Topic: [e621 Code of Conduct] Official changes, questions and answers

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CamKitty said:
Change the laws, punish people who broke the law before it was official. GENIUS :o

Reporting something, and someone getting punished, are two separate things. If someone wants to report a screenshot from two years ago, I would be okay with that. I'm not going to punish the uploader (nor have we been doing that either). If it was done recently, then that would be different.

Updated by anonymous

I see no rules or limitations that the admins and mods must follow, only a rule that we have to do what they say. Maybe I missed it?

Updated by anonymous

Peekaboo said:
Isn't that what the DNP list is for? Doesn't that just go under the rules we already have? Or did you mean that as in art commissioned by certain peeps?

Doesn't that go under Tagging Abuse/Tagging Vandalism?

No, since commissioners can't be DNP.

And no, since you aren't really required to provide more than the initial 4 tags per upload. Nothing in the coc against consistently leaving out the artist tag. Now if you do it and we ask you to stop, failure to do so is considered an infraction.

Updated by anonymous

CamKitty said:
Change the laws, punish people who broke the law before it was official. GENIUS :o

Except the law has always been that if someone's being a really big jerk or overly creepy, report it. Just because it's six months old or older it should be allowed to stand for everyone else to be exposed to their creepiness/massive jerkitude? That's like saying that just because a kid's behaviour has gone on the same way for six months no one should tell him that acting that way is wrong. At the least the post or comment should be removed if found to be outside the rules, even if the original creator of the post is not punished- which is what I'm really getting at. Tired of seeing creepy or assholish posts get waived from ANYTHING being done about them just because they've been there for awhile, even if not many people have even SEEN the post or comment in question.

Updated by anonymous

123easy said:
Except the law has always been that if someone's being a really big jerk or overly creepy, report it. Just because it's six months old or older it should be allowed to stand for everyone else to be exposed to their creepiness/massive jerkitude? That's like saying that just because a kid's behaviour has gone on the same way for six months no one should tell him that acting that way is wrong. At the least the post or comment should be removed if found to be outside the rules, even if the original creator of the post is not punished- which is what I'm really getting at. Tired of seeing creepy or assholish posts get waived from ANYTHING being done about them just because they've been there for awhile, even if not many people have even SEEN the post or comment in question.

So you are suggesting that we either punish people for things they said eons ago, or that we should censor people. Imagine seeing a strike show up on your account one day for a comment you left months ago that no one even noticed. Or all the backlash we would get if we started hiding comments just because they were unappealing to look at.

Updated by anonymous

ippiki_ookami said:
So you are suggesting that we either punish people for things they said eons ago, or that we should censor people. Imagine seeing a strike show up on your account one day for a comment you left months ago that no one even noticed. Or all the backlash we would get if we started hiding comments just because they were unappealing to look at.

This. I can guarantee almost everyone was a bit of a twat and definitely didn't know tagging/commenting rules when they started here

Updated by anonymous

ippiki_ookami said:
So you are suggesting that we either punish people for things they said eons ago, or that we should censor people. Imagine seeing a strike show up on your account one day for a comment you left months ago that no one even noticed. Or all the backlash we would get if we started hiding comments just because they were unappealing to look at.

And this is why I'm not saying they definitely should be punished- but the post shouldn't just be ignored because "oh, it's old." like I've been told god knows how many times when I've found a post or comment that's offensive hidden away in an uncommon section and report it. Why do you think I stopped bothering to help out around the site aside from implications/alias discussions? Because it's a waste of MY time if the moderators just pass up issues that I bring to them.

Updated by anonymous

ippiki_ookami said:
So you are suggesting that we either punish people for things they said eons ago, or that we should censor people. Imagine seeing a strike show up on your account one day for a comment you left months ago that no one even noticed. Or all the backlash we would get if we started hiding comments just because they were unappealing to look at.

I agree with ippiki on this one. It would be a huge waste of time to hide everything that people find creepy/jerkish. If the admins went around cleaning all of it up, a lot of people would be banned, or have strikes. Plus, getting a strike for a comment you made like 2 months ago would suck... Thats why I left a number of forums in the past, overly ban happy peeps. Admins can control this kinda thing, while we do our job reporting things, nuff said.

Updated by anonymous

I hope mods also do something about users who don't even bother to tag gender and/or sexual orientation on explicit images anymore. I've noticed it's made the blacklist system a bit less useful than it used to be years ago.

Updated by anonymous

Boku_no_Furfag said:
I hope mods also do something about users who don't even bother to tag gender and/or sexual orientation on explicit images anymore. I've noticed it's made the blacklist system a bit less useful than it used to be years ago.

That is something we leave to all the users to handle, not just the admin team. Every user has the ability to fix incorrect/improper tags.

Updated by anonymous

So, new CoC live.

CoC Changelog April 28th 2014:

Reworded Harassing or Defamatory

Harassing or Defamatory

Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Insultingly refer to other people, employees of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, or any groups of people any individuals, including users, site staff, or Bad Dragon employees
  • Performing actions which result in ongoing harassment to other people, employees of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, or any groups of people any individuals, including users, site staff, or Bad Dragon employees

This will be rendered against intent as well as action. The idea is to prevent a member from being uncomfortable in the forums or on the site.

This is intended to stop the insults and offensive comments that some people use. If someone makes a public comment, and someone finds it offensive, it will most likely fall under this. Example: I don’t agree with the admins (okay) The admins here are fucking stupid (not okay)

Put in that we will actively delete old neutrals after 6 months, if that rule hasn't been broken again, negative records are still there for all eternity.
Also clarified the language a bit to bring it in line with how the site itself calls things.

Disciplinary Actions

When a member is found to have violated the Code of Conduct in one or more ways, disciplinary actions will be given from a site administrator in the form of a neutral or negative record. It will contain the specific rule that was broken, and the offending post (or hyperlink to offending post). This is a breakdown of how the disciplinary actions will work:

  • Notification (neutral record): This will serve as an advisement that you have violated the Code of Conduct.
    • If you broke the Code of Conduct in multiple ways that warrant a Notification, everything will be summarized in a single record
  • Warning (negative record): This will serve an official warning that you violated the Code of Conduct.
    • If you broke the Code of Conduct in multiple ways that warrant a Warning, everything will be summarized in a single record
  • Suspension (negative recordBan): This is a temporary ban from the site and forums.
    • If you committed an offense that warranted Suspension, and another one that warranted a Warning, you will only receive one negative record summarizing all offenses. Treat the Warnings as if they were part of the Suspension instead of as Warnings.
  • Permanent Ban (negative recordPerma Ban): This is a permanent ban from e621.net and all other affiliates. This is reserved for repeated offenses and serious violations of the Code of Conduct
    • If you wish to appeal your ban, you may contact the Community Manager

Notifications will be removed after 6 months time if the broken rule has not been violated a second this timeframe.

Completely removed:

Discussing Disciplinary Actions

Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Creating forum posts, threads or comments to discuss disciplinary actions taken against a member, including chat logs and email correspondence between a member and an administrator/moderator
  • Creating forum threads or posting comments to discuss disciplinary actions taken against a content post, or other submission to the site

Link to public records is located at https://e621.net/user_record
If you have a question about a disciplinary action, please contact the admin or site owner via dmail or email.

This is intended to prevent drama and concerns over how someone was disciplined. While records are publicly available information, any disputes/communication over said records or any other disciplinary action is confidential between the user and the admin team. Discussing it publicly would only serve to cause disruption and is generally ill-advised. It is encouraged that any and all discussion about disciplinary actions occur via email or dmail and directly to the admin in question or senior management group.

