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Carmelita Fox joins LyonHearth's Dating Site and celebrates the holidays with a lucky partner! He'll give her an amazing present alright :)

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  • Is it just me who's annoyed at the lack of sex sounds? They can be cringey from time to time, but having no sounds other than crickets and cheesy Christmas music is probably even worse!

    It just feels like everything Safety puts out gets gradually worse. First it was the annoying voice acting, then the grating SFX *insert sound of crashing waves here* drowning out everything else, and now he can't even be bothered to put in full SFX, along with his usual lazy sex editting...

    I wouldn't be mad, if not for the fact that the fucker's asking for money for this lack of quality. I guess that's just the Patreon syndrome though... Because why put in any effort when a few blindly loyal fans will still pay out? -_-

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    Is it just me who's annoyed at the lack of sex sounds? They can be cringey from time to time, but having no sounds other than crickets and cheesy Christmas music is probably even worse!

    It just feels like everything Safety puts out gets gradually worse. First it was the annoying voice acting, then the grating SFX *insert sound of crashing waves here* drowning out everything else, and now he can't even be bothered to put in full SFX, along with his usual lazy sex editting...

    I wouldn't be mad, if not for the fact that the fucker's asking for money for this lack of quality. I guess that's just the Patreon syndrome though... Because why put in any effort when a few blindly loyal fans will still pay out? -_-

    Least the voice acting used here is quite decent and the music isn't that loud.

    Here's hoping he manages to find the right spot for sound and animation to come together perfectly.

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  • Foxxynight said:
    You realize actual sex typically has little noise? It's the bed or the person who make all the noise.

    Yes, I realize. I HAVE watched real-life porn before too, wouldn't you know? And not just those overblown porn shoots, but also the occasional amateur video, whatever looks appealing enough.

    But animation is held to a different standard, because you can manipulate reality, twist things that are erotic to be even more erotic. You can increase the size of the ass, the bust, the peen, you can make the slapping noises fuller, louder, you can even add things that are basically impossible in real life, like massive amounts of semen, inflation and, of course, fantasy races.

    So don't talk to me like this is about realism! It's about using the medium to its fullest potential. And as time has passed Safety has only been getting sloppier or lazier, probably both. And yet he's decided to put a price on himself, like he's suddenly some sort of hot commodity. And people are actually buying into it! >_<

    The frustrating part is that Safety does have some talent, some skill, but he's not putting it to full use. He's making a lot of mistakes, rushing things, whatever it is that leads to these half-baked animations... Actually, the animation itself is for the most part fine. It's monotonous, but nothing too terrible. It's the integration of sound that really annoys me the most; because he tries to do it, yet he never seems to understand it. He adds background noise, but makes it so loud that you can't hear what the characters are saying. He adds music, but no sex sounds. He just goes all over the place with his sound design, and it's just so frustrating!

    It's like a blacksmith trying to build a house. He knows how to do the fittings, he understands structural integrity, but he couldn't tell oak from birch. >_>

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    Yes, I realize. I HAVE watched real-life porn before too, wouldn't you know? And not just those overblown porn shoots, but also the occasional amateur video, whatever looks appealing enough.

    But animation is held to a different standard, because you can manipulate reality, twist things that are erotic to be even more erotic. You can increase the size of the ass, the bust, the peen, you can make the slapping noises fuller, louder, you can even add things that are basically impossible in real life, like massive amounts of semen, inflation and, of course, fantasy races.

    So don't talk to me like this is about realism! It's about using the medium to its fullest potential. And as time has passed Safety has only been getting sloppier or lazier, probably both. And yet he's decided to put a price on himself, like he's suddenly some sort of hot commodity. And people are actually buying into it! >_<

    The frustrating part is that Safety does have some talent, some skill, but he's not putting it to full use. He's making a lot of mistakes, rushing things, whatever it is that leads to these half-baked animations... Actually, the animation itself is for the most part fine. It's monotonous, but nothing too terrible. It's the integration of sound that really annoys me the most; because he tries to do it, yet he never seems to understand it. He adds background noise, but makes it so loud that you can't hear what the characters are saying. He adds music, but no sex sounds. He just goes all over the place with his sound design, and it's just so frustrating!

