SteelWings said:
Depression is how you know your alive.

i'd love to feel anything besides the rage within me.

You are not alone.

Relateable :.(

Clinical depression often goes undiagnosed.
Mental illness is treated with disgust and ostracization instead of providing help, leading those who suffer to turtle up and avoid society's cruel embrace, worsening the depression and isolation.

The simple fact is that we are often depressed because we, humanity, have built a world we don't really want to live in.

Morp said:
The simple fact is that we are often depressed because we, humanity^{(correction: civilization circa 10000 years ago onward (as in not all of the human genus' 3000000+-year existence))}, have built a world we don't really want to live in.

Boredom is the reality of domestication.

RainbowBunBun said:
You are not alone.

I know you mean this to be reassuring, but it's a bit off-putting to read when I'm lying naked in bed at 3:41 in the morning (though being awake at 3:41 in the morning probably ain't helping my mental state much either) (also some people just prefer to be left alone most of the time)

SteelWings said:
Depression is how you know your alive.

Then why do I feel like the walking dead?

LegoTheDraolf said:
i'd love to feel anything besides the rage within me.

That too!

SteelWings said:
Depression is how you know your alive.

Funny enough, I feel Emptier without depression.

CrankyCat said:
Also, stop looking at internet porn all day.

I concur.

LegoTheDraolf said:
i'd love to feel anything besides the rage within me.

Too true, unfortunately.

But what if you are depressed because you feel empty?

SteelWings said:
Depression is how you know your alive.

Don't see why this got downvoted. I was depressed before, and one thing I've learned from being depressed was to enjoy all the good things you have in life and to be grateful for my family and for the life that I got.

That’s not only a very insightful description, but also a very interesting creature. I can’t tell if he’s a Bear, Cat, Canine, or hybrid. It’s very unique.

Porn sites confuse me sometimes...

LegoTheDraolf said:
i'd love to feel anything besides the rage within me.

"I'd rather feel rage that nothing at all" comes to mind.

CrankyCat said:
Also, stop looking at internet porn all day.

Nah, silly/funny porn sustains me!

Morp said:
Clinical depression often goes undiagnosed.
Mental illness is treated with disgust and ostracization instead of providing help, leading those who suffer to turtle up and avoid society's cruel embrace, worsening the depression and isolation.

The simple fact is that we are often depressed because we, humanity, have built a world we don't really want to live in.

I think it's unfair to count clinical depression up there with the rest of varying mental illnesses and psychological defects. You aren't ostracized because you're depressed and the reality is that most people don't know you even are depressed. People in general aren't made outcast for being depressed, the reality is that they isolate themselves Because they are depressed and then blame everyone else for not giving a damn. Well yeah they don't give a damn, why would they? Why should they. You're nobody to the majority of society, everyone is. That's the reality of it and its not a harsh one. If you have clinical depression what you need to do is stop feeling sorry for yourself and find your best days to work on improving yourself and the life you have, taking it one step at a time. You can get out there and find like-minded people and even talk to others (such as myself) that suffer from depression or ARE sympathetic to the condition. But if you just sit at home and think the world hates you because you're depressed you're just going to feel that way all you're life and wonder why you're contemplating suicide. Truth is depression can be cured, at least mostly, you'll always have your days.. where it's hard and all you want to do is roll over and feel like shit but you have to deny that feeling and remember that it could all be better if you want to make it better for yourself. And your first step is to not expect people to care, its a selfish mentality first of all and selfishness is only another key to doors of unhappiness and loneliness. Instead go out there and find people, make some friends that Do care and focus on Their feelings for you, not the mass public. Because the mass public, they shouldn't matter to You either.

LunaDarklight said:
I think it's unfair to count clinical depression up there with the rest of varying mental illnesses and psychological defects. You aren't ostracized because you're depressed and the reality is that most people don't know you even are depressed. People in general aren't made outcast for being depressed, the reality is that they isolate themselves Because they are depressed and then blame everyone else for not giving a damn. Well yeah they don't give a damn, why would they? Why should they. You're nobody to the majority of society, everyone is. That's the reality of it and its not a harsh one. If you have clinical depression what you need to do is stop feeling sorry for yourself and find your best days to work on improving yourself and the life you have, taking it one step at a time. You can get out there and find like-minded people and even talk to others (such as myself) that suffer from depression or ARE sympathetic to the condition. But if you just sit at home and think the world hates you because you're depressed you're just going to feel that way all you're life and wonder why you're contemplating suicide. Truth is depression can be cured, at least mostly, you'll always have your days.. where it's hard and all you want to do is roll over and feel like shit but you have to deny that feeling and remember that it could all be better if you want to make it better for yourself. A
nd your first step is to not expect people to care, its a selfish mentality first of all and selfishness is only another key to doors of unhappiness and loneliness. Instead go out there and find people, make some friends that Do care and focus on Their feelings for you, not the mass public. Because the mass public, they shouldn't matter to You either.