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CoC Apr. 11th 2014

e621 Community Code of Conduct and Site Rules

Last Updated: April 11th 2014

Code of Conduct Introduction

The forums and website are here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss ideas, give advice, and converse about other aspects of e621 with fellow members. The community forums and primary website are at their best when participants treat their fellow posters with respect and courtesy. Therefore, we ask that you conduct yourself in a civilized manner while participating in these forums.

The guidelines and rules listed below explain what behavior is expected of you and what behavior you can expect from other community members. Note that the following guidelines are not exhaustive, and may not address all manner of offensive behavior. As such, the forum moderators shall have full discretion to address any behavior that they feel is inappropriate. Also, suspension or banishment from the posting section of the website will always result in the same regard to forum access. Your access to the forums and website is a ‘privilege’, and not a ‘right’. We reserve the right to suspend your access to the forums and website at any time for reasons that include, but are not necessarily limited to, your failure to abide by these guidelines. In addition, these guidelines are not enforced on the e621 IRC channel, or similar off-site social channels. Likewise, any guidelines in use for the e621 IRC channels, or similar off-site social channels will not affect your access on the forums or website. Please note that the application of these rules varies based on the section of the website it is posted. Some things are OK to be as part of a 'Post' submission to the website, whereas it would not be OK as part of a 'Forum Thread'.

We reserve the right to evaluate each incident on a case by case basis. The action we take may be more lenient or more severe than those listed under each category:

Abuse of Site Tools
Advertising
Age Restrictions
Backseat Moderating
Bestiality
Blacklist
Circumventing a Suspension / Ban
Creating Duplicate Threads
Creepy Comments
Cross Linking Threads
Discussing Disciplinary Actions
Disregard of the Site Administration
Distribution of Real-Life Personal Information
Extreme Sexuality / Violence
Harassing or Defamatory
Major Religions, Religious Figures, Political Parties, or Political Figures
National Hatred
Illegal Drugs or Activities
Impersonating an Employee
Plagiarism
Posting Abuse
Posting Cheats, Hacks, Trojan Horses or Malicious Programs
Posting Unreleased Content / Hacking Data Files
Racial / Ethnic Hatred
Real-Life Threats
Role-Play
Sexual Orientation
Spamming or Trolling
Tagging Abuse / Tagging Vandalism

Glossary
Post: An image or other content uploaded to e621, on the posts section of the website. (https://e621.net/posts/). Not to be confused with a 'forum post'.
Comment: A textual comment made on a Post, on the posts section of the website
Forum Post: A comment made on a Forum Thread.
Forum Thread: A 'thread' of comments on a single subject, on the forums section of the website (https://e621.net/forum/)[/section]

Code of Conduct Policy Categories

Abuse of Site Tools
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Using any of the site tools, such as Flag for Deletion, ticket reporting system, takedowns, notes, or any other site tool in a fashion that can be construed as disruptive, spamming, or defamatory
  • Putting gibberish in any of the description fields
  • Repeatedly submitting invalid, incorrect, or unnecessary requests
  • Repeatedly submitting username change requests
  • Using Unicode in tickets, username changes, or any other use of site tools
  • Using any of the site tools to “backseat moderate”
  • Reporting forum posts, threads, comments, or any other site media that is older than 6 months

It should be noted that if a user reports a forum post, thread, comment, or any other site media that is older than 6 months, but contains a publicly visible malicious link, that will be exempt from this rule

In addition, if a person who is submitting content wishes it for it to be removed, for any reason, within 48 hours, that request will be honored.

This is aimed at making sure trolls and other disrespectful people do not detract or harm the look of the website by putting it requests for admin action with no clear, real, or valid basis. An example is someone who issues multiple username change requests in a short period of time. Another is someone repeatedly reporting another user’s comments when they didn’t break any rules.

Advertising
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Any non-beneficial, non-approved related businesses, organizations, or websites
  • Can be linked with Spamming or Trolling if it is used multiple times in a short period of time

If you are the content creator of a given post, it is acceptable and encouraged for you to advertise products or services you may offer, in the 'description' field of your post. In the future, we hope to offer a more streamlined and useful system for the promotion of your own work.
If you wish to promote your product or service, please contact [email protected] with any questions/approvals
Visit https://e621.net/forum/show/10410 for more information

This is intended to prevent people from using e621’s forums and posts from being a source of income/traffic for their unrelated business. If someone would like to advertise on the website, we encourage them to contact us so we can try and get them better exposure. This also allows them a place to go if they want to pay for a banner on the website. Not all ads have to be paid for either, and in some cases, we allow businesses or projects to receive free promotions in order to do good for the community.

Age Restrictions
Suggested Suspension Length: Permanent
This category includes:

  • Any persons under the age of 18, or as determined by local laws
  • Any comment or evidence of being under the age of 18

Your account is your responsibility. If your account was breached/hacked, then you can dispute the problem and we will look into it on a case-by-case basis
If found to violate this rule, the account may be banned until the user’s 18th birthday.

Even though different states/provinces/territories have different rules, e621.net’s management and service office is located in Arizona, USA and it is by those laws that we are responsible for. We cannot knowingly allow any minors to view pornographic content, so we must be proactive in preventing this underage access. This includes accounts that are either legally or illegally accessed by minors. Furthermore, we require photo identification and proof of someone turning 18 in order to release access to their account. Such proof can be sent to the senior management group to determine authenticity, and must include the user’s face as well as the government or state issued identification, or other applicable document.

Backseat Moderating
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Implying moderator/administrator privileges where none exist
  • Non-administrator/moderator/staff threatening to use disciplinary actions against another user
  • Demanding, ordering, or otherwise stating to an administrator/moderator/staff certain administrative actions to be taken against another user

This is aimed at preventing non-administrators from attempting to enforce the rules of the website. It does not matter if the user was correct, or incorrect, in their actions. Most, if not all, users are largely unaware of the daily dealings with the admin staff and would not be aware of any pending changes or discussions. In addition, users cannot demand an admin ban someone, report a comment, take down art, or any of the moderator/administrator actions. However, they can request that we look into something, so that we may perform our own research and resolve it without bias. Example: Sending a PM to an admin telling them to ban a user, with or without a reason. Example: Sending in a ticket citing a rule violation, then stating that if it wasn’t done to their satisfaction, they want all of their art removed from the site.

Bestiality
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Creating a post, forum post, or thread that is an inappropriate reference to real-life bestiality, sexual relations, or bodily functions
  • Linking or commenting on a website that promotes material that contains inappropriate references to real-life bestiality, sexual relations, or bodily functions

The two keywords here are “real-life” and “inappropriate”. Obviously, there are going to be bestiality references, and the nature of our site has to be more lenient about it than most. However, the moment someone mentions or posts about a real-life animal and makes sexual comment about it, then they fall under this. No personal discussion. If someone makes a sexual reference to a drawn or imaginary animal, that is fine. Example: I tried to get the horse penis to be realistic in size (okay) Man, I fucked my neighbor’s horse so hard last night (not okay).

Refusal to Use Blacklist
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Creating posts, threads, or comments that complain about artwork that can be blacklisted
  • Wrongfully claiming lack of knowledge about the blacklist system to avoid punishment from the previous rule

This is intended to reduce or eliminate the complaints that users make about seeing a certain type of content on the site. If a user chooses, or refuses, to utilize the blacklist, but continues to complain about content they find offensive or unsatisfactory, then this rule may be enforced. Additionally, if a user finds a post that is incorrectly tagged and willingly chooses to complain about seeing it instead of placing the correct tag, this rule may also be enforced then.

