Oh DIVINES this is so gorgeous! I love your art <3

damn it now i kinda wanna see this go further

Wonderful clip, I eagerly anticipate this one!!! Then again, I always eagerly anticipate new Bloodhawk animations!

As per usual stuff like this really needs the teaser tag added to make it easier to filter out.

kakkarot said:
A bit lackluster but its always nice to see new content from BH

Even if this one doesn't do it for ya, there's still lots to look forward to.
The full release of CS: Survival Training will be up soon, & the dawg animation is almost finished as well :3

furrybronypervguy said:
Wonderful clip, I eagerly anticipate this one!!! Then again, I always eagerly anticipate new Bloodhawk animations!

we all do

Anyone got the full animation?

We gonna have to wait months again?

My only Problem is subscribestar only allows credit card and no debit card and where i live its pretty impossible to get a credit card soo i cant really spent anything to see all the other content would be nice if theres a way to subscribe without a credit card and maybe instead paypal like sooo many other support websites do just take it into consideration because this way you would make way more money with it plus people can actually enjoy your content too just a suggestion

Ooh, this looks like it's going to be a good one~
Anticipating!

When is it going to be released on this page ? I can’t wait to see this amazing job :3

When is it going to be released on this page ? I can’t wait to see this amazing job :3

I really want to pay but I don’t want to pay through Subscribestar, do you have an alternative?

Cannot wait for the release.

fanethehyena said:
My only Problem is subscribestar only allows credit card and no debit card and where i live its pretty impossible to get a credit card soo i cant really spent anything to see all the other content would be nice if theres a way to subscribe without a credit card and maybe instead paypal like sooo many other support websites do just take it into consideration because this way you would make way more money with it plus people can actually enjoy your content too just a suggestion

Unfortunately it isn't an option, due to Paypal's policies on certain content.

story.com said:
I really want to pay but I don’t want to pay through Subscribestar, do you have an alternative?

It's currently the only platform Mr Bird uses. That could possibly change in the future.
But for now he's very happy with SubscribeStar.
As regulations on Patreon become more & more anti-creator, many artists are switching to it.

idontcarem8 said:
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THANK YOU~!!

Will you ever post the full thing?

Yay, we needed more females in this series too!

Awww how cuwte

davon074 said:
Will you ever post the full thing?

Yup. It'll be up on here for everyone once the next one is finished.
Which will either be the "Dawg" animation or episode 2 of Camp Sun Survival

Hope you add the full version here one day

overshabby said:
Y’all are pedos fr.

Poor little white knight thinks they are something special by saying that. Use the blacklist & move on, and how about you report this art & everyone who's put a like on it to the FBI or something, since you are so holier-than-thou.

welp just from this 30 second clip i can done tell this will replace "zachs dinner date part 2" as my fav animation of yours lol

overshabby said:
Y’all are pedos fr.

Good job on that speedrun of being the most 'unwanted' person on e621, or the furry community.

Enough with this waiting months shit!

nice

alchemical said:
Do the thing you do with daddy

please seek help.

When is full release of this one

baxter117 said:
When is full release of this one

Whenever another new full one gets released for subscribestar members, who knows when that'd be

This I a Lil to much for my taste

dacobraman said:
Whenever another new full one gets released for subscribestar members, who knows when that'd be

There are currently 4 projects in development. Which one finishes first depends on voice actress/actor availability.
Which is the usual culprit for hold-ups

drucifer said:
There are currently 4 projects in development. Which one finishes first depends on voice actress/actor availability.
Which is the usual culprit for hold-ups

As it is with BH's works, when something new goes live for the subscibestar members, then we usually get whenever the previous one released is publically. And hopefully it won't be too much longer until then

Ufff las mamis son lo máximo 7w7

overshabby said:
How are you all finding this hot when this is a literal toddler getting sucked off. ☠️

In the furry community, sexually heinous offenses are considered especially based.

dacobraman said:
Whenever another new full one gets released for subscribestar members, who knows when that'd be

Its annoying to wait for soooo long, instead of just to release it after 1 month

king_eevee said:
Its annoying to wait for soooo long, instead of just to release it after 1 month

Yes indeed, and some time ago (last year) quite a few people here kicked off in the comments section of a preview for zach's dinner date 2, because it has taken well over a month, nearly 2 for the full one to come out. And then even though the next full one hadn't been released for subscribestar members yet at the time, the full one of that said animation was released in full because we had to wait so long. Only way it'd happen again is if enough people did kick off again (it was good & respectful mind you, me being one of the people who voiced their concerns) or the voice actors being able to complete their works for the animation that comes next. So yes, it would still be some time before we get this next full one i'd say, and this rather long wait time is getting rather old by now again.

dacobraman said:
Yes indeed, and some time ago (last year) quite a few people here kicked off in the comments section of a preview for zach's dinner date 2, because it has taken well over a month, nearly 2 for the full one to come out. And then even though the next full one hadn't been released for subscribestar members yet at the time, the full one of that said animation was released in full because we had to wait so long. Only way it'd happen again is if enough people did kick off again (it was good & respectful mind you, me being one of the people who voiced their concerns) or the voice actors being able to complete their works for the animation that comes next. So yes, it would still be some time before we get this next full one i'd say, and this rather long wait time is getting rather old by now again.

There should just be a maximum amount of wait before it gets posted, period. Maybe a month or one and a half. Only posting it after seeing "enough" negative backlash is such a shitty thing to do tho, in my opinion. Especially when the problem just keeps on beeing repeated.
This tells me that the negativity is definetly seen, but it isn't used to improve but it is seen as a "Limit" of how far this wait can be dragged out. The idea itself is fine on paper but this execution leaves kind of a lot to desire.

sparkchu01 said:
There should just be a maximum amount of wait before it gets posted, period. Maybe a month or one and a half. Only posting it after seeing "enough" negative backlash is such a shitty thing to do tho, in my opinion. Especially when the problem just keeps on beeing repeated.
This tells me that the negativity is definetly seen, but it isn't used to improve but it is seen as a "Limit" of how far this wait can be dragged out. The idea itself is fine on paper but this execution leaves kind of a lot to desire.

