GLaVedier said:
Ah, more gay Nick. This will never be dated or cliche. And Judy interested in gay Nick. Thats also not a cliche. Good thing Zaush is so original and has never resorted to repetition of ideas.

3HC-Hg-CH3 said:
Gay? They're probably all bi, to maximize the amount of intercourse that can be had. I suspect another orgy is incoming, that Nick will 'win', him being a fox and all. It's great to see character development like that, showing that the author cares for more than just plain porn with popular faces slapped on.

Perfect, I was missing salt for my 'porn soup' anyway ~

If you're really complaining (passively aggressive) about this, porn is probably the last thing you should point out or criticize things like that. Zaush's art is stunning and since it's a commissioned/patron-requested image, I'd say these comments are a tad inappropriate. Especially here on e621; just enjoy the porn, dammit! :P

GLaVedier said:
Ah, more gay Nick. This will never be dated or cliche. And Judy interested in gay Nick. Thats also not a cliche. Good thing Zaush is so original and has never resorted to repetition of ideas.

3HC-Hg-CH3 said:
Gay? They're probably all bi, to maximize the amount of intercourse that can be had. I suspect another orgy is incoming, that Nick will 'win', him being a fox and all. It's great to see character development like that, showing that the author cares for more than just plain porn with popular faces slapped on.

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Thank you for helping with tags, when the high quality is released I’m sure this will be replaced.
But I do not know the names of many of the zootopia characters.

I can't begrudge bi/gay furries one bit for thinking about their fursonas getting lewd with Nick Wilde, even to the point of drawing and/or writing it all out. The character is genuinely sexy and such situations are pretty harmless to anybody else's enjoyment of Zootopia. It can be done badly, but it's also not some kind of a line-crossing idea inherently.

At the same time, making Nick into a sort of ultra-submissive is an annoying meme at this point, and why the adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish held about him has gotten so popular is truly beyond me. There's no reason to take an otherwise simple moment and complicate it by insisting that Judy Hopps has to do something against him and/or vise versa. Yes, I know that kinks usually don't make logical sense, but it's pushed so much and gets so irritating. Nick's not some kind of weird abuser-meets-doormat-meets-sicko combination.

In my personal opinion, this image partly does that yet mostly doesn't. There's no negative context in terms of build-up or anything, with any emotional manipulation or the like being totally absent. Nick is being both dominant and submissive at the same time. However, the frustrating shoehorning in of Judy with Gideon Gray in the background as well as Mr. Otterton apparently finding Nick more interesting than his own hot wife drags the picture down a lot. It's Adam Wan pushing that adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish even when it has no inherent place in what could simply be Nick playing around with some friends, with either nobody else involved or maybe having Judy as an approving participant. I don't mind the image yet have to regret the missing potential.

It seems to boil down to this: treat Nick as if you genuinely like him and enjoy how he got created. Seems like common sense. Try to play up the positive. He's a character from a show made to teach morals about compassion and growth, after all.

I think we all learned a valuable lesson here:

It's porn. People can do what they want with it. And you can have your opinion on it.

But use the goddamn blacklist if needs must.

The actual lesson is to ignore comments section, lol

GLaVedier said:
Wait a tick... They listen to Patreon? I think that's the most unbelievable part of this whole thing. I'll buy adulterous bisexual Emmitt Otterton over that idea.

Also, "just enjoy the porn" is second cousin of "eat your e. coli infested shitburgers, it's all we all deserve." It's why movies for kids are shit. If you have no standards... actually... maybe you don't. And maybe that's all you deserve. Wow. Now I don't hold you in contempt. Now I pity you.

This is not being made for your entertainment. It just happens to be available to you. It was made for someone else's entertainment and you can have a look at it.

If this was given to you by some institution and would be regulated, you'd have a point. But you can certainly stop the shit show and the personal judgement.

It's minor, I know, and already taken care of here, but I'd like to point this out directly: 'casual_nudity' happens when characters get naked without any particular goal or purpose in mind.

Losing one's clothes right before kinky times, right after, or even during them: that's different, and they should be labeled as just being 'nude'.

UmmNo said:
Thank you for helping with tags, when the high quality is released I’m sure this will be replaced.
But I do not know the names of many of the zootopia characters.

Fear not, for there are no Zootopian characters here, these are just knock-offs.
You can give them any of the movie names you like if you're that way inclined, but those of the fandom will know better.

Amazing how some of these comment threads develop.

(not trying to call anyone out, just an observation)

The otter wants to play too.

Will we get more Finnick in this art style?

I love this ×-×

GLaVedier said:
Ah, more gay Nick. This will never be dated or cliche. And Judy interested in gay Nick. Thats also not a cliche. Good thing Zaush is so original and has never resorted to repetition of ideas.

Was it ever confirmed Nick was straight?

GLaVedier said:
Oh, nice. The rare and elusive "Ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball." Seldom seen in the wild.