Circumventing a Suspension / Ban
Suggested Suspension Length: Permanent
This category includes:

  • Posting anything on another account
  • Having someone post on your behalf

If someone is found to have violated this rule, they may be banned with no appeal, regardless of previous disciplinary action
Alternate accounts are generally okay, so long as they are not used to evade the suspension/ban

Fairly self-explanatory. If someone gets Suspended or Banned, and they try to go on a friend’s account, or alt account, and post anyway, that account gets banned as well. The other side to this is if they were under a short-term suspension and they go around to circumvent it, that short-term suspension becomes a permanent ban. If a user does this, but acts in such a way as to not continue the actions that got them banned, then an admin may choose not to enforce this rule, under the guise of helping the greater good.

Creating Duplicate Forum Threads
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Creating forum threads about existing topics less than six months old
  • Creating a separate forum thread about an existing topic for further discussion in another forum category
  • Creating a separate forum thread about an existing locked topic for further discussion in any forum or site

This is intended to reduce clutter on the website, discouraging users from posting similar or same content in multiple, potentially unrelated, forums or topics. If someone would like to increase visibility of a post for any reason, they can request it from an admin.

Creepy Comments
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Creating forum posts, threads, or comments that cause an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease, or are sexually inappropriate

This is intended to ensure that users do not express their personal fetishes/desires publicly. Users have the right, within realistic expectations, to browse comfortably without unneeded or unnecessary commentary of those who wish to express their desires.

Discussing Disciplinary Actions
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Creating forum posts, threads or comments to discuss disciplinary actions taken against a member, including chat logs and email correspondence between a member and an administrator/moderator
  • Creating forum threads or posting comments to discuss disciplinary actions taken against a content post, or other submission to the site

Link to public records is located at https://e621.net/user_record
If you have a question about a disciplinary action, please contact the admin or site owner via dmail or email.

This is intended to prevent drama and concerns over how someone was disciplined. While records are publicly available information, any disputes/communication over said records or any other disciplinary action is confidential between the user and the admin team. Discussing it publicly would only serve to cause disruption and is generally ill-advised. It is encouraged that any and all discussion about disciplinary actions occur via email or dmail and directly to the admin in question or senior management group.

Disregard of the Site Administration
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Failure to abide by direct instructions by an administrator, moderator, and/or employee of Bad Dragon or Dragonfruit

This is intended to make sure that any instructions given by the staff of e621 are followed, but is mainly for minor things that are annoying or disrupting.

Distribution of Real-Life Personal Information
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Releasing or assisting in releasing any real-life information about other members or employees of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, or anyone else

If someone is found to have violated this rule, they may be banned with no appeal, regardless of previous disciplinary action

Self-explanatory for the most part, but any attempt to reveal personal information, whether true or not, about someone will qualify. Example: I heard EDFDarkAngel1 lives in Phoenix (okay) I heard that EDFDarkAngel1 drives a red 1961 Ferrari GT California (not okay).

Extreme Sexuality / Violence
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Linking to websites that refer to extreme real-life violent sexual activity
  • Linking to websites that refer to extreme real-life violence
  • Linking to websites that refer to extreme kinks and/or fetishes

The intent is to prevent real-life violent content from websites we do not control from being exposed to users of e621. The rule specifically mentions links to other websites since we control the content here. As to what defines as “extreme kink” is going to be judged on a case-by-case basis. However, if it is ruled that one thing is extreme kink, it must be consistent in that ruling. For example, if you consider scat as an extreme kink (not saying that we should), all posts and comments that contain scat should be removed as well, so judge wisely. Example: a post of a drawn character getting graphically and brutally slaughtered (okay). A forum thread linking to 4chan’s /c/ thread (not okay)

Harassing or Defamatory
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Insultingly refer to other people, employees of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, or any groups of people
  • Performing actions which result in ongoing harassment to other people, employees of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, or any groups of people

This will be rendered against intent as well as action. The idea is to prevent a member from being uncomfortable in the forums or on the site.

This is intended to stop the insults and offensive comments that some people use. If someone makes a public comment, and someone finds it offensive, it will most likely fall under this. Example: I don’t agree with the admins (okay) The admins here are fucking stupid (not okay)

Major Religions, Religious Figures, Political Parties, or Political Figures
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Any discussion in forum posts, threads, or comments regarding major religions or religious figures
  • Any discussion in forum posts, threads, or comments regarding major political parties or political figures

The main point behind this is, while we do encourage free speech and we have no problem with someone saying “thank God” or “Jesus blesses you”, we have to draw the line at an actual discussion, as it often leads to passionate and heated debate and a general distraction from what is ultimately a porn website. The same goes for politics, we know that people want to talk about it, and often do, but there are places for that and they are not here.

National Hatred
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Promoting national hatred
  • Creating posts, threads, or comments with recognized national slurs
  • Creating posts, threads, or comments with hateful content
  • Alluding to symbols of national hatred

This is intended to make sure people aren’t outwardly offending people’s national pride or members of a government. This is something that we need to gauge by intent, not just presentation. There are acceptable forms of art that present shock value, or an unpopular point of view, but where we need to step in is if someone is deliberately being malicious.

Illegal Drugs or Activities
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Forum threads or comments that references to abusing illegal drugs
  • Forum threads or comments that references to performing illegal activities

This is intended to make sure we are not promoting drug use in commentary form. It is okay if someone posts a picture of someone shooting up, but it is not okay if someone comments that they like to shoot up. We do not want anyone looking at the comments and thinking drug abuse is acceptable (because someone else is doing it). Example: a post where a strung-out character has a needle in their arm (okay) Comment in the post’s thread: Oh wow, that reminds me of me an hour ago! (not okay)

Impersonating an Employee or Moderator
Suggested Suspension Length: Permanent
This category includes:

  • Passing yourself off as a current or past employee of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, especially to post false information
  • Passing yourself off as a current or past moderator of Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621, especially to post false information

Passing yourself off as anyone else is not generally acceptable, and if it is someone who has been suspended or banned, it may lead to your account being banned

This is intended to make sure that all official information comes from admin accounts, and not someone else. This includes posting official information on a friend’s account, or even an alternate one. Make sure that if you are posting information, you do it from your administrator or moderator account. This also goes for ban-evaders, if someone tries to impersonate them, we will assume it is them trying to evade the ban. Example: Hey everyone, it’s EDFDarkAngel1 on a friend’s account. I wanted to tell you about some of the upcoming site changes…

Plagiarism
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Wrongfully claiming ownership of artwork
  • Tracing artwork without the consent of the original owner or artist
  • Repeatedly creating unauthorized edits after the original artist asked to stop

Commonly known as art theft, this is something we take very serious as the work of artists are the life blood of our website. Any found traced pictures will be deleted and any wrong claims will be hidden or corrected.
Important to note, we still allow “fan edits” but we will remove them if the artist wishes so and we may take action against the editor if the edits continue to be uploaded after the artist has asked to stop them.

Posting Abuse
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Knowingly uploading previously deleted content
  • Posting content listed in the Avoid Posting List (https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=avoid_posting)
  • Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available
  • Uploading screenshots, images under 200x200 pixels, images with artifacts or large watermarks, and/or non-artistic images (motivational posters, Second Life, memes, image macros, etc.)
  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information
  • Using post descriptions to express personal feelings, create drama, or otherwise take away from describing the attached post
  • Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions

This is intended to ensure there is a minimum level of quality on the website, by ensuring people who have specifically requested that their art not be on the site, removing art that is sufficiently poor quality, or encouraging tag usage. It also is expanded to include post descriptions and ensure that no one uses it to vandalize someone’s post.

