The bulk update request #4786 is pending approval.

remove alias goo (0) -> goo_(disambiguation) (10)
change category goo (0) -> general
change category slime_(disambiguation) (0) -> invalid # missing
remove alias snail_slime (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias mucus (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias snail_mucus (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias goo_inflation (0) -> slime_inflation (466)
remove alias slimy (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias slimey (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias gooey (0) -> slime (17208)
remove alias slime_covered (0) -> slime (17208)

Reason: topic #38472

This was an issue long-overdue, I wanted to make this BUR since I first started using e6, so long before creating an account.

In terms of consistency, goo and mucus are completely different and incompatible, putting them both under the same tag will not only lead to breaches to the code of conduct regarding the blacklist (because folks may like snail slime, but not goo or they may like goo, but not snail slime), but it makes harder to search for what somebody wants, so I started using goo_creature instead because slime was not a good tag to use in a search query. To make this better for everybody it would be best to unalias goo from goo_(disambiguation)

My guess as to why goo was initially aliased to goo_(disambiguation) was because goo is a species tag and it was meat to be the predecessor to goo_creature, but due to the very generic nature of the tag it was likely mistagged often. Given that, it makes sense it was aliased away to make place for goo_creature. The intention in this bur is to make goo into a general tag that would go only for posts that feature gelatinous semi-solids or hot melting glue like substances. I would then implicate goo_creature to goo.

Slime is a horrible tag that gets tagged on everything involving gelatin and viscous liquids. If somebody likes gelatin and gelatinous-like compounds, but hate snail slime and mucus because they find that gross, they cannot blacklist those terms because they have all been aliased to slime.

Keeping in mind all these posts under are all tagged slime, the ones of the left are the ones I would like to search for and the ones of the ones on the right are the ones that perfectly exemplify the problem of slime as a tag because those ones will show up in my search too.

post #4045586 <-|-> post #4045375
post #4050059 <-|-> post #4052216
post #4043723 <-|-> post #4042790
post #4043124 <-|-> post #4032242
post #4043037 <-|-> post #3916402
post #4040350 <-|-> post #3939916
post #4039631 <-|-> post #4045865
post #4038598 <-|-> post #4012688
post #4038738 <-|-> post #4024415
post #3959970 <-|-> post #4023799

Because Slime describes equally gelatin-like goo and viscous liquids, posts tagged cum and cum_creature have began to colonize the tag because semen is a viscous liquid. I dont know for you but it is technically correct, admins.

Slime is useless at best and actively detracts from what Im looking for at worst which is why I am setting up its disamiguation tag. I ain't gonna put it to the butcher just yet because it could still potentially be useful, but I doubt it. I would like to hear the inputs from the other forum-goers first to see if there is a way to fix slime. what do you think of 'slime'?

Who is actually going to be able to dedicate the time to disambiguating 12,530 posts? That's more than twice all the current existing ambiguous tags.

faucet said:
Who is actually going to be able to dedicate the time to disambiguating 12,530 posts? That's more than twice all the current existing ambiguous tags.

An admin can run the nuke command I reckon. This is what happens when some folk alias random tags to one single tag and then more folks add even more tags by loose association (e.g:cum) to said single tag. It's a mess of random tags, so this number isn't all that surprising.

Wouldn't the problem be made simpler by just doing slime_(species) as a species tag and slime_(substance) for a general tag? Slimes are a species so the tag shouldn't be gotten rid of as it's a valid tag. Goo I wouldn't use to describe a creature at all. I'd use it for a substance really. Like the gooey center of a candy bar. Idk it seems like a lot of these are overthought and end up just being reversed later anyway.

sexygaydragon said:
Goo I wouldn't use to describe a creature at all.

That is why I am actually changed the tag category from species to general. I wanna use goo as a general tag to describe the substance.

Slime_(species) already exists as goo_creature and slime_(substance) still results into the same problem. It is still a useless catch-all tag that would have cum tagged on it occasionally and that will most probably have snail_slime and mucus aliased to it.

wolfmanfur said:
That is why I am actually changed the tag category from species to general. I wanna use goo as a general tag to describe the substance.