Not sure as to who would have downvoted me on an unrelated note, but it seems i'd been misunderstood by someone thinking it's alright to be waiting this long, which it isn't after waiting 2 months now. i was just stating what had happened before, a lot of others had gotten fed up with the wait, and i am sure many are now. I was not saying it is alright to be waiting, i was just stating what happened last time & how BH works. Another piece has to be completed before something else goes public, even if it is a wait of a couple of months or more, because of another animation not being ready yet. Have to keep that bit of exclusivity for his subscribstar members it would seem. And you are right, there should be a maximum waiting time before whatever the animation goes live, even if another isn't done to give the paying members an extra as it were. It keeps happening with him, and that's how it will stay which is quite a shame, which should not happen either. Only way we'd get the full one to get posted here is if we speak up loud enough & enough of us do, but it'd only happen for this individual one, but his ways (Bloodhawk) of keeping that one exclusive for paying members, even if the public is forced to wait far too long. It's been a month more than the wait should have been, which is being generous. But having to wait another month, is just not on. Too long it is, so hopefully Drucifer can relay this information to Bloodhawk, and tell him to get it released, as it has been too long a wait for the public version. 2 months is not acceptable, he keeps pushing it as you have mentioned & has for years. But that is just how BH works it seems, he'll keep on doing it, exactly as you have said. Does not improve, does not set a baseline for public releases even if there isn't another animation ready for subscribestar exclusive viewing, a vicious cycle which he keeps on repeating, over & over, once again as you have said. Quite a shame too, as he is a good artist, but the things stated are just not on. And his ways just don't change. A shame this needs to be said about him, but someone needs to say it, addressing BH's less than desirable waiting periods. Putting it lightly.

dacobraman said:
Not sure as to who would have downvoted me on an unrelated note, but it seems i'd been misunderstood by someone thinking it's alright to be waiting this long, which it isn't after waiting 2 months now. i was just stating what had happened before, a lot of others had gotten fed up with the wait, and i am sure many are now. I was not saying it is alright to be waiting, i was just stating what happened last time & how BH works. Another piece has to be completed before something else goes public, even if it is a wait of a couple of months or more, because of another animation not being ready yet. Have to keep that bit of exclusivity for his subscribstar members it would seem. And you are right, there should be a maximum waiting time before whatever the animation goes live, even if another isn't done to give the paying members an extra as it were. It keeps happening with him, and that's how it will stay which is quite a shame, which should not happen either. Only way we'd get the full one to get posted here is if we speak up loud enough & enough of us do, but it'd only happen for this individual one, but his ways (Bloodhawk) of keeping that one exclusive for paying members, even if the public is forced to wait far too long. It's been a month more than the wait should have been, which is being generous. But having to wait another month, is just not on. Too long it is, so hopefully Drucifer can relay this information to Bloodhawk, and tell him to get it released, as it has been too long a wait for the public version. 2 months is not acceptable, he keeps pushing it as you have mentioned & has for years. But that is just how BH works it seems, he'll keep on doing it, exactly as you have said. Does not improve, does not set a baseline for public releases even if there isn't another animation ready for subscribestar exclusive viewing, a vicious cycle which he keeps on repeating, over & over, once again as you have said. Quite a shame too, as he is a good artist, but the things stated are just not on. And his ways just don't change. A shame this needs to be said about him, but someone needs to say it, addressing BH's less than desirable waiting periods. Putting it lightly.

Its just getting annoying that only the next animation come out on public when the other animation is done like come one what if that next animation is very huge so we habe to wait half a yesr for a not long animation .
Like make it like other which bring out their animation for patreon or other sites to have them first and one week later for everyone, its not like it would be fair the way BH does it.

king_eevee said:
Its just getting annoying that only the next animation come out on public when the other animation is done like come one what if that next animation is very huge so we habe to wait half a yesr for a not long animation .
Like make it like other which bring out their animation for patreon or other sites to have them first and one week later for everyone, its not like it would be fair the way BH does it.

Indeed, and as stated he's been doing this for years now, putting out whatever the animation is publicly whenever another is completed, hence the "subscribestar exclusivity" thing. And who knows how long it'd take for whatever is next to be finished, we could end up waiting even months longer, you just don't know. Also, that some of these animations get released only because quite a few people speak up about this too long waiting period, and things only get posted it seems because BH has a fair bit of heat on him to do so, but only for that one instance. And there he goes back to normal, making the public wait over a month even, people end up speaking up, he might release whatever the animation is to get the heat off & the cycle repeats. He doesn't change his ways, only just temporarily to quell things. Which is rather sad, as he does great works & all the upvotes here, even on the previews show it. But alas, he will stubbornly stick to his ways, he just won't change. Some might think we are being greedy, but we are not. Having to wait over a month is not acceptable at all, keeping that exclusivity as it is. Of course, his works take a while, getting the VA's to do their part, getting the animation itself right, that is how it is & fair enough. But if there is a completed one out already, a month maximum is how long we should wait & that is being generous. No longer than that. It was the same with Zach's Dinner Date 2, you can see the comments i made on it's preview here, the exact same thing happened. People spoke up enough, BH posted the animation sooner though whatever other works hadn't been done yet, because we were waiting too long. The same might happen, but it will just be the same vicious cycle, of him not changing his ways. A good animator indeed he is, but with the stated issues, not perfect. Which is sad., and a shame.

dacobraman said:
Indeed, and as stated he's been doing this for years now, putting out whatever the animation is publicly whenever another is completed, hence the "subscribestar exclusivity" thing. And who knows how long it'd take for whatever is next to be finished, we could end up waiting even months longer, you just don't know. Also, that some of these animations get released only because quite a few people speak up about this too long waiting period, and things only get posted it seems because BH has a fair bit of heat on him to do so, but only for that one instance. And there he goes back to normal, making the public wait over a month even, people end up speaking up, he might release whatever the animation is to get the heat off & the cycle repeats. He doesn't change his ways, only just temporarily to quell things. Which is rather sad, as he does great works & all the upvotes here, even on the previews show it. But alas, he will stubbornly stick to his ways, he just won't change. Some might think we are being greedy, but we are not. Having to wait over a month is not acceptable at all, keeping that exclusivity as it is. Of course, his works take a while, getting the VA's to do their part, getting the animation itself right, that is how it is & fair enough. But if there is a completed one out already, a month maximum is how long we should wait & that is being generous. No longer than that. It was the same with Zach's Dinner Date 2, you can see the comments i made on it's preview here, the exact same thing happened. People spoke up enough, BH posted the animation sooner though whatever other works hadn't been done yet, because we were waiting too long. The same might happen, but it will just be the same vicious cycle, of him not changing his ways. A good animator indeed he is, but with the stated issues, not perfect. Which is sad., and a shame.