    It's like a blacksmith trying to build a house. He knows how to do the fittings, he understands structural integrity, but he couldn't tell oak from birch. >_>

    Geez man, it's just a furry porn animation, not a full blown movie production. It's not that serious. Either you like it or you don't. Either up vote/down vote it and move on. And it's not really your call to get upset about an artist wanting to put a price on their work. You aren't being forced to pay to enjoy it. Like I said...you can like it or not and just move on. Also, when it's all said and done, you have no clue what the artist is going through...what sort of deadlines or time crunches they are trying to meet. Their art isn't going to have 5 Star, million dollar budget quality/production all the time. An artist has their good days and their bad days, just like everyone else. And sometimes they have more bad days than good.

    No, don't get my words twisted into me saying people can't share their two cents on how they feel about a piece of art, because they can. But like I said, the way you are going about it, you are making it seem way more serious and over the top than it really is in the end.

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    The guy wants to earn money from his craft, he'll get the full treatment from me. There are enough hacks and wannabes in this community already, I don't need another!

    Call me overly serious, but don't imply I'm wrong for thinking what I do. As soon as people around here put up their little corner on Patreon, their quality starts going down, and their disconnect only gets worse. I don't wanna call out names, except for the man of the hour, but every time some popufur bugs off to Patreon they only start going downhill, both with quality and public opinion...

    Money and art don't go together. It's that simple.

    You do realize the poster is the creator of the video right? If you have a problem go send them a message.

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    The guy wants to earn money from his craft, he'll get the full treatment from me. There are enough hacks and wannabes in this community already, I don't need another!

    Call me overly serious, but don't imply I'm wrong for thinking what I do. As soon as people around here put up their little corner on Patreon, their quality starts going down, and their disconnect only gets worse. I don't wanna call out names, except for the man of the hour, but every time some popufur bugs off to Patreon they only start going downhill, both with quality and public opinion...

    Money and art don't go together. It's that simple.

    I wasn't "Implying you were wrong". I simply said you are making it sound way worse than it really is. If you don't want people to imply you of something, don't do the same in return. Calling the kettle black there, ain't ya bub?

    Also..."Money and art don't go together." You are saying that an artist shouldn't be allowed to charge for their work if they want? So....I guess that means musicians shouldn't get paid for producing the songs/albums they do and should just give their music out for free. I am guessing game developers should just make games for free and just give them away instead of charging people money for them. Gtfo with that bull. You sound like one of them r/entitledchildren who demand artists to commission work for them for free and in return will pay them in "exposure to those who follow me".

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    Is it just me who's annoyed at the lack of sex sounds? They can be cringey from time to time, but having no sounds other than crickets and cheesy Christmas music is probably even worse!

    It just feels like everything Safety puts out gets gradually worse. First it was the annoying voice acting, then the grating SFX *insert sound of crashing waves here* drowning out everything else, and now he can't even be bothered to put in full SFX, along with his usual lazy sex editting...

    I wouldn't be mad, if not for the fact that the fucker's asking for money for this lack of quality. I guess that's just the Patreon syndrome though... Because why put in any effort when a few blindly loyal fans will still pay out? -_-

    Gotta agree with ya. Most artists like this that do sfm and blender and stuff are lacking good content. I would definitly pay if every once in awhile we got a vid of decent animation and sound and cumshots and creampies and maybe some anal.Though i wish we could get more guy on guy animations that are quality

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  • i can say i Muted the animation (like always)

    So from there, it's one of the best one in long time,
    the humpíng animations aren't unsync, the blurry are decent, and the small details like the lips (pull in/out) in the full nelson its noticeable, i dunno how much he delayed in this one, the model was released 6 days ago so i can say its really fast for the level of production put in so i'm surprised of the level of quality on animation putted in

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    The guy wants to earn money from his craft, he'll get the full treatment from me. There are enough hacks and wannabes in this community already, I don't need another!

    Call me overly serious, but don't imply I'm wrong for thinking what I do. As soon as people around here put up their little corner on Patreon, their quality starts going down, and their disconnect only gets worse. I don't wanna call out names, except for the man of the hour, but every time some popufur bugs off to Patreon they only start going downhill, both with quality and public opinion...