Slime_(species) already exists as goo_creature and slime_(substance) still results into the same problem. It is still a useless catch-all tag that would have cum tagged on it occasionally and that will most probably have snail_slime and mucus aliased to it.

Goo presents a worse problem cause they aren't goo creatures. Slimes aren't goo. Goo doesn't work in any of this context whereas slime actually does. I don't see the problem here because all of that is slime. This seems very pointless to do like a lot of these are. Your problem would be solved by putting slime_(substance) -slime_(species) in a blacklist. Get rid of goo_creature cause that tag is useless as none of them are goo. You are overthinking it.

sexygaydragon said:
Goo presents a worse problem cause they aren't goo creatures. Slimes aren't goo. Goo doesn't work in any of this context whereas slime actually does. I don't see the problem here because all of that is slime. This seems very pointless to do like a lot of these are. Your problem would be solved by putting slime_(substance) -slime_(species) in a blacklist. Get rid of goo_creature cause that tag is useless as none of them are goo. You are overthinking it.

Oh they sure are, by the site's definition they are made of goo. Goo_creatures are made of goo. I don't know how you would define goo, but your definition is not the same as e6's.

What you're suggesting to blacklist is unhelpful. The problem is that gelatnous slime and viscous mucus slime are both under the tag slime which for searching is unhelpful. Putting all the gelatin under goo and then putting the rest of slime under viscous_liquid would be better both for searching and for blacklisting.

Take for example this post
post #4043037
It is goo, it isn't mucus, it isn't snail slime and it isn't alive, so it can't be tagged goo_creature. I just wanna find this post, but none of the snail_slime mucus nonsense that is all aliased to slime, I don't even wanna see cum, although at least I can remove that from my search if I need to.

wolfmanfur said:
Oh they sure are, by the site's definition they are made of goo. Goo_creatures are made of goo. I don't know how you would define goo, but your definition is not the same as e6's.

What you're suggesting to blacklist is unhelpful. The problem is that gelatnous slime and viscous mucus slime are both under the tag slime which for searching is unhelpful. Putting all the gelatin under goo and then putting the rest of slime under viscous_liquid would be better both for searching and for blacklisting.

Take for example this post
post #4043037
It is goo, it isn't mucus, it isn't snail slime and it isn't alive, so it can't be tagged goo_creature. I just wanna find this post, but none of the snail_slime mucus nonsense that is all aliased to slime, I don't even wanna see cum, although at least I can remove that from my search if I need to.

The site's definitions tend to be incredibly wrong like with this. Goo and slime are not the same thing. I wanna look up slimes but I get nothing cause it's incorrectly labeled goo creature. I want a slime. A living gelatinous blob not an unliving puddle of goop. Also I like to see Goodras slimy but again can't do so cause of this site's faulty tagging system (based on what you are saying Goodras aren't slimy they are gooey which is incorrect) and people like you making unneeded changes to tags and adding unnecessary tags. What you propose makes the problem even worse. I hate having to add multiple things for one thing to my blacklist just to be sure I got it blocked. I can't do that when there's multiple tags for one single thing. Why you people have to make a simple thing so unnecessarily complicated is beyond me. You keep saying slime is useless but then go on to describe types of slime yet not a thing for goo. Also I want to point out that you suggested the same damn thing I did. How would wording it like you did make it any better? My way is at least accurate. Slimes are not goo at all. That's incorrect labeling.

sexygaydragon said:
The site's definitions tend to be incredibly wrong like with this. Goo and slime are not the same thing. I wanna look up slimes but I get nothing cause it's incorrectly labeled goo creature. I want a slime. A living gelatinous blob not an unliving puddle of goop.

I don't think like you do and can't really understand your thought process, but don't you think that adhering to rules and definitions you've set for yourself a little bit tiring? This site has the definitions switched up, fine, as long as it works. How about you start searching for goo_creature when you wanna see that sort of thing?

Further, slime as a tag does more harm than good for folks who wanna see a specific thing, this is something I have to reiterate, but multiple tags are aliased top it thus they cannot be blacklisted and because goo is aliased to goo_disambiguation, these posts go tagged under slime too, which to my understnding you don't wanna see. Why are you opposing this, then?

