Topic: Questions on censored genitals and "close enough" uncensored edits

Posted under Art Talk

When it comes to hentai art, which is infamous for its censored genitals, what happenens to the censored versions when an official uncensored version is posted.

Also, what happens to the "this isn't the official uncensored version, but this is close enough as we can get" edits? Say, there are no known uncensored versions, even at the deep web, but someone just edited it to be close enough?

I was referring to this edit of post #1339230. I'm not sure if there is an official uncensored version of it, given it's from 2010, but I would say this uncensored version is lovingly rendered.

alexyorim said:
When it comes to hentai art, which is infamous for its censored genitals, what happenens to the censored versions when an official uncensored version is posted.

If it's just uncensored and otherwise the same (no extra/missing bits in the image, same resolution, no heavier compression, etc), I imagine the censored one would be deleted as inferior. Although this would only apply to blatantly and barely censored images like
post #2692222
If an official uncensored version were to be posted that's not of lesser quality, I don't see why that one wouldn't be deleted. However, if it's something like completely missing genitals being added:
post #2705776 -> post #2709575
they're different enough to keep both.

alexyorim said:
Also, what happens to the "this isn't the official uncensored version, but this is close enough as we can get" edits?

Third-party edits never result in the original being deleted. If the edit it good enough (and the artist isn't CDNP for no edits), the edit can stay, but the original image that the edit is made from stays regardless.

Oh this thread is convenient, I was just wondering how often 3rd-party edits are accepted after doing one(unposted) the other day.
Specifically post #2849201, since it's unclear whether the artist meant "*I* can't post uncensored because I'm japanese and paranoid" or "I have a hidden version behind a paywall" or "no one can post uncensored versions ever".

ijerk said:
Specifically post #2849201, since it's unclear whether the artist meant "*I* can't post uncensored because I'm japanese and paranoid" or "I have a hidden version behind a paywall" or "no one can post uncensored versions ever".

They clarify a bit here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42990063/
From what I understand, the art is first posted to fanbox for paying fans/patrons, and then publicly. However, fanbox requires posts to be censored. The artist feels it's unfair for those paying to get a censored version and for an uncensored version to be posted publicly for free.

I also recall hearing about some site (skeb? fanbox?) saying whatever artists put up must be censored, and they're not allowed to post uncensored versions elsewhere for people to be led to, or else they'll get kicked off the site.

watsit said:
They clarify a bit here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42990063/
From what I understand, the art is first posted to fanbox for paying fans/patrons, and then publicly. However, fanbox requires posts to be censored. The artist feels it's unfair for those paying to get a censored version and for an uncensored version to be posted publicly for free.

Huh, well, ethically that's a weird one I'm not sure what to make of. I'll probably just settle for sharing it through private-ish channels rather than on e6 directly unless there's some kind of higher ruling on the matter.

We do accept edits, but they have to go by the guidelines, meaning that they have to be at least similar quality to source material and stuff like AI edits are not acceptable. Additionally edits should NEVER have the original copies removed on the site, no matter how great and close to original the edit it, it's still going to have slight subjective changes to it and degrade the original in some manner. This is also why stuffs like AI upscales are not acceptable, because the likelyhood of original being removed accidentally in favor of upscale is high and anyone wanting to make better upscale themselves is shit out of luck.

If official uncensored version does come up, correct procedure is to upload that and flag the edit for deletion as inferior version. Edits still aren't the main focus of this website, so we generally deem edits of stuff we already have to be inferior, stuff like color edits are also generally removed if artist themselves colors their own works later on.

In cases where uncensored edit is lower quality to original, it can be subject to deletion and if it's official uncensored version that's lower quality, we can keep both it and the censored version as neither count as superior version to another. If both official censored and uncensored works are of identical file quality, if the censor is simple mosaic or bar, it's generally deemed to be inferior quality as that's just objective way of censoring things, rather than artistic one. Stuff like convinient censorship can be seen as additional content at which point censored version can also be kept.

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