redundant per casual_nudity

artist_name and artist_signature can be merged into signature or watermark unless benefit is earned from the designation of specifically an artist putting their name into the piece

amateur_artist and artistic looks opinionated

giftart, fanfic_art, and vga_fanart looks like they violate tag-what-you-see

what_has_art_done looks like what_has_science_done w/ 7 posts

can art_pack be merged to cover_art? most of this tag belongs in sets and the rest look like advertisements

what's the deal with generic_cartoon_animorph?

trying to clean up tag_group:art right now and looking for new additions while cleaning out the bad. could add in more tags but they're not related to the group. will add thread to group if it's useful.

opinions requested.

EDIT: The bulk update request #5046 (forum #) has been rejected by @Cloudpie.

Updated by auto moderator

Of those arty_crop seems to be the least subjective- it seems to be cropping of an image that isn't either a standard portrait crop or typical fetish-specific crop (like a close-up of only genitals or only a foot). It could be renamed and redefined to sound less derisive and get rid of the implication of 'intending to appear more artistic than it is' though, maybe 'unusual' crop/focus/portrait?

Updated by anonymous

First off, great stuff here...'preciate ya.

fewrahuxo said:
artistic_nudity seems redundant per casual_nudity

I feel like casual_nudity needs other characters to be present in an image in order to work...how do we know that the nudity is casual unless other characters are present who are treating it casually? I don't think there's a crossover...artistic_nudity should just be aliased to invalid_tag because it gets into the area of "what is art?" and that's too subjective.

fewrahuxo said:
artist_name and artist_signature can be merged into signature or watermark

To me the difference between artist_name and signature is that a signature doesn't really have to be legible whereas artist_name does. However I admit that's fairly trivial and most people probably don't care about it. I would be for merging artist_name and artist_signature into simply signature.

fewrahuxo said:
can art_pack be merged to cover_art? most of this tag belongs in sets and the rest look like advertisements

Sounds good...except I noticed that sometimes people are misusing the art_pack tag to mean "this image is part of an art pack"...those images would have to be cleaned out before putting this alias into effect as they don't qualify as cover_art.

All the rest I haven't mentioned I either agree with you or I don't have an opinion on...

Updated by anonymous

I'm not a fan of merging the nudity tags. I'd rather distinguish them properly. Probably merge tasteful_nudity over to artistic_nudity and use it for poses, and have casual_nudity for just going about your business in the buff.

Updated by anonymous

Snowy said:
I'm not a fan of merging the nudity tags. I'd rather distinguish them properly. Probably merge tasteful_nudity over to artistic_nudity and use it for poses, and have casual_nudity for just going about your business in the buff.

I prefer a clearer distinction too, but there are many images where it's hard to tell what it should be. Nude pinups get mixed up in this as well. An umbrella tag for nonsexual nudity (or sexual nudity, which might be easier to define and manage) couldn't hurt, with casual and tasteful being more specific terms.

Updated by anonymous

I like the idea of an umbrella tag, just not merging everything into one umbrella tag.

Updated by anonymous

BlueDingo said:
I think artistic_nudity is another term for tasteful_nudity. There have been talks before about changing both casual_nudity and tasteful_nudity to something like nonsexual_nudity.

In addition, artistic_nude is already aliased to tasteful_nudity, so that may affect which tag artistic_nudity could be aliased to.

I'm not sure if other forum posts have been made regarding changing the tasteful_nudity and casual_nudity tags, but I remember some discussions like what you're describing on forum #209348

Updated by anonymous

Huh, Did not even know "hate_art" was a thing till now.
Hmm =T Looks like there are still radically polarizing views on mlp.
It's just a show about talking cartoon ponies.
Why is this

blonde_hair blood blue_body blue_fur bodily_fluids brain brown_hair clothing cornelius_yngv crossover crying cutie_mark death death_piss derp_eyes derpy_hooves_(mlp) dragon earth_pony english_text equid equine eyes_closed family_guy fan_character fangs feathered_wings feathers female feral fire forced friendship_is_magic fur genital_fluids genitals gore green_eyes grey_body grey_fur group gun hair hasbro hat headgear headwear horn horse human insane killing male mammal multicolored_hair multicolored_tail mutilation my_little_pony mythological_creature mythological_equine mythological_scalie mythology open_mouth organs peeing pegasus peter_griffin pink_hair pony pupils purple_body purple_eyes purple_fur purple_hair pussy rainbow_dash_(mlp) rainbow_hair rainbow_tail ranged_weapon rape red_body red_fur scalie sex slit_pupils tail tears teeth text two_tone_hair unicorn urine weapon wings yellow_body yellow_eyes yellow_feathers yellow_fur

a thing.