Imagine you pay for that every month just to barely get anything and yeah the zach's dinner date 2 waiting was so annoying to wait for so long that i hoped someone ever posted it on the internet, which is odd that nobody ever posts something about thag, its like he reports and makes them to delete it even after months which make no sense

king_eevee said:
Imagine you pay for that every month just to barely get anything and yeah the zach's dinner date 2 waiting was so annoying to wait for so long that i hoped someone ever posted it on the internet, which is odd that nobody ever posts something about thag, its like he reports and makes them to delete it even after months which make no sense

And honestly, though it shouldn't be done of course, i would not be surprised if someone ends up posting the latest animation themselves because of the rather long wait. And future ones in other places before BH does, after a month of waiting unless he or drucifer (who i'd say posts them on BH's behalf) does it within a month. As i'd mentioned before the waiting is just far too long, 2 months is not acceptable. Hopefully no-one does that, but yes it would not surprise me if someone did, after all this waiting.

dacobraman said:
And honestly, though it shouldn't be done of course, i would not be surprised if someone ends up posting the latest animation themselves because of the rather long wait. And future ones in other places before BH does, after a month of waiting unless he or drucifer (who i'd say posts them on BH's behalf) does it within a month. As i'd mentioned before the waiting is just far too long, 2 months is not acceptable. Hopefully no-one does that, but yes it would not surprise me if someone did, after all this waiting.

Thats the thing, even after 2 months people somehow never posted anything about any animations that hasnt been out for public even when it was done months ago

king_eevee said:
Thats the thing, even after 2 months people somehow never posted anything about any animations that hasnt been out for public even when it was done months ago

Yeah, hardly anyone here has said anything about it taking so long. And so we'll be made to wait however long we it'll be for it, that's just no good

dacobraman said:
Yeah, hardly anyone here has said anything about it taking so long. And so we'll be made to wait however long we it'll be for it, that's just no good

So lets spread it so other will start talking about that, BH should start doing those things monthly like every other artists or else he loses more interest

king_eevee said:
So lets spread it so other will start talking about that, BH should start doing those things monthly like every other artists or else he loses more interest

Really, good luck with that happening. People would have tried it before, and he still gets plenty of interest, there's not much of a chance of it being lost. You can see how much people like even the previews on here, so it'd take something huge to change him. For now, we can only hope that enough people speak up about this one here, to get it released as waiting two months is not on. But we'll have to keep waiting for who knows how much longer. People are getting restless, which isn't good after all this time.

drucifer said:
There are currently 4 projects in development. Which one finishes first depends on voice actress/actor availability.
Which is the usual culprit for hold-ups

Ah yes, the mortal enemy of any group based activity, from Dungeons & Dragons to school projects; conflicting schedules

carlosmedia321 said:
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A risky move there, posting that link which won't stay up for long. And that being what i were talking of before, someone was going to mention where it could be seen elsewhere in full, after we have been waiting 2 months now, only a matter of time before it happened. People are getting antsy, being made to wait for said amount of time. I'm not endorsing it getting posted publicly like that, though yes i'm not surprised it happened as i had mentioned before. 2 months is too long a wait, and with being made to wait that long, that's what happens- someone was bound to post it before BH did.

dacobraman said:
A risky move there, posting that link which won't stay up for long. And that being what i were talking of before, someone was going to mention where it could be seen elsewhere in full, after we have been waiting 2 months now, only a matter of time before it happened. People are getting antsy, being made to wait for said amount of time. I'm not endorsing it getting posted publicly like that, though yes i'm not surprised it happened as i had mentioned before. 2 months is too long a wait, and with being made to wait that long, that's what happens- someone was bound to post it before BH did.

Its not about that, its about you wait months for something that is already done just because he rather lets us wait till his next animation which might take so long, like which artist come with that stupid idea except him?

Also imaginr you pay monthly for patreon just to barely getting anything from him

carlosmedia321 said:
[redacted]

You're the best, BH should really stop doing the waiting game and believing that we're ok with that, yeah sure 1 month but not 2-3 months with an animtion that is already done

dacobraman said:
Really, good luck with that happening. People would have tried it before, and he still gets plenty of interest, there's not much of a chance of it being lost. You can see how much people like even the previews on here, so it'd take something huge to change him. For now, we can only hope that enough people speak up about this one here, to get it released as waiting two months is not on. But we'll have to keep waiting for who knows how much longer. People are getting restless, which isn't good after all this time.

We need to continue doing that, bothering till something changes, its not just like 5 people against all that, its surely over 50 people against Bloodhawks way to release them
He should do it like all the other artist, for patreon 1 or 2 weeks before sharing it to the public, you also pay monthly on patreon just to barely get stuff

king_eevee said:
We need to continue doing that, bothering till something changes, its not just like 5 people against all that, its surely over 50 people against Bloodhawks way to release them
He should do it like all the other artist, for patreon 1 or 2 weeks before sharing it to the public, you also pay monthly on patreon just to barely get stuff

Was just mentioning what i was due to the fact as soon as a moderator sees it, it'll be gone & the user would get into trouble. SO that person doing what they did, would be both for & against it. Against since it hasn't been put out officially & the like, posting content that is still paid content. But for it, as it has been far too long, as a month is the most we should wait & has been a bit over 2 months now, just not good enough at all. And of course people would have a go at people like saying that we don't care of about someone trying to make a living, leaking paid content & all that. The reason it was leaked, is we have been waiting far too long & BH just keeps making us wait with his subscribestar exclusivity, those paying members getting to have something just for them between releases. But he will keep doing what he does, the same attitude he has had for years now. All because there are many who like his work, must make it fine for us to wait this time. I wouldn't post it myself, but in a way it is a good thing someone posted it here. Lower quality, but is still the full thing. And BH brought it on himself, a month should be the most for waiting. If whatever the latest full thing isn't out by then, then he shouldn't be surprised if someone else posts it. Also ended up paying for the subscribestar thing, and all that has come out is a few more pages of the comic (up to page 26 as of the posting of this), along with working on another animation. Apart from those & some status updates, there hasn't been anything new. So yes, people might call us assholes for "supporting" piracy, but the wait is just too long as of now. A month should be the most for the wait, and if whatever other animation hasn't been done by then, he should get the most recent one posted regardless. I don't want to sound bad, but he brought it on himself, making us wait a couple months like this. So we have to keep it up, keep going on about it until something changes, who knows if it will, hopefully it does.

