Why did they remove the cuntboy tag? Was it deemed too offensive?

athlone1982 said:
Why did they remove the cuntboy tag? Was it deemed too offensive?

Tumblrites gonna tumblr

watr said:
Tumblrites gonna tumblr

I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

athlone1982 said:
Why did they remove the cuntboy tag? Was it deemed too offensive?

Sooooort of, but not entirely. Sometimes it was offensive, sometimes it just seemed inaccurate or imprecise, but in general the gender tagging system just needed some work. "Andromorph" is being used in the hope that it's pretty neutral, purely descriptive of a physical figure, and doesn't have too much baggage... Buuuut now we have people uploading -anything- and tagging it "andromorph" because they don't look up what the tag means and just confuse it with "anthropomorphic" somehow lmao.

I wish I had suggested making her breasts less subtle now. I wasn’t expecting the confusion to be this bad. I’m sorry all. This is supposed to be a FemBugs but I wanted some flat justice.

reduxdrawer8k said:
That what happen when people try to change something to not offend anyone. You end up making it even more confusing. The cuntboy tag was straight forward and easy to understand. So it won't get confused with flat chested, tomboys.

The "cuntboy" tag couldn't really be a great fit for -both- MtF characters and "just born that way" andromorph characters. And believe me, I ran into gender tagging issues more than once with my lizard 'sona, even when the image had 'em fully clothed. Images like this would've probably gotten tagged "cuntboy" anyway (hell, the line between a cuntboy and a flat-chested tomboy seems pretty blurry to me in general, but then again I'm one of those "gender is fucky" SJW types, so).

reduxdrawer8k said:
That what happen when people try to change something to not offend anyone. You end up making it even more confusing. The cuntboy tag was straight forward and easy to understand. So it won't get confused with flat chested, tomboys.

Like I said next time I’ll make it a little less subtle so you can recognize that she’s female.

the_mechaneer said:
Is that also why gynomorph was introduced? Because that honestly felt like someone was trolling me by making another tag for that futa crap to get around my blacklist.

Yup!

i am upset

I am offended that I didn't get offended!

critical_stiban said:
I wish I had suggested making her breasts less subtle now. I wasn’t expecting the confusion to be this bad. I’m sorry all. This is supposed to be a FemBugs but I wanted some flat justice.

FLAT RULE 63 IS STILL RULE 63! flat justice. *puts fist up*

mudora said:
FLAT RULE 63 IS STILL RULE 63! flat justice. *puts fist up*

Heyooooo

davepetasprite said:
CURSED

Don’t knock it till you try it. I commissioned this as a joke but I’m in love with this.

jellyslugg said:
Trans people found it offensive, trans people exist outside of tumblr, trans people want to see themselves in media without encountering this shit, nobody uses tumblr anymore. The new term is

andromorph

I've done you all a favor

So, you make a change that in the end will not matter in the long run because people are most likely here for porn, all you did was mess with the tag because people got upset by a picture on the internet. What did you really accomplish?

You didn't do anyone any favors. You made no change in the world.

mr.gamerfur said:
So, you make a change that in the end will not matter in the long run because people are most likely here for porn, all you did was mess with the tag because people got upset by a picture on the internet. What did you really accomplish?

You didn't do anyone any favors. You made no change in the world.

I agree. "Cuntboy" and "Dickgirl" was as straight forward as straight forward goes and never confused people like these new tags do.

deitarion said:
I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

That's the best one yet

The cuntboy tag never bothered me (hell, I call myself that because it fits me personally), but if it bothered others then I'm fine with the change. Either way people are going to complain so might as well pick the more polite option. Besides, it doesn't take that much brainpower to learn a couple of new words.

Uh anyway the art is very nice, 10/10 cummed in pant :)

Yall really don't use this site much at all if you think cuntboy and dickgirl were being used correctly before. It was a daily argument over what counted as what. Because these words specifically had "girl" and "boy" in the name it often made character owners angry too, as it seemed to trample over what they intended. The redo of the tags honestly had nothing to do with offense or upsetting trans people, because come on, they'll get offended no matter what. This change was to save the sanity of the mods. They had to create their own defined tag, because people from other sites whined that they used "futa" different over there and bla bla bla and true herm this and shit. And the flat chested females getting tagged cuntboy was constant too. Like here, visually yes, cuntboy, artist intent? No. Now there's conflict. Andromorph doesn't cause that problem. The character isn't being called male. That's why the new tags are better.

But hey, why let the mods win, and sleep and smile? Let's continue to shit up comments sections about how we're mad about the change and how only tumblerinas care so much, even though we're the ones stomping our feet over it. Let's undo all the peace the team gave themselves. Because we are assholes. And not the good kind.

Also, neat art. But to see actual female bugs and not just bugs in drag is so weird.

why are people kicking up shit over the tag changes?
why does making things less offensive send you people into a frenzy?