Or maybe it's "You can't prove God doesn't exist, so he exists and I win by default." Hard to say.

No. It's that Nick was never shown to be either or so why should the artwork matter if he is portrayed as straight, gay, or bi?

ImakandiLion said:
No. It's that Nick was never shown to be either or so why should the artwork matter if he is portrayed as straight, gay, or bi?

Why should it matter as to what is canon when it comes to Nick's partner preference? An artist can choose to make whatever they want because it is their art in the end and they have the final say with what content the piece portrays.

Blodhgarm92 said:
Why should it matter as to what is canon when it comes to Nick's partner preference? An artist can choose to make whatever they want because it is their art in the end and they have the final say with what content the piece portrays.

Yeah that was my point too. Also since Nick wasn't shown to be interested on either side it's pretty much up for grabs.

ImakandiLion said:
Yeah that was my point too. Also since Nick wasn't shown to be interested on either side it's pretty much up for grabs.

i'm putting the "what? no kiss for daddy?" line at finnick as a point for the gay/bi side lol.

Moodawg said:
i'm putting the "what? no kiss for daddy?" line at finnick as a point for the gay/bi side lol.

LOL same not to mention how Nick's personality is sarcasm especially at the end towards Judy he says "You know you love me". However I think it was that line that made people think him an Judy are a couple instead of just friends.

RT_Pilon said:
Fear not, for there are no Zootopian characters here, these are just knock-offs.
You can give them any of the movie names you like if you're that way inclined, but those of the fandom will know better.

What was that? You’ll need to speak up, I can barely hear you from up there on your high horse.

His art keeps getting more arousing. My god, I thought the otter fox facial was hot. And then we get this.

Can never get enough gay Nick, honestly. Zaush's writing skills may be god-awful, but he draws the hottest Nick pics out of anyone else.

Hope he makes more.

Oh boy...
Lemme grab the popcorn

AlexanderMugetsu said:
Gay Nick I've never found to be a big problem, it's just the way some do it I hate.

Dude just use the blacklist then and you won't have to see art like this ever again

Pheanir said:
Perfect, I was missing salt for my 'porn soup' anyway ~

If you're really complaining (passively aggressive) about this, porn is probably the last thing you should point out or criticize things like that. Zaush's art is stunning and since it's a commissioned/patron-requested image, I'd say these comments are a tad inappropriate. Especially here on e621; just enjoy the porn, dammit! :P

Guys, I understand that what these two were saying was kinda pointless. But why are you all so sensitive about it, do really expect to only see comments like "Awesome", "I love dis" or "more"? Of course, that Zaushs art is great, but the reason there is comment section is so that people could actually say what they think (positive or negative) whenever you like it or not.
Especially when according to admins, this is not a PORN site but an ART site.

Fenrir26 said:
Guys, I understand that what these two were saying was kinda pointless. But why are you all so sensitive about it, do really expect to only see comments like "Awesome", "I love dis" or "more"? Of course, that Zaushs art is great, but the reason there is comment section is so that people could actually say what they think (positive or negative) whenever you like it or not.
Especially when according to admins, this is not a PORN site but an ART site.

You're right, I should have sticked to the picture itself. No matter what Zaush draws, it always looks amazing. This picture here is no exception ;)

I think the point is wholesome characters doing naughty things guys

Just wow. A really nice variation of the texture zaush uses, great work!

swiperthefox said:

It seems to boil down to this: treat Nick as if you genuinely like him and enjoy how he got created. Seems like common sense. Try to play up the positive. He's a character from a show made to teach morals about compassion and growth, after all.

Wouldn't that mean *no one* should make porn of him? Or maybe I missed the part of Zootopia where they had a big orgy idk, maybe it was in the deleted scenes?

If ya don't like it, blacklist it. If you don't mind it don't post three paragraphs of how it doesn't live up to your expectations when it is free porn that *IS NOT TAILORED SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU*, not forced upon you, not diminishing any preexisting pornography, but rather created for anyone interested to enjoy. If you have helpful notes on the artwork, not the subject matter, those are obviously acceptable, but going "wahh wahh its not my kink so its bad :C" is just.. sad.

Honestly, the attempt at some kind of high ground on a degenerate (and I use the term endearingly) site such as this is just insulting.

Someone making Nick take dick isn't going to change Nick's canon so stop acting like it's a crime against the character's integrity.

Why is everyone bitching? this is one of the hottest pics on the site

whatever2008 said:
Why is everyone arguing? this is one of the hottest pics on the site

The condition of being alive.
Chaos.

swiperthefox said:
I can't begrudge bi/gay furries one bit for thinking about their fursonas getting lewd with Nick Wilde, even to the point of drawing and/or writing it all out. The character is genuinely sexy and such situations are pretty harmless to anybody else's enjoyment of Zootopia. It can be done badly, but it's also not some kind of a line-crossing idea inherently.

