NotMeNotYou said:
New CoC update!

This it's not change of the rules, but adding record worthy offenses from the DNP list directly into the rules. The goal of this change is to allow people to directly see what will lead to records when posting without having to read both the CoC and the DNP list.

Genjar said:
Is this change still in effect? As far as I can see, it never actually got added to the avoid posting list.

Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less thena quarter of tere size an the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

NotMeNotYou said:
New CoC update!

This it's not change of the rules, but adding record worthy offenses from the DNP list directly into the rules. The goal of this change is to allow people to directly see what will lead to records when posting without having to read both the CoC and the DNP list.

Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less then a 1/2 of their size and the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

zhi1911 said:
Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less thena quarter of tere size an the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

1. 17 year olds are not children, nor do they look like children. Also, neoteny is a thing. (Relax, Kagami Shuna is over 18 in this gif.)
2. If you don't want to see children or young teens, try adding "young human" to your blacklist.
3. Morality is subjective, and irrelevant in fictional art.

zhi1911 said:
Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less then a 1/2 of their size and the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

*sigh*

You cannot draw child porn. Child porn involves a real human child being sexually abused in front of a real physical camera. What you are calling "child porn" is in fact NOT the same thing, because it is drawn images of fictional anthropomorphic characters and no one is actually being abused.

Seriously, please stop trying to equate cub pornography with child pornography. They are NOT the same thing.

zhi1911 said:
Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less thena quarter of tere size an the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

Could you rephrase that entirely? It sounds like you are saying no child pornography, which is already ruled as no Real Life Pornography, and that you do not know that what is hosted on site and child pornography is two separate things.

*edit* here, a forum where this topic has been brought up. All of this would probably be better suited there.

InannaEloah said:
You cannot draw child porn. Child porn involves a real human child being sexually abused in front of a real physical camera. What you are calling "child porn" is in fact NOT the same thing, because it is drawn images of fictional anthropomorphic characters and no one is actually being abused.

Seriously, please stop trying to equate cub pornography with child pornography. They are NOT the same thing.

I think he meant this, and I'm pretty sure fictional children still count as children just as fictional dogs still count as dogs.

BlueDingo said:
I think he meant this, and I'm pretty sure fictional children still count as children just as fictional dogs still count as dogs.

U.S. law has tried several times to ban fictional underage erotica and has, surprisingly, been successfully challenged and pushed back every time.

This is courtesy of the obscenity principle - but underage erotica is probably way more likely to be found by a jury to be obscene, compared to erotica of only adult characters, all other factors unchanged.

BlueDingo said:
I think he meant this, and I'm pretty sure fictional children still count as children just as fictional dogs still count as dogs.

No, because in order for it to qualify as a child, it needs to be an actual identifiable real child. A fictional character in a drawing does not qualify, at least under US law, as a child, and therefore the drawings you linked to are *not* child pornography. Child pornography is child abuse, because it involves real children being physically abused. A drawing of a fictional character is not a photograph of a real child being physically abused, so no, it is not child porn.

Also, fictional dogs do not count as real dogs in US law either. A drawing of a fictional dog being fucked from behind by a human is not considered bestiality in the United States. In the same manner that Bugs Bunny is not considered a real rabbit, so a drawn dog in a furry art picture is not considered a real dog.

InannaEloah said:
No, because in order for it to qualify as a child, it needs to be an actual identifiable real child. A fictional character in a drawing does not qualify, at least under US law, as a child, and therefore the drawings you linked to are *not* child pornography. Child pornography is child abuse, because it involves real children being physically abused. A drawing of a fictional character is not a photograph of a real child being physically abused, so no, it is not child porn.

Also, fictional dogs do not count as real dogs in US law either. A drawing of a fictional dog being fucked from behind by a human is not considered bestiality in the United States. In the same manner that Bugs Bunny is not considered a real rabbit, so a drawn dog in a furry art picture is not considered a real dog.