Most of this thread is a TL;DR moment (I can't believe I wasted 3 minutes of surfing e621 to read a comment on a damn tag)

If you want to comment on this please don’t further fuel the drama. It’s FemBugs. Crossgender. I’m the commissioner here. Further commissions from this point on from me with her will have her chest be a lot less subtle. I’d appreciate it if you comment on something other than the tagging.

closetpossum said:
CURSED

My first thought also

cuix said:
Yup!

Couldn't this all be solved with mtf and ftm tags?

I KNEW IT!

cutest_bunny said:
Couldn't this all be solved with mtf and ftm tags?

You are right and the people voting you down need to really have a good hard think about this. YES; I'm aware that the image here is a "fem-version" of Bugs, but the comments here have opened up discussion for a very important subject:

Trans-men deserve to be tagged by something that doesn't just reduce them to a fetishization of thier genitals. They deserve to be able to fap to the same images cis-people do without having to type in a word that they don't use and identify with. I've been with a lot of trans-men and while I absolutely cannot speak for all trans-men, the ones I know have NEVER referred to their vulva as cunt. He may call my ass a bussy, but he's fucking me with his cock and I'm sucking his dick, even if it doesn't look like mine.
Gay sex with an FTM guy is hot af, but you treat that dude with goddamn respect and acknowledge that you're not fucking a "cuntboi", you're having sex with a grown-ass MAN.

Peace.

Never thought I'd be turned on by Bugs with a vag, but now I am intrigued... Also makes sense why Bugs was in women's clothing so much in the shows, lol!!

user_905690 said:
Oh, how edgy of you. You are 100% the kind of person who in high school would try to start arguments with the teachers for no reason just so you could get attention.
Also, isn't it kind of strange that you are commenting this on a website that has a high percentage of LGBTQ+ (users and content) and in a fandom that has an even larger percentage of LGBTQ+ people. You might have joined the wrong community if your going to act like it's still 1930 where it was okay to act like.... that.

Or maybe most people are here for porn and not politics

venicdragon said:
Never thought I'd be turned on by Bugs with a vag, but now I am intrigued... Also makes sense why Bugs was in women's clothing so much in the shows, lol!!

As stated before that was a part of the point with this commission. Originally a joke commission I actually did get more of FemBugs because of how good this turned out. A shame the comment section became a political warzone. I just wanted some good old fashion rule 63 with a flat chest. Made the chest a lot less subtle from here on out.

fuzzynumbers said:
You are right and the people voting you down need to really have a good hard think about this. YES; I'm aware that the image here is a "fem-version" of Bugs, but the comments here have opened up discussion for a very important subject:

Trans-men deserve to be tagged by something that doesn't just reduce them to a fetishization of thier genitals. They deserve to be able to fap to the same images cis-people do without having to type in a word that they don't use and identify with. I've been with a lot of trans-men and while I absolutely cannot speak for all trans-men, the ones I know have NEVER referred to their vulva as cunt. He may call my ass a bussy, but he's fucking me with his cock and I'm sucking his dick, even if it doesn't look like mine.
Gay sex with an FTM guy is hot af, but you treat that dude with goddamn respect and acknowledge that you're not fucking a "cuntboi", you're having sex with a grown-ass MAN.

Peace.

That is absolutely true and correct and why mtf/ftm lore tags exist and are worth including. However, there are also many characters that are masculine-presenting and primarily male-bodied, but who have a vagina. They are not ftm; that's just how the character is designed from the start and it's implied that they were "born that way". For such a character, the ftm tag would be simply incorrect, and "andromorph" is the correct tag here. But people hate learning a new word if it means they can't fap-search for "cuntboy", and it's easier to whine about something something politics trans agenda whatever rather than actually think for five seconds straight.

When I first looked at this picture I cringe so hard I laughed

deitarion said:
"vagentleman"

Lmao

critical_stiban said:
Like I said next time I’ll make it a little less subtle so you can recognize that she’s female.

One word: Nipples.
Lewd art in general on this site usually identifies a male (or as you might, cuntboy) by having no nipples, unless the character is quite explicitly masculine with pecs, or etc.

luceox30 said:
One word: Nipples.
Lewd art in general on this site usually identifies a male (or as you might, cuntboy) by having no nipples, unless the character is quite explicitly masculine with pecs, or etc.

Alright I’ll think of that next time. Thank you.

luceox30 said:
One word: Nipples.
Lewd art in general on this site usually identifies a male (or as you might, cuntboy) by having no nipples, unless the character is quite explicitly masculine with pecs, or etc.

Wish I could show that I took your advice for my next comm but the angle makes it impossible to see.

critical_stiban said:
Wish I could show that I took your advice for my next comm but the angle makes it impossible to see.

Then take it with the next one where they would be visible! There's no worry with that.

This is actually how I prefer any of my female ocs. I love how it looks here.

luceox30 said:
Then take it with the next one where they would be visible! There's no worry with that.

Here’s the Commission by the way. Even has an alt with it.

post #3170065

deitarion said:
I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

that's actually way better

critical_stiban said:
Here’s the Commission by the way. Even has an alt with it.

post #3170065

thats really hot, really wished more people commissioned bugs like that!