dacobraman said:
Was just mentioning what i was due to the fact as soon as a moderator sees it, it'll be gone & the user would get into trouble. SO that person doing what they did, would be both for & against it. Against since it hasn't been put out officially & the like, posting content that is still paid content. But for it, as it has been far too long, as a month is the most we should wait & has been a bit over 2 months now, just not good enough at all. And of course people would have a go at people like saying that we don't care of about someone trying to make a living, leaking paid content & all that. The reason it was leaked, is we have been waiting far too long & BH just keeps making us wait with his subscribestar exclusivity, those paying members getting to have something just for them between releases. But he will keep doing what he does, the same attitude he has had for years now. All because there are many who like his work, must make it fine for us to wait this time. I wouldn't post it myself, but in a way it is a good thing someone posted it here. Lower quality, but is still the full thing. And BH brought it on himself, a month should be the most for waiting. If whatever the latest full thing isn't out by then, then he shouldn't be surprised if someone else posts it. Also ended up paying for the subscribestar thing, and all that has come out is a few more pages of the comic (up to page 26 as of the posting of this), along with working on another animation. Apart from those & some status updates, there hasn't been anything new. So yes, people might call us assholes for "supporting" piracy, but the wait is just too long as of now. A month should be the most for the wait, and if whatever other animation hasn't been done by then, he should get the most recent one posted regardless. I don't want to sound bad, but he brought it on himself, making us wait a couple months like this. So we have to keep it up, keep going on about it until something changes, who knows if it will, hopefully it does.

i am with a VPN and temporal email, so i dont really care lol

carlosmedia321 said:
i am with a VPN and temporal email, so i dont really care lol

Fair enough there, so it wouldn't matter that much if that account of yours goes. People will say what they will, but you did what should have been done a month ago, even though the video quality is how it is, still the full video which is what matters.

dacobraman said:
Fair enough there, so it wouldn't matter that much if that account of yours goes. People will say what they will, but you did what should have been done a month ago, even though the video quality is how it is, still the full video which is what matters.

Are none of y’all concerned over the website named?

bluemoonstruckwolf said:
Are none of y’all concerned over the website named?

Yeah it is a dodgy website, a shame the video was uploaded there. And as i have said before, we have been waiting far too long, and though it was a bit of a gray area what that person did uploading the video here, at least it is not directly on the site. BH making us wait over 2 months now, that is too long. And yeah, i might get downvoted by saying this. But just being okay with waiting months for the works to come out, when it should be a month at most, that is not okay with being fine with waiting all this time. Not endorsing posting that content like that, but he did kind of bring it on himself. Having that exclusivity thing that BH does, making people wait over a month even if no new content has been made. The waiting cut-off should be a month at most. So yeah, say what you will, but those uploads happened (which again, should not have posted on that certain site) but at least that poster provided that link that does not go directly there.

dacobraman said:
Was just mentioning what i was due to the fact as soon as a moderator sees it, it'll be gone & the user would get into trouble. SO that person doing what they did, would be both for & against it. Against since it hasn't been put out officially & the like, posting content that is still paid content. But for it, as it has been far too long, as a month is the most we should wait & has been a bit over 2 months now, just not good enough at all. And of course people would have a go at people like saying that we don't care of about someone trying to make a living, leaking paid content & all that. The reason it was leaked, is we have been waiting far too long & BH just keeps making us wait with his subscribestar exclusivity, those paying members getting to have something just for them between releases. But he will keep doing what he does, the same attitude he has had for years now. All because there are many who like his work, must make it fine for us to wait this time. I wouldn't post it myself, but in a way it is a good thing someone posted it here. Lower quality, but is still the full thing. And BH brought it on himself, a month should be the most for waiting. If whatever the latest full thing isn't out by then, then he shouldn't be surprised if someone else posts it. Also ended up paying for the subscribestar thing, and all that has come out is a few more pages of the comic (up to page 26 as of the posting of this), along with working on another animation. Apart from those & some status updates, there hasn't been anything new. So yes, people might call us assholes for "supporting" piracy, but the wait is just too long as of now. A month should be the most for the wait, and if whatever other animation hasn't been done by then, he should get the most recent one posted regardless. I don't want to sound bad, but he brought it on himself, making us wait a couple months like this. So we have to keep it up, keep going on about it until something changes, who knows if it will, hopefully it does.

Also whats funny and sad that the animation, yes i watched it wasnt even worth waiting for over 2 months, hoping it would be more of that female but nope.
Ik you pay monthly for becoming almost nothing which is going into the way of scamming which is worse than people sharing the video they also paid for and thats not eve piracing
It would be if you made an illegal copy which isnt true.
So Bloodhawk i know you dont care about peoples wishes, only caring about money, better start treating your "fans" better and not letting them wait for short animations or animations in general or even comic pages like you got over 20 done for months just to post almost 2-5 per year. Get it together or you lose more people who pay for you and your "rent"

And what i love is how many people actually now try ro speak up about that problem.
1. People even upvoted our conversations
2. Even the one with the link comment is still up which is if it was forbidden it would've been deleted at the same day but nope its not.
I was worried about the link too, didnt cared about the quality
Just sad to see that people wait for month for a 5-6 min animation which as you saw at the "sneak peak video" they stay at that position for the rest of that video, hoping to see more pussy action from her (only her infront of him)

king_eevee said:
And what i love is how many people actually now try ro speak up about that problem.
1. People even upvoted our conversations
2. Even the one with the link comment is still up which is if it was forbidden it would've been deleted at the same day but nope its not.
I was worried about the link too, didnt cared about the quality
Just sad to see that people wait for month for a 5-6 min animation which as you saw at the "sneak peak video" they stay at that position for the rest of that video, hoping to see more pussy action from her (only her infront of him)

So this preview, is pretty much the whole thing. Aside from being a bit longer with the full version of course, along with that older female character that's been zach's dinner date 1 & 2 delivering a box to the house here too. Essentially, just a cut-down version of the full one, aren't missing out too much. And am pretty surprised the link hasn't been removed yet, guess any staff members with the abilities they need to do so haven't seen it yet. So, we'll see what happens to said link, and people should not be surprised if any supporter exclusive content gets posted after the one-month wait again, since many of us are fed up with this rather long wait.

dacobraman said:
So this preview, is pretty much the whole thing. Aside from being a bit longer with the full version of course, along with that older female character that's been zach's dinner date 1 & 2 delivering a box to the house here too. Essentially, just a cut-down version of the full one, aren't missing out too much. And am pretty surprised the link hasn't been removed yet, guess any staff members with the abilities they need to do so haven't seen it yet. So, we'll see what happens to said link, and people should not be surprised if any supporter exclusive content gets posted after the one-month wait again, since many of us are fed up with this rather long wait.