    Money and art don't go together. It's that simple.

    this is wrong in many levels, the saying "if you're good at something, don't do it for free"
    Starting from there, i respect alot this dude for the simple fact he helped me alot days back in 2017 with the first carmelita model, also
    sometimes some artist need some supports of money, need keep a ratio of earning and skill and demand archived for that

    i have at least 1000 USD per month (its literally my salary) for do at least a model per month and every patreon have just to pay 15 usd per new crafted model, and if you are new one will receive all the previous crafted models together for the same pledge,

    i don't receive complaints from that way to work and always try to improve my quality from the models side

    of course im in other side of the comuinity
    im moslty like a "RAW matter" seller, the animators and posters use my stuff to make excelent posters or animations, its a 50/50 skill, not everyone knows to modelling, don't everyone knows animations

    some masters animations, some masters modelling, its some kind of Symbiotic relationship

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    Is it just me who's annoyed at the lack of sex sounds? They can be cringey from time to time, but having no sounds other than crickets and cheesy Christmas music is probably even worse!

    Is it Christmas music? It sounds more like "green sleeves" to me.

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  • How has safety's animations become the star wars prequels of E621? I've never seen so much debate over a 3 minute stop motion furry porn video before xD

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  • ok question are they doing it multiple times a day or between 3 days or is that just one day just asking because one scene she is naked then wearing Christmas clothes then naked again?

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  • The model is great. The voice acting is also well done.

    Could have done without that 'full nelson, knees to shoulder' sex pose everyone seems to love to much. I dunno about anyone else, but it seems like it would hurt!

    The animation is very smooth. I agree with some people that some faint sex sounds (heavy breathing, the occasional moan, that sort of thing) would add something to this, but I'm not hatin' on its absence.

    Overall, a nice animation starring one of my favorite characters.

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  • I feel like people are way too hard on Safety's animations. Like, there's being critical, and then there's just being nitpicky. Hell, I know Safety isn't the best in certain aspects, but I think this is great none the less.
    Ah, idk. All I'm saying is that I feel people are way too harsh on him

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  • So there are some people who disagree with my notion that money and art don't go together. I guess I can understand it to some degree: We want to reward those who do good or beautiful things, it's only natural. And I realise that people need to make a living; you can't use good intentions to buy bread and all that jazz. So if you want to pour your all into your art, but you can't dedicate yourself fully without support, then I suppose asking for bread while you work is a solution.

    But we also live in a world where people are trying, and succeeding, in exploiting loyal fans for that bread, whilst putting in the least amount of effort into their end products. The gaming industry, like one guy mentioned, is a perfect example of this. Sure there have been more and more games of note lately, with indie developers putting out great pieces of art that definitely deserve all the attention, and money, that they get.
    But then there are the others. Big companies like Bethesda, EA, Activision Blizzard, who just don't seem to be able to get their shit together. Whether they're releasing broken products like Fallout 76, trying to scam players with loot boxes and microtransactions, or even going so far as to suppress free speech so as to not upset a significant consumer base, they're always focusing their efforts in the worst direction possible, leaving the consumer on the short end almost every time.
    And why do they succeed while doing this? Because of name value, or they simply have the resources to overlook discord. But most of all: They have a following of blindly loyal or ignorant fans, who are willing to look past almost anything just to get their fix of whatever it is they're putting out, whether it be the yearly CoD of FIFA title. And this is what pisses me off. These people don't deserve that sort of commitment!

    I realise I'm being hard on Safety, maybe too hard, comparing him to these companies. But if I am, it's because I'm fed up with an art culture that rewards name over effort, the past over the present. And if my criticism might lead to even a small creator reconsidering their model, then I won't stop being harsh! And if they double down on their ideas in defence? Well that would just prove my point: That they are the scammers I thought they were.

    Or maybe I just need to stop drinking before commenting, I don't know. I can only say what I feel is right.

    But when I said that money and art don't go together, I did honestly misspeak, and I apologize for that. What I meant is that art for the sake of money is a vain effort, one which will either force a creator to go down a dangerous path they're uncomfortable with, or simply make them try and be as "effective" as possible. Either way, it'll negatively affect their art in the long run, as the artist will either break in on themselves over their subject matter, abandon it altogether once they're financially stable, or they'll stop taking risks and become predictable, boring... I could list a slew of artists who are like that.
    Commissions are an exception, as that is someone else's art through your hands, and you're just being paid for the skilled labour. That's entirely different. Although you should keep a certain level of quality even in commissions, otherwise you might not get more of them in the future...