I'm not referring to the terms as they are defined in law and I never said a fictional depiction counts as real. I'm speaking from more of a layman's perspective and using non-legal definitions for terms.

BlueDingo said:
I think he meant this, and I'm pretty sure fictional children still count as children just as fictional dogs still count as dogs.

not really... I can attack a dog in a game or read about one being attacked in a book, it does not equate dog abuse in the real world and the same can be said for drawings. they are not real they are 100% fiction

zhi1911 said:
Can we please add : NO dipictionsof children or someone that looks like a child (under 18) they can not be less then a 1/2 of their size and the same species of animals.

There would be no point of not loading child porn if you are drawing child porn. Please I beg you its morally wrong

I've looked at your profile and your comments, and I really think you need to check yourself. All you actually do is tell people to fuck themselves and to "stfu." The fact that you are here kinda scares me because you might be attempting to either troll or even worse, start an argument.

curseitkris said:
not really... I can attack a dog in a game or read about one being attacked in a book, it does not equate dog abuse in the real world and the same can be said for drawings. they are not real they are 100% fiction

Why do people keep interpreting "fictional thing is a thing" as "fictional thing is a real thing"? "A thing" and "a real thing" do not mean the same thing.

It doesn't matter if the thing in question is real or fictional, it still considered an instance of that thing. Seriously, I feel like I'm talking to people who look at this and with a straight face, would tell people "that thing is not a dog because that thing is not real".

IMO both curseitkris and you are being obtuse in opposite but equal ways.

What is relevant is whether the dog is legally a dog, not whether it is conceptually a dog. Fictional dogs do not have legal standing. The definition of 'real' is irrelevant.

(if this sounds hilariously pedantic, go talk to a lawyer for a while.)

BlueDingo said:
Why do people keep interpreting "fictional thing is a thing" as "fictional thing is a real thing"? "A thing" and "a real thing" do not mean the same thing.

It doesn't matter if the thing in question is real or fictional, it still considered an instance of that thing. Seriously, I feel like I'm talking to people who look at this and with a straight face, would tell people "that thing is not a dog because that thing is not real".

i've run across that type of person before as well. it's that whole inability to differentiate fiction from reality thing some people seem to suffer from.

1. this is a dog.

2.this is a real dog.

but apparently some people can't differentiate the 2 and consider the dog in #1 to be just as real as dog #2 despite #1 clearly being a picture someone drew. my first suspicion upon encountering such a person would be that something isn't quite right with their mind. o.O

a great example would be mr. pepper.

New Code of Conduct Update!

Changed Rule:

Impersonating an Employee or Moderator
Suggested Suspension Length: Permanent
This category includes:

• Passing yourself off as a current or past employee of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, especially to post false information
• Passing yourself off as a current or past moderator of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, especially to post false information
• Passing yourself off as another user to harass or besmirch them or their reputation

Passing yourself off as anyone else is not generally acceptable, and if it is someone who has been suspended or banned, it may lead to your account being banned

This is intended to make sure that all official information comes from admin accounts, and not someone else. This includes posting official information on a friend’s account, or even an alternate one. Make sure that if you are posting information, you do it from your administrator or moderator account. This also goes for ban-evaders, if someone tries to impersonate them, we will assume it is them trying to evade the ban. Example: Hey everyone, it’s EDFDarkAngel1 on a friend’s account. I wanted to tell you about some of the upcoming site changes…

Added Rules:

Name Changes
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

• Common names are not reserved, if you give up a common name through a name change we will not help you get it back
• Unique names are reserved for 14 days

Common names (like names of popular characters and common words, e.g. "Charizard") are free to be taken by someone else after a name change and we will not help you get it back. More leeway will be given for more unique names (e.g. "SamCollie313" or "TheFlattestPumpkin") in the event that someone "steals" it.

This is intended to help give users some leeway with their username. We will help if a unique name is lost for any reason, but we will not offer assistance if it happens to a very generic name.

