What. The fuck. We go from a hellaciously sexy night of loving, to... a morning of apocalypse? That's not a plot twist, that's a fucking plot corkscrew.

BadKittySev said:
What. The fuck. We go from a hellaciously sexy night of loving, to... a morning of apocalypse? That's not a plot twist, that's a fucking plot corkscrew.

It is the best storyline I've ever had the pleasure to read/see (I say it because the written text and the images before and after the sex).

Blake-Ryota said:
It is the best storyline I've ever had the pleasure to read/see (I say it because the written text and the images before and after the sex).

agreed

I saw nothing but beauty in this comic. So many emotions in every panel.

Okay... I agree that Around The Bend is one of the better individual-issue furry comics I've read, but this page kinda ruined it. On the previous page where we see the male's eye bearing witness to thermonuclear annihilation on the horizon, he superimposed the credits THERE. Normally such a move would be rather jarring, but the context gives it two bonuses:

A) The position of the credits makes it feel less like a production and more like an art, because it's not set aside in a corner all formal and appropriate. It breaks the boundaries and is different, which is ultimately a plus for effort towards being different if for nothing else.
B) It's basically the comic (rather than the author) saying, "Yeah. It's over. You can go home now." There's a flavor to the situation that makes it feel uniquely malaise yet strikingly urgent, with punctuality.

This page? This is just Miles proving to his audience that he too has been consumed by the political correction of this era, throwing this in-your-face exposition bullshit at us. Look, Miles... we get it. Okay? Or at least- the members of your audience for whom are worth writing and illustrating this narrative? We get it! We can appreciate the multiple points of ambiguity. Is it over? Do the characters know it? What do we know for that matter? Will they live, and warrant a sequel? Dunno! And we kinda dig the mystery! We also kinda dig having to figure out for ourselves that their fate is up to interpretation, because audience-reliant ambiguity helps draw them in!

This? This is garbage. This is a piece of dog shit, pandering to the neutral majority rather than the people who actually matter in your fanbase. For example: making a gun kid-friendly is stupid, because guns aren't for kids. Making a how-to-think page for your comic is just giving a bunch of dumbass people access to a medium of art they weren't competent enough to appreciate on their own, which is especially bad because it makes them feel entitled to sling their two-dimensional opinions around as if they actually give a fuck!

I'm not saying you're dumb, Miles. I'm not saying your comic is bad in the least, I loved it and I love your other works. What I'm saying is... anybody who couldn't figure out the questions you propose on this page, on their own? They're not smart enough to appreciate your work, period. Don't give them a special "here's what this comic meant" page, because they don't deserve to be encouraged to stick around where they're not needed. You have plenty of intelligent/competent fans who completely understood the message here. You don't need the worse half.

And as for the people that're gonna turn around and say, "Miles didn't write this page, stupid!" I'm aware. I feel I should not respond to Midori over Miles, because it's not Midori's fucking comic. If Miles wanted to tack on a stupid little note for everyone that missed the metaphorical bus, he'd have done it himself. On that note, I'm still pretty sure Miles approved of this nugget of dullard decadence just 'cause reasons... but is it so wrong that I care? Is it wrong that I recognize this for what it is: giving the local retard visiting the zoo a key to the lion cage, just because they showed up?

Lennox said:
Okay... I agree that Around The Bend is one of the better individual-issue furry comics I've read, but this page kinda ruined it. On the previous page where we see the male's eye bearing witness to thermonuclear annihilation on the horizon, he superimposed the credits THERE. Normally such a move would be rather jarring, but the context gives it two bonuses:

A) The position of the credits makes it feel less like a production and more like an art, because it's not set aside in a corner all formal and appropriate. It breaks the boundaries and is different, which is ultimately a plus for effort towards being different if for nothing else.
B) It's basically the comic (rather than the author) saying, "Yeah. It's over. You can go home now." There's a flavor to the situation that makes it feel uniquely malaise yet strikingly urgent, with punctuality.

This page? This is just Miles proving to his audience that he too has been consumed by the political correction of this era, throwing this in-your-face exposition bullshit at us. Look, Miles... we get it. Okay? Or at least- the members of your audience for whom are worth writing and illustrating this narrative? We get it! We can appreciate the multiple points of ambiguity. Is it over? Do the characters know it? What do we know for that matter? Will they live, and warrant a sequel? Dunno! And we kinda dig the mystery! We also kinda dig having to figure out for ourselves that their fate is up to interpretation, because audience-reliant ambiguity helps draw them in!

This? This is garbage. This is a piece of dog shit, pandering to the neutral majority rather than the people who actually matter in your fanbase. For example: making a gun kid-friendly is stupid, because guns aren't for kids. Making a how-to-think page for your comic is just giving a bunch of dumbass people access to a medium of art they weren't competent enough to appreciate on their own, which is especially bad because it makes them feel entitled to sling their two-dimensional opinions around as if they actually give a fuck!