    Alright, rant over for now. I'll be back after my next drink!

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  • dude1983 said:
    it's the dialogue from that sly theves im time promotional video

    hilarious

    That's the woman who voiced Carmelita Fox since Thieves in Time was Grey DeLisle.

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  • Dyamashiro_1998 said:
    That's the woman who voiced Carmelita Fox since Thieves in Time was Grey DeLisle.

    we know that, and it was not a good choice to give her such thick accent

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  • It's comments like these that make animators want to quit making animations

    Picky choosy about every little detail, making giant paragraph essays about why they don't deserve the money that they're making because it doesn't meet their standards

    Like somebody else said, you either like it or you don't, upvote or downvote, then move on with your life

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    Ah hey there everyone! Late merry xmas and happy holidays from MrSantaLion!

    *Just imagine machoman randy savage's voice while reading the long wall of text I guess*

    Woah I got message from a E621 person saying comments in my posts have too much traffic and people spamming comments lol, I thought I said something horrible or something.

    For me, I'll be honest, I don't read E621 comments. I'm sorry, this is because I already have more than 10 sites I upload to and discord groups I talk to, E621 I cannot read all because it still pings me up to the very first posts that I posted years ago that I didn't like myself :/

    But if you want your comment to be acknowledged by me personally, please comment on my Furaffinity account posts or twitter. I reply to a lot of the new ones, mostly on later post ones, in case there are deleted comments there, those are either free requests or questions that aren't relevant to the video like "can you do X and Y next?, "where did you get model" "How much is your commission" etc. Those are deleted and I reply to those in PM notes there based on their question.

    Ok let's talk Big elephant in the room
    Why is the camera shaking, it's a secret I will say if i get 10000 patrons, im just kidding, it's because, *drum* I'm only going to reveal it to a furaffinity journal, there's a legit reason why i won't be removing them. So to real fans of my work, follow me there and I will post it when I'll do a one big AMA post, probably in 2020 stay tuned! Get answers from, why are the animations not top resolution? Why do I have a patreon? Where did I get my name? Why are voices and script like that? More on my tell all AMA journal post there.

    Ok back to this, I love animating, I'm doing this because it's fun, that's it, no point in making long 5 minute videos if it's not fun to do. If you don't like the stories, it's fine, not everyone liked Joker, not everyone loved Star Wars. I am not picasso, nor harry potter book writer, I'm doing porn parodies of things that exist maybe more than 10 years ago. IT'S PORN!!! You expect people to recite MacBeth then you got the wrong site, write your better stories or post them on the comments section in my posts on furaffinity so I can actually read the better writing you prefer. I totally understand. I mean I'm not gonna feel sappy or horrible with all the comments because I love doing it, It's fun! I feel imaginative again like playing with action figures making up dumb stories with them. Remember when you last listened to a 'two steps from hell epic' music, your brain imagines this epic battle, that's my imagination when I hear porn music and have 2 characters to use. When people post hate comments about my animation I feel like South park creators when people say their animation sucks.

    If you don't like my animation, I mean, nobody's forcing you to watch them. I think you have a problem if you still go to every one of my projects to post a hate post without blacklisting my name on E621. Just Type -mrsafetylion in the search and you won't see my posts here. Bookmark it so you don't have to type it in again. I mean we all wish you the best in your viewing in porn in a holiday time. I wish everyone even the haters a happy holidays, I really don't get what's with all the negativity randomly here. I'm like just here posting a huge word text because I thought I was messaged because something was hugely wrong.

    If you have a problem with my works, I mean, there's the message button, message me privately and message me all your posts, don't ruin other people's enjoyment. A person screaming in a theater will make everyone watching have a horrible time. Just send a direct post saying why you hate it and I'll say why it's like that, then it's over, no need to go over dozens on posts of screaming every theater. A party DJ club where people are having fun, you aren't having fun, you're not gonna break the dj table and tell everyone to go home it sucks, what you do is you go home and have the fun that you like, that's it, no need to be killjoy or a partypooper.