Also its almost been 3 months like fine let others wait for half a year just to get one single not worth waiting animation, i were hoping her at least doing stuff to her pussy or grinding on him but nope just a long sucking

king_eevee said:
Also its almost been 3 months like fine let others wait for half a year just to get one single not worth waiting animation, i were hoping her at least doing stuff to her pussy or grinding on him but nope just a long sucking

A fair while yes, and say what you will about the animation itself but the waiting period, as we keep saying, is far too long. And i bet we'll have to keep on waiting until the full one gets offically released & everyone will forget about this waiting, and he'll keep doing what he does. So there'll be no change at all, typical really.

dacobraman said:
A fair while yes, and say what you will about the animation itself but the waiting period, as we keep saying, is far too long. And i bet we'll have to keep on waiting until the full one gets offically released & everyone will forget about this waiting, and he'll keep doing what he does. So there'll be no change at all, typical really.

And if the animation comes out we need to continue doing that with every animation to have more people join us who also hate that very long useless waiting game from BH

king_eevee said:
And if the animation comes out we need to continue doing that with every animation to have more people join us who also hate that very long useless waiting game from BH

Do what can be done, otherwise the vicious cycle will continue. And the link for the video has now been removed of course, still surprised it took that long for it to be taken down too.

dacobraman said:
Do what can be done, otherwise the vicious cycle will continue. And the link for the video has now been removed of course, still surprised it took that long for it to be taken down too.

Sad how e621 has something against that i responded to his link comment, like since when do you get problems for talking to someone with a link, hahah sure its pirated, e621 people dont know what pirated is, e621 sadly gets worse and worse, deleting also peoples arts that isnt their standarts like a drawing you made when you started, while on rule34 its welcomed even the worst drawings.

drucifer said:
Yup. It'll be up on here for everyone once the next one is finished.
Which will either be the "Dawg" animation or episode 2 of Camp Sun Survival

Hah so never, good joke dude, keep making money by doing almost nothing

king_eevee said:
Hah so never, good joke dude, keep making money by doing almost nothing

It'll just be the same thing, he'll relay whatever information to BH & will still need to wait who knows how long for the full thing to appear. That link that showed up before, at least some people would have gotten to see the video before it was taken down, so they know what they'd be getting. And who knows, maybe that guy who put the link to the video before might again. Wouldn't surprise me, you could even say it needs to happen to get BH to get the proper version posted. Keep up the pressure so what needs to happen, happens.

king_eevee said:
Hah so never, good joke dude, keep making money by doing almost nothing

Really seems like they genuinely dont care if you dont pay. If they did they wouldnt wait forever to release.

As with all things eventually , they sellout and only do it for the money, not art for art's sake .

Id have more respect for BH if they were just honest instead of gaslighting their audiences that there is no better way.

Also these animations are not high quality, so one cant even argue a time sink.

Furry artists of all kinds generally speaking , (but not all), know that once you pay them you are fucked, and are forced to wait and hope they actually do it the art or whatever, that you paid for already. Heard tons of horror stories of people pay over 1k for a fursuit for example and still 4+ years since havent delivered a product.

In short people suck and if you're actively ignoring your fans, see how long you stay profitable or have a fanbase at all .

theradon420 said:
Really seems like they genuinely dont care if you dont pay. If they did they wouldnt wait forever to release.

As with all things eventually , they sellout and only do it for the money, not art for art's sake .

Id have more respect for BH if they were just honest instead of gaslighting their audiences that there is no better way.

Also these animations are not high quality, so one cant even argue a time sink.

Furry artists of all kinds generally speaking , (but not all), know that once you pay them you are fucked, and are forced to wait and hope they actually do it the art or whatever, that you paid for already. Heard tons of horror stories of people pay over 1k for a fursuit for example and still 4+ years since havent delivered a product.

In short people suck and if you're actively ignoring your fans, see how long you stay profitable or have a fanbase at all .

And whenever the full animation is released, everyone will forget about this horrendously long wait for it & act like nothing happened, continuing to sing BH's praises. And he will keep getting away with what he does, it will keep being the same thing. That person who kept leaking the low quality version of this full one, was a good thing they did. Because of the wait, hopefully someone else comes by & does it again, as this wait is just weak. Too long a time, with that honestly silly subscribestar exclusivity period making everyone wait like this. But hey, it odesn matter, he gets his money & that's all that matters. He keep getting people paying for it, and so long as he has enough of a revenue stream coming in, not much a reason to care. Then his little PR buddy drucifer keeps telling us what he does, which is not good enough. He needs to tell BH to pull his finger our of his arse, and get this thing posted here. Yeah, some will call us greedy, impatient people who clearly don't care about his income, but the issue is how long we are forced to wait, with absolutely no communication, pretty much virtually none at best. So we need to keep talking, kicking up enough of a stink here. But it only works for just the one time, and so BH keeps doing his thing. If only he himself would show up here & actually say in his own words what is going on, but i highly doubt that. Along with the continued way-too-lengthy-waits for the works here. He gets loads of likes, even on these previews. So that just reinforces the fact he wouldn't have to care much at all, because he gets plenty of income & support. So bugger-all difference will be made, by what is the vocal minority, being us. Even got his shills saying things like "Your work is always worth the wait", "Hey take your time we can wait", "Your fabulous art is always worth the wait" to name a few. If only something were to happen. So have fun waiting however many more months everyone, because we'll keep on waiting who knows how many more for it.