Posting Hacks, Trojan Horses, or Malicious Programs
Suggested Suspension Length: Permanent
This category includes:

  • Creating posts, threads, or comments that link to hacks or malicious programs/viruses

If you want to report a hack or other malicious program, please contact the site administrator via the Contact Us page with screenshots and/or other evidence sufficient to reproduce the problem
If someone is found to have violated this rule, they may be banned regardless of previous disciplinary action
Alternatively, you may contact any admin via dmail, email, or IRC chat to report this issue

This is intended to keep the website free of unwanted software/malware. Understand that the user may not be outwardly aware that their link is harmful, but most are pretty obvious that they intend to infect others. Example: a post containing a hyperlink to a website with generic/unrelated content and a large number of attention-grabbing ads

Posting Unreleased Content / Hacking Data Files
Suggested Suspension Length: e621 or Bad Dragon related, Permanent. All others, 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Showing unreleased content from anyone that has been discovered through unauthorized means
  • Showing the results of successful or attempted hacks of the Bad Dragon, Dragonfruit, or e621 servers, websites, or affiliates
  • Showing paid content, or creating posts or comments that link to content only available through paid subscription services
  • Discuss, or display any data not available via public websites
  • Quoting, or otherwise referencing, another user who posts illegal/paid content or data

Please note that paid content over 2 years old is acceptable to post

Since e621 is an extension of Bad Dragon, with it comes the expectation that if someone comes into access with unreleased content, whether it be an unreleased toy, new concept or design, or paysite material, that they do not post it in e621. We take our security very seriously, and any breaches are investigated fully. Example: a post containing a Bad Dragon toy that isn’t released yet.

Addendum: If someone asks about unreleased content, and the answer is that it hasn’t been released or is otherwise unavailable, than that is okay. Discussion regarding its contents, location, opinions of such, or anything pertaining to unreleased content is not acceptable.

Racial / Ethnic Hatred
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Promoting racial/ethnic hatred
  • Language that is recognized as a racial/ethnic slur
  • Creating posts, threads, or comments with hateful content
  • Alluding to a symbol of racial/ethnic hatred

The same as National Hatred, we just have to be careful how we judge this. This is something we need to gauge by intent, not just presentation. Example: a post of a black character in a cotton field with a plantation behind them (okay). A post of a black character in a cotton field being whipped by white characters (not okay)

Real-Life Threats
Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Language that refers to violence in any capacity against a person or persons

If someone is found to have violated this rule, they may be banned with no appeal, regardless of previous disciplinary action

Offensive language and behavior may be tolerated if everyone is okay with things, but the moment it turns into anything else, we need to step in. Administrators and moderators are expressly forbidden to use offensive behavior or language in any communication while assuming official responsibilities. Example: I will kick your ass if you flag one of my posts again (not okay)

Role-Play
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Initiating or partaking in explicit role-play of any type
  • Impersonating fictional/nonfictional characters or people
  • Initiating or partaking in role-play with characters in the related thread/post

This is intended to prevent a culture that is inherently self-destructive and takes away from the website. There are acceptable forms of role-play, typically that which reinforces a point, creates humor, or otherwise does not cause a disruption. Even in this setting, however, role-play must be just a single comment, and cannot be made in response to another role-player.

Sexual Orientation
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Insultingly refer to any aspect of sexual orientation pertaining to themselves or other members

The intent is to prevent anyone’s sexual orientation from being the target of malice, harassment, etc. Example: I picked up a fag from the ground (okay). Then I dropped him back down again (not okay).

Spamming or Trolling
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days, or Permanent
This category includes:

  • Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest
  • Causing disturbances in forum threads or comments, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, and/or insult other members
  • Making non-constructive or derailing posts or comments.
  • Abusing the Flagging for Deletion option, Report system, or other website tools by sending false information or nonsensical messages
  • Numbering a thread, IBTL, TL;DR, or any other fad statements

Spamming is self-explanatory, but unless the entire thread is joining in and enjoying an offensive or harassing comment, someone who posts insulting comments should get flagged. We will have to use common sense when enforcing this; people can have opinions and state them, but that does not allow them to make someone else feel bad or unwanted. If no one complains or gets offended, AND it’s not an outwardly offensive remark, then it will be okay. However, if someone complains, gets offended, OR it’s an outwardly offensive remark (I think EDFDarkAngel1 is an asshole and should be shot), then they need to be flagged.

Tagging Abuse / Tagging Vandalism
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 days
This category includes:

  • Failure to cite a minimum of 4 tags to an uploaded post
  • Adding a tag to a post that is not either clearly visible, or reasonably assumed
  • Removing a valid tag, either as part of a dispute/argument, or to place one that is not correct
  • Failure to properly set the rating of your upload (https://e621.net/help/ratings)
  • Adding invalid/disruptive tags, or any tags that could be considered as defamatory or spam
  • Using Unicode in tags, with the exception of foreign artist/character names

The purpose for this is to prevent users from abusing the system that for easy searching/indexing of the posts. This enforces the site’s “Tag What You See” rule, in that you cannot tag an image as “male” or “female” unless there is visible evidence of that. Even if another site has the same character with better visibility of its gender, that post uniquely must contain those elements. Mistagging, adding invalid tags, or removing valid tags are not punishable for a one-time offense, but they will be disciplined if they produce a pattern of tagging abuse.

IMPORTANT
Repeatedly violating any area of the e621 Community and Forums Code of Conduct, including the areas detailed above, will often result in banishment from the forums and site.
This policy is not language-restrictive. Language that falls under this policy will always be subject to the repercussions listed, whether it is inappropriate in English or any other language.
The bottom line is that we want e621.net to be a fun and safe environment for all members. While posting on its forums and on the site, you will encounter thousands of other people who share different experiences and come from vastly different backgrounds. While certain language and images may or may not be offensive to you, consider the fact that the same language and images may have a completely different effect on someone else.

User Ranks

When first creating an account, you will automatically be set as Member. Through tagging/posting contributions to the site, as well as constructive behavior, you may get promoted by an administrator. If you feel that you should get promoted based on your efforts, you can contact the website administration via the Contact Us page and request it.

Member: Can search up to six tags simultaneously. Must wait three days to edit tags, and a week to upload, vote, and comment

Privileged: Unlimited tag edits and comments, can search up to eight tags simultaneously, can apply tag scripts, use Dtext color tags and tag subscriptions

Contributor: No upload limit, submitted posts are auto-approved

Janitor: Can delete forum posts

Moderator: Unlimited access, with the exception of editing forum categories, job tasks, news, takedowns, editing post votes, create/delete aliases and implications, ticket system, change usernames, and modify upload limits

Administrator: Unlimited access to all site tools and reports

If you have been given a position above Member, then it is expected that you will respect others and behave according to the e621 Community and Forums Code of Conduct. If at any time you fail to adhere to these rules, you may lose your elevated position.

Administrators/Moderators must act professionally and kindly when dealing with the userbase, insults and harassment will not be tolerated and will likely lead to that administrator or moderator’s dismissal.