Solicitation
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days

This category includes:

• Soliciting personal or otherwise confidential information of another user or users.
• Requesting, demanding, or offering to trade real life photographs, videos, or any other form of media from another user or users
• Requesting, demanding, or offering to trade information from another user or users

If someone asks you for your own personal photos or other personal information, do not answer them and report the comment, blip, forum post, or dmail to the staff!

This is intended to keep the pagesite safe and secure for all our users. While we are not going to discipline any users for reasonable requests, such as a what they had for breakfast, or pictures of their world famous chili recipe, we do allow users to report any incidents that appear to act against the best intentions of the site.

Please let us know what you think of those. As always, feedback on spelling is most welcome.

Edit: Fixed some typos because I'm stupid, fixed an entirely wrong sentence because I suck at pasting.

NotMeNotYou said:
text wall

So I can't ironically say "send nudes" anymore? lol

FoxyBomb said:
So I can't ironically say "send nudes" anymore? lol

If it's clear that it's meant as a joke we may give leeway.

Solicitation

(...) This is intended to keep the page safe and secure for all our users (...)

Shouldn't this read "to keep the site safe and secure"?

NotMeNotYou said:
Please let us know what you think of those.

Somebody must have gotten creative at trolling.

Oh and the rule changes. The first rule with the new changes could be just "Deliberately passing yourself as another person" unless you really want to point out which cases are especially unacceptable.

Looks good, :D

NotMeNotYou said:
If someone asks you for your own personal photos or other personal information, do not answer them and report the comment, blip, forum post, or dmail to the staff!

What if it's consensual? I'm guessing you would ask those in question to take it to another platform?

This sucks, I can't casually ask for the age of a suspected underage person anymore now. :P

NotMeNotYou said:
New Code of Conduct Update!

Changed Rule:

Added Rules:

Please let us know what you think of those. As always, feedback on spelling is most welcome.

Edit: Fixed some typos because I'm stupid, fixed an entirely wrong sentence because I suck at pasting.

No worries. I always make sure to post as myself, and I am not affiliated with any businesses. Though, what happens if someone hacks your account? What happens to them?

Mdf said:
What if it's consensual? I'm guessing you would ask those in question to take it to another platform?

This sucks, I can't casually ask for the age of a suspected underage person anymore now. :P

If it's consensual it'd be better that happens outside of this page. Would also be in your best interest because we can't delete dmails and stuff, meaning you'd leave permanent traces somewhere on the internet. It's better to use services with end-to-end encryption for sharing personal data.
Past that we only care if it's reported as unwanted, if they're wanted I highly assume no party will bring in staff into the matter.

EsalRider said:
Shouldn't this read "to keep the site safe and secure"?

Oh, I'll fix this right away.

DankMeme7 said:
No worries. I always make sure to post as myself, and I am not affiliated with any businesses. Though, what happens if someone hacks your account? What happens to them?

The hacked person needs to contact staff, chances are there will be traces left that will allow us to figure out whether it was the owner of the account or a malicious 3rd party.

NotMeNotYou said:
If it's consensual it'd be better that happens outside of this page. Would also be in your best interest because we can't delete dmails and stuff, meaning you'd leave permanent traces somewhere on the internet. It's better to use services with end-to-end encryption for sharing personal data.
Past that we only care if it's reported as unwanted, if they're wanted I highly assume no party will bring in staff into the matter.

Oh, I'll fix this right away.

The hacked person needs to contact staff, chances are there will be traces left that will allow us to figure out whether it was the owner of the account or a malicious 3rd party.

Okay. Thanks.

NotMeNotYou said:
CoC update

That last part should say:

we do NOT allow users to report any incidents that appear to act against the best intentions of the site.

Syderen said:
That last part should say:

we do NOT allow users to report any incidents that appear to act against the best intentions of the site.

But that makes no sense? We want users to report things that go against the best intentions of the site. What you're proposing would mean they shouldn't report things that have the potential to be harmful.