Freedom of expression and I am no way saying you can't draw this. I just saying I don't get why peeps would take the show 'That' seriously to make something so...gory X_x;)
But I should hush up, Having an opinion on the net seems dangerous T w T)

fewrahuxo said:
hey, here are some tags that might be bad to use:

hate_art, arty_crop, and edgy look like subjective tagging

artistic_nudity seems redundant per casual_nudity

artist_name and artist_signature can be merged into signature or watermark unless benefit is earned from the designation of specifically an artist putting their name into the piece

amateur_artist and artistic looks opinionated

giftart, fanfic_art, and vga_fanart looks like they violate tag-what-you-see

what_has_art_done looks like what_has_science_done w/ 7 posts

can art_pack be merged to cover_art? most of this tag belongs in sets and the rest look like advertisements

what's the deal with generic_cartoon_animorph?

trying to clean up tag_group:art right now and looking for new additions while cleaning out the bad. could add in more tags but they're not related to the group. will add thread to group if it's useful.

opinions requested.

Dood, I've made the same points before a few times before and the answers I've gotten back is that it manly falls under technicality. Heck about 1 outta 3 tags you'll find on the site will fall under this lolz ◠‿◠)

Like for "artistic_nudity" and "casual_nudity"

"artistic_nudity"

2015 anthro avoid_posting belly big_breasts blonde_hair breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_spots casual_nudity claws dual duo eyebrows eyelashes feet female fur genitals green_eyes hair half-closed_eyes holding_object humanoid_hands kangaroo lilhoneypup long_ears long_hair long_tail macropod mammal markings marsupial melissa_bernstein multicolored_body multicolored_fur narrowed_eyes navel nipples nude nude_modelling open_mouth open_smile pillow pink_background pink_nipples pink_nose pose pouch_(anatomy) purple_eyes pussy riley_roo simple_background sitting slim smile social_nudity spots spotted_body spotted_fur tail tan_body tan_fur tan_spots thick_tail thick_thighs white_belly white_body white_fur white_hair wide_hips

falls under something like this
Where the art peep makes them being naked the vocal point of the whole piece.

Were "casual_nudity"

2013 5_fingers anthro ball balls barefoot beach belly black_nose blue_bracelet blue_hair bracelet breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_hair butt casual_nudity clothing day facial_markings feet female fingers flaccid fluffy fluffy_tail fur genitals grass grey_body grey_fur group group_nudity hair hat hat_only head_markings headgear headgear_only headwear headwear_only holding_ball holding_object jewelry kalahari looking_aside looking_at_another looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal markings mask_(marking) mostly_nude mountain multicolored_body multicolored_fur net nipples nude nude_beach outdoor_nudity outside painting_(artwork) penis plant ponytail procyonid public public_nudity raccoon red_clothing red_hat red_headwear running sand seaside shadow side_boob sky smile social_nudity sport standing striped_markings striped_tail stripes tail tail_markings traditional_media_(artwork) traditional_painting_(artwork) traditional_watercolor_(artwork) two_tone_body two_tone_fur volleyball volleyball_(ball) volleyball_net watercolor_(artwork) white_belly white_inner_ear wide_hips

falls under the art peep makes them being naked less of a vocal point as the naked peep is usually see doing other thing that would be normal to do.

It's pretty much the same thing but not really ya know? ╹‿╹)

Updated by anonymous

One difference I've noticed is casual nudity hardly ever contains posing while tasteful/artistic usually does so if the nude character is posing, it's not exactly casual... unless it's flexing or a superhero pose or something.

Notkastar said:
Were "casual_nudity"

2013 5_fingers anthro ball balls barefoot beach belly black_nose blue_bracelet blue_hair bracelet breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_hair butt casual_nudity clothing day facial_markings feet female fingers flaccid fluffy fluffy_tail fur genitals grass grey_body grey_fur group group_nudity hair hat hat_only head_markings headgear headgear_only headwear headwear_only holding_ball holding_object jewelry kalahari looking_aside looking_at_another looking_at_viewer looking_back male mammal markings mask_(marking) mostly_nude mountain multicolored_body multicolored_fur net nipples nude nude_beach outdoor_nudity outside painting_(artwork) penis plant ponytail procyonid public public_nudity raccoon red_clothing red_hat red_headwear running sand seaside shadow side_boob sky smile social_nudity sport standing striped_markings striped_tail stripes tail tail_markings traditional_media_(artwork) traditional_painting_(artwork) traditional_watercolor_(artwork) two_tone_body two_tone_fur volleyball volleyball_(ball) volleyball_net watercolor_(artwork) white_belly white_inner_ear wide_hips

falls under the art peep makes them being naked less of a vocal point as the naked peep is usually see doing other thing that would be normal to do.

Actually, the nudity can be the focal point of a casual nudity image.

amy_rose anthro barefoot big_eyes big_head blush breasts canid canine canon_x_oc casual_nudity clothing dessert eating edtropolis eulipotyphlan exhibitionism fan_character featureless_breasts featureless_chest feet female food footwear footwear_only fox fur group hedgehog holding_food holding_object ice_cream jumping looking_at_another male mammal miles_prower mostly_nude public public_exposure sandals sega shoes shoes_only sitting sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) spread_toes surprise thin_calves thin_legs thin_thighs toes toony walking yellow_body yellow_fur

Updated by anonymous

fewrahuxo said:
i would like more opinions on the artistic_nudity, casual_nudity, and tasteful_nudity theoretical merge

Personally, I think casual_nudity should be implicated to tasteful_nudity, but not aliased. tasteful_nudity should be implicated, but not aliased to, artistic_nudity.