    To all my fans who doesn't know yet, go to my Furaffinity or twitter and comment there, we'll have fun in the comments section there, I go there and read people's posts and interact to everyone and talk to people in discord. Say hi there, make a fun joke post on whatever happened to all the oil barrels I used to drowse all my ladies in my animations.

    No need for hate or nonsense, if you hate my art, it's fine, I also don't like that captain america with thor's hammer didn't get to do something cool other than get his ass beat by thanos, but i'm not going to every theater screaming i hate the avengers 4 movie every movie showing. Instead I'll enjoy it with friends and have a fun time. Draw the idea in a fanart, or message the director privately and tell them my what I think is a better idea that he should have killed at least a hundred creeps first to show his cool new power and get people's pop in. It was dead silent in the audience when he just get punched and it was over.

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    No need for hate or nonsense, if you hate my art, it's fine, I also don't like that captain america with thor's hammer didn't get to do something cool other than get his ass beat by thanos, but i'm not going to every theater screaming i hate the avengers 4 movie every movie showing. Instead I'll enjoy it with friends and have a fun time. Draw the idea in a fanart, or message the director privately and tell them my what I think is a better idea that he should have killed at least a hundred creeps first to show his cool new power and get people's pop in. It was dead silent in the audience when he just get punched and it was over.

    If people hate something and keep going back, it's a hatred towards themselves inside, they want to pass on their hate and pain then pretend it's nothing and make a snide comment hiding behind their pain in a post in a site where easy fake accounts are used. A person hates someone successful because they think it's injustice, they think they deserve better, they believe they've been in hardships unlike the successful person. They want them to feel the hardships they went through. I've went through hardships in art too, I watched as newgrounds flash furry porn disappear. Before e621 there was nothing. Me and Warfare had to introduce this world to a new genre of 3d porn. It was the boom of overwatch porn and warfare only had krystal. I did those early halo elite x krystal animations all for less than 10$ because that's how we had no money and needed money to move on with the business so I can pay for VAs for my upcoming bigger projects. My falco x krystal videos, my krystal getting gangbanged videos, all not the animations I want, but i had to do it to pay for VAs and modellers to commission other modellers that charge like 1000-3000$ or more for models. We had hardships too. Warfare had to do his models from a cheap laptop, getting kicked out of home. I had to use my work's computers to render my first animations thus why it's kinda better looking in quality. Hardships we went through, and now after paving the way, people can now just watch and get models in their leisure for FREE. You don't have to go through what we went through, everything hand delivered, hand cared, blood sweat tears made models and arts. Hardships we went through that we don't want looking back to. We didn't pass our pain on, we turned it into inspiration and positive thinking believing that someday, people will have an easier time animating, making porn, and other animators making a patreon to get tips, now it's all easy and we're happy nobody has to go through what we had to.

    So why do we have fans? Well don't cherry pick the bad reasons and look at the bigger picture. All animations have negativity, all projects have downsides, Witcher 3 still has bugs, Skyrim still wasn't perfect. But you can just feel the hardwork and effort ooze out from it while you balance your eyes on the shaking camera.

    Be like positive people and have fun, I use patreon to pay for the voice actors, donate to the music makers, the script ghost writers, my friends who needed money for their art career like warfare and crescent. I have a job outside art, I don't need all these porn to become my work, the patreon is so I don't have to pay with my job money for VAs as I already pay with my time to effort on these projects, these projects come out for FREE! These videos aren't 4k quality behind a paywall and never released for public anytime. I also pay for post processing computer programs and my friends to commission models and programs with.

    I mean if a hater is still present in the next post, then if you read this post, and saw another hate post, then you know why they're doing it. and if you want a clean post of my project without those hate energy around, go watch on pornhub, laugh at a comment that a preston garvey roleplayer says you need to help another settlement, or go to newgrounds where people's humor is wider for content makers.

    I'm not like those famous 10000$ per months MilesDF or *insert super famous artist* artists who left E621 and FA because they are just pushed out from hate. Now they're in patreon and love talking to their patreons in their private discord groups, me, I don't even have a private discord group. I talk to everyone on FA notes and comments from their commissions, suggestions, ideas and stuff. I'm so full though, 2021 full, so please no more commission ideas.