Disciplinary Actions

When a member is found to have violated the Code of Conduct in one or more ways, disciplinary actions will be given from a site administrator in the form of a neutral or negative record. It will contain the specific rule that was broken, and the offending post (or hyperlink to offending post). This is a breakdown of how the disciplinary actions will work:

  • Notification (neutral record): This will serve as an advisement that you have violated the Code of Conduct.
    • If you broke the Code of Conduct in multiple ways that warrant a Notification, everything will be summarized in a single record
  • Warning (negative record): This will serve an official warning that you violated the Code of Conduct.
    • If you broke the Code of Conduct in multiple ways that warrant a Warning, everything will be summarized in a single record
  • Suspension (negative record): This is a temporary ban from the site and forums.
    • If you committed an offense that warranted Suspension, and another one that warranted a Warning, you will only receive one negative record summarizing all offenses. Treat the Warnings as if they were part of the Suspension instead of as Warnings.
  • Ban (negative record): This is a permanent ban from e621.net and all other affiliates. This is reserved for repeated offenses and serious violations of the Code of Conduct
    • If you wish to appeal your ban, you may contact the Community Manager
Contact Information

Senior Management
Dave Reynolds / EDFDarkAngel1 (Community Manager/Lead Admin) – [email protected]
Aaron Urbina / DasaDevil (Admin) – [email protected]
Robert Nobis / NotMeNotYou (Admin) – [email protected]
Varka (Owner) – [email protected]

Questions about the rules?

Questions about the ruling of one of the admins?

Questions about the ruling of EDF?

Please note that we will not discuss actions against a specific user except with the user themselves

These guys can help you with questions in a language besides English.

German: NotMeNotYou
Spanish/Mexican: DasaDevil

Updated by anonymous

So, do we have to request the old neutral warnings be removed? Or are they supposed to go automatically? Or what?

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
So, do we have to request the old neutral warnings be removed? Or are they supposed to go automatically? Or what?

Request is fine. If I was looking at a user's profile to investigate a ticket or whatnot, I usually will delete an old neutral then.

Updated by anonymous

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Request is fine. If I was looking at a user's profile to investigate a ticket or whatnot, I usually will delete an old neutral then.

K, I have 2 old ones, if you have a minute to knock those off.

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
K, I have 2 old ones, if you have a minute to knock those off.

Done!

Updated by anonymous

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Done!

I thought old ones placed under the previous ruling were never taken off? That was the decision that I remember you coming to when I asked about that very rule in regards to my ancient neutral.

Updated by anonymous

Mine were 6, and 10 months.
Technically the 10 month one was pre-new rules.
The 6 month one wasn't though.

Updated by anonymous

Generally, no they're not. The objective is so, since the existing rules indicates that the second time someone has broken a rule warrants a negative, someone doesn't have to be afraid of breaking that rule for their entire time here.

I personally felt that the neut didn't need to be there, but you're right. I have taken yours off too, because that wouldn't be fair to you.

We'll look at each situation individually, but what I did shouldn't be the norm. Sorry about being inconsistent :(

Updated by anonymous

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
... Sorry about being inconsistent :(

Better than being incontinent.

Updated by anonymous

Fixed a sentence.

Notifications will be removed after 6 months time if the broken rule has not been violated a second this timeframe.

Is now

Notifications will be removed after 6 months time if the broken rule has not been violated twice in this timeframe.

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
Fixed a sentence.

Notifications will be removed after 6 months time if the broken rule has not been violated a second this timeframe.

Is now

Notifications will be removed after 6 months time if the broken rule has not been violated twice in this timeframe.

Should say neutral records instead of notifications.

Updated by anonymous

Ah, this explains why my second one finally fell off. Cool cool

Updated by anonymous

So, people can discuss bans now? I wonder how long it'll be before some drama pops up due to that.

Updated by anonymous

Shiitake said:
So, people can discuss bans now? I wonder how long it'll be before some drama pops up due to that.

It never did before the rule was put into place, so I'm guessing it won't in the future.

Updated by anonymous

New CoC-Update! [25th Aug. 2014]

This time there are only 2 additions (one directly, one indirectly), one sentence will be relocated, a short clean up in the introduction (we consolidated some things but didn't take them out of the list in the introduction block), as well as 2 fixed spelling errors.

Direct Addition to the CoC:

Harassing or Defamatory

Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Insultingly refer to any individuals, including users, site staff, or Bad Dragon employees
  • Performing actions which result in ongoing harassment to any individuals, including users, site staff, or Bad Dragon employees
  • Using a User-requested ticket to publicly mock them

Indirect Addition to the CoC:

Avoid Posting List

Avoid Posting List

Avoid posting these things.

  • New commercial content (Doujin, paysites, etc.). If it's less than two years old, don't post it. This includes HD versions only visible on Patreon.
  • Real porn / real images or videos depicting illegal activities (such as bestiality, child pornography, etc.)
  • Images where a person who is not the original copyright owner has placed a watermark on the image.
  • Excessive webcomic rips (more than 5 or more consecutive webcomic pages)
  • Images where compression artifacts are easily visible.
  • Content that is not furry or furry-related. We may still approve it if it's high quality or "special" in some way, but it's still more likely to be deleted than approved.

The spelling mistakes, as well as the relocated sentence being removed:

Abuse of Site Tools

Suggested Suspension Length: 7 days
This category includes:

  • Using any of the site tools, such as Flag for Deletion, ticket reporting system, takedowns, notes, or any other site tool in a fashion that can be construed as disruptive, spamming, or defamatory
  • Putting gibberish in any of the description fields
  • Repeatedly submitting invalid, incorrect, or unnecessary requests
  • Repeatedly submitting username change requests
  • Using Unicode in tickets, username changes, or any other use of site tools
  • Using any of the site tools to “backseat moderate”
  • Reporting posts, threads, comments, or any other site media that is older than 6 months

It should be noted that if a user reports a post, thread, comment, or any other site media that is older than 6 months, but contains a publicly visible malicious link, that they will be exempt from this rule

In addition, if a person who is submitting content wishes it for it to be removed, for any reason, within 48 hours, that request will be honored.

This is aimed at making sure trolls and other disrespectful people do not detract or harm the look of the website by putting it in requests for admin action with no clear, real, or valid basis. An example is someone who issues multiple username change requests in a short period of time. Another is someone repeatedly reporting another user’s comments when they didn’t break any rules.

The above removed sentence gets added here:

Posting Abuse

Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Knowingly uploading previously deleted content
  • Posting content listed in the Avoid Posting List (https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=avoid_posting)
  • Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available
  • Uploading screenshots, images under 200x200 pixels, images with artifacts or large watermarks, and/or non-artistic images (motivational posters, Second Life, memes, image macros, etc.)
  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information
  • Using post descriptions to express personal feelings, create drama, or otherwise take away from describing the attached post
  • Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions

In addition, if a person who is submitting content wishes it for it to be removed, for any reason, within 48 hours, that request will be honored.
After 48 hours, the standard FFD and Takedown policies apply

This is intended to ensure there is a minimum level of quality on the website. By ensuring people who have specifically requested that their art not be on the site, removing art that is sufficiently poor quality, or encouraging tag usage. It also is expanded to include post descriptions and ensure that no one uses it to vandalize someone’s post.

Also cleaned up the contact section, new emails have been added.

Old CoC from 28th Apr. 2014

Updated by anonymous

New CoC-Update! [12th Sept. 2014]

This is another short update. The CoC gets a new Addition in Posting Abuse (removing watermarks is now bad) and another bulletpoint gets a tiny addition to make it sound less threatening.
The "DNP-List":

Posting Abuse

Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

  • Knowingly uploading previously deleted content
  • Posting content listed in the Avoid Posting List (https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=avoid_posting)
  • Removing any watermark(s) or signature(s) from submissions
  • Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading screenshots, images under 200x200 pixels, images with artifacts or large watermarks, and/or non-artistic images (motivational posters, Second Life, memes, image macros, etc.)
  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information
  • Using post descriptions to express personal feelings, create drama, or otherwise take away from describing the attached post
  • Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions

In addition, if a person who is submitting content wishes it for it to be removed, for any reason, within 48 hours, that request will be honored.
After 48 hours, the standard FFD and Takedown policies apply

This is intended to ensure there is a minimum level of quality on the website. By ensuring people who have specifically requested that their art not be on the site, removing art that is sufficiently poor quality, or encouraging tag usage. It also is expanded to include post descriptions and ensure that no one uses it to vandalize someone’s post.