This is because tasteful_nudity isn't always just someone who happens to be nude, and artistic_nudity can be sexual in nature even if it isn't necessarily pornographic, but the flipped version of the implication is basically saying that tasteful_nudity is just artistic_nudity that isn't sexual.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff
2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari painting_(artwork) pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

Keep casual_nudity for posts where someone is acting casual while nude, and invalidate tasteful_nudity. Because the latter way too subjective to keep. Users have vastly different views on what counts as pornographic.

Here's some examples of posts that have been tagged as tasteful_nudity:

2012 5:4 anthro anthrofied atryl beach beach_ball_(character) blue_body blue_eyes blue_fur blue_hair blue_penis bracelet breasts brown_hair casual_nudity cutie_mark digital_media_(artwork) ear_piercing earth_pony equid equine erection eyes_closed fan_character feathered_wings feathers fellatio female feral freckles friendship_is_magic fur furniture genitals green_eyes group hair hasbro horn horse humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis jewelry kneeling licking male male/female mammal multicolored_hair my_little_pony mythological_creature mythological_equine mythology necklace nipple_piercing nipples nude nude_beach oral palm_tree pegasus penile penis penis_lick piercing pink_hair plant pony public public_nudity public_sex pussy rainbow_dash_(mlp) rainbow_hair seaside sex sex_on_the_beach standing table tail tongue tongue_out tree unicorn wings
animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro balls beach black_balls black_border black_penis border casual_nudity detailed_background digital_media_(artwork) domestic_cat equid equine equine_genitalia equine_penis erection felid feline felis genitals group half-erect hi_res hooves horse humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis male male/male mammal medial_ring nude nude_beach on_towel outside pantherine penis quillu rainbow sand seaside sky tail towel white_balls
1:1 age_difference anthro areola avian ball_grab balls bath beak bird black_and_white black_eyes bodily_fluids breasts cradle_position cradling digital_media_(artwork) domestic_cat don_bluth dripping duo edmond_(rock-a-doodle) eyebrows eyelashes felid feline felis female foreskin freckles fur galliform genital_fluids genitals goldie_pheasant hair handjob larger_female lonbluewolf looking_down male male/female mammal monochrome nipples nude older_female open_mouth pawpads paws penile penis phasianid precum rock-a-doodle sex shota simple_background size_difference sketch smaller_male teeth tongue virgin water whiskers white_background young young_anthro younger_male

anthro biped breasts erection feathered_wings feathers felid genitals gynomorph hair hair_over_eye intersex kneeling knot looking_at_viewer mammal masturbation mythological_creature mythological_sphinx mythology nude one_eye_obstructed pandora_(artist) penile penile_masturbation penis pose simple_background smile solo tapering_penis white_background wings
1:1 2016 age_difference anthro anthro_on_anthro areola bad_parenting balls bandai_namco beach big_breasts black_sclera blush bodily_fluids breast_size_difference breasts butt canid canine casual_incest casual_nudity child circumcised clitoris clothing daughter_(lore) digimon digimon_(species) digital_media_(artwork) discarded_clothing embarrassed erect_nipples exhibitionism felid female female/female flaccid fluffy fluffy_tail fur gatomon genitals group hi_res huge_breasts humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis incest_(lore) intraspecies loli looking_back male mammal mature_female mother_(lore) mother_and_child_(lore) mother_and_daughter_(lore) navel nipples nude nude_beach older_female on_towel open_mouth outside parent_(lore) parent_and_child_(lore) parent_and_daughter_(lore) paws penis presenting presenting_partner presenting_pussy public pussy renamon scalie seaside slashysmiley small_breasts spread_legs spreading sweat swimwear tail towel under_boob young young_anthro
anthro anus black_and_white blush bodily_fluids breasts butt conditional_dnp cum digitigrade eyes_closed featureless_breasts feet felid female flora_(twokinds) genital_fluids genitals hindpaw keidran legs_up mammal monochrome nude open_mouth pantherine pawpads paws presenting presenting_pussy pussy simple_background sketch smile solo tail tiger tom_fischbach twokinds vaginal_fluids white_background

And that's discounting the posts that have been cleaned out.
Seems to me that half of the users want it tagged for -rating:explicit female pinup, while the other half is tagging it by their personal standards of 'tasteful'.