Question: What exactly is considered to be a "common word"?
I imagine that 'flush', 'Canada', 'stag_beetle', 'cherry' etc. are included in this category, but my username for example? And words/symbols like 'aerolite', 'Phaseolus_vulgaris', 'Yucatan_peninsula', 'tanto', '54%', 'Mt._Olympus', 'exuviae', 'hygrometer' etc?

We don't have any hard guidelines for that (why even would we?), but if it's a word you would expect to find inside a dictionary, comes from a game, or has a similar public source it's probably going to be common.

O16 said:
Question: What exactly is considered to be a "common word"?

You can start with these.

NotMeNotYou said:
We don't have any hard guidelines for that (why even would we?), but if it's a word you would expect to find inside a dictionary, comes from a game, or has a similar public source it's probably going to be common.

Considering that exist "complete" dictionaries for formal and informal english for each english-speaking country and many knowledge sub-fields have their own dictionaries as well; that encompasses almost every word except for the non-popular neologisms.

O16 said:

Considering that exist "complete" dictionaries for formal and informal english for each english-speaking country and many knowledge sub-fields have their own dictionaries as well; that encompasses almost every word except for the non-popular neologisms.

Then you have answered your own question.

I mean, we're talking about names here. If your name is a single word it's probably not unique, if you use two random words chances are your name is now already much more unique. The border where an amalgamation of common words becomes unique is fluid and depends on a bunch of factors.

FoxyBomb said:
So I can't ironically say "send nudes" anymore? lol

congress already passed a law saying it's illegal in some states now...

senate bill 255
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/sen/sb_0251-0300/sb_255_bill_20130507_amended_sen_v98.html

I know I am me, and I have no interest in being anyone else. So I have no qualms with this new rule.

Since the "Solicitation" Rule now requires staff to take anything even remotely solicit-sounding fully seriously and at face value, does this mean the future end of jokes and sarcasm on e621?

NotMeNotYou, any chance my username will cause issues? Folks mistake me every so often for Braeburned, though I do make a good faith effort to clear it up when it happens.

Brayburned said:
NotMeNotYou, any chance my username will cause issues? Folks mistake me every so often for Braeburned, though I do make a good faith effort to clear it up when it happens.

As long as you make it clear that you aren't the artist (which you do) then you won't have any issues.

A part of me wants to ask if I can get my old username (hairydevil) back, but on the other hand, I've grown accustomed to this one over the years. I'm torn.

HarryDevil said:
A part of me wants to ask if I can get my old username (hairydevil) back, but on the other hand, I've grown accustomed to this one over the years. I'm torn.

Well, the Code of Conduct forum thread probably wouldn't be the place to do it either way.

LoveTheBehind said:
So how would someone steal a name anyway?

Ask Yubaba. She does it often.

Teeny tiny update: I split the first section "Code of Conduct Introduction" into "Code of Conduct Introduction", "Table of Contents", and "Glossary", because those were all hidden in there and that was annoying me.

No actual changes to any rules whatsoever.

Rather significant update: All records will now slowly "decay" in 6 month intervals. This means that any negative record old enough will become a neutral, and then eventually being deleted. So if you haven't broken the rules in a couple years you're actually now able to get back to a pristine account.

Actual text on the CoC:

Decay of Records:

• Any record for a suspension will be turned into a negative record after 6 months of no new infractions
• Any negative record will be turned into a neutral record after 6 months of no new infractions
• Any neutral record will be removed after 6 months of no new infractions

Permanent bans will never expire but may be appealed through email]

This is not something that is performed by the page itself but instead must be done manually by a member of staff, so if you have old records that qualify please let one of us know and we'll clean them up for you.

woah...neg records can now expire and bans appealed? that's some big news.

uh... DMail sent.

NotMeNotYou said:
This is not something that is performed by the page itself but instead must be done manually by a member of staff, so if you have old records that qualify please let one of us know and we'll clean them up for you.

I've got a negative record from four years ago.

Rally said:
I've got a negative record from four years ago.

Done.

My green apple jolly rancher is safe from this, right?