dacobraman said:
And whenever the full animation is released, everyone will forget about this horrendously long wait for it & act like nothing happened, continuing to sing BH's praises. And he will keep getting away with what he does, it will keep being the same thing. That person who kept leaking the low quality version of this full one, was a good thing they did. Because of the wait, hopefully someone else comes by & does it again, as this wait is just weak. Too long a time, with that honestly silly subscribestar exclusivity period making everyone wait like this. But hey, it odesn matter, he gets his money & that's all that matters. He keep getting people paying for it, and so long as he has enough of a revenue stream coming in, not much a reason to care. Then his little PR buddy drucifer keeps telling us what he does, which is not good enough. He needs to tell BH to pull his finger our of his arse, and get this thing posted here. Yeah, some will call us greedy, impatient people who clearly don't care about his income, but the issue is how long we are forced to wait, with absolutely no communication, pretty much virtually none at best. So we need to keep talking, kicking up enough of a stink here. But it only works for just the one time, and so BH keeps doing his thing. If only he himself would show up here & actually say in his own words what is going on, but i highly doubt that. Along with the continued way-too-lengthy-waits for the works here. He gets loads of likes, even on these previews. So that just reinforces the fact he wouldn't have to care much at all, because he gets plenty of income & support. So bugger-all difference will be made, by what is the vocal minority, being us. Even got his shills saying things like "Your work is always worth the wait", "Hey take your time we can wait", "Your fabulous art is always worth the wait" to name a few. If only something were to happen. So have fun waiting however many more months everyone, because we'll keep on waiting who knows how many more for it.

Imagine you pay monthly and get nothing for that, seems almost like scam to me

You see from time to time he gets less likes and loses more fams because of that bullshit, like come on would you pay 5-10$ a month just to get nothing? Even this animation on here with the babysitter isnt even worth the wait, wishing more than a stupid blowjob to be in that animation but nooooo and people should wait for just a blowjob scene?? Thats why i hate patreon, artists turn into greedy people

king_eevee said:
Imagine you pay monthly and get nothing for that, seems almost like scam to me

You see from time to time he gets less likes and loses more fams because of that bullshit, like come on would you pay 5-10$ a month just to get nothing? Even this animation on here with the babysitter isnt even worth the wait, wishing more than a stupid blowjob to be in that animation but nooooo and people should wait for just a blowjob scene?? Thats why i hate patreon, artists turn into greedy people

Maybe he does, but there are still tons of likes on here even with the previews. And hardly anyone says anything about the wait times, so it's like talking to a brick wall. And yes we still wait, just you & me are the only two properly vocal about it, and BH's PR guy drucifer still has not responded to all of this either, so there is no communication. And there is nothing on his subscribestar saying he'll release this full one to the public any time soon either, so the us poor plebs have to keen on waiting, or pay up. Which is just weak at this point. He should just get the full one released officially, and it seems that one person keeps doing it for us, doing far more than BH or is buddy drucifer does. A leaker has done more than the author themself, which is sad really. It shouldn't have to be though somewhat shady methods it gets released, but that person needs to come back & keep doing it. Yeah, what i'm saying isn't good to some, maybe even risky. I wouldn't be saying that person should be doing it if were under a month since release, but it beginning to get close to 2 months after it should have gone live. Which is pathetic really. All that needs to be done, is the full one to come out officially here. And then no-one will talk about the multi-month wait, will still constantly sing his praises still, enabling him to still force everyone to wait months for it. And our talk here will get buried & forgotten, and the vicious cycle of him not caring & raking in his cash will keep going. Nothing will change, and he'll keep making the poor people wait. Unless you pay up the cash. It would be beside the point if it were a low amount, it is a matter of principal. I only did so i could see what was going on, and apart from a couple of updates on other animations & some of the comic pages, nothing has happened. ANd everyone keeps singing like a bird at how good he is, pretty much saying he can make the non-payers wait months, that is what most of the comments equate to. About to cancel the subscription soon, as i only did to see what was going on, and not much has happened regarding this one. Just sad really, making the non-payers wait like this. A month is the most it should be, anything over that is not on. And quite frankly, many here are fed-up with it. For someone who does some good work, his communication to the public & making the public wait, is total rubbish.

As a shota I wanna get sucked like this

dacobraman said:
Maybe he does, but there are still tons of likes on here even with the previews. And hardly anyone says anything about the wait times, so it's like talking to a brick wall. And yes we still wait, just you & me are the only two properly vocal about it, and BH's PR guy drucifer still has not responded to all of this either, so there is no communication. And there is nothing on his subscribestar saying he'll release this full one to the public any time soon either, so the us poor plebs have to keen on waiting, or pay up. Which is just weak at this point. He should just get the full one released officially, and it seems that one person keeps doing it for us, doing far more than BH or is buddy drucifer does. A leaker has done more than the author themself, which is sad really. It shouldn't have to be though somewhat shady methods it gets released, but that person needs to come back & keep doing it. Yeah, what i'm saying isn't good to some, maybe even risky. I wouldn't be saying that person should be doing it if were under a month since release, but it beginning to get close to 2 months after it should have gone live. Which is pathetic really. All that needs to be done, is the full one to come out officially here. And then no-one will talk about the multi-month wait, will still constantly sing his praises still, enabling him to still force everyone to wait months for it. And our talk here will get buried & forgotten, and the vicious cycle of him not caring & raking in his cash will keep going. Nothing will change, and he'll keep making the poor people wait. Unless you pay up the cash. It would be beside the point if it were a low amount, it is a matter of principal. I only did so i could see what was going on, and apart from a couple of updates on other animations & some of the comic pages, nothing has happened. ANd everyone keeps singing like a bird at how good he is, pretty much saying he can make the non-payers wait months, that is what most of the comments equate to. About to cancel the subscription soon, as i only did to see what was going on, and not much has happened regarding this one. Just sad really, making the non-payers wait like this. A month is the most it should be, anything over that is not on. And quite frankly, many here are fed-up with it. For someone who does some good work, his communication to the public & making the public wait, is total rubbish.

