Jacob said:

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Right, this seems to be the place to suggest new tags...

So, I've noticed that there are imminent_sex, imminent_rape, and imminent_incest tags that people can add to their search to actively seek (or add a - before it to actively avoid) images where the act is ABOUT to happen, but has not yet started. There are also sex, rape, and incest tags for when you want to find images where the act is presently, obviously happening in the picture. But for after_[act] tags, only after_sex and after_rape exist? Seems a pretty big oversight to not have an after_incest tag so people who specifically want to find (or avoid) images where the incest has already happened, and no new incest has been initiated, such as in this image here. Thoughts?

There's quite a few after_* tags, more than I thought, but after_sex is by far the most tagged one:
https://e621.net/tag?name=after_*

Most of the times after_X also has X tagged as well so after_incest could be found by after_sex incest, which would also catch the image you linked, and could be blacklisted with the same thing..

Jacob said:
...so, I guess that's a no, then?

Apologies, it's the correct thread, but sometimes posts can get ignored. I haven't checked this thread in ages, for example.

I'd suggest joining the E6 discord, instructions on joining are under the "chat" tab in the top bar, for quicker responses, there's a "tagging discussion" channel specifically for things like this.

OneMoreAnonymous said:

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I just stumbled upon the qīngjiǔ tag.

Wouldn't it be advisable to adopt the policy of forbidding the use of Latin characters with diacritics? They very rarely appear in the English language. As it stands, 'qīngjiǔ' uses the Latin alphabet but is still a Chinese term, and most of the world would have no easy way to type either that Latinized form nor the original Chinese one ('清酒'), so why bother with the diacritic-using Latin? Just par it all down to the 26 letters, and resolve collisions by adding the usual parenthetical specifier after the term.

Edit: I realize it could be a simple matter of aliasing both 'qīngjiǔ' to 'qingjiu' (or vice versa, like with 'pokemon' to 'pokémon'), but it seems there are 20 possible diacritic-using forms, and these numbers quickly escalate as you consider words with more Chinese syllables. It would be better to just use 'qingjiu', 'qingjiu_(whatever)' etc. and ban the diacritic-using terms.

The problem with banning diacritic terms is that often they alter the pronunciation, and I presume in some languages would also alter the meaning of the word as well.

It'd also mean banning the correct pokémon, in favour of Pokemon, and mean a lot of tags would need to be re-aliased. Also, if you ban diacritic characters then you'd still need to alias the diacritic version to the non-diacritic version, so would need a similar amount of work.

I think it's far better to alias from non-diacritic to diacritic, then E6 can use the correct spelling whilst allowing it to be easily typed, such as already happens with Pokémon.

Quick edit:
Just wanted to add that there's only one tag at the moment with that, so an alias to it would be fine..

Also, with it being a character tag, if someone's name was spelled with several diacritics it could still be offensive for you to spell it without them. I could be entirely wrong, but doesn't the way you say a word in Chinese alter the word, and often to mean something completely different? Obviously for a language like that the diacritics become even more important so that the meaning of the word is kept.

Pupslut said:
I could be entirely wrong, but doesn't the way you say a word in Chinese alter the word, and often to mean something completely different?

Chinese is a rather tonal language. The way the tone shifts from high to low or low to high can influence the meaning of words. Diacritics don't dictate tone, as far as I know, they just affect the phonetic sound. However, even with diacritics and ignoring tone, it's still an imperfect translation since the English alphabet is limited (and I bet most native English speakers aren't very familiar with diacritics, in America at least, so the exact pronunciation is still lost). If you want a "true" phonetic translation, you'll need to look at the IPA, though that still misses tonal information and even fewer people are familiar with it.

Watsit said:
Chinese is a rather tonal language. The way the tone shifts from high to low or low to high can influence the meaning of words.

Ah, I thought it was something like that, but couldn't quite remember. Thanks for that.

Watsit said:
the English alphabet is limited (and I bet most native English speakers aren't very familiar with diacritics, in America at least, so the exact pronunciation is still lost).

I feel people not understanding it isn't a reason to not use it.

Like if someone says "my name is spelt with an Ø, not an O", then it'd be rude to not spell it correctly, as often the different character would mean a slightly different inflection. Obviously most people would be fine with you using an O, as that character isn't on most English keyboards, but on E6, where aliases are a thing, I don't see a reason to not use the "correct" spelling, and alias the others to it, such as with pokemon/pokémon.

Watsit said:
If you want a "true" phonetic translation, you'll need to look at the IPA, though that still misses tonal information and even fewer people are familiar with it.