I'm not saying you're dumb, Miles. I'm not saying your comic is bad in the least, I loved it and I love your other works. What I'm saying is... anybody who couldn't figure out the questions you propose on this page, on their own? They're not smart enough to appreciate your work, period. Don't give them a special "here's what this comic meant" page, because they don't deserve to be encouraged to stick around where they're not needed. You have plenty of intelligent/competent fans who completely understood the message here. You don't need the worse half.

And as for the people that're gonna turn around and say, "Miles didn't write this page, stupid!" I'm aware. I feel I should not respond to Midori over Miles, because it's not Midori's fucking comic. If Miles wanted to tack on a stupid little note for everyone that missed the metaphorical bus, he'd have done it himself. On that note, I'm still pretty sure Miles approved of this nugget of dullard decadence just 'cause reasons... but is it so wrong that I care? Is it wrong that I recognize this for what it is: giving the local retard visiting the zoo a key to the lion cage, just because they showed up?

tl;dc. However, I will say that anyone who can really understand what happened will have already come to a conclusion before this morsel of obvious thematic structure, and most likely will just have affirmation from it.

PhoeniciaChronos said:
tl;dc. However, I will say that anyone who can really understand what happened will have already come to a conclusion before this morsel of obvious thematic structure, and most likely will just have affirmation from it.

That's what I'm saying though, the people who actually care probably figured it out on their own; they don't NEED affirmation, though it is nice in some cases. For everyone else, it's just an 'in' for them to jump on the bandwagon and dilute the actual fanbase.

Not that I should care... *sigh* Remember when valid opinions weren't ostracized, just because they forced people to put an ounce of thought into the situation?.. me neither.

Lennox said:
Okay... I agree that Around The Bend is one of the better individual-issue furry comics I've read, but this page kinda ruined it. On the previous page where we see the male's eye bearing witness to thermonuclear annihilation on the horizon, he superimposed the credits THERE. Normally such a move would be rather jarring, but the context gives it two bonuses:

A) The position of the credits makes it feel less like a production and more like an art, because it's not set aside in a corner all formal and appropriate. It breaks the boundaries and is different, which is ultimately a plus for effort towards being different if for nothing else.
B) It's basically the comic (rather than the author) saying, "Yeah. It's over. You can go home now." There's a flavor to the situation that makes it feel uniquely malaise yet strikingly urgent, with punctuality.

This page? This is just Miles proving to his audience that he too has been consumed by the political correction of this era, throwing this in-your-face exposition bullshit at us. Look, Miles... we get it. Okay? Or at least- the members of your audience for whom are worth writing and illustrating this narrative? We get it! We can appreciate the multiple points of ambiguity. Is it over? Do the characters know it? What do we know for that matter? Will they live, and warrant a sequel? Dunno! And we kinda dig the mystery! We also kinda dig having to figure out for ourselves that their fate is up to interpretation, because audience-reliant ambiguity helps draw them in!

This? This is garbage. This is a piece of dog shit, pandering to the neutral majority rather than the people who actually matter in your fanbase. For example: making a gun kid-friendly is stupid, because guns aren't for kids. Making a how-to-think page for your comic is just giving a bunch of dumbass people access to a medium of art they weren't competent enough to appreciate on their own, which is especially bad because it makes them feel entitled to sling their two-dimensional opinions around as if they actually give a fuck!

I'm not saying you're dumb, Miles. I'm not saying your comic is bad in the least, I loved it and I love your other works. What I'm saying is... anybody who couldn't figure out the questions you propose on this page, on their own? They're not smart enough to appreciate your work, period. Don't give them a special "here's what this comic meant" page, because they don't deserve to be encouraged to stick around where they're not needed. You have plenty of intelligent/competent fans who completely understood the message here. You don't need the worse half.

And as for the people that're gonna turn around and say, "Miles didn't write this page, stupid!" I'm aware. I feel I should not respond to Midori over Miles, because it's not Midori's fucking comic. If Miles wanted to tack on a stupid little note for everyone that missed the metaphorical bus, he'd have done it himself. On that note, I'm still pretty sure Miles approved of this nugget of dullard decadence just 'cause reasons... but is it so wrong that I care? Is it wrong that I recognize this for what it is: giving the local retard visiting the zoo a key to the lion cage, just because they showed up?

Well said.

Although, perhaps it is also so people will not bug him about updates. Let's face it, if they don't know it's over, they'll keep asking until they do! Why not get all the dipshits down the same flush?

Metaphors? The hell you people talking about metaphors, this is just batshit. We go from straight porn to a nuclear holocaust? The hell is that a metaphor of? Unexpected pregnancy?

To me, this really isn't artsy at all. And the addition of this page made it no better...I mean why end on such a note..? What's the point? What's it supposed to make the reader think about, after he's done wiping off the discarded jizz.