Updated by anonymous

BlueDingo said:
Invalidation might be going a bit far. Alias to nude instead?

i support the alias; tasteful_nudity already implies nude so an alias makes sense

currently i'm going through all posts with tasteful_nudity, removing the tasteful_nudity tag from them, and seeing which ones can be put back into casual_nudity.

edit: per below reply, i no longer support the alias.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

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2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari painting_(artwork) pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

The implication was a mistake. Tasteful_nudity tends to get tagged for posts where the characters aren't fully nude, and posts like these have the nude tag because of that:

2016 absurd_res aged_up alpha_channel anibaruthecat anthro anthrofied apple_bloom_(mlp) areola breasts clothed clothing digital_media_(artwork) earth_pony equid equine female friendship_is_magic genitals hair hasbro hat headgear headwear hi_res horse legwear long_hair mammal mostly_nude my_little_pony navel nipples pinup pony pose pussy simple_background solo transparent_background
16:9 3d_(artwork) alon alonwoof anthro bare_sands breasts canid canine canis casual_exposure christmas claws clothing digital_media_(artwork) female genitals green_eyes hat headgear headwear hi_res holidays legwear lobani looking_at_viewer mammal mostly_nude nipples outside pussy slightly_chubby solo stockings toe_claws widescreen wolf
anthro blush bottomless canid canine casual_nudity clothed clothing convenient_censorship disney duo female fox fur grey_body grey_fur humor judy_hopps lagomorph leporid male mammal nick_wilde rabbit red_body red_fox red_fur simple_background smile tail tail_censorship true_fox white_background wu_liang_tuanzi zootopia

2014 animal_genitalia anthro balls black_nose bottomless canid canine canis clothed clothing clothing_lift conditional_dnp digital_media_(artwork) fangs fluff-kevlar fully_sheathed fur genitals green_eyes male mammal sheath sheath_tuft shirt shirt_lift simple_background solo tank_top teeth topwear vixion_(vixionwolf) white_balls white_body white_fur white_sheath wolf
2016 android anthro ara_(fluff-kevlar) biped black_body black_fur black_hair blue_eyes blue_nipples breasts clothed clothing conditional_dnp crotch_tuft digital_media_(artwork) dipstick_tail domestic_cat felid feline felis female fluff-kevlar fur hair leaning long_hair looking_at_viewer machine mammal markings medium_breasts multicolored_body multicolored_fur multicolored_tail nipples panties red_body red_fur robot skimpy solo standing tail tail_markings text topless tuft underwear white_body white_fur
2016 anthro arms_above_head barefoot biped breasts canid canine canis cheek_tuft chest_tuft choker claws clothed clothing conditional_dnp countershading cute_fangs digital_media_(artwork) digitigrade domestic_dog facial_tuft fangs feet female fluff-kevlar fluffy fluffy_tail fur green_eyes hair heart_symbol jewelry kneeling looking_at_viewer mammal markings navel necklace nipples open_mouth panties pawpads paws pose rika_(rika) short_hair side_view simple_background smile solo stretching tail tan_body tan_fur teeth thick_thighs thong toe_claws topless tuft underwear

anthro areola breasts clothed clothing distracting_watermark ear_piercing felid feline female half-closed_eyes hi_res lips looking_at_viewer lynx mammal narrowed_eyes nipples nude pandora_(artist) piercing smile solo teeth thick_lips topless unzipped watermark zipper
anthro biped breasts casual_nudity clothing felid female half-closed_eyes hi_res looking_at_viewer lying mammal narrowed_eyes nude on_front pandora_(artist) panties simple_background smile solo underwear white_background
anthro clothed clothing ear_piercing felid female half-closed_eyes hi_res mammal monochrome narrowed_eyes nude pandora_(artist) piercing simple_background solo white_background

If it's aliased, those'll be far harder to find and fix.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
The implication was a mistake. Tasteful_nudity tends to get tagged for posts where the characters aren't fully nude, and posts like these have the nude tag because of that:

2016 absurd_res aged_up alpha_channel anibaruthecat anthro anthrofied apple_bloom_(mlp) areola breasts clothed clothing digital_media_(artwork) earth_pony equid equine female friendship_is_magic genitals hair hasbro hat headgear headwear hi_res horse legwear long_hair mammal mostly_nude my_little_pony navel nipples pinup pony pose pussy simple_background solo transparent_background
16:9 3d_(artwork) alon alonwoof anthro bare_sands breasts canid canine canis casual_exposure christmas claws clothing digital_media_(artwork) female genitals green_eyes hat headgear headwear hi_res holidays legwear lobani looking_at_viewer mammal mostly_nude nipples outside pussy slightly_chubby solo stockings toe_claws widescreen wolf

If it's aliased, those'll be even harder to spot and fix.

I cleared up a whole bunch of those some time ago. There used to be heaps of topless, bottomless and even upskirt shots like this one with the tag:

4:5 ambiguous_gender anthro butt canid canine clothed clothing looking_back mammal rorr solo standing teeth

Search tasteful_nudity clothed for more examples.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

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BlueDingo said:
I cleared up a whole bunch of those some time ago.

Yep, and so have others. Any implication that requires that much cleanup is a bad one.