Furrin_Gok said:
My green apple jolly rancher is safe from this, right?

nop gonna delet

How long does it take for these to "expire"? I got into a bit of a spitting contest with some users I find less than savory and now the admins are on me. I don't know if they examined the context of this but I find their stance on my position to be just as distasteful.

Let me be clear, I am trying to remain civil about this. I don't know the proper channels to contest this and I'm trying to stay calm but I am exceedingly angry about this...

digitalpunk2005 said:
How long does it take for these to "expire"? I got into a bit of a spitting contest with some users I find less than savory and now the admins are on me. I don't know if they examined the context of this but I find their stance on my position to be just as distasteful.

Let me be clear, I am trying to remain civil about this. I don't know the proper channels to contest this and I'm trying to stay calm but I am exceedingly angry about this...

As is literally written above: 6 months for neutrals, and a total of 12 months for a simple negative record.

And yes, the context has been examined, but your comment is harassing in nature towards them, which is the important part here.

NotMeNotYou said:
As is literally written above: 6 months for neutrals, and a total of 12 months for a simple negative record.

And yes, the context has been examined, but your comment is harassing in nature towards them, which is the important part here.

If you have examined the context of which my statement was made and find that I am still at fault, even though I still don't believe that I am, I will accept that. I'll just avoid responding to them.

BTW the statement I refer to is the one which I have a negative strike for. That is the one I contested. When I went back and looked at the one I have a neutral strike for I couldn't find any flaw in the decision on it.

NotMeNotYou said:
This is not something that is performed by the page itself but instead must be done manually by a member of staff, so if you have old records that qualify please let one of us know and we'll clean them up for you.

I have a neutral from eleven months ago, if it's not asking too much.
I blame myself for not realizing nhentai was pirated content sooner.

I'm curious if these records will still be visible even though they effectively wear off over time. Even though the record doesn't count against the user, will the details of the incident still be public?

Mdf said:
I'm curious if these records will still be visible even though they effectively wear off over time. Even though the record doesn't count against the user, will the details of the incident still be public?

Nope. When they're gone, they're gone.

NotMeNotYou said:
Rather significant update: All records will now slowly "decay" in 6 month intervals. This means that any negative record old enough will become a neutral, and then eventually being deleted. So if you haven't broken the rules in a couple years you're actually now able to get back to a pristine account.

Actual text on the CoC:

This is not something that is performed by the page itself but instead must be done manually by a member of staff, so if you have old records that qualify please let one of us know and we'll clean them up for you.

As far as I know, this change is not new, because at least unofficially, this was perhaps already a year ago already applied to at least one user. This I found at that time already unfair, since one had simply so 2 negatives had cleared.

I think it is very good to be able to clean up his mistakes of the past, but I have to think about the change. Instead of deleting the negatives of the past, I'd rather give the counter to 0 digits or a positive as a reward for reasonable behavior. That would be better in my opinion, because you will see in your solution later no longer whether a user, with which there are problems, already had problems in the past when his negative records are deleted.

PlüschTiger said:
As far as I know, this change is not new, because at least unofficially, this was perhaps already a year ago already applied to at least one user. This I found at that time already unfair, since one had simply so 2 negatives had cleared.

I think it is very good to be able to clean up his mistakes of the past, but I have to think about the change. Instead of deleting the negatives of the past, I'd rather give the counter to 0 digits or a positive as a reward for reasonable behavior. That would be better in my opinion, because you will see in your solution later no longer whether a user, with which there are problems, already had problems in the past when his negative records are deleted.

German - Deutsch

So weit ich weiß ist diese Änderung nicht neu, denn zumindest inoffiziell wurde diese vor vielleicht einem Jahr schon bei mindestens einem User angewandt. Dies fand ich zu jener Zeit schon unfair, da man einfach so 2 Negative gelöscht hatte.