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    So TLDR
    I am aware of all the posts, I am not disconnected or anything, I just don't read E621, no need to name names, up to you if you wanna continue reading comments section of my works here than staying in Furaffinity. Your fault if you come across a bad hate comment and feel bad if you're still staying here.

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    Here are my replies for some of the hate posts

    Just to show I don't hate anyone, Darkblue's "money and art don't go together". I totally agree, but that's not what the Voice Actors, Script Writers, Adobe, 3d modellers, 2d animation programs, Sony Vegas, Zbrush and 4D Cinema said to me when I pay for their services sadly. :(

    Why does the sounds suck, that's TigerIncubus's problem, he's my post renderer. Why does the script suck, for this one it's not even written by me. Other projects sometimes I hire ghost writers, so also not my problem. Animation style, I'll reveal in FA in the future. I don't have time to write. Voice Actors, I don't have power to make them sound like opera singers that has angel's voices and direct them as is, I tell them to sound like a person and they'll send me the voices whether I like it or not, I have to pay them again if I want them to do the voices again in another tone. I am not paying again.

    And Why is there no noise? Because me and TigerIncubus never put any noise there, it was made around christmas, we're not spending our holiday putting bed noises every fuck, we grab insect noises, a holiday theme, and mrsafetylion TM fireplace sfx. and that's it.

    I'm not just another hack or a wannabe, I'm the first ever mrsafetylion mr darkblue sir

    every time characters change clothes I want to give people a sense of imagination of what happened, they can imagine it's multiple days, hours, or even they just change clothes but I'm too lazy to animate people changing clothes, up to you

    Position ideas are not mine, it's Red's, you know the guy, fox who's always with Carmelita Fox porn fanarts here in e621

    She's Parentgant

    Also I caught you people who say the Voice actor here is bad, this literally uses Carmelita Fox's real voice and you still complained about it. Thus making ALL voice complains useless forever! hah! I'll get cheaper VA next time.

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    Well it was a fun read and comment, I went here thinking like a student sent to principal, but then going out thinking it was just a prank for a tv series, thus coming out feeling better and all. But sadly, I won't be commenting back in E621 unless someone starts a war because they didn't like the cum sfx or something. I'll be in Furaffinity everyone, message me on twitter or over there on how much you love barfing after getting nauseated on my TM Sail Boat cam.

    Have a happy holidays have a happy new year from MrSafetyClause, I got tons more projects coming in 2020 haha! I'm drowsing everyone in oil again in future animations if you still stay in e621 and not go to Furaffinity in my comments.

    Also pay me in Patreon so I can make my animations worse, hire worse VA's and increase the camera shake till it's just a blur of white screen while blasting loud waves sfx and wind and hire worse writers, so i can chill in my expensive mansion built on patreon money so I can ignore people like darkblue

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  • Oh look, Safety noticed me, and everyone else complaing about his animations. I guess this warrants a reaction of my own.

    And geez, I thought I sounded like a man on a mission when I was drunk. But nope, it all boils down to "It's not me, it's my minions!" I guess it's at least a little less obvious than listening to CEOs trying to convince their disgruntled consumer base that just because they sell them shit, doesn't make them bad people.

    And yeah, I realise I'm a negative, frustrated person. And all my joy is derived from making people in the comments feel like they too should be miserable. That also sounds convincing. In fact it's so convincing, I don't even need to tell you why it's convincing. Just look at my earlier posts, and see for yourself. It's obviously the whole point of my earlier statements!

    But in all seriousness, I get it. I'm harsh, I'm angry, I might even come off as a troll. And looking back at what I've said, I do feel a little bad. I don't think I said anything too wrong, maybe aside from the "money and art don't go together"-quote, which I took the opportunity and rephrased myself. I just feel a little bad for loading it all on Safety. He's right, it's not just him. He's just a figurehead in all of this. His part of the deal is actually what annoys me the least in these animations. As for everything else... Well, maybe he should think about remodelling his ship?

