The tag implication #51497 protogen -> cyborg has been rejected.

Reason: Protogens are canonically cyborgs, so the 'protogen' tag ought to be implicated to 'cyborg' rather than the current too-broad tag of 'machine.'

EDIT: The tag implication protogen -> cyborg (forum #373496) has been rejected by @slyroon.

this has already been suggested and rejected once in topic #28667.

also, "canon" doesn't matter for species, a protogen would need to look like a cyborg in order to get tagged as one.

Extra trolling would be primagen -> protogen? Yeah, this is like the recent request to make fluffy ponies all equids. But some are not horse-based. :/

And yes, even primagens wouldn't automatically be robots by that logic...

alphamule said:
Extra trolling would be primagen -> protogen? Yeah, this is like the recent request to make fluffy ponies all equids. But some are not horse-based. :/

And yes, even primagens wouldn't automatically be robots by that logic...

I didn't even realize primagen was a thing.

...I'm just randomly thinking about this because of an implication thread bringing up protogen, but should we have closed_species as a copytag or metatag and have it implied from closed species like protogen? maybe I'm the only person bothered enough by the concept to want to blacklist it.

sipothac said:
...I'm just randomly thinking about this because of an implication thread bringing up protogen, but should we have closed_species as a copytag or metatag and have it implied from closed species like protogen? maybe I'm the only person bothered enough by the concept to want to blacklist it.

Considering the number of protogen OCs I see pop up, I don't think it can be classified as a closed species. The creator may say it's a closed species and may not like others creating protogen OCs, but if they don't have legal ownership of the species, they're no different from any other fictional species. "Closed species" often comes across to me as "Original Character Do Not Steal" for species.

Protogens aren't and never were a closed species, they're what's called an "open species" where the creator allows anybody to make one. Primagens however are a "closed species" where the creator doesn't want people making them. (but of course that's really just the honor system)

Usually protogens have some obviously non-organic bodyparts, but it's not unheard of them to only have screen_face, which I wouldn't consider an "obviously non-organic bodypart".
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cloudpie said:
Protogens aren't and never were a closed species, they're what's called an "open species" where the creator allows anybody to make one. Primagens however are a "closed species" where the creator doesn't want people making them. (but of course that's really just the honor system)

Not even sure it's out of 'honor'. I saw one site and... it resembled a gacha game. No, no, 1000 times, hell fucking no @ the very concept.

Related: Tagging project to clean up instances where synths look like cyborgs or androids.
https://tagme.dev/projects/thissynthasynth

The tag implication protogen -> cyborg (forum #373496) has been rejected by @slyroon.