Ich finde es durchaus gut das man seine Fehler der Vergangenheit wieder bereinigen kann, doch habe ich bei der Änderung etwas bedenken. Statt die Negativen der Vergangenheit zu löschen, würde ich eher den Zähler auf 0 Stellen oder ein Positives als Belohnung für vernünftiges Verhalten geben. Das wäre meiner Meinung nach besser, denn ihr seht bei eurer Lösung später nicht mehr ob ein User, mit dem es Probleme gibt, bereits in der Vergangenheit Probleme gab, wenn seine negativen Records gelöscht sind.

If somebody causes trouble only once a year, then I'm fine with it. If it's major enough, they'll get a bigger penalty anyways.

Not trying to sound needy or anything but i have 2 neutrals from 8 months ago..

I have one from 7 months ago

with the new COC rules if you have 2 negative records both from six months ago would they both become neutral or only one at a time?

I changed the thread title, if someone has a better idea to make it more obvious that CoC related stuff goes here then please let me know.

Well I am certain I have at least one negative record that is more than six months old and I have had no infractions since then. So whenever you are ready.

tiamat5 said:
Well I am certain I have at least one negative record that is more than six months old and I have had no infractions since then. So whenever you are ready.

It's a record for a ban so nothing I can do right now since the page doesn't allow changing the level of a ban record.

New update! This one is a large one, but everything is color coded.

A large part of those are old suggestions from Parasprite, but some are fairly recent problems that we've encountered and have now rolled into one.
This should be the last large rule update for quite a while.

Glossary
Post: An image or other content uploaded to e621, on the posts section of the website. Not to be confused with a 'forum post'.
Comment: A textual comment made on a Post, on the posts section of the website, or blips in the blip section]
Forum Thread: A 'thread' of comments on a single subject, on the forums section of the website.
Forum Post: A comment made on a Forum Thread.

Changed the order slightly and hyperlinked the sections so the links can go properly to the e621 or e926 version of the website.

Abuse of Site Tools

• Using any of the site tools, such as Flag for Deletion, ticket reporting system, takedowns, notes, or any other site tool in a fashion that can be construed as disruptive, spamming, or defamatory
• Putting gibberish in any of the description fields
• Repeatedly submitting invalid, incorrect, or unnecessary requests
• Repeatedly submitting username change requests
• Using Unicode in tickets, username changes, or any other use of site tools
• Using any of the site tools to “backseat moderate”
• Reporting forum posts, threads, comments, blips, or any other site media that is older than 6 months

• added blips for bad reporting
• added hyperlink to backseat moderating
• clarified forum posts instead of normal posts
• Removed using unicode in tickets because this has been made obsolete sometime last year

Bestiality

• Creating a post, forum post, or thread that is an inappropriate reference to real-life bestiality, sexual relations, or bodily functions
• Linking or commenting on a website that promotes material that contains inappropriate references to real-life bestiality, sexual relations, or bodily functions
• Linking to explicit, real-life material involving animal genitalia or animals mating

Added linking to explicit bestiality and clarified for real-life genitalia and mating, so fantasy/ drawn stuff is still fine.

Creating Duplicate Forum Threads
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

• Creating forum threads about existing topics less than six months old
• Creating a separate forum thread about an existing topic for further discussion in another forum category
• Creating a separate forum thread about an existing locked topic for further discussion in any forum or site

This is intended to reduce clutter on the website, discouraging users from posting similar or same content in multiple, potentially unrelated, forums or topics. If someone would like to increase visibility of a post for any reason, they can request it from an admin.

Literally deleted this entire section and rolled it into spamming and trolling, so please see below for the actual changes.

Extreme Sexuality / Violence

• Linking to websites that refer to extreme real-life violent sexual activity
• Linking to websites that refer to extreme real-life violence
• Linking to websites that refer to extreme kinks and/or fetishes

Videos of rape, snuff, executions, and similar material all fall under this category.
Linking to generic pornographic material is still fine as long as it doesn't break any other rules.

Clarifications of the intent of the rule so it's easier to understand.