Also I like to see Goodras slimy but again can't do so cause of this site's faulty tagging system (based on what you are saying Goodras aren't slimy they are gooey which is incorrect) and people like you making unneeded changes to tags and adding unnecessary tags.

All Goodra posts are under slime because of snail_slime, and I would not put them under goo either I would put them under viscous_liquid. When I am searching slime, I don't wanna look at snail_slime and mucus. By splitting the tag, this helps fine tune searches.

Additionally, it gets tagged easily because irl slime means viscous liquid, not 'dungeon slime', not gelatin, a viscous liquid and there are plenty of those, for example semen and saliva, despite not being aliased to this tag would make sense to be.

Somehow, fixing the way a tag works is wrong to you. You said it yourself "Also I like to see Goodras slimy but again can't do so cause of this site's faulty tagging system". So, you are making it worse for yourself. You will forever have thick gelatnous glue in your Goodra searches whenever you look up "slime" because while you're annoying by that, you also don't want splitting hair to fix the problem that's causing it: the fact that everything is aliased to slime.

What you propose makes the problem even worse. I hate having to add multiple things for one thing to my blacklist just to be sure I got it blocked. I can't do that when there's multiple tags for one single thing. Why you people have to make a simple thing so unnecessarily complicated is beyond me.

This site needs to be utilitarian to a degree. Tags that are literally, not figuratively, not hyperbolic about it either, useless because they mean everything are useless.

And while you complain that you will have to update your blacklist because there would be more tags to hide, meanwhile I can't even remove snail_slime and mucus from any of my searches when I'm not looking for that and I would bet folks who don't wanna see it cannot blacklist it either. So, meanwhile you would have to update your blacklist after this bur (hypothetically) passes, nobody can blacklist the damn thing in the first place because they'd catch posts that they don't wanna blacklist also.

You keep saying slime is useless but then go on to describe types of slime yet not a thing for goo. Also I want to point out that you suggested the same damn thing I did. How would wording it like you did make it any better? My way is at least accurate. Slimes are not goo at all. That's incorrect labeling.

Do you wanna me to drop a dictionary and list every definition of slime? There are at least a dozens.

Oh I will, right there.

All of the above make it so slime is a catch-all tags which to my knowledge has gotten tags invalidated before. See skin, stall, this and any name tag like say 'Matthew'

With goo, there is goo_creature that sets the standard, so posts like the ones above and this below can be searched.
post #1391630

wolfmanfur said:
I don't think like you do and can't really understand your thought process, but don't you think that adhering to rules and definitions you've set for yourself a little bit tiring? This site has the definitions switched up, fine, as long as it works. How about you start searching for goo_creature when you wanna see that sort of thing?

Further, slime as a tag does more harm than good for folks who wanna see a specific thing, this is something I have to reiterate, but multiple tags are aliased top it thus they cannot be blacklisted and because goo is aliased to goo_disambiguation, these posts go tagged under slime too, which to my understnding you don't wanna see. Why are you opposing this, then?

All Goodra posts are under slime because of snail_slime, and I would not put them under goo either I would put them under viscous_liquid. When I am searching slime, I don't wanna look at snail_slime and mucus. By splitting the tag, this helps fine tune searches.

Additionally, it gets tagged easily because irl slime means viscous liquid, not 'dungeon slime', not gelatin, a viscous liquid and there are plenty of those, for example semen and saliva, despite not being aliased to this tag would make sense to be.

Somehow, fixing the way a tag works is wrong to you. You said it yourself "Also I like to see Goodras slimy but again can't do so cause of this site's faulty tagging system". So, you are making it worse for yourself. You will forever have thick gelatnous glue in your Goodra searches whenever you look up "slime" because while you're annoying by that, you also don't want splitting hair to fix the problem that's causing it: the fact that everything is aliased to slime.

This site needs to be utilitarian to a degree. Tags that are literally, not figuratively, not hyperbolic about it either, useless because they mean everything are useless.