Updated by anonymous

Also what about artistic_nudity? Should it be kept -- and if so should the alias for artistic_nude be switched to artistic_nudity --, and how could the wiki article be drafted to avoid the subjective tagging that's gone on with tasteful_nudity?

It sounds like tasteful_nudity as a tag is largely unrecoverable at this point, so it may be a good idea to update the wiki. If the tag's too subjective to use and if aliasing it to another tag will just cause more problems then maybe it should be invalidated.

Updated by anonymous

I think artistic_nudity can be salvaged. The narrow and entirely objective version would be nude models where the artist(s) (or at least the art) is depicted:

2016 anthro armadillo breasts canid canine canis clothed clothing digital_media_(artwork) domestic_cat domestic_dog drawing facial_piercing felid feline felis female fox fur group hair iwbitu male mammal mustelid navel nipples nose_piercing nose_ring nude nude_modelling otter pencil_(object) piercing pose ring_piercing rosemary_lutece school septum_piercing septum_ring shaded slightly_chubby smile tasteful_nudity writing_utensil xenarthran
2015 anthro avoid_posting belly big_breasts blonde_hair breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_spots casual_nudity claws dual duo eyebrows eyelashes feet female fur genitals green_eyes hair half-closed_eyes holding_object humanoid_hands kangaroo lilhoneypup long_ears long_hair long_tail macropod mammal markings marsupial melissa_bernstein multicolored_body multicolored_fur narrowed_eyes navel nipples nude nude_modelling open_mouth open_smile pillow pink_background pink_nipples pink_nose pose pouch_(anatomy) purple_eyes pussy riley_roo simple_background sitting slim smile social_nudity spots spotted_body spotted_fur tail tan_body tan_fur tan_spots thick_tail thick_thighs white_belly white_body white_fur white_hair wide_hips
and even
2015 2:1 5_toes absurd_res anthro anthrofied arbok barefoot bean_bag big_breasts biped breasts candle carpet conditional_dnp creating_art darkened_nipples dialogue digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls english_text fan_character feet female flexing furniture generation_1_pokemon gift hand_behind_head hi_res humor meme mixed_media muscular muscular_anthro muscular_female nintendo nipples non-mammal_breasts nude nude_modelling oblivious odalisque on_ground pokemon pokemon_(species) pokemorph portrait pose prosthetic prosthetic_arm prosthetic_limb purple_nipples reptile rug scalie sebrina_arbok simple_background sketch sketchbook smile snake snake_hood solo table talking_to_viewer text the_urge_within toes wide_hips zp92
would be examples.

The broader and more subjective version would include characters that appear to be modeling for nude art. That would include most of draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls, for example. Since suggestive poses and signs of arousal are generally frowned upon, such images should probably not get the tag unless there is a direct indication (such as dialogue) in the image (e.g. post #828080). If we go with nonsexual_nudity as an umbrella tag then images such as post #828080 would need to be excluded.

Updated by anonymous

Snowy said:
I think artistic_nudity can be salvaged. The narrow and entirely objective version would be nude models where the artist(s) (or at least the art) is depicted:

2016 anthro armadillo breasts canid canine canis clothed clothing digital_media_(artwork) domestic_cat domestic_dog drawing facial_piercing felid feline felis female fox fur group hair iwbitu male mammal mustelid navel nipples nose_piercing nose_ring nude nude_modelling otter pencil_(object) piercing pose ring_piercing rosemary_lutece school septum_piercing septum_ring shaded slightly_chubby smile tasteful_nudity writing_utensil xenarthran
2015 anthro avoid_posting belly big_breasts blonde_hair breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_spots casual_nudity claws dual duo eyebrows eyelashes feet female fur genitals green_eyes hair half-closed_eyes holding_object humanoid_hands kangaroo lilhoneypup long_ears long_hair long_tail macropod mammal markings marsupial melissa_bernstein multicolored_body multicolored_fur narrowed_eyes navel nipples nude nude_modelling open_mouth open_smile pillow pink_background pink_nipples pink_nose pose pouch_(anatomy) purple_eyes pussy riley_roo simple_background sitting slim smile social_nudity spots spotted_body spotted_fur tail tan_body tan_fur tan_spots thick_tail thick_thighs white_belly white_body white_fur white_hair wide_hips
and even
2015 2:1 5_toes absurd_res anthro anthrofied arbok barefoot bean_bag big_breasts biped breasts candle carpet conditional_dnp creating_art darkened_nipples dialogue digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls english_text fan_character feet female flexing furniture generation_1_pokemon gift hand_behind_head hi_res humor meme mixed_media muscular muscular_anthro muscular_female nintendo nipples non-mammal_breasts nude nude_modelling oblivious odalisque on_ground pokemon pokemon_(species) pokemorph portrait pose prosthetic prosthetic_arm prosthetic_limb purple_nipples reptile rug scalie sebrina_arbok simple_background sketch sketchbook smile snake snake_hood solo table talking_to_viewer text the_urge_within toes wide_hips zp92
would be examples.