It's not that simple. What you're talking about is much easier said than done. The truth is psychology as a whole is a new science and everyone pretends to know a lot about it, but even the top researchers don't know as much as you'd think. That said. While I applaud you for taking the time to type that out. I don't think this is the best place to be posting this kind of personal opinion. It comes off a bit like you haven't ever really been through depression.

When I feel like nothing in life matters, I take comfort in that because that means none of my mistakes or problems really matter. If you dont have anything to be sad about, shouldnt that make you happy? Usually there is no clear reason why I get depressed, but I use this philosophy to push through each day like its a nice walk. If truly nothing matters, what have I got to lose?

The best thing about an empty container, is that you can fill it with whatever you want. weather it be unbridling wrath, insatiable lust, plain old clutter, or an unrelenting love for something all you gotta do is fill yourself.

I mean that emotionally but if your into the other that works to I guess

Frozenwaffelz said:
When I feel like nothing in life matters, I take comfort in that because that means none of my mistakes or problems really matter. If you dont have anything to be sad about, shouldnt that make you happy? Usually there is no clear reason why I get depressed, but I use this philosophy to push through each day like its a nice walk. If truly nothing matters, what have I got to lose?

While I do admire your thought process, I have one thing to say, mainly about the "If you don't have anything to be sad about, shouldn't that make you happy?" Well... This isn't always true, though I'm sure we'd all greatly prefer if it was. In most cases, if sadness is the main emotion that someone feels, or if it's the base emotion that's always around in their mind, the most common case is that people will begin to feel empty, and, while Eggsampl3 is correct in some regards with his statement of:

eggsampl3 said:
The best thing about an empty container, is that you can fill it with whatever you want. weather it be unbridling wrath, insatiable lust, plain old clutter, or an unrelenting love for something all you gotta do is fill yourself.

There is usually a nagging feeling that, even though you've managed to rid yourself of that sadness, it will always come back, and this is normally caused by a fear of the unknown. The unknown, in this case, being a life without sadness. This causes a lot of people to retreat back to their previous life willingly, and that is when they go back to complaining about the fact that they can't change, which normally results in people saying that they just don't try to change, which is usually incorrect.

LegoTheDraolf said:
i'd love to feel anything besides the rage within me.

I can't seem to control all this rage that's inside me!

chaos control!

Mood

Hoo boy, I was not expecting this, that was a journey and a half lemme tell ya...

CrankyCat said:
Also, stop looking at internet porn all day.

*faps sadly*
amen

big mood

achievement unlocked: depression....
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Morp said:
The simple fact is that we are often depressed because we, humanity, have built a world we don't really want to live in.

I'd never thought about it like that, but dammit you're right. Fuck.

wolfieblueeyes said:
It's not that simple. What you're talking about is much easier said than done. The truth is psychology as a whole is a new science and everyone pretends to know a lot about it, but even the top researchers don't know as much as you'd think. That said. While I applaud you for taking the time to type that out. I don't think this is the best place to be posting this kind of personal opinion. It comes off a bit like you haven't ever really been through depression.

It's a mix of both. Professional help from therapy and medication is definitely something people with depression should consider, but they also should strive to improve themselves. You can't just stop being depressed by smiling more, but at the same time, you can't start to improve if you don't make any effort to. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result will just make you worse.
All in all, while you shouldn't rely on just "doing it" to cure your depression, it should help you improve alongside your clinical treatment.

My dad had a little chihuahua. He started having seizures on the 15th. Next day we take him to the vet and he's fine and we pick them up later that day and he's fine. The next day she wanted to see him and a few hours later tells me he's going really bad. Doesn't give me any good reason and just says how to euthanasia. She doesn't even give me any other choice. And I didn't think about it at the time I needed my dad but we agreed. We should have taken him back home. No more tranquilizers and sedatives. He was always a little firecracker and I knew he would bounce back if we just took in him back home. It took two days for me to realize this. I cry everyday now. I'm so sad and angry. He was just four years old. I've never seen my dad cry. He blames himself. He was never a patient with a little dog. He has two other chihuahuas and now who knows better. But I'd give anything to go back and have Brownie back. He didn't need to be put down because of some idiot vet who didn't know what was going on.

It's hard to talk about depression for me because i've never been depressed or even known anyone who was. I've definitely been really sad, or upset about something, but idk if that's even close to how others feel. I want to say something to help but am afraid because, well, what do I know about being depressed? All I can say is what I have experience with, but I don't want to because I don't want to put someone down by coming off like its easy or something. i don't want to just say "it will get better" because what if they are sad because things haven't gotten better. I just want to be helpful, and idk if i can.