I don't have a clue how to pronounce most diacritics, and certainly would be lost with the IPA, at the same time it wouldn't bother me if the site swapped to it.

Hi, a new suggestion:

mental_tentacles: these tentacles are immaterial vectors of a character's will. They may serve to visually represent telekinesis (cf. Elfen Lied ). Dorukolorukalai species is especially prone to manifest these.

Possible candidates: post #49023 post #1956530 post #1007026

Yeah or nay?

Sauvegarde said:
Hi, a new suggestion:

mental_tentacles: these tentacles are immaterial vectors of a character's will. They may serve to visually represent telekinesis (cf. Elfen Lied ). Dorukolorukalai species is especially prone to manifest these.

Possible candidates: post #49023 post #1956530 post #1007026

Yeah or nay?

not really, there is nothing visually indicative in something being a mental ability in origin. The first 2 would fall under translucent_tentacles while the last one is just magic and/or aura

Added, i am rather surprised there is not a tag for translucent arms already yet...

Sauvegarde said:

Hi, a new suggestion:

mental_tentacles: these tentacles are immaterial vectors of a character's will. They may serve to visually represent telekinesis (cf. Elfen Lied ). Dorukolorukalai species is especially prone to manifest these.

Possible candidates: post #49023 post #1956530 post #1007026

Yeah or nay?

Darou said:

not really, there is nothing visually indicative in something being a mental ability in origin. The first 2 would fall under translucent_tentacles while the last one is just magic and/or aura

Added, i am rather surprised there is not a tag for translucent arms already yet...

Although I feel mental_tentacles is too specific and subjective in its wording to use, I think something like ethereal_tentacles could work.

There's already an ethereal_hair tag (and to a lower amount of usage, an ethereal_mane tag) used for 'hair that seems to have a surreal nature, and may be difficult to properly categorize the composition of the hair itself'. A similar version could be made for tentacles that seem to have a surreal composition.

D.D.M. said:
Although I feel mental_tentacles is too specific and subjective in its wording to use, I think something like ethereal_tentacles could work.

There's already an ethereal_hair tag (and to a lower amount of usage, an ethereal_mane tag) used for 'hair that seems to have a surreal nature, and may be difficult to properly categorize the composition of the hair itself'. A similar version could be made for tentacles that seem to have a surreal composition.

How would you define ethereal thou?

"Google definitions"
:e·the·re·al
/əˈTHirēəl/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: ethereal; adjective: etherial

1.
extremely delicate and light in a way that seems too perfect for this world.
"her ethereal beauty"
synonyms: delicate, exquisite, dainty, elegant, graceful, beautiful, lovely; fragile, airy, gossamer, gossamery, light, fine, diaphanous, thin, tenuous, subtle, insubstantial, shadowy...

applying it to surrealism as it is specified in ethereal_hair and ethereal_mane e621 wikis seem just as subjective as the use of "mental".
Adding also that non of the examples given by Sauvegarde are by any means surreal in my opinion.

Darou said:
How would you define ethereal thou?
applying it to surrealism as it is specified in ethereal_hair and ethereal_mane e621 wikis seem just as subjective as the use of "mental".
Adding also that non of the examples given by Sauvegarde are by any means surreal in my opinion.

How would you qualify things like cosmic_hair?

Definition notwithstanding, ethereal makes sense for me. I instinctively associate the word with "magic" and "immaterial", had no idea it was this subjective.

translucent_tentacles is good because it's descriptive.

magic_tentacles would be better because it'd also express their function.

What I want to do here is to distinguish utility tentacles controlled by a character in addition to their normal limbs.

Sauvegarde said:
How would you qualify things like cosmic_hair?

Constellations, stars and planets are something that actually exist and are visually observable (tangible), they do not depend on opinion to see. Might i add that the implication to ethereal hair is frankly not sound as the usage of cosmic hair rarely matches up with the proper definition of ethereal nor the definition specified under the e621 wiki of ethereal_hair.

Definition notwithstanding, ethereal makes sense for me. I instinctively associate the word with "magic" and "immaterial", had no idea it was this subjective.

I didnt say ethereal was subjective, i said surreal was subjective which is what the ethereal tags are serving as substitutes for and i really do not understand why ethereal tags are being used as substitutes because both have completely different meanings.

Darou said:

How would you define ethereal thou?
applying it to surrealism as it is specified in ethereal_hair and ethereal_mane e621 wikis seem just as subjective as the use of "mental".
Adding also that non of the examples given by Sauvegarde are by any means surreal in my opinion.

