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GuntherBorb
MemberHuh, that turned out differently than I thought. This can't be the end though right?
meow mix
MemberHow many more plot twists are there still going to be?
Artlover12
MemberWait does this mean its over for the comic :(
ExtraTHICC
Member...Oh...Okay then.
Next page better be about how Ambus is now happy and in a new, healthy relationship.
user 202542
MemberOk so this is persona 5 situation people. This isn't the end but this is the point where the flashback ends. If you didn't notice most of the story was told like one by ambus himself.
user 202542
MemberNah dude 99% shure that this is the main couple.
They'll probobly get together again but only after a lot of time (and dramma).
Shadow Scythe
MemberNo offense here, but if you loved the person your going out with, why wouldn't you at least tell them these things BEFORE they became this complicated.
Mindes's logic makes little sense, and everything is confusing.
user 202542
MemberMindes is screwed up, too inexperienced and probobly doesn't have and idea in what world he lives in. That is his flaw that Ambus needs to fix. (later at least)
BirbFace
MemberThis kind of mindset is more common than one might think. I, myself have been in Ambus' shoes and let me tell ya, it's way more confusing IRL.
Vulvithmey
MemberHonestly, even though I can understand that Mindes has issues, that still doesn't make me want these two to get back together - it just seems like a relationship that seems happy on the outside while internally it festers and rots. I'd actually prefer to see Ambus get together with a nice Muk, he just doesn't have a strong enough will to help Mindes without getting himself hurt.
zanjll
BlockedPersonally, I think Mindes is lying about all his shit to "capture" what is to him "just another shiney".
Mindes is a sociopath. He does not actually care what happens to Ambus, as long as he gets what he wants.
Vulvithmey
MemberHe isn't a sociopath, but he's still damaged and indeed detached from reality to some extent. The fact that he so easily rationalizes away the child porn, kidnapping and rape going on at his favorite website as 'possibly fictional' is evidence of that, and his instant flare-up at Ambus being leery at that? Yeah, there's no way these two could continue in a stable relationship.
Keon
Member...
...
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Da fuck just happened?!
FurryLover121
MemberI'm thinking about a very pissed off mindes calling another shiny hunter to deal with ambus
ExtraTHICC
Member"I've treated you with nothing but respect"
Sure, posting intimate pics of Ambus without his consent, hiding your fucked up kinks and account from your boyfriend, and constantly lying and trying to shame him about his reaction and fetish is very respectful of you, Mindes.
zanjll
BlockedGiven the behavior, and clear body language from previous encounters with him, Mindes WAS lying in his other confrontations with Ambus.
I stand by my statement, Mindes does not truly care about Ambus' well-being.
And Mindes' "flip out" is more reminiscent of someone who got caught.
zanjll
BlockedAlso saying something akin to "Even if it is real, what do I care?! As long as I'm not the one who put them there I can jerk it all I want! I just wanna see this kind of stuff!"
Does make a person a sociopath. It is a clear resignation that they don't care if someone's getting abused, as long as they're not the one doing it doesn't matter. WATCHING it and doing nothing, by law, I do believe is a co-operation charge if you get caught, because you saw it, stayed to watch, then did nothing. By all accounts, you LET it happen.
dreamndreamagain
MemberOkay, so it turns out he has absolutely no concept of reality and fiction. You're not supposed to let the two mix.
...did I say quirky earlier? I meant painfully naïve. He's a straight-up manchild.
Anon e-moose
MemberThis thing just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
user 275856
MemberMy opinion on Mindes is just flipping and flopping, jumping off the walls with all this dialogue, someone please call the police
FerventFox
MemberFunnily enough, the artist is actually a police officer, so I don’t know if you’ll find much help there :P
AoBird
MemberWell...He has issues, and needs help.
zanjll
BlockedNo art is art, and can be expressed in many ways, you may not like some pictures, and some might even be sick, but that's what the black list is for, for saying " well, fuck that! It's for somebody, sure, bit that somebody sure as hell ain't me.".
But an art piece does not necessarily represent the views of the one that made the piece. And like most of us, I'll be pissed as hell if something happens to ambus, but not every story has to have a good ending and if that's the way the artist chooses to take this, so be it.
ya-boi
Memberdid...did it just end like that!
FurryGoWeh
MemberYeah Mindes just sounds suspicious as hell. If you truly had nothing to hide, you wouldn't flip out and leave forever because someone was doubting you a little. Unless you had real mental issues, which wouldn't be too weird considering how Mindes has been acting.
I'm just super glad Ambus is going to be okay.