Just to tell you its almost 3 months now and thats why i dont pay subs on patreon for reason happening like that.
And no our conversation and yelling about BH "scamming" people and making the others wait for months wont be burried we continue talking about it on other videos he posts like the new one nobody asked for and that isnt even the one video people waited for months, people should now see have he just used his fans, Sry but animation to do that and getring voice actors wouldn't take so long if you already have them
And using the excuse "i will post the one animation when the next one is done" sure we just saw that he posted something else which wasnt that long waited animation. Its just being lazy and a way to scam people

king_eevee said:
Just to tell you its almost 3 months now and thats why i dont pay subs on patreon for reason happening like that.
And no our conversation and yelling about BH "scamming" people and making the others wait for months wont be burried we continue talking about it on other videos he posts like the new one nobody asked for and that isnt even the one video people waited for months, people should now see have he just used his fans, Sry but animation to do that and getring voice actors wouldn't take so long if you already have them
And using the excuse "i will post the one animation when the next one is done" sure we just saw that he posted something else which wasnt that long waited animation. Its just being lazy and a way to scam people

I'm not totally defending him of course, and as for why i ended up but'll end up cancelling it soon, is i just wanted to see what was going on. And not that much was going on there, being almost 3 months since it first came out & 2 months after it should have gone public is pathetic really, and the guy i mentioned who basically speaks for BH hasn't bothered to say anything else recently either. An idea for whenever the full one goes live, one of us should make a post on it so it'll be as close to the top of the post as possible, telling everyone about the utterly nonsensical wait we've had to go through, so it doesn't get drowned out by all the shills. I've tried being positive on a previous video that took a while to get publicly posted, and that only got posted sooner because of the pressure. So it seems us two are the only ones properly criticizing him, and his utterly rubbish public communication. He doesn't even do it himself, only his buddy drucifer does. So the short of what we've been saying, is BH's non-communication, making people wait & pretty much scamming others with that silly one-animation subscribestar exclusivity thing because we have to wait for whatever other reasons & having to wait 2 months longer than we should have, is utter rubbish. Just us have been saying what needs to be said, and unless others get in on it we'll have to keep waiting until it goes live. Just total rubbish. So yes, whenever it does go live, be sure to give everyone a good summary of what we've been discussing. Though his shills won't care, and he won't change. Just bloody sad.

dacobraman said:
I'm not totally defending him of course, and as for why i ended up but'll end up cancelling it soon, is i just wanted to see what was going on. And not that much was going on there, being almost 3 months since it first came out & 2 months after it should have gone public is pathetic really, and the guy i mentioned who basically speaks for BH hasn't bothered to say anything else recently either. An idea for whenever the full one goes live, one of us should make a post on it so it'll be as close to the top of the post as possible, telling everyone about the utterly nonsensical wait we've had to go through, so it doesn't get drowned out by all the shills. I've tried being positive on a previous video that took a while to get publicly posted, and that only got posted sooner because of the pressure. So it seems us two are the only ones properly criticizing him, and his utterly rubbish public communication. He doesn't even do it himself, only his buddy drucifer does. So the short of what we've been saying, is BH's non-communication, making people wait & pretty much scamming others with that silly one-animation subscribestar exclusivity thing because we have to wait for whatever other reasons & having to wait 2 months longer than we should have, is utter rubbish. Just us have been saying what needs to be said, and unless others get in on it we'll have to keep waiting until it goes live. Just total rubbish. So yes, whenever it does go live, be sure to give everyone a good summary of what we've been discussing. Though his shills won't care, and he won't change. Just bloody sad.

You know whats sad? People report my comments about that situation it being deleted and admins just because they dont want us speaking the truth

And in the comments section on subscribestar there are people getting displeased with the waiting time too, next to no communication of any issues that might arise for him & radio silence for extended periods of time, how BH has multiple projects at once, which isn't such a good idea. People here & paying members on subscribestar are getting a bit fed up with it, as all of this waiting just is not right. I'm being civil here, he does decent work, but making people wait months for the free stuff to get posted, having multiple projects at once which does a number on him mentally, making the paying members wait that long there as well isn't good enough. BH should just be working on one thing at once, getting that in order otherwise he'll get overwhelmed, and would help with the displeased, ansty members over there & non-paying people here too.

I'm someone who'd gone onto bloodhawk's subscriberstar, to he if he might have posted something about his projects & the like, was a little but curious about it all. And it looks like we got quite a detailed response from him, where things seem to be rough & he kind of shits all over the "orc tribes" on the "little forums: here. Do read though the while post first, and make your judgement then. There are people for & against him in the comments in subscrbestar, an interesting little set of comments going on in the post thread. And these are his own words from said subscribestar post, that some may find interesting:

Your concerns are fair, the major issue I think you are having is that you see the designs and the final part of the rigs (the working models) being built. This is probably very exciting for people like you, but you have to understand that this has nothing to do with the core part of animating, it’s literally just the first step. Core animating is slow, tedious, technical and methodical. Due to my animation style; I’m not hyper focusing on one big loop that becomes the main scenes, it might be a Ah! a oh! or a huh! that I’ll hand craft for the scene and it’s not really something that is a show stopper when it comes to showing/teasing clips. The issue you are personally suffering from is that you are on a forum with people that "want something", the issue with that, is you all chime in together about "what you don’t have" and speculate baselessly creating rumours, conspiracies and misinformation and you escalate a mind-set of "where is my content". I’m not a studio, I don't have the luxury of managing animators below me and please don't compare my income to any corporate company that could pay for such a team. For nearly 2 years now my life has been one mad panic into the next, to jump straight onto the next animation, and doing so has made my file organisation really bad, like... I’m so headless right now I can’t even remember what animations I've completed to what I’m planning to complete in the year. Not to mention substar sent me a message saying essentially my pinning was making it super easy for site strippers to "dine and dash" so it certainly makes it a lot lower in my priority hearing that information.

Now this is where I get a little spicy. Seeing as you have promoted yourself to emotional judge, jury and executioner because you have decided to spend more time with your porn forum gossip group outside of dedicated paying community. With your oh so great wisdom; what do you think is a healthy work life balance to reach your emotional made up deadlines? What pressure do you think is right to put onto my VA's when their life situation isn’t great, what about my wife who has stepped out of her job only to be chained to a tablet to fit your personal desires, do you really think I should shit on all these people that help build these projects as well as the people that financially support me because.. "you’re losing hope"

Your messages goal was to prompt a reaction, and you have it now. You have taken very very valuable time away from me working on this project today for what purpose? Do you not think these guys are at least a bit concerned about "ETA's" as well, seeing as there spending their hard earned money? You’re not being smart, bold or even constructive, you are just being the town idiot who is truly and quite simply pointing out the obvious. I'm sure this is a burner account, so once you’re done reading this, please go scurry off back your forum hive and inform your orc tribe that you yourself and others will just have to wait. That's how it is, that's how it's always been. If my time table literally makes my bank account dry up, then at least I know this venture was a bad idea from the start, but at least I gave it a go.