Illegal Activities or Drugs
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

• Forum threads or comments that references to abusing illegal drugs
• Forum threads or comments that references to performing illegal activities

Admitting to partaking in arson, bestiality, kidnapping, manslaughter or other similar serious crimes will lead to the permanent closure of your account.
Being a convicted felon for any of the above crimes may also lead to the permanent closure of your account.

This is intended to make sure we are not promoting drug use or other illegal activities in commentary form. For example it is okay if someone posts a picture of someone shooting up, but it is not okay if someone comments that they like to shoot up. We do not want anyone looking at the comments and thinking drug abuse or other illegal activities areis acceptable (because someone else is doing it). Example: a post where a strung-out character has a needle in their arm (okay) Comment in the post’s thread: Oh wow, that reminds me of me an hour ago! (not okay)

Changed the title so it is in alphabetical order.
Also added that admitting to, or being convicted of, bestiality or other serious crimes anywhere on the page will lead to their permanent removal. Neither do we need to deal with legal implications of people who actively partake in illegal activities (for Arizona/US), nor do we need to endanger our users by allowing known convicted felons to be on our page.

National, Racial, or Ethnic Hatred

• Promoting national, racial, or ethnic hatred
• Creating posts, threads, or comments with recognized national, racial, or ethnic slurs
• Creating posts, threads, or comments with hateful content
• Alluding to symbols of national, racial, or ethnic hatred

This is intended to make sure people aren’t outwardly offending people’s national, racial, or ethnic pride or members of a government. This is something that we need to gauge by intent, not just presentation. There are acceptable forms of art that present shock value, or an unpopular point of view, but where we need to step in is if someone is deliberately being malicious.

This is simply a combination of National Hatred and Racial / Ethnic Hatred because they overlap so much. At the same time this means Racial / Ethnic Hatred as it's own category got axed.
Removed the mention of "or members of the government" because those are better protected under Major Religions, Religious Figures, Political Parties, or Political Figures.
In the wake of renaming this I've also changed the anchor on the rule page from #NationalHatred to just #Hatred.

Posting Unreleased Content / Hacking Data Files

• Showing unreleased content from anyone that has been discovered through unauthorized means
• Showing the results of successful or attempted hacks of the Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621 servers, websites, or affiliates
• Showing paid content, or creating forum posts or comments that link to content only available through paid subscription services
• Discuss, or display any data not available via public websites
• Quoting, or otherwise referencing, another user who posts illegal/paid content or data

Please note that paid content over 2 years old is acceptable to post if it doesn't break any other rules

Here we clarified forum posts since Posting Abuse covers normal posts and a small clarification that paid content in posts is fine if it doesn't break other rules.

Spamming or Trolling

• Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
• Creating comments, forum posts, or threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest
• Causing disturbances in forum threads or comments, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, and/or insult other members
• Making non-constructive or derailing forum posts or comments.
• Bragging about saving DNP material, or encouraging others to save it
• Abusing the Flagging for Deletion option, Report system, or other website tools by sending false information or nonsensical messages
• Creating forum threads about existing topics less than six months old
• Creating a separate forum thread about an existing topic for further discussion in another forum category
• Creating a separate forum thread about an existing locked topic for further discussion in any forum or site
• Excessively posting old threads without adding anything to the discussion
• Excessively creating pointless threads like forum games, asking for opinions on site irrelevant themes, asking for free art, etc
• Numbering a thread, IBTL, ITT, TL;DR, or any other fad statements

Added duplicate forum posts category (as outlined above), added necroposting, added the creation of pointless threads, clarifying some stuff, added one acronym.
A new highlight is the spiel about bragging to save DNP stuff and encouraging others to do the same. This was in poor taste before, it's now an actual offense that can get you banned.
Please note: Offering to draw free stuff for people, asking about opinions relevant to the page (furry themes, something related to our posts old and new, etc. is still fine). Don't expect to see too many records for forum spam.