And the DNP gets two short hints.

Avoid posting these things.
  • New commercial content (Doujin, paysites, etc.). If it's less than two years old, don't post it. This includes HD versions only visible on Patreon.
  • Real porn / real images or videos depicting illegal activities (such as bestiality, child pornography, etc.)
  • Images where a person who is not the original copyright owner has placed a watermark on the image.
  • Images where compression artifacts are easily visible.
  • Content that is not furry or furry-related. We may still approve it if it's high quality or "special" in some way, but it's still more likely to be deleted than approved.

Note:
The above can lead to disciplinary action (records) if they are repeatedly broken.

Avoid posting art by these artists (includes collaborations):

Posting anything from these Artists listed below will always result in disciplinary action.
Leeway will be given if you flag your own post for deletion, if you have accidentally uploaded something on the list.

Hint: If you wish to easily search for a specific artist, use the built-in search feature of your browser, generally quickly accessed by pressing Ctrl + F on Windows/Linux and Unix and Command + F on Mac and OSX

Old CoC from 25th Aug. 2014

Updated by anonymous

Surprised removing signatures was not already there. I assume the watermark change is from people removing the ones in the center of images :o

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Leeway will be given if you flag your own post for deletion, if you have accidentally uploaded something on the list.

And what about the cases where someone posts something under unknown_artist, which later gets identified as DNP and flagged?

In the recent months, I've seen some experienced users get hit for DNP violations for that. And sometimes it has seemed very harsh: there was no way to realistically identify those pics, not when there was no signature and reverse image searches turned up nothing.

Or maybe that's just a risk that we have to take if we choose to post any older unsigned works, that have vanished off the net?

Updated by anonymous

CamKitty said:
I assume the watermark change is from people removing the ones in the center of images :o

*grooooan...*

I hate those watermarks, specially the ones that cross over characters or "points of interest" in images... I'm fine with watermarks, but if they're going to go right across the character or a part of the image that catches the eye, thank you annoying_watermark...

Signatures just aren't enough these days..

About the FFD changes, lightbulb... :3

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:

Posting Abuse
  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information

"Editing/creating post descriptions ...to create information" makes no sense to me when I read it. Almost like it's a sentence fragment. "create information"...?? My best guess is that maybe it means you're not supposed to put blatantly false, misleading or otherwise made-up information in the description box. Is that what it's supposed to mean? That would certainly make sense in context of the other rules, (to prevent abuse of a character or prevent possible vandalizing someone's post). But if that's not what it means, then I have no idea what "...to create information" even means. So I hate to ask, but could you clarify what that rule/sentence means exactly? I don't want to run afoul of it because I guessed wrong about the intended meaning of it.

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:

Posting Abuse
Suggested Suspension Length: 3 to 7 days
This category includes:

Series of Posting Abuses examples

  • Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions

Question: Does this mean typos will result in disciplinary action?

It seems to me that this last line is out of place and should be either restated (eg. "Continual and willful refusal to use proper spelling and grammar. Exceptions include typos (at moderators' discretion) and text mangled for effect that doesn't violate the TOS (also at moderators' discretion).") or put as a recommendation on its own line separate from the bullet points.

Updated by anonymous

Is it me? Or the new rules changes are more strict? :/

Updated by anonymous

Clawstripe said:
Question: Does this mean typos will result in disciplinary action?

No, that rule applies to users who constantly type like this:

"H3Y GUYYYZZ!! 0MG I LUV DIS P0ST B3ST ART EVAAAHHHHH!!!!"

Updated by anonymous

Mdf said:
About the FFD changes, lightbulb... :3

If you're thinking what I'm thinking then I have to warn you that I can smell if you do that accidentally or not.

furrypickle said:
"Editing/creating post descriptions ...to create information" makes no sense to me when I read it. Almost like it's a sentence fragment. "create information"...?? My best guess is that maybe it means you're not supposed to put blatantly false, misleading or otherwise made-up information in the description box. Is that what it's supposed to mean? That would certainly make sense in context of the other rules, (to prevent abuse of a character or prevent possible vandalizing someone's post). But if that's not what it means, then I have no idea what "...to create information" even means. So I hate to ask, but could you clarify what that rule/sentence means exactly? I don't want to run afoul of it because I guessed wrong about the intended meaning of it.

I actually had to to ask this myself back when this was created, if I recall correctly this is intended to make sure that people can't just edit a description to suit their tastes when the original uploader/artist intended something different.

As an example, artist creates the story in a description about how the depicted image is some sick perversion about two lovers engaging in consensual missionary sex.
If now someone comes in and changes the description to be a story about how the fresh prince of bel air started couple is actually drug rape incest with a hint of stockholm syndrome then that would be a reason to slap people.

That, or using above example to be all like "this is incest, needs to be tagged as incest! I know what I'm talking about, I wrote it".

Clawstripe said:
Question: Does this mean typos will result in disciplinary action?

It seems to me that this last line is out of place and should be either restated (eg. "Continual and willful refusal to use proper spelling and grammar. Exceptions include typos (at moderators' discretion) and text mangled for effect that doesn't violate the TOS (also at moderators' discretion).") or put as a recommendation on its own line separate from the bullet points.

We could make that a tier 2 bullet point.

  • not here
    • but here

Would that be more visible that this isn't really to be thought to be a slap able rule and more a suggestion?

Xch3l said:
Is it me? Or the new rules changes are more strict? :/

Depends, we find things that people irk (take downs because someone removed watermarks of the artist) and then check if it is something that we could need in the rules.

Otherwise we also make them less strict, clarify them, or take out, knowingly or repeatedly is less strict than the wording before, which made it possible to do this with the first offense.

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
I actually had to to ask this myself back when this was created, if I recall correctly this is intended to make sure that people can't just edit a description to suit their tastes when the original uploader/artist intended something different.

As an example, artist creates the story in a description about how the depicted image is some sick perversion about two lovers engaging in consensual missionary sex.
If now someone comes in and changes the description to be a story about how the fresh prince of bel air started couple is actually drug rape incest with a hint of stockholm syndrome then that would be a reason to slap people.

That, or using above example to be all like "this is incest, needs to be tagged as incest! I know what I'm talking about, I wrote it".

Awesome, thanks. That's a lot more clear and it should be easy to avoid doing.

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
No, that rule applies to users who constantly type like this:

"H3Y GUYYYZZ!! 0MG I LUV DIS P0ST B3ST ART EVAAAHHHHH!!!!"

Reasonable, and, yes, that was my assumption. However, as it reads now, the line doesn't come across to me as "Continual and willful refusal to use proper spelling and grammar", but as a recommended guideline for posting a description, which doesn't seem to fit how the other points are presented.

NotMeNotYou said:
We could make that a tier 2 bullet point.

  • not here
    • but here

Would that be more visible that this isn't really to be thought to be a slap able rule and more a suggestion?

I'd think more like:

  • not here
  • or here
  • or here
  • or here
  • or – you get the idea
  • or – this gag is growing lame
  • or – shut up, Clawstripe

Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions.

In addition....