This probably happened or will happen eventually, with how many times he cross-dressed throughout the shows

*loads double barrel and plays life could be a dream* we can't expect god to do all the work.

leperv666 said:
When I first looked at this picture I cringe so hard I laughed

is this that 'they/them puthy' daffy was talking about

I hate that I can hear this in his voice

closetpossum said:
CURSED

CURSED, 2 years ago, got neutral for it too.

2 years later; Now I see things differently.
2 years later and now I think this is kinda...charming!
It's almost up my alley now. I like femboys, it's just missing the boy part.
But it's girly enough that I like it.

"gynomorph" SUCKS. I feel like I'm looking through the most boring seed catalogue ever when I type it in

Bugs Cunny

Shouldn't this be tagged 'andromorph'? Another incorrect tag locking fail.

deejaydragon said:
Shouldn't this be tagged 'andromorph'? Another incorrect tag locking fail.

Commissioner here. It’s a crossgender. Again the regret on me just wanting flat justice. Im surprised this is still getting traction and is an issue.

Edit: Oh no wonder it’s gotten so much traction. Order Score shows it’s in 7th place as the highest rated Bugs pics in general. Man to think a joke pic managed to get this far.

closetpossum said:
CURSED, 2 years ago, got neutral for it too.

2 years later; Now I see things differently.
2 years later and now I think this is kinda...charming!
It's almost up my alley now. I like femboys, it's just missing the boy part.
But it's girly enough that I like it.

The character development.

deitarion said:
I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

Hello I'm Monicalgental sir. How do you do.

pickled_relish said:
Hello I'm Monicalgental sir. How do you do.

I think this is my favorite joke out of this post here.

Man this feels wrong... This IS wrong...

Love the anatomy here, especially for a female Bugs! I always appreciate subtle genderbends like this. Lovely work! 💙

deitarion said:
I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

Penile_princess would be good for the girl one

Not female enough 2/10

the_grey_savig said:
andromorph, can someone at this tag it is the correct tag for this picture as far as I understand the definition used for this tag

Hello! Commissioner here! Checking the tag history shows that Andromorph is a locked tag that cannot be added. Due to me commissioning and failing to have it be properly portrayed that she’s female in this picture, because my god I’m a putz who didn’t think it through enough, it caused quite a bit of headache. The intention is that she’s female. I’ve even commissioned a further picture of her being female. Any further commissions beyond this one will have her properly portrayed as a female. I hope you understand what’s going on and why it’s like this. I love the picture so much that it’s my current pfp but me wanting flat justice was a mistake. I’m sorry for disappointing but this is how it is.

To quote Rylanor above you? “Not female enough.”

critical_stiban said:
Hello! Commissioner here! Checking the tag history shows that Andromorph is a locked tag that cannot be added. Due to me commissioning and failing to have it be properly portrayed that she’s female in this picture, because my god I’m a putz who didn’t think it through enough, it caused quite a bit of headache. The intention is that she’s female. I’ve even commissioned a further picture of her being female. Any further commissions beyond this one will have her properly portrayed as a female. I hope you understand what’s going on and why it’s like this. I love the picture so much that it’s my current pfp but me wanting flat justice was a mistake. I’m sorry for disappointing but this is how it is.

To quote Rylanor above you? “Not female enough.”

Nothing true'er could be said. It's time to lay down this silly discussion and simply enjoy the art. Porn is porn and that is that.

deitarion said:
I've seen one artist use "vagentleman" if that's any better. :P

That was me, you're welcome uwu

smash?

tamarha said:
smash?

Smash

At least it won't count as crossdressing now :P

At least add a tag so that people can blacklist this. Not everyone is into this.

palasa said:
At least add a tag so that people can blacklist this. Not everyone is into this.

I’d appreciate that you’d either tag it yourself or imply what tag. If it’s andromorph? Tag is locked to never be added cause of the discourse. Simply because she’s not andromorph.

palasa said:
At least add a tag so that people can blacklist this. Not everyone is into this.

I believe crossgender is the tag you wish to blacklist then. If that's too much then I believe your problem is already solved. Ignore the post and move on.

critical_stiban said:
Hello! Commissioner here! Checking the tag history shows that Andromorph is a locked tag that cannot be added. Due to me commissioning and failing to have it be properly portrayed that she’s female in this picture, because my god I’m a putz who didn’t think it through enough, it caused quite a bit of headache. The intention is that she’s female. I’ve even commissioned a further picture of her being female. Any further commissions beyond this one will have her properly portrayed as a female. I hope you understand what’s going on and why it’s like this. I love the picture so much that it’s my current pfp but me wanting flat justice was a mistake. I’m sorry for disappointing but this is how it is.

To quote Rylanor above you? “Not female enough.”

it not that she is not female enough, it that bugs bunny is a male character in all Official works. and I don't see the mtf_crossgender tag when I first Commented. I do think it is a good pice of art.