Sometimes I'm sad because I know what I'm sad or mad about, and I can't face the reality of what it means to actually correct it, or I'm unsure if the result will change anything, or if I'd even be able to get to a point to make a change. I'm afraid of public perception, even if I tell myself I don't care about it, because I'm afraid that if I run into the wrong person, that person could ruin my life for the pettiest of reasons, mainly just because they can.

Humans scare me more than anything else on this planet, because we've convinced ourselves that all of our actions can be justified with very little evidence. At least most Apex predators in the wild have a few primary reasons for being what they are, it's not vindictive usually, it's just preservation. Humans do things that serve no purpose but to assume life after death is something to strive for, and can't appreciate what they have right in front of them, so they do terrible things for that infallible fallacy.

The world is in the state it's in because of us, and there's not enough being done to correct that, and I get absolute depression thinking about how small or how large my contribution in that zero-sum game I take part in. I want to make change, and I've done some, but there's things I don't know if I could live without, and much of that comes at a high cost, and I'm scared of giving it up. I hate myself for being complacent in it, but don't see myself living without it, and fighting against it feels like a suicide mission. I don't know if I'm strong enough of character to face that overwhelming force with my head held high, as there will be people from all sides that will come to knock me down mentally, physically, and spiritually, and I'm afraid of being alone in that endeavor.

I've had a lot of time to think in my depression, and that's what I've come to. Just because I know what I want to do doesn't mean my brain and body and spirit are all on the same page. It's always a journey, it's always a struggle, it's always worth it if you can push pass your limits, the challenge is getting everything balanced to finally get one foot in front of the other to start it.

What is frustrating me is that after so many years of still not knowing what it is, I still resort to drugs in situations where I'm just lost, the fandom has helped me allot but, I dunno, I say it's best to just let me be, I've given up LMAO.

Sexuality, i can't tell you how many times i turned to other to help define my tastes only to be told either A) i'm just gay with extra steps, or B) I'm just some slutty guy, and everytime i pursued an answer they just kept turning me away saying, "NO, its not that, your just depressed!!"

(Or in the closet, or just plain perverted/slutty) never could find anyone professional to help either, cayse thry just don't care and often would perscribe pills.

Then some stuff happened, got banned on youtube (my "rock bottom") and my dad found an actual good therapist who knew some other good people, and after some actual family drama i got a good therapist who pointed out my pansexuality.

She told me 2 things that made me like her all the more:
A) she's a real big animation fan and that i have more in c9mmon with mineta and blitzø from MHA and Helluva boss respectively, AND THATS HOW PANSEXUAL ARE, due to emotional abuse from reinforced societal norms, they more trouble fitting in by being more sexualy oriented

B) the people i pursued in the LGBT community were all probably straight and were more PC SJW "supporters" than they were actual gay/queer people, and that they'll say anything just to ride the forward most wave, as well as argue against proper representation, just to be right.

In her words, she said something along the lines of "they're alot like south parks randy marsh, just looking to get a bit of attention and fame, over actually leading a good example"

As for the other thing?... well, my mom being an emotionally abusive dick head, insisted she was doing nothing wrong with locking me in my room, on the grounds a child psychologist told her to because being "head strong" meant i was born to be a brat and she NEEDED to put me in my place before i got out of hand, i was 2 when he recommended this, and all throughout my life, my mom, whom ALWAYS found a ways to fuck me out of all my acheivements, always insisted that it'd "go to my head" did all this shit for 30 years, not realizing my low self esteem and anti-social behavior the arguments she (still) insists I'll get wrong or am to too stupid to handle... never realized that, THAT, was all emotionaly abusive behavior and still insists she's never wrong, all because a licensed doctor at the time, now sentence to life for malpractice (his ideas getting children killed) gave her a god complex, and made her fully hypocritical.

Bright side, next to the fact the other doctor, who insisted i was paranoid, got me off of those pills, he taught me and my dad to cut her out of our lives mostly, we still talk but we stop her before she makes any suggestions and insists she's right.

having had talks with my own mental and physical well being coach, one thing thats been recommended is to start doing something physical with your hands. like working with tools, tending to animals or plants, or creating art. it wont stop some feeling of emptiness, but it can create scaffolding to start filling it. there's no one cure to depression, but you must have faith that you'll get through it and keep moving forward day by day. you've got this, even if you don't think you've got your hands on the reigns, you do.

Well said. Thank you!

Costco muffins make me feel like this… Damn those delicious, evil Costco muffins.

i dont have enough seratonin