Tagging Abuse / Tagging Vandalism
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

• Failure to cite a minimum of 4 tags to an uploaded post
• Adding a tag to a post that is not either clearly visible, or reasonably assumed
• Removing a valid tag, either as part of a dispute/argument, or to place one that is not correct
• Failure to properly set the rating of your upload (https://e621.net/help/ratings)
• Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link
• Adding invalid/disruptive tags, or any tags that could be considered as defamatory or spam
• Using Unicode in tags, with the exception of foreign artist/character names

Moved tampering with the sources to tagging abuse, and subsequently removed them from Posting Abuse.

As always please let us know what you think about those changes, and if there is anything we should change or rework!

Looks pretty good to me.

The Illegal Activities or Drugs section, admitting to utilizing hard drugs, is that also a permanent shutdown of your account or is that still viable for the suggested suspension length of three to seven days? I'm guessing drug usage doesn't go under the "serious crimes" section along with animal fucking, kidnapping etc.

It's currently not grounds for a direct removal, but we may opt for a permanent ban if they offer to share or sell.

What does "IBTL" mean?

Parasprite says it stands for "in before thread lock".

How does allowing known convicted felons on the site endanger our users? These people were deemed safe to sit next to you on the bus, but not on a website?

toboe said:
How does allowing known convicted felons on the site endanger our users? These people were deemed safe to sit next to you on the bus, but not on a website?

i suspect it's more about the site's reputation

I tried to quote https://e621.net/forum/show/234226
but the text I wanted to quote didn't show up in the response text area

> Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link

If a post is from Pixiv, and has been deleted from Pixiv, but SauceNAO still has a link to the deleted post
like post #1216860
is it ok to add that link to the source field?

Pixiv might not be the best example, but links to other sites contain information, like image titles and character names.

Munkelzahn said:
I tried to quote https://e621.net/forum/show/234226
but the text I wanted to quote didn't show up in the response text area

> Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link

If a post is from Pixiv, and has been deleted from Pixiv, but SauceNAO still has a link to the deleted post
like post #1216860
is it ok to add that link to the source field?

Pixiv might not be the best example, but links to other sites contain information, like image titles and character names.

Probably because it's in a quote block. Nothing changed with that except it got moved into this section. Editing sources to valid ones (even if they have been deleted in the meantime) are fine as long as no currently valid sources are overwritten in the process. Meaning replacing a working source to FA with a dead one from pixiv is bad, but adding a dead source to a post without sources is fine.

toboe said:
How does allowing known convicted felons on the site endanger our users? These people were deemed safe to sit next to you on the bus, but not on a website?

Partially what Munkelzahn said, but on the other hand the rates at which convicted felons of arson or manslaughter go back to committing the exact same crimes is pretty high. Standard prisons are not very effective at rehabilitation.

Been updating the CoC a lot recently...

Also, for some reason, I find it hilarious that you specifically stated "Arizona/US" and not just "US". Poor Arizona...

Clitheroe said:
Been updating the CoC a lot recently...

Also, for some reason, I find it hilarious that you specifically stated "Arizona/US" and not just "US". Poor Arizona...

Our servers are in Arizona, and yeah, a lot of updates recently. Though this is most likely going to be the last one for a good long while.

toboe said:
How does allowing known convicted felons on the site endanger our users? These people were deemed safe to sit next to you on the bus, but not on a website?

It's a lot easier to promote crime online than in the open public, where people can see your face. So like how it's not appreciated to speak highly of criminal backgrounds in normal social situations, it's the same here.

And a quick question about the drug referencing in the comments: is it hard, controlled substances only? I understand that marijuana is not legal everywhere in the United States, but where I live within, it is legal.

NotMeNotYou said:
Probably because it's in a quote block. Nothing changed with that except it got moved into this section. Editing sources to valid ones (even if they have been deleted in the meantime) are fine as long as no currently valid sources are overwritten in the process. Meaning replacing a working source to FA with a dead one from pixiv is bad, but adding a dead source to a post without sources is fine.

What if it does have a working Furaffinity source already, and we add the dead Pixiv source without overwriting the Furaffinity source?