Sauvegarde said:

How would you qualify things like cosmic_hair?

Definition notwithstanding, ethereal makes sense for me. I instinctively associate the word with "magic" and "immaterial", had no idea it was this subjective.

translucent_tentacles is good because it's descriptive.

magic_tentacles would be better because it'd also express their function.

What I want to do here is to distinguish utility tentacles controlled by a character in addition to their normal limbs.

Darou said:

Constellations, stars and planets are something that actually exist and are visually observable (tangible), they do not depend on opinion to see. Might i add that the implication to ethereal hair is frankly not sound as the usage of cosmic hair rarely matches up with the proper definition of ethereal nor the definition specified under the e621 wiki of ethereal_hair.
I didnt say ethereal was subjective, i said surreal was subjective which is what the ethereal tags are serving as substitutes for and i really do not understand why ethereal tags are being used as substitutes because both have completely different meanings.

Since I wrote the wiki for ethereal_hair, I can let y'all know my reasoning for the description.

TL;DR: ethereal_hair is rather ambiguous overall, so I wrote the description to be an ambiguous catchall for pseudo_hair with an ethereal/surreal appearance.

Also, if you're looking for a tag for tentacles displaying a prehensile trait, there currently isn't one in use (but I can see some use in using a prehensile_tentacles tag sometime in the future).

How about adding an aquatic_split_form tag, as a split_form subtag? Would include creatures such as mermaids, primarina, split form creatures with dolphin or shark tails, some undine (depending on form), etc.

The merfolk tag is quite messy, so adding a tag between that and split_form should be useful in sorting it out.

Alternate name suggestion: marine_split_form, to match the marine tag?

Genjar said:

How about adding an aquatic_split_form tag, as a split_form subtag? Would include creatures such as mermaids, primarina, split form creatures with dolphin or shark tails, some undine (depending on form), etc.

The merfolk tag is quite messy, so adding a tag between that and split_form should be useful in sorting it out.

Alternate name suggestion: marine_split_form, to match the marine tag?

To me, the marine_split_form version would be better since it matches up with marine and helps to more accurately reflect the tag's usage through the phrasing of the tag itself.

Then again, I guess it would depend on whether this new tag is intended to encompass more than just the marine tag.

Wondering if we should have a tag for scp-2547-1. Currently, every single image under SCP-2547 is the -1 variant.

Do you think a pussy_juice_covered tag would be relevant? It would be a female couterpart to cum_covered.

Possible candidates: post #2000940 post #691824 post #386574

I just noticed that pouch has been disambiguated. What tag should be used for the pouches often worn by soldiers? Also, pouches should probably be aliased to pouch_(disambiguation) as well.

I can think of a few possible candidates: pouch_(bag), utility_pouch, pouch_(clothing), pouch_(fabric).

post #1601188 post #1893488

Utility belt pretty much includes pouches by default, so I dunno if it's necessary to tag those separately. I wouldn't object to utility pouch, just seems a bit redundant.

The second one looks like some kind of tactical vest, except that's currently aliased to bulletproof vest. Which is an entirely different type of vest. :/

Genjar said:
Utility belt pretty much includes pouches by default, so I dunno if it's necessary to tag those separately. I wouldn't object to utility pouch, just seems a bit redundant.

Isn't utility_belt just for belts worn around the waist? If so, wouldn't it make more sense for the pouches which are attached elsewhere, such as on arms or legs, be tagged separately?

JAKXXX3 said:
Isn't utility_belt just for belts worn around the waist?

Yep. I just used the examples you posted. Other types of pouch/bag-related gear have their own names. For instance, a large open pouch worn on waist is a dump pouch. Named such because you can easily drop items in it.

utility_pouch would work as a generic tag for any such pouch, regardless of location worn.

There doesn't seem to be an established tag for a bra that with open parts that expose the breast beneath (be it just the nipple/areola or a larger area).

post #1892119 post #1743641 post #2011516 post #1135514 post #963146

There are a couple of attempts like nipple_cutout or nipple_window which seem intuitive but don't necessarily imply lingerie.
Is there an "official" term for those? Google spits out open_nipple_bra or peephole_bra - I prefer the later.

There is also nursing_bra but those are usually more practical and less sexy (and the hole is often covered with a flap).