The broader and more subjective version would include characters that appear to be modeling for nude art. That would include most of draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls, for example. Since suggestive poses and signs of arousal are generally frowned upon, such images should probably not get the tag unless there is a direct indication (such as dialogue) in the image (e.g. post #828080). If we go with nonsexual_nudity as an umbrella tag then images such as post #828080 would need to be excluded.

i agree with the draw_me* tag being limited to the meme reference.

artistic_nudity appears okay if it's useful for searching, but then why not search "nude drawing" or "nude artist"?

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fewrahuxo said:
i agree with the draw_me* tag being limited to the meme reference.

artistic_nudity appears okay if it's useful for searching, but then why not search "nude drawing" or "nude artist"?

Since not all art is drawn, searching for "nude drawing" would exclude some posts:

2017 :3 annoyed anthro anthrofied artist beret blonde_hair blue_eyes blush bottomless breasts brown_hair brush butt canid canine canvas casual_nudity chest_tuft clothed clothing collar collar_of_keidranification collar_tag command conditional_dnp countershading creating_art crossgender dialogue digital_media_(artwork) digitigrade dipstick_ears dipstick_tail duo ear_markings english_text eric_vaughan eyewear felid female flora_(twokinds) fluffy fluffy_tail fox frown fur gender_transformation glasses hair hat headgear headwear inside jewelry keidran looking_back mammal markings motion_lines multicolored_body multicolored_ears multicolored_fur multicolored_tail naughty_face necklace nude nude_modelling orange_body orange_eyes orange_fur paintbrush painter painting pantherine partially_clothed ponytail pose side_boob smile smirk sound_effects stick_figure striped_body striped_fur stripes tail tail_markings tawnyfluff text third-party_edit tiger tom_fischbach transformation tuft twokinds unimpressed white_body white_fur yellow_body yellow_fur
absurd_res anthro armband bat blizzard_entertainment blonde_hair blue_border border breasts brown_eyes brown_nose canid classical_architecture clothed clothing cloud column creating_art cuff_(restraint) digital_media_(artwork) duo fangs feathers female flower fully_clothed gem greek hair hairy handcuffs hi_res long_hair male mammal melee_weapon membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings metal_cuffs nipples nude nude_modelling outside plant polearm pose pubes restraints rock rubella_the_worgen ruby_(gem) ruby_the_bat_(ruby_savarin) scar sculpture shackles sky spear statue stone_carving stone_work tattoo teeth temple tilmariel vampire warcraft weapon werecanid werecreature wings worgen
4_fingers 5_fingers abs accessory amber_eyes anthro arched_back arm_tuft armwear avian bangs beak bedroom_eyes bell bell_collar belly biceps big_ears bird black_armwear black_body black_bottomwear black_claws black_clothing black_collar black_feathers black_fur black_hair black_mane black_markings black_nails black_nose black_pants black_pawpads black_shirt black_tail black_topwear blonde_hair blue_bottomwear blue_clothing blue_eyes blue_hair blue_pants blue_shirt blue_topwear bodily_fluids bottomwear bow_(feature) bow_accessory bow_ribbon breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_hair brown_leash brown_tail brush canid canine canis casual_nudity cellphone cheek_tuft chest_tuft class claws clothed clothed/nude clothed_female clothed_male clothing cloud collar collar_ring collar_tag colored_nails convenient_censorship creating_art d0ggy dark-lightwolf day denim denim_bottomwear denim_clothing dipstick_tail domestic_cat domestic_dog drawing drawing_(action) drawing_(object) drawing_in_a_drawing dress ear_piercing ear_ring ear_tuft elbow_tuft electronics eye_markings eyebrows eyelashes eyewear facial_markings facial_tuft feathers felid feline felis female fingers fishnet_armwear fishnet_clothing fluffy fluffy_tail fur fur_markings furgonomics furniture german_shepherd glasses glistening glistening_eyes glistening_nose gloves_(marking) gold_(metal) gold_ear_ring gold_jewelry green_body green_eyes green_fur green_markings green_tail grey_belly grey_body grey_bottomwear grey_clothing grey_fur grey_pants group gull hair half-closed_eyes head_markings head_tuft herding_dog heterochromia holding_brush holding_cellphone holding_object holding_paintbrush holding_phone humanoid_hands humor inner_ear_fluff inside jackvanguard jagon jeans jewelry jorinda khirahl kitt-n-valentine lagomorph lari larid leash leporid letigre licking licking_lips light lion long_ears long_hair long_tail looking_aside looking_at_another lynx maho-gato male male_focus mammal mane mane_hair markings medium_breasts messy modelling multicolored_beak multicolored_body multicolored_feathers multicolored_fur multicolored_tail muscular muscular_male muzzle_(marking) nails name_tag narrowed_eyes navel neck_tuft necklace no_sclera non-mammal_breasts nude nude_modelling one_eye_closed open_mouth open_smile orange_body orange_eyes orange_fur orange_tail paint paintbrush painting pantherine pants pastoral_dog pawpads pecs phone picture_frame piercing pink_body pink_clothing pink_dress pink_fur pink_nose pink_stripes pink_tail pink_tongue pivoted_ears pointy_ears pose prick_ears pubic_mound purple_body purple_fur purple_stripes purple_tail rabbit recording red_beak red_clothing red_shirt red_topwear ribbons ring_piercing seductive self_lick shadow shirt short_hair short_tail shoulder_tuft silvanuswolff sitting sky slim smile snout snout_markings social_nudity solo_focus stool striped_body striped_fur striped_markings striped_tail stripes studded_collar studs suyuki sweat tail tail_accessory tail_bell tail_bow tail_markings tail_ribbon tail_tuft tan_belly tan_body tan_fur tan_hair tan_tail tassar teeth tiger tongue tongue_out topwear tuft two_tone_body two_tone_feathers two_tone_fur two_tone_tail uhoh white_beak white_belly white_body white_collar white_feathers white_fur white_pawpads white_tail window wolf wristband yellow_beak yellow_eyes
2010 anthro artist beret breasts brown_hair brush canvas clothing creating_art duo female flick-the-thief green_eyes hair hat headgear headwear human like_a_boss loose_feather male mammal model nipples nude nude_modelling paint paintbrush painting palette pose raphael_(tmnt) renaissance reptile scalie teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles turtle unimpressed