    But maybe I shouldn't be so gung ho about this. After all, it's just porn, as some people have already stated. The big difference between this and most porn is that there's a price on it, both for Safety and his commissioners. Are you really satisfied with this level of quality for what you're getting? It might come off as strange for a beggar to sound like a chooser, but I never wanted for Safety to do anything different. I just wanted him to do it justice, for those it's meant for! And since this is put out for the masses to see, it's obviously meant for us all!

    So let me just take a moment here and point out what I think needs to be done better. Not the things that are servicable, like the basic animation and the voice acting; nor the stylistic choices like positions or scenarios. But the things that needs to be done better.

    First, the shaky cam:
    Yes, the shaky cam does hide some of the monotony in the way that the characters move, and I won't fault it for its intended purpose. It's part of classic cinema to use these tricks to fool the eyes into seeing things as something different than what it is, whether it be forced perspective or stop-motion. But I have NEVER seen anyone use shaky cam to such an extreme, and for good reason. This is the sort of stuff that can cause nausea, like the movement version of epilepsy. The solution? Tone it down a few notches! It'll still do what it's meant to do, and it won't be so annoying or downright sickening to watch!

    Second, the language:
    I feel like this has been getting better as of late, and I'll give credit to that. But my memories are still strong when it comes to Sly and Carmelita's vacation, and the broken English they used. "Ah, Carmelita Fox" over and over... That sort of stuff is just not acceptable if you want your audience to keep their sound on. And speaking of...

    Third, the SFX:
    This is by far my biggest point of comtempt with Safety's animations. Mostly because whoever or whatever is in charge of the sounds, they just don't seem to know what they're doing! It has varied greatly in its lack of quality, whether it's missing SFX, obnoxious SFX, or overwhelming SFX that even drowns out what the characters are saying, there's just no end to the depths to which it plunges! Seriously Safety, if you've actually hired someone to do this for you, you should fire them! And if you haven't, find someone who knows what they're doing, for the love of Satan!

    But while it's true that I can be obsessive and beligerant at times, I still try to assume some form of reason within my limited capabilities. Maybe I am just a bit too fixated on this for my own good, and for the good of others. But I can only say what comes natural. And if the repeating discussions that spawn in my wake, or outside of it, are any indications, I can't be completely wrong. But I will accept that I'm not the master of the Universe on anything that goes here, nor is anyone else. So please, take everything I say with a pinch of salt. Especially since I have a habit of impulsive behavior... and a history of being stupid. Just don't you dare make me out to be a villain! I'm far too insignificant for that to be true.

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  • DarkBlue666 said:
    Oh look, Safety noticed me, and everyone else complaing about his animations. I guess this warrants a reaction of my own.

    And geez, I thought I sounded like a man on a mission when I was drunk. But nope, it all boils down to "It's not me, it's my minions!" I guess it's at least a little less obvious than listening to CEOs trying to convince their disgruntled consumer base that just because they sell them shit, doesn't make them bad people.

    And yeah, I realise I'm a negative, frustrated person. And all my joy is derived from making people in the comments feel like they too should be miserable. That also sounds convincing. In fact it's so convincing, I don't even need to tell you why it's convincing. Just look at my earlier posts, and see for yourself. It's obviously the whole point of my earlier statements!

    But in all seriousness, I get it. I'm harsh, I'm angry, I might even come off as a troll. And looking back at what I've said, I do feel a little bad. I don't think I said anything too wrong, maybe aside from the "money and art don't go together"-quote, which I took the opportunity and rephrased myself. I just feel a little bad for loading it all on Safety. He's right, it's not just him. He's just a figurehead in all of this. His part of the deal is actually what annoys me the least in these animations. As for everything else... Well, maybe he should think about remodelling his ship?

    But maybe I shouldn't be so gung ho about this. After all, it's just porn, as some people have already stated. The big difference between this and most porn is that there's a price on it, both for Safety and his commissioners. Are you really satisfied with this level of quality for what you're getting? It might come off as strange for a beggar to sound like a chooser, but I never wanted for Safety to do anything different. I just wanted him to do it justice, for those it's meant for! And since this is put out for the masses to see, it's obviously meant for us all!

    So let me just take a moment here and point out what I think needs to be done better. Not the things that are servicable, like the basic animation and the voice acting; nor the stylistic choices like positions or scenarios. But the things that needs to be done better.