Although, considering TheHuskyK9's response, a rewording might be better to make it clear that consistent and obnoxious misspellings, poor grammar, and pointless lolspeak are also posting abuse.

Updated by anonymous

I have just noticed the webcomic rule. I have asked for the reason in the IRC, and melonyan answered that it was because they get less traffic, and thus less money.

However artists on FurAffinity, Inkbunny, SmackJeeves, ... don't get paid, thus making no difference to any other artwork. Does this rule apply also to these?

It would be a shame, because I discovered the awesome "It's a Hard Life" comic thanks to e621, indeed.

Updated by anonymous

Lizardite said:
I have just noticed the webcomic rule. I have asked for the reason in the IRC, and melonyan answered that it was because they get less traffic, and thus less money.

However artists on FurAffinity, Inkbunny, SmackJeeves, ... don't get paid, thus making no difference to any other artwork. Does this rule apply also to these?

It would be a shame, because I discovered the awesome "It's a Hard Life" comic thanks to e621, indeed.

Most webcomics are hosted on either a privately owned site, thus the creator has to pay the monthly bill for hosting.

Which is why this rule is only for webcomics, people don't need to pay upkeep for their FA or IB galleries.

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
Most webcomics are hosted on either a privately owned site, thus the creator has to pay the monthly bill for hosting.

Which is why this rule is only for webcomics, people don't need to pay upkeep for their FA or IB galleries.

So, just to clarify, the rule about webcomics only applies if it's hosted on its own site? But if a FA, IB, etc artist has a webcomic they do and post it on their FA, IB, etc then those would still be ok to upload?

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
Most webcomics are hosted on either a privately owned site, thus the creator has to pay the monthly bill for hosting.

Which is why this rule is only for webcomics, people don't need to pay upkeep for their FA or IB galleries.

Then what about the comic I mentioned. Is it OK to upload the whole thing here?

http://itsahardlife.smackjeeves.com

Updated by anonymous

furrypickle said:
So, just to clarify, the rule about webcomics only applies if it's hosted on its own site? But if a FA, IB, etc artist has a webcomic they do and post it on their FA, IB, etc then those would still be ok to upload?

Lizardite said:
Then what about the comic I mentioned. Is it OK to upload the whole thing here?

http://itsahardlife.smackjeeves.com

We just discussed this and, for simplicity's sake, we're going to keep the rule for all webcomics, regardless of whether they have their own hosting or not.

So, posting some pages is a yes, dumping the entire thing is a no.

Updated by anonymous

furrypickle said:

Original Question

"Editing/creating post descriptions ...to create information" makes no sense to me when I read it. Almost like it's a sentence fragment. "create information"...?? My best guess is that maybe it means you're not supposed to put blatantly false, misleading or otherwise made-up information in the description box. Is that what it's supposed to mean? That would certainly make sense in context of the other rules, (to prevent abuse of a character or prevent possible vandalizing someone's post). But if that's not what it means, then I have no idea what "...to create information" even means. So I hate to ask, but could you clarify what that rule/sentence means exactly? I don't want to run afoul of it because I guessed wrong about the intended meaning of it.

NotMeNotYou said:

Admin's Response

I actually had to to ask this myself back when this was created, if I recall correctly this is intended to make sure that people can't just edit a description to suit their tastes when the original uploader/artist intended something different.

As an example, artist creates the story in a description about how the depicted image is some sick perversion about two lovers engaging in consensual missionary sex.
If now someone comes in and changes the description to be a story about how the fresh prince of bel air started couple is actually drug rape incest with a hint of stockholm syndrome then that would be a reason to slap people.

That, or using above example to be all like "this is incest, needs to be tagged as incest! I know what I'm talking about, I wrote it".

NotMeNotYou's last sentence may already be saying this but...

I would presume that this rule is also meant to prevent fabrication of a description in order to support a questionable tag. Like say: An image of a character with the ambiguous_gender tag that a user wish's were actually a male or female; thus creates a description to support their idea with no true data to support such a claim.

Am I in the ballpark or way off base here?

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

I suppose someone could try that, but description is considered to be outside information and should have no bearing on how the image is tagged.

Updated by anonymous

I just copy everything from the artists' original posts and paste it in the description. But I do remove unnecessary information like "auctions ahead" or something that doesn't have anything to do with the post.

You can see how I place info on descriptions by looking at my uploads, and is that right or not?

Updated by anonymous

The_Great_Wolfgang said:
I just copy everything from the artists' original posts and paste it in the description. But I do remove unnecessary information like "auctions ahead" or something that doesn't have anything to do with the post.

You can see how I place info on descriptions by looking at my uploads, and is that right or not?

They look fine to me.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

NotMeNotYou said:
Indirect Addition to the CoC:

Avoid Posting List

Avoid Posting List

Avoid posting these things.

  • New commercial content (Doujin, paysites, etc.). If it's less than two years old, don't post it. This includes HD versions only visible on Patreon.
  • Real porn / real images or videos depicting illegal activities (such as bestiality, child pornography, etc.)
  • Images where a person who is not the original copyright owner has placed a watermark on the image.
  • Excessive webcomic rips (more than 5 or more consecutive webcomic pages)
  • Images where compression artifacts are easily visible.
  • Content that is not furry or furry-related. We may still approve it if it's high quality or "special" in some way, but it's still more likely to be deleted than approved.

Is this change still in effect? As far as I can see, it never actually got added to the avoid posting list.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
Is this change still in effect? As far as I can see, it never actually got added to the avoid posting list.

Maybe so, I don't see it in the latest avoid posting list.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
Is this change still in effect? As far as I can see, it never actually got added to the avoid posting list.

Whoops, it's in it now.

Updated by anonymous

Patchi said:
Yeah if Dragonrump or Stink come back then it's bye bye Patch. I don't wanna start fixing Dragonrump's god damn tags again.

thank you so much with all respect.

Updated by anonymous

New CoC update!

This it's not change of the rules, but adding record worthy offenses from the DNP list directly into the rules. The goal of this change is to allow people to directly see what will lead to records when posting without having to read both the CoC and the DNP list.

Posting Abuse
This category includes:

  • Posting works made by one of the artists or publishers on the Avoid Posting List]
  • Posting new commercial content that is not yet 2 years old.
  • Posting real pornography / real images or videos depicting illegal activities (such as bestiality, child pornography, etc.)
  • Knowingly uploading previously deleted content
  • Removing any watermark(s) or signature(s) from submissions
  • Knowingly adding or editing a post source to an incorrect link
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available
  • Knowingly or repeatedly uploading screenshots, images under 200x200 pixels, images with artifacts or large watermarks, and/or non-artistic images (motivational posters, Second Life, memes, image macros, etc.)
  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information
  • Using post descriptions to express personal feelings, create drama, or otherwise take away from describing the attached post
  • Please try to use proper spelling and grammar in post descriptions

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NotMeNotYou said:
New CoC update!

I read that and suddenly wondered why we're keeping track of Corruption of Champions before I reread the thread title.

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Furrin_Gok said:
I read that and suddenly wondered why we're keeping track of Corruption of Champions before I reread the thread title.

It could also standing for Clash of Clans.

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E-hentai eventually created some (kind of halfass if not able to access 'Sad Panda', though) tools that try to help you avoid reposting existing or expunged galleries. Not a major poster at e621/paheal/boorus/etc. so not run into issues, though.

Yeah, sorry for going back in-topic. :P

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That last point seems a little out of place in the list...

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  • Editing/creating post descriptions (if you are not the artist, uploader, character owner, or commissioner) to create information

...Wait. What exactly is this about? Are you saying I'm not allowed to add an artist's or commissioner's info (from a source) to a post if I'm not its uploader?