On the other hand simply searching "nude artist" or "nude model" could work too. But I guess this would exclude stuff with only the model (for "nude artist"), only the work of art (both "nude artist" and "nude model), or where the artist is also the model (possibly?):

2015 2:1 5_toes absurd_res anthro anthrofied arbok barefoot bean_bag big_breasts biped breasts candle carpet conditional_dnp creating_art darkened_nipples dialogue digital_drawing_(artwork) digital_media_(artwork) draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls english_text fan_character feet female flexing furniture generation_1_pokemon gift hand_behind_head hi_res humor meme mixed_media muscular muscular_anthro muscular_female nintendo nipples non-mammal_breasts nude nude_modelling oblivious odalisque on_ground pokemon pokemon_(species) pokemorph portrait pose prosthetic prosthetic_arm prosthetic_limb purple_nipples reptile rug scalie sebrina_arbok simple_background sketch sketchbook smile snake snake_hood solo table talking_to_viewer text the_urge_within toes wide_hips zp92
3:4 anthro antlers biped branch courtyard deer feral frank_fleming grandfathered_content hooves horn lagomorph lamp leporid log low_res male mammal nude outside plant rabbit real sculpture sculpture_(artwork) sitting solo statue stick traditional_media_(artwork) tree wood
anthro antlers biped car coachlights deer frank_fleming hooves horn ihop log low_res mammal nude outside plant real sculpture sitting solo story-teller story-telling tree utility_pole vehicle wood
accessory alternate_species animal_genitalia anthro balls bell biped claws david_(biblical_figure) david_(michelangelo) domestic_cat felid feline felis fully_sheathed furgonomics furrification genitals hi_res inspired_by_formal_art male mammal muscular muscular_anthro muscular_male navel nipple_piercing nipples nude parody piercing sculpture sheath simple_background solo standing statue tail tail_accessory tail_bell tribute truegrave9 white_background
3:4 5_fingers 5_toes amaterasu_(okami) anthro anthrofied areola arm_tuft artist back_boob big_breasts big_butt biped black_body black_eyes black_fur black_nose black_tail breasts brush butt canid canine canis canvas capcom casual_nudity cheek_tuft clover_studio creating_art crossed_legs curvy_figure deity digital_media_(artwork) facial_tuft feet female fingers fluffy fluffy_tail fur furniture glistening glistening_body glistening_fur hair half-closed_eyes hi_res holding_brush holding_object holding_paintbrush hourglass_figure humanoid_feet humanoid_hands inspired_by_formal_art light_theme long_hair long_tail looking_at_mirror looking_at_object lying mammal markings mirror narrowed_eyes nipples nude nude_modelling okami_(capcom) on_side paintbrush painting pink_areola pink_nipples pink_tongue plantigrade portrait_(object) rear_view red_body red_eyes red_fur red_hair reflection self_portrait shadow shoulder_tuft simple_background sitting slim small_waist solo stool tail thefuckingdevil toes tongue tongue_out triple_self-portrait tuft white_background white_body white_fur white_hair white_tail wide_hips wolf

From the way it looks, I guess artistic_nudity can work as a tag and be useful when searching. But if it's gonna be used, should a broader or narrower definition be used for the tag? Additionally, should posts that are more sexually suggestive be included too?