And while you complain that you will have to update your blacklist because there would be more tags to hide, meanwhile I can't even remove snail_slime and mucus from any of my searches when I'm not looking for that and I would bet folks who don't wanna see it cannot blacklist it either. So, meanwhile you would have to update your blacklist after this bur (hypothetically) passes, nobody can blacklist the damn thing in the first place because they'd catch posts that they don't wanna blacklist also.

Do you wanna me to drop a dictionary and list every definition of slime? There are at least a dozens.

Oh I will, right there.

• Any viscous liquid.
• Semen
• Mucus
• Saliva
• Any gelatin-like semi-solids like hot melting glue.
• Most slippery substances.
• Any gross substance.
• A disgusting person
• A gelatinous creature common in rpgs.

All of the above make it so slime is a catch-all tags which to my knowledge has gotten tags invalidated before. See skin, stall, this and any name tag like say 'Matthew'

With goo, there is goo_creature that sets the standard, so posts like the ones above and this below can be searched.
post #1391630

Yeah you are unreasonable. Melting hot glue would be goo not slime. I don't know where you are getting your definitions from. Goo would be like a roasted marshmallow dry and soft. Slime would be gelatinous and wet. Your way would cause far more problems than fix just cause you can't figure out you can omit terms from a search. I haven't seen a single post with cum in it that was tagged with slime without having a slime in it. Those first three examples aren't even slime. In fact only the last one was correct. What I meant was when I search for slimes using goo creature I get piles of goop not actual slimes.

I'm opposed cause it's the goo tag that is wrong and needs to leave not slime. Slime is far more accurate than goo. Slime_(species) and slime_(substance) would actually work. I'm not replying anymore cause this is going nowhere. I've said my piece and I'm done. BTW the definitions I use are what every other website would use.

at the very least mucus really shouldn't be aliased away, visible mucus on a character is probably going to be identifiable over the more ambiguous slime tag.

I'm not really sure I know how I'd differentiate between other kinds of slime, tho. to me the diffrence between like jelly, goo, and slime is pretty much just viscosity, with jelly being almost-solid, goo being more of a loose blob, and slime being a slick liquid _{(a sliquid)} that's mostly free-flowing. all that would be pretty hard to tag properly in still images.

sexygaydragon said:
Yeah you are unreasonable. Melting hot glue would be goo not slime.

That is what I've been arguing about since the very beginning, every example showed gelatinous/hot melting glue slimes that should have been tagged goo instead. Here's another of those.
post #3595697

I don't know where you are getting your definitions from. Goo would be like a roasted marshmallow dry and soft. Slime would be gelatinous and wet.

That is how e6 define the terms because goo_creature already sets the standard. Also, again, opposing this bur which wouldn't finalize it and would simply be splitting hair will guarantee that those roasted dry and soft marshmallow, as you put it, are all put under slime which you wouldn't want. You are not doing yourself any service by opposing this bur specificaly.

Your way would cause far more problems than fix just cause you can't figure out you can omit terms from a search.

For the third or fourth time, you cannot omit mucus and snail_slime from search because they are both aliased to slime. just look slime -mucus

I haven't seen a single post with cum in it that was tagged with slime without having a slime in it.

A simple search does give me a few examples to use here.
post #4003561
post #4046233
post #3964196
First page btw. There are probably other examples if we dig further.

Those first three examples aren't even slime. In fact only the last one was correct.

So, this begs the question again, why are you opposing this bur? All these posts are tagged under slime, yes all of them, because mucus and snail_slime are aliased to slime.

What I meant was when I search for slimes using goo creature I get piles of goop not actual slimes.

And how do you think these piles of goop do when they go under slime? As I said earlier "because goo is aliased to goo_disambiguation, these posts go tagged under slime too, which to my understnding you don't wanna see."

I'm opposed cause it's the goo tag that is wrong and needs to leave not slime. Slime is far more accurate than goo. Slime_(species) and slime_(substance) would actually work. I'm not replying anymore cause this is going nowhere. I've said my piece and I'm done.

Ok then.

BTW the definitions I use are what every other website would use.

That is wrong, go to any online dictionary and there's a guaraneed you will find the definition for slime describing a viscous substance. Dungeon slimes aren't the only type of slime