Unless "to create information" (that seems pretty vaguely worded) means I'd have to be deliberately pulling things from my ass and making it seem as though it's quoting one of the people involved. Now outlawing that I could understand.

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Lyokira said:
That last point seems a little out of place in the list...

i think that one might not be a rule so much as a request and/or guideline mainly.

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Jugofthat said:
...Wait. What exactly is this about? Are you saying I'm not allowed to add an artist's or commissioner's info (from a source) to a post if I'm not its uploader?

Unless "to create information" (that seems pretty vaguely worded) means I'd have to be deliberately pulling things from my ass and making it seem as though it's quoting one of the people involved. Now outlawing that I could understand.

It's best to not fuck with descriptions, because you can do anything a description can in a comment or source field. If you want to give credit to a music maker or the secondary animators, do it in a comment. If they forgot a second source, say the owner's end of the commish'd piece, change the source to include it.

For uploaders, they can use the description to say/relay information that doesn't belong in a comment. For instance, stories, character details, "uploader quips", or artist details. That stuff should not be modified and making a long comment, or series of comments, would be not smart.

So, ultimately, it's curtesy between the first and third parties: uploaders use descriptions to put information that may (not) be needed, third party can choose to comment on it, or add more, or choose not to.

In your example, the smartest method is to use "[.section=*], remove the . , and replace the * with "artist information". Once you are done with the info, end it with [./section] ,again remove the . . It saves people the time of reading through your comment by sectioning it, and if people are interested you've just provided the information they may have needed. A person can't edit your comment, but some random Douchebag McAsshole can choose to re-edit out your description information, so commenting it saves a potential description war.

As pseudo off-topic, I've never seen that rule enforced while looking through negative records, and I'm willing to assume it's because they don't have to, tagging and sourcing is the most common method of adding needed information.

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I was actually talking about adding descriptions from a source to posts that currently have none, definitely not editing something made or put there by someone else, or adding stuff onto it (unless it's entirely sensible, like adding the already quoted person's name, which is clarifying).

Not much harm in that, and it's much more tidy to have that kind of info in the description box instead of a post (again, only if nothing else is currently in there). Because that's literally what it is, a description.

People screwing with them afterwards is very rare too, I can thankfully say from lots of experience. By the way, posts can be downvoted beneath the treshold, so that would ultimately be the same except irreversible.

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Jugofthat said:
...Wait. What exactly is this about? Are you saying I'm not allowed to add an artist's or commissioner's info (from a source) to a post if I'm not its uploader?

Unless "to create information" (that seems pretty vaguely worded) means I'd have to be deliberately pulling things from my ass and making it seem as though it's quoting one of the people involved. Now outlawing that I could understand.

The second part is correct, if you wish to edit the description to match the description on the original upload you're more than welcome to do so. The thing we forbid is writing made up crap to hope and influence the tags or other such nonsense.
If you do edit descriptions be mindful if the uploader is either the artist or the commissioner, you should let them deal with their descriptions in those cases.

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NotMeNotYou said:
The second part is correct, if you wish to edit the description to match the description on the original upload you're more than welcome to do so. The thing we forbid is writing made up crap to hope and influence the tags or other such nonsense.
If you do edit descriptions be mindful if the uploader is either the artist or the commissioner, you should let them deal with their descriptions in those cases.

Thank you! In that case I can safely say I've not been doing anything wrong, and that includes paying attention to the uploader to see if it's perhaps someone with more of a say in things than me. :)

That's a relief.

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NotMeNotYou said:
The second part is correct, if you wish to edit the description to match the description on the original upload you're more than welcome to do so. The thing we forbid is writing made up crap to hope and influence the tags or other such nonsense.
If you do edit descriptions be mindful if the uploader is either the artist or the commissioner, you should let them deal with their descriptions in those cases.

Might I suggest changing it to "making shit up" or "making up non-factual information" or just something a little clearer than "creating information?" While it's currently very PC and intelligently worded not everyone will fully understand what it means, as you've already seen. If it means making sure it's clearer then I'm all for being a bit cruder or less eloquent, and definitely less ambiguous, in wording.

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I'm concerned with this new Code of Conduct system, I understand having smart and respectful people is nice thou, It feels quite restrictive or highly PC. like harassment for example, the person might report that person for saying mean words, while others just seeing criticism. So demanding people to be nice is fine but can be highly limited to freedom of speech.

I can see you want nice and friendly people thou you can get highly authoritarian and out of control on censoring people, simply for offending someone's feelings. This may get a bit SJW if not careful.

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I've only seen them hide truly atrocious comments, and otherwise they just leave a warning or a record, otherwise leaving the comment there. They're pretty respectful of freedoms.

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BW100 said:
I'm concerned with this new Code of Conduct system

The rules have been like this for more than 2 years. You tell us if we're highly authoritarian by now.

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I posted a couple videos that I made somewhat recently, using footage captured from within a game, edited to music. I didn't know that this qualified as "screenshots". Could you clarify that rule so I don't waste my time trying to upload things like those in the future? Maybe add "game captures"?

The videos I made are here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/NontendoSextyFour

Thanks.

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YesOhYes said:
I posted a couple videos that I made somewhat recently, using footage captured from within a game, edited to music. I didn't know that this qualified as "screenshots". Could you clarify that rule so I don't waste my time trying to upload things like those in the future? Maybe add "game captures"?

The videos I made are here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/NontendoSextyFour

Thanks.

If it's screencapture of a video game, whether a still image or a video, it's still a screenshot.

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brightstreak said:
my image was deleted for "low quality picture of drawn image" i do not own a scanner the image looks fine all joking aside
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/18175133/
is there any way i can have this ruling on the image changed?

https://e621.net/wiki/show/uploading_guidelines

Low quality submissions: Highly visible artifacts, scribbles, low-quality photographs of traditional media (invest into a scanner, people!), 1000h in MSPaint images, computer generated mosaics, etc. etc.

https://www.freecycle.org/
https://www.craigslist.org/about/sites
https://www.google.com/maps/search/public+library+near+me/

Note: Scanning a previously photographed image does not guarantee that it will be approved.

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I've read the "Upload Guidelines" and Come across the Bad things to upload.
-Screen captures
And yet, a simple search found a whole page full of them. (320) How are these getting accepted?

As well,
"Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available" seems unfinished, If there is a higher reso of that image....What do we do? Since you can't repost something that was deleted, how do you post a higher reso of that image.

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LordzBacon said:
I've read the "Upload Guidelines" and Come across the Bad things to upload.
-Screen captures
And yet, a simple search found a whole page full of them. (320) How are these getting accepted?

As well,
"Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available" seems unfinished, If there is a higher reso of that image....What do we do? Since you can't repost something that was deleted, how do you post a higher reso of that image.

From what I've seen, changes to the acceptable content policy on e621 generally do not affect uploads made before that policy change, so any screenshots et al that were uploaded ages ago are allowed to remain for the time being

If there is a higher-resolution image on e621, do not post a lower-resolution of the same image

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LordzBacon said:
"Knowingly or repeatedly uploading a lower-resolution image, if there is a higher-resolution of that image available" seems unfinished, If there is a higher reso of that image....What do we do? Since you can't repost something that was deleted, how do you post a higher reso of that image.

If an image was deleted, chances are it's irrelevant to the site or poor quality. In the latter case, take a look at the source of it (If one wasn't linked then don't even worry about it) and see what the quality looks like. If the source's top resolution looks to be a good quality and it simply offered up a thumbnail, then try uploading the full version.

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