I’m really sorry, I know this probably isn’t what you wanted to hear, but in reality there are a lot of different factors that all contribute to completing an animation, a lot of which are out of my control. I can’t give you exact dates, but I can tell you that I genuinely am juggling multiple projects right now and I can promise you, that it’s also in my own best interests to produce content so that I can continue to get paid.

And this, from a post made on the 24th:

Soooooo let's give this update thing a go;
-Had to have a day away from animating because well.. I felt like shit
-Just found and paid a VA willing to take on the Dawg Time animation voices and now having back and forth conversation how to approach it.
-writing this.. (Not salty... okay a little salty lol)
-Received the last 2 retakes I needed for the Poss Pier project (we had to work on several retakes) and is now ready for core animating phase
-re rendered and simulated the FX for scene 2 of Dog Toy yesterday and spending today lining up and re-syncing the animation layer (the 2 first attempts looked like trash)
-layering more sound effects on scene 2 and trying to look for a fabric sound that might match the animation
-going to try today to lip sync the animation on the last 30secs and try to do a general tidy up getting it ready for render (general tidying is making sure the limbs aren't collapsing and so forth)
-Fix the shading issue in scene 3 and add cum wetness onto the lying plush and make sure it behaves itself during render
-test to see if scene 3 if it's feasible to add the teddies head falling off without running into even more time constraints.
-back and forth communication and training with a new VA for the next animation After poss pier animation "navigating lakes and rivers" and oh dear lord writing this reminds me I need to get in contact with all the people's characters that didn't get selected for the part, if your one of those guys I promise I'll get round to PM'ing you x^x

Too summarise, I'll see how things go today guess.

And really what some were talking about is when the most recently completed animation would get posted. It's not that they have to get pumped in in 1-2 weeks, which is quite silly for people to expect. It's when said most recent animation would be released, waiting a month perhaps, that would be the most i'd say, like others have said in this thread. And if there isn't anything else done by then, it'd be nice if the full animation could get released for the public. Yes, what some people are doing is being foolish, demanding & over the top. But some of us were just wondering what was happening, when the most recent one would get posted. Bloodhawk kind of went off the handle there, he even admits it wasn't nice what he said, some parts of it. But outright insulting some people like that, and with what some people are saying in the comments of those two posts isn't as nice either, but there are those who are being reasonable. So yes, don't jump to conclusions right away, read those posts from him in full. And then make your judgement off of that.

hsgshsbbabwbsjs said:
I'm someone who'd gone onto bloodhawk's subscriberstar, to he if he might have posted something about his projects & the like, was a little but curious about it all. And it looks like we got quite a detailed response from him, where things seem to be rough & he kind of shits all over the "orc tribes" on the "little forums: here. Do read though the while post first, and make your judgement then. There are people for & against him in the comments in subscrbestar, an interesting little set of comments going on in the post thread. And these are his own words from said subscribestar post, that some may find interesting:

Your concerns are fair, the major issue I think you are having is that you see the designs and the final part of the rigs (the working models) being built. This is probably very exciting for people like you, but you have to understand that this has nothing to do with the core part of animating, it’s literally just the first step. Core animating is slow, tedious, technical and methodical. Due to my animation style; I’m not hyper focusing on one big loop that becomes the main scenes, it might be a Ah! a oh! or a huh! that I’ll hand craft for the scene and it’s not really something that is a show stopper when it comes to showing/teasing clips. The issue you are personally suffering from is that you are on a forum with people that "want something", the issue with that, is you all chime in together about "what you don’t have" and speculate baselessly creating rumours, conspiracies and misinformation and you escalate a mind-set of "where is my content". I’m not a studio, I don't have the luxury of managing animators below me and please don't compare my income to any corporate company that could pay for such a team. For nearly 2 years now my life has been one mad panic into the next, to jump straight onto the next animation, and doing so has made my file organisation really bad, like... I’m so headless right now I can’t even remember what animations I've completed to what I’m planning to complete in the year. Not to mention substar sent me a message saying essentially my pinning was making it super easy for site strippers to "dine and dash" so it certainly makes it a lot lower in my priority hearing that information.

Now this is where I get a little spicy. Seeing as you have promoted yourself to emotional judge, jury and executioner because you have decided to spend more time with your porn forum gossip group outside of dedicated paying community. With your oh so great wisdom; what do you think is a healthy work life balance to reach your emotional made up deadlines? What pressure do you think is right to put onto my VA's when their life situation isn’t great, what about my wife who has stepped out of her job only to be chained to a tablet to fit your personal desires, do you really think I should shit on all these people that help build these projects as well as the people that financially support me because.. "you’re losing hope"

Your messages goal was to prompt a reaction, and you have it now. You have taken very very valuable time away from me working on this project today for what purpose? Do you not think these guys are at least a bit concerned about "ETA's" as well, seeing as there spending their hard earned money? You’re not being smart, bold or even constructive, you are just being the town idiot who is truly and quite simply pointing out the obvious. I'm sure this is a burner account, so once you’re done reading this, please go scurry off back your forum hive and inform your orc tribe that you yourself and others will just have to wait. That's how it is, that's how it's always been. If my time table literally makes my bank account dry up, then at least I know this venture was a bad idea from the start, but at least I gave it a go.

I’m really sorry, I know this probably isn’t what you wanted to hear, but in reality there are a lot of different factors that all contribute to completing an animation, a lot of which are out of my control. I can’t give you exact dates, but I can tell you that I genuinely am juggling multiple projects right now and I can promise you, that it’s also in my own best interests to produce content so that I can continue to get paid.

certainly interesting, thanks for your time friend

arrozconfrito16 said:
certainly interesting, thanks for your time friend

Was certainly an interesting read, all of what that person posted. And hopefully people will take those things into consideration, and not just blatantly have a go at BH, now that those details are out there.

dacobraman said:
Was certainly an interesting read, all of what that person posted. And hopefully people will take those things into consideration, and not just blatantly have a go at BH, now that those details are out there.

Considering HsgshsbBabwbsjs is your sockpuppet, what you are doing is pretty cringy.
Take your feud with the artist some place else.

my heeaaarttt omg, sooo adorable 🥰

sery said:
Idk what problem you got, it's piss easy to get a credit card in germany, maybe you didn't look hard enough

Sure, let's all ride our bikes through the atlantic ocean and file for a bank account in the fatherland.