HansPorn said:
There doesn't seem to be an established tag for a bra that with open parts that expose the breast beneath (be it just the nipple/areola or a larger area).

not listed in the lingerie wiki afaict.
ineffective_clothing works but nothing specific at a first glance. irl, open_nipple_bra seems to be the term for it

thoughts on a "tagme" like tag for character sex tags? might help with mistags and untagged posts.

like I'm assuming this post got skipped because it was a clothed character and too close between ambiguous and male girly
post #2022481

tbh I'd rather defer to someone in those cases too and with ambiguous feral stuff.

sneezer22 said:
thoughts on a "tagme" like tag for character sex tags? might help with mistags and untagged posts.

like I'm assuming this post got skipped because it was a clothed character and too close between ambiguous and male girly
post #2022481

I don't think you can be "close to ambiguous". Ambiguous isn't its own gender/sex, it's what you use if you can't otherwise say for sure it's male, female, or some form of intersex. IMO, if you can't tell when tagging a post, give it ambiguous_gender and anyone else can change it if they can make a better determination.

Maybe some kind of gender_request tag if you really want a way to draw attention to something that should be known to be male/female/intersex and you yourself can't tag it for some reason, though I'd say it still should have ambiguous_gender even with that (a solo character should not have both female and gender_request, for instance). But then I fear it would be a tag left on a bunch of posts because no one can say it's male/female/intersex, but no one wants to remove the request tag either just in case someone else might.

sneezer22 said:
thoughts on a "tagme" like tag for character sex tags? might help with mistags and untagged posts.

like I'm assuming this post got skipped because it was a clothed character and too close between ambiguous and male girly
post #2022481

tbh I'd rather defer to someone in those cases too and with ambiguous feral stuff.

Some people refuse to tag gender when they don't agree with our TWYS system. To be fair, the rules only say that you have to add at least four unimplicated tags, so as long as they aren't removing the gender tags they aren't breaking any rules. Just add the tags as you come across those images.

what do people think of the idea of having some sort of a data_fauna/living_program/code_elemental tag for characters like this?:
post #874908

darryus said:
what do people think of the idea of having some sort of a data_fauna/living_program/code_elemental tag for characters like this?:
post #874908

digital_creature tag exists, although it's severely undertagged.

bitwolfy said:
digital_creature tag exists, although it's severely undertagged.

yeah, that's probably the tag I'm looking for.

^{man, now I'm kinda sad since I was starting to really like "data_fauna" over the last hour or so of trying to figure out if a tag already existed}

Looks to me like we're missing a "4 nipples on each boob" tag, udder_breasts comes close but the wiki definition does not imply 4 nipples per breast
Examples:
post #228315 post #2341557 but NOT post #1755289
4_nipples is not it either

Hello all!
I took the liberty to add the felling_axe tag which the axe page suggested. I think it's a distinct enough object to have its own tag.
Cheers!

Edit: I see someone applied felling_axe to a lot of posts. Glad to see!

I don't know what the guidelines for inventing a tag are, but I've been thinking about making a snout_in_mouth tag for post #2498998. Thoughts?
Also, notice how licking falsely implicates tongue_out in this case. Looks like someone is beating the system there. Sly dogs.

I’d like to propose an Overflowing_urine tag, to mirror the overflowing cum tag. Used wherever urine is being produced in a quantity to overwhelm its desired receptacle. I’ll try to find a few examples and post them here

Here are good examples I found. https://e621.net/posts/1740892?q=Urine+tumblr https://e621.net/posts/2524804?q=Urine+degradation https://e621.net/posts/2549824?q=excessive_urine Sorry, I’m terrible at this writing format, I don’t know how to use photos instead of links

For direct links, you can change https://e621.net/posts/1740892?q=Urine+tumblr to post #1740892, getting rid of everything but the number and putting post # before it. This results in the link: post #1740892.
For thumbnails, replace post #1740892 with thumb #1740892:
post #1740892

Aside from the post # link you can also have an inline link: Take the /posts/1740892 and add it after a quote and colon: "example link":/posts/1740892 becomes example link
Inline links still gain the hyperlink coloration, but won't force a redirect between e926 and e621--and unlike full links won't display a big box right beside it.

furrin_gok said:
For direct links, you can change https://e621.net/posts/1740892?q=Urine+tumblr to post #1740892, getting rid of everything but the number and putting post # before it. This results in the link: post #1740892.
For thumbnails, replace post #1740892 with thumb #1740892:
post #1740892

Aside from the post # link you can also have an inline link: Take the /posts/1740892 and add it after a quote and colon: "example link":/posts/1740892 becomes example link
Inline links still gain the hyperlink coloration, but won't force a redirect between e926 and e621--and unlike full links won't display a big box right beside it.

Thank you for your help. I hope people find the tag idea worthwhile