The Fursome
MemberWow damn
...
Well that was a ride wasn't it
Was' nice though
AoBird
MemberWhat are going on about? I was talking about Mindes.
zanjll
BlockedMust have read your comment wrong I guess. Thought you were talking about the artist.
As for Mindes, I think he's more then just "broken", and "needs help"
Yopo9810
MemberMaaaaaaaaaan, this is going way too dark. Still, I'm trapped by the dark histories :3
Yopo9810
MemberAfter reading all comments (need 2 find a better hobby
). I think Mindes is actually not a good person. It's either for his immaturity or for a really hypocritical personality (which actually fits with a villain). He does not cara 'bout other people thinks or suffers. He's just building up his way in order to pleasure himself. And A,bus was caught by someone like him.
Derrick Finn
MemberI seriously can't tell what's worse. The fact I agree with them both or the fact I've been on both sides of this
Salted Salts
MemberSo, like, unpopular opinion over here but I'm totally loving this disturbing side of Mindes. Not saying I support it, just that I love the sudden turn his character took from off-putting to bat-shit.
JCV
MemberMindes is literally letting his dick get in the way of any morality he might even have.
MurphyAlter
Member"That was the last time I ever heard from Mindes"
GOOD
STF
MemberWhy do i feel like Mides is going to complain about Ambus on that site and one of the loonies goes and captures him to teach him a lesson.
RavenEevee
MemberMindes has narcissistic personality disorder, i can see it now.The gas lighting and projecting.
dreamndreamagain
MemberGiven how out-of-touch with reality he is, that very well could happen. He'll rant and cause a lot of trouble because he vastly underestimates the internet.
Tandon
MemberI wonder why don't any of his gaming friends fuck him?
user 308540
MemberI mean it would be weird, but Mindes does have a profile on the site. And says on the profile he has hurt others before haha. It's not just "viewing, or a quick fap".
AztepYeen JOLT
MemberNo I liked the Mindes and Ambus relationship. It was cute, while it lasted.
zanjll
BlockedIt most certainly looked cute, til you get context and saw mindes was stalking him long before the first encounter we see of them.(the very start of trust me)
ExtraTHICC
MemberSure, it was cute, but obviously planned and fake from the beginning.
Mindes sees shinies as "harvestables", he's manipulative, egocentric and and has no respect for his lovers and shiny pokemon in general.
So in my opinion unless he has a drastic change of heart, he does not deserve to get back with Ambus.
user 186738
Memberwhat if ambus saves mandes's life from something dangerous...that could be a plot twist?
ACSB
MemberOr vice versa? O-O
ACSB
MemberI don't think it is. Usually it would say "The end" on the comic.
zanjll
BlockedI feel if anything like this were to happen, I feel mindes would have set it up. Like it'd still just be fake, since mindes has been lying this entire time.
softpaw
Memberambus deserves to be in a happy and healthy relationship and far, far away from this mindes creep imo
PotatoCannon
MemberLiteral definition of gaslighting.
EightyNine
MemberAnd nothing of value was lost.
OzzyFox
MemberWhile I hate the attitude Mindes takes, he raises an interesting argument. He calls it kink shaming but it seems like he's way past that into compulsion or outright delusion. It's fascinating to me that we are so inculcated into this (at least partially) faith based system of deserved retribution that we have no sympathy or understanding for the personal ramifications of being attracted to something immoral. No wonder he's as fucked up as he is, he didn't choose his attractions but always seems to be the one on the hook. Do sites exist in this world for shiny-philes that use actors and are non-harm? How about support groups? Does Ambus think he is so terrible that he would do that to any and everyone? Even worse, does he think the only answer is prison or isolation? He is only being blamed for failing to realize what it means to hate one's own feelings to the point where you can NEVER let it slip that you have them lest you lose all connection to social order and begin the inevitable spiral down to suicide...a touchy situation indeed...
user 157520
MemberImagine if that was the end of the comic and at the bottom right you just saw "The end." xd
yaja
Member"How am i supposed to know what's fiction and what's real?" Makes me cringe -_-
Adicius
MemberI mean this is for the best. It still sound like bullshit excuses. The rules of netting made it sound like lies. It's his own fault
Sphenis
MemberMindes' trauma is NOT a valid excuse for being an asshole creep who financially supports the abuse of others while getting off to it and then acting surprised that his boyfriend is having trust issues
ElysiumOxide
MemberDang. Mindes is really using a mole hill that Ambus made to deflect criticism for a full-blown mountain he made himself.
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