    First, the shaky cam:
    Yes, the shaky cam does hide some of the monotony in the way that the characters move, and I won't fault it for its intended purpose. It's part of classic cinema to use these tricks to fool the eyes into seeing things as something different than what it is, whether it be forced perspective or stop-motion. But I have NEVER seen anyone use shaky cam to such an extreme, and for good reason. This is the sort of stuff that can cause nausea, like the movement version of epilepsy. The solution? Tone it down a few notches! It'll still do what it's meant to do, and it won't be so annoying or downright sickening to watch!

    Second, the language:
    I feel like this has been getting better as of late, and I'll give credit to that. But my memories are still strong when it comes to Sly and Carmelita's vacation, and the broken English they used. "Ah, Carmelita Fox" over and over... That sort of stuff is just not acceptable if you want your audience to keep their sound on. And speaking of...

    Third, the SFX:
    This is by far my biggest point of comtempt with Safety's animations. Mostly because whoever or whatever is in charge of the sounds, they just don't seem to know what they're doing! It has varied greatly in its lack of quality, whether it's missing SFX, obnoxious SFX, or overwhelming SFX that even drowns out what the characters are saying, there's just no end to the depths to which it plunges! Seriously Safety, if you've actually hired someone to do this for you, you should fire them! And if you haven't, find someone who knows what they're doing, for the love of Satan!

    But while it's true that I can be obsessive and beligerant at times, I still try to assume some form of reason within my limited capabilities. Maybe I am just a bit too fixated on this for my own good, and for the good of others. But I can only say what comes natural. And if the repeating discussions that spawn in my wake, or outside of it, are any indications, I can't be completely wrong. But I will accept that I'm not the master of the Universe on anything that goes here, nor is anyone else. So please, take everything I say with a pinch of salt. Especially since I have a habit of impulsive behavior... and a history of being stupid. Just don't you dare make me out to be a villain! I'm far too insignificant for that to be true.

    Right, I'm smashed beyond belief, but I can't believe you guys would downvote me so much. C'mon! I'm just trying to give some advice in an abrasive, not overly friendly way. What's so bad about that?! XD

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  • Foxxynight said:
    You realize actual sex typically has little noise? It's the bed or the person who make all the noise.

    but this is cartoon porn. it's symbolic, so people can have diverse wants

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  • blodhgarm92 said:
    I wasn't "Implying you were wrong". I simply said you are making it sound way worse than it really is. If you don't want people to imply you of something, don't do the same in return. Calling the kettle black there, ain't ya bub?

    Also..."Money and art don't go together." You are saying that an artist shouldn't be allowed to charge for their work if they want? So....I guess that means musicians shouldn't get paid for producing the songs/albums they do and should just give their music out for free. I am guessing game developers should just make games for free and just give them away instead of charging people money for them. Gtfo with that bull. You sound like one of them r/entitledchildren who demand artists to commission work for them for free and in return will pay them in "exposure to those who follow me".

    These people who say "money and art don't mix" is irritating, We have to earn cash to be able to pay electricity bills to use computers or any electronics to do animated shit. Also Paper art supplies are expensive as Fuck. Why do people expect art to be free? I am tired of people asking me and other artist to draw them free art. I need to be able to earn money for art supplies.

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  • armoredace666 said:
    These people who say "money and art don't mix" is irritating

    Irritating? No. Utterly maddening.
    Anyone who claims "money and art don't mix" with any sort of sincerity is a complete imbecile.

    Consider the following: Until the Dadaist movement in the 1920s (literally, anti-art), the overwhelming majority of renowned art works throughout history were commissioned and fairly expensive to produce.

    Keeping also in mind that 'art' can be anything from the Frescoes of the Byzantine Empire to the Louvre, to include every Wonder of the Ancient world.

    To put that into even clearer focus, Dadaism started in the 1920s in Germany; humanity has been making commissioned art since the pyramids in ~5000 B.C.
    (the Pyramids were extraordinarily elaborate mausoleums for Egyptian/Nubian Pharaohs. This isn't speculative either, as we have found ancient bill-of-sale tablets showing years of payment for their construction. Contrary to popular myth, the pyramids of Giza were not built by slaves but ny professionals who were paid in silver and beer)

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