At the same time, making Nick into a sort of ultra-submissive is an annoying meme at this point, and why the adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish held about him has gotten so popular is truly beyond me. There's no reason to take an otherwise simple moment and complicate it by insisting that Judy Hopps has to do something against him and/or vise versa. Yes, I know that kinks usually don't make logical sense, but it's pushed so much and gets so irritating. Nick's not some kind of weird abuser-meets-doormat-meets-sicko combination.

In my personal opinion, this image partly does that yet mostly doesn't. There's no negative context in terms of build-up or anything, with any emotional manipulation or the like being totally absent. Nick is being both dominant and submissive at the same time. However, the frustrating shoehorning in of Judy with Gideon Gray in the background as well as Mr. Otterton apparently finding Nick more interesting than his own hot wife drags the picture down a lot. It's Adam Wan pushing that adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish even when it has no inherent place in what could simply be Nick playing around with some friends, with either nobody else involved or maybe having Judy as an approving participant. I don't mind the image yet have to regret the missing potential.

It seems to boil down to this: treat Nick as if you genuinely like him and enjoy how he got created. Seems like common sense. Try to play up the positive. He's a character from a show made to teach morals about compassion and growth, after all.

Such is the fate of popular foxes in the fandom. Look at Krystal. She went through everything Nick is going through back when she was the darling of the Furries. Now it's someone else's turn.

fenrir26 said:
Guys, I understand that what these two were saying was kinda pointless. But why are you all so sensitive about it, do really expect to only see comments like "Awesome", "I love dis" or "more"? Of course, that Zaushs art is great, but the reason there is comment section is so that people could actually say what they think (positive or negative) whenever you like it or not.
Especially when according to admins, this is not a PORN site but an ART site.

You're right. However, that doesn't mean they can't get comments back or get downvoted. What you're basically asking is that everyone who didn't like their comment shut up and not give their own opinions. Being allowed to speak is a two way street. If you give a hot take then you should expect for people to respond.

swiperthefox said:
It's minor, I know, and already taken care of here, but I'd like to point this out directly: 'casual_nudity' happens when characters get naked without any particular goal or purpose in mind.

Losing one's clothes right before kinky times, right after, or even during them: that's different, and they should be labeled as just being 'nude'.

True, but there are characters in the background that would be classified as having ‘casual_nudity’

glavedier said:
Ah, more gay Nick. This will never be dated or cliche. And Judy interested in gay Nick. Thats also not a cliche. Good thing Zaush is so original and has never resorted to repetition of ideas.

swiperthefox said:
I can't begrudge bi/gay furries one bit for thinking about their fursonas getting lewd with Nick Wilde, even to the point of drawing and/or writing it all out. The character is genuinely sexy and such situations are pretty harmless to anybody else's enjoyment of Zootopia. It can be done badly, but it's also not some kind of a line-crossing idea inherently.

At the same time, making Nick into a sort of ultra-submissive is an annoying meme at this point, and why the adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish held about him has gotten so popular is truly beyond me. There's no reason to take an otherwise simple moment and complicate it by insisting that Judy Hopps has to do something against him and/or vise versa. Yes, I know that kinks usually don't make logical sense, but it's pushed so much and gets so irritating. Nick's not some kind of weird abuser-meets-doormat-meets-sicko combination.

In my personal opinion, this image partly does that yet mostly doesn't. There's no negative context in terms of build-up or anything, with any emotional manipulation or the like being totally absent. Nick is being both dominant and submissive at the same time. However, the frustrating shoehorning in of Judy with Gideon Gray in the background as well as Mr. Otterton apparently finding Nick more interesting than his own hot wife drags the picture down a lot. It's Adam Wan pushing that adultery/cheating/cucking/dishonesty fetish even when it has no inherent place in what could simply be Nick playing around with some friends, with either nobody else involved or maybe having Judy as an approving participant. I don't mind the image yet have to regret the missing potential.

It seems to boil down to this: treat Nick as if you genuinely like him and enjoy how he got created. Seems like common sense. Try to play up the positive. He's a character from a show made to teach morals about compassion and growth, after all.

glavedier said:
Oh, nice. The rare and elusive "Ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball." Seldom seen in the wild.

Or maybe it's "You can't prove God doesn't exist, so he exists and I win by default." Hard to say.

Imagine being upset that porn wasn't made with you in mind. Holy crow, guys, if you don't like porn, don't fap to it! It's really that simple.

d4rk said:
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Lol, you should have taken your own advice

GLaVedier said:
Ah, more gay Nick. This will never be dated or cliche. And Judy interested in gay Nick. Thats also not a cliche. Good thing Zaush is so original and has never resorted to repetition of ideas.

Fr

Lmao, you people actually think Nick is straight. He's nothing in canon, he's not in a relationship with Judy, they are nothing beyond friends and colleagues. Y'all just projecting yourselves bc you desperately want pussy irl, pretty pathetic tbh.

Where is Judy in this?