animal_genitalia animal_penis anthro armband athletic athletic_anthro athletic_male balls barefoot belt biceps big_penis biped canine_genitalia canine_penis claws clothing dialogue dragon draw_me_like_one_of_your_french_girls english_text erection eyebrows feet genitals green_balls green_body green_hair green_nipples green_scales hair hand_behind_head heart_symbol horn ineffective_clothing inside knot legband long_tail looking_aside looking_at_viewer male meme mostly_nude multicolored_body multicolored_scales mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology navel nipples nude_modelling paws pecs penis pink_penis pose red_eyes scales scalie short_hair signature slim small_waist smile snout solo speech_bubble spinal22 spitey tail talking_to_viewer text thick_tail white_claws white_horn wristband
3_toes anthro armpit_hair back_markings badger balls barrel belly biceps blue_bottomwear blue_clothing blue_sclera body_hair bottomwear brown_eyes bruce_(brucebadger) brucebadger canid canine canis canvas cheek_tuft chow_chow clothed clothed/nude clothed_male clothing creating_art detailed_background domestic_dog duo easel eraser eyebrows facial_tuft feet fence flaccid flower front_view fur fur_markings fur_tuft furniture genitals graphite_(artwork) grass grey_balls grey_body grey_fur grey_tail hand_on_hip hand_on_knee hand_on_leg hugo_(brucebadger) humanoid_genitalia humanoid_penis leaf male mammal manly markings mature_anthro mature_male multicolored_body multicolored_fur musclegut muscular muscular_male mustelid musteline navel neck_tuft nude nude_modelling outside overweight overweight_anthro overweight_male pants pencil_(object) penis pink_penis pinup plant plantigrade pose pubes purple_nose raised_leg rear_view rock short_tail shorts smile spitz stool tail toes topless traditional_media_(artwork) tree triceps tuft two_tone_body two_tone_fur white_body white_fur white_markings
1:1 accessory adolescent anthro apple_bloom_(mlp) apple_buruma_project applebloomers art_class artist bow_(feature) bow_accessory bow_ribbon breasts centered_hair_bow clothed clothing creating_art drawing_in_a_drawing duo earth_pony english_text equid equine eyes_closed female friendship_is_magic hair_accessory hair_bow hair_ribbon hasbro horse lumineko mammal model my_little_pony nipples nude nude_modelling on_one_leg patreon patreon_logo pony pose ribbons simple_background standing text tree_hugger_(mlp) url website_logo young
2013 abs absurd_res age_difference anthro apple artist back_groove balls banana bare_chest barefoot blonde_hair blue_eyes blue_hair breast_grab breasts brown_body brown_fur brown_hair butt calico_cat canid canine canis canvas captcha chair chameleon cheetah class clothed clothing collarbone creating_art deer digital_media_(artwork) dildo domestic_cat domestic_dog door easel else_(masterful) erection eyewear feet felid feline felis fellatio felrasa_(bigchris369) female female/female fluffy fluffy_tail flying_squirrel food fruit fur furgonomics furniture genitals glasses green_eyes group group_sex hair hand_on_breast hare heterochromia hi_res husky hybrid illyana_(verbmynoun) incest_(lore) inside interspecies jordan_(talon2point0) kneeling lagomorph leporid leroy_cameron lion lissa_jo_(jacinth) lizard long_hair male male/female mammal mottled multicolored_hair mustelid navel nekonya_(bigchris369) nipples nordic_sled_dog nude nude_modelling on_chair oral oral_penetration orange_(fruit) orgy otter painting palette pantherine panties penetration penile penis piebald pink_hair plant prichard_(talon2point0) procyonid pussy rabbit raccoon red_eyes reptile risingdragon rodent rokuke_shiba_(character) sarah_(985323) scalie school sciurid sex sex_toy simon_(985323) sitting skyla_(blastothehanar) small_breasts spitz stool student table tail tail_through_skirt tail_under_skirt teacher teacher_and_student tiger topless toying_partner two_tone_hair underwear vaginal vaginal_penetration vein veiny_penis window young young_anthro

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D.D.M. said:

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on the whole, not having an artistic_nudity would create extremely niche series of tag searches. one wonder whether it would be of any benefit to create an artistic_nudity tag, what rules would apply to its application to posts, and if it will result in the same broad subjectivity as tasteful_nudity

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Genjar

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2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari painting_(artwork) pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

Would nude_modeling work for those? (It'd definitely need an alias with nude_modelling, because both spellings are valid.)[/sup]

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Genjar said:
Would nude_modeling work for those? (It'd definitely need an alias with nude_modelling, because both spellings are valid.)[/sup]

That sounds a lot better as a tag than artistic_nudity. And it'd be a lot simpler in terms of the wiki description: when a character is modeling nude.

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Genjar

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2011 annoyed antennae_(anatomy) arthropod biped black_markings blessed_image blue_eyes bottomwear clothed clothing crossed_arms daww digital_media_(artwork) digital_painting_(artwork) digital_watercolor_(artwork) duo feral front_view green_body hawk_moth human insect insect_wings lepidopteran lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari painting_(artwork) pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background simulated_traditional_(artwork) solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view topwear watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

Artist_signature should just be aliased to signature. Since it'll probably get used again even if cleaned.

Edit: ...submitted the alias.

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