The tag implication #54825 parka -> coat has been approved.

Reason: A parka is a type of thick coat with a hood, usually fur-lined

EDIT: The tag implication parka -> coat (forum #391063) has been approved by @slyroon.

Relatedly, this may be a hot take but I don't think lab_coat should imply coat. It's more of a smock. Thoughts?

Watsit will get real pissy the moment they see this bur just like they did last time almost a year ago.

wolfmanfur said:
Watsit will get real pissy the moment they see this bur just like they did last time almost a year ago.

Sorry to Watsit if they already made a BUR with this, I searched but couldn't find anything :P

cloudpie said:
Sorry to Watsit if they already made a BUR with this, I searched but couldn't find anything :P

Were you under a rock last year? There was these long discussions
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38590
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38084 In this case aliasing to winter_fur would 've been better, but I digress.

I ain't against this bur, but I'm looking for a compromise becourse it's not gonna pass and if it does it could always get unimplied the next day.

wolfmanfur said:
Watsit will get real pissy the moment they see this bur just like they did last time almost a year ago.

are you talking about the BURs where you were trying to invalidate coat entirely?

sipothac said:
are you talking about the BURs where you were trying to invalidate coat entirely?

https://e621.net/forum_topics/38590
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38084

wolfmanfur said:
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38590
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38084

My issues were with fur_coat and winter_coat being easily misinterpreted for an animal's pelt, and the extra fur/feathers grown in winter, respectively. "Coat" on its own, while potentially ambiguous, I'm not sure would be as prone to mistagging or misinterpretation (especially since it already implicates topwear).

watsit said:
My issues were with fur_coat and winter_coat being easily misinterpreted for an animal's pelt, and the extra fur/feathers grown in winter, respectively. "Coat" on its own, while potentially ambiguous, I'm not sure would be as prone to mistagging or misinterpretation (especially since it already implicates topwear).

They're also used as names for clothing pieces, like fleece, like everything else that's been discussed before really https://www.fursource.com/fur-coats-c-85_91.html

Further, you were arguing that we should use "jacket" to describe coats, the garment due to its name being shared with the pelt of an animal.

watsit said:
Color and thickness can be clues.

That doesn't help for people trying to use winter_coat thinking it's for an animal's pelt. I would suggest disambiguating/aliasing coat tags and using either jacket or pelt. winter_jacket and winter_pelt are much clearer.

This was your idea that Sipothac is now blaming me for.

wolfmanfur said:
Further, you were arguing that we should use "jacket" to describe coats, the garment due to its name being shared with the pelt of an animal.

Ideally yes, consistently using jacket for the garment and pelt for an animal's fur would be best. But that led into an argument about how exactly coats and jackets differ. In either case, my primary issues in those threads were fur_coat and winter_coat being easily mistaken, "coat" on its own is less likely to be an issue (but could be changed with the other more ambiguous *_coat tags for consistency).

wolfmanfur said:
Were you under a rock last year? There was these long discussions

You do realize not everyone hangs on the forums 24/7, I hope. There's no need to be rude just because someone doesn't know about some specific discussion from a year ago.

wolfmanfur said:
Watsit will get real pissy the moment they see this bur just like they did last time almost a year ago.

wolfmanfur said:
Were you under a rock last year?

wolfmanfur said:
This was your idea that Sipothac is now blaming me for.

Could you maybe calm down a little dude? Tagging isn't a personal battle..

calydor said:
You do realize not everyone hangs on the forums 24/7, I hope. There's no need to be rude just because someone doesn't know about some specific discussion from a year ago.

honestly, even as someone who kinda does spend a lot more time on these forums that I probably ought to, some topics just seem so out of my wheelhouse or so mundane that I just don't click on the threads. I can't imagine seeing a topic labled something about coats or fashion or the like and thinking I have any valuable input, especially not when the topic has several dozen replies.

The tag implication parka -> coat (forum #391063) has been approved by @slyroon.