It makes no damn sense, it's why they don't give porn storylines!

i can chose my own ending? yes, YES! KNIGHTS! KNIGHTS RESPOND! YOU BETTER HAVE THEM! *static for some very long seconds then* 'hey sir, we had a blast' DONT YOU EVER KEEP ME WAITING AGAIN! GET THOSE TWO BACK ON THE SOUTHERN CROSS so they can be checked out and then go have a bath, good work guys.

Razorback1952 said:
Metaphors? The hell you people talking about metaphors, this is just batshit. We go from straight porn to a nuclear holocaust? The hell is that a metaphor of? Unexpected pregnancy?

To me, this really isn't artsy at all. And the addition of this page made it no better...I mean why end on such a note..? What's the point? What's it supposed to make the reader think about, after he's done wiping off the discarded jizz.

It makes no damn sense, it's why they don't give porn storylines!

Don't worry, there wasn't any plot in this one, either. Seriously, that last page might as well be translated from "never really know what may be on the next page" to "can't hold together 2 Lego blocks". Fight Club, this isn't.

Really sad too, since the art is very good. :/

Well the world war ending was a tad too shallow for my tastes the rest of the comic was quite an enjoyable read

i kinda like this one. I had a major "What....?" moment when I saw the light and I assumed "hey, this might just be an aliens thing... but I also assumed what was gonna happen due to a couple pages and I'm gonna have to say... wow. The words in it are good at helping you think deeply, but at the same time... It makes you realize that anything could happen. This could happen anywhere in the world at any time. Yes, it's unlikely, but still, this exact thing could happen that day, where couples around the city are enjoying a winters evening and then... that.

To those of you who dislike this, oh well. Miles and whomever else made this I feel have made a piece of art and a thoughtful one. I'd like to read the rest of this to see where it goes from here. It's intriguing to me.

sergal239 said:
i can chose my own ending? yes, YES! KNIGHTS! KNIGHTS RESPOND! YOU BETTER HAVE THEM! *static for some very long seconds then* 'hey sir, we had a blast' DONT YOU EVER KEEP ME WAITING AGAIN! GET THOSE TWO BACK ON THE SOUTHERN CROSS so they can be checked out and then go have a bath, good work guys.

"Sorry about that Sir. It was just to god damn funny, seeing you sweat like that. It was Kat's idea, I swea-"
*Hears tapping toe*
"Sorry Sir. On our way Sir."

P4-34-M0 said:
"Sorry about that Sir. It was just to god damn funny, seeing you sweat like that. It was Kat's idea, I swea-"
*Hears tapping toe*
"Sorry Sir. On our way Sir."

Congratulations... you have been promoted to private junior grade garbage collector! -_-

sergal239 said:
Congratulations... you have been promoted to private junior grade garbage collector! -_-

Again?!
Damn I'm good...

Oh.

a nuke was set off

Razorback1952 said:
Metaphors? The hell you people talking about metaphors, this is just batshit. We go from straight porn to a nuclear holocaust? The hell is that a metaphor of? Unexpected pregnancy?

To me, this really isn't artsy at all. And the addition of this page made it no better...I mean why end on such a note..? What's the point? What's it supposed to make the reader think about, after he's done wiping off the discarded jizz.

It makes no damn sense, it's why they don't give porn storylines!

The problem I felt was that the Nuke was a case of "Giant Space Flea from outta nowhere", but unlike other ones, it's not as good.

There was no reason for it to End in Nuclear fire, especially so soon after a long sex scene. I mean, it's confusing, it's weird, and there is. No. Context!

I mean, in Fallout, we had Context, we had a reason for the Nuclear bombs! We knew what we were getting into!

This? It just literally ends the story by dropping a Bomb. That's it. We don't know why the bomb was dropped, we don't know why there was no warning for it, it just had a bomb fall out of no where and basically tell us, "They're dead, that's good, Ahem."

I feel that those parts of the comic, can be treated like the Last Ten minutes of "The Law Abiding Citizen", as in, pretending they never existed.

However, that doesn't mean you can't have Plot to your Porn. Look no Further than "Prophesy", By Zummeng. It's porn, with plot, and it's done so BEAUTIFULLY.

Sucks that he's too busy selling $5000 YCH's to ever finish this story.

razorback1952 said:
Metaphors? The hell you people talking about metaphors, this is just batshit. We go from straight porn to a nuclear holocaust? The hell is that a metaphor of? Unexpected pregnancy?

To me, this really isn't artsy at all. And the addition of this page made it no better...I mean why end on such a note..? What's the point? What's it supposed to make the reader think about, after he's done wiping off the discarded jizz.

It makes no damn sense, it's why they don't give porn storylines!

imagine making a yiff comic that ends with them randomly getting fucking nuked and calling it 'art'

ngl, am kinda really sad now. two lovers together and then when the walls start crumbling i kinda thought, "oh. was it a dream this entire time for this guy? man living alone sucks. i can definitely relate."

and then all of a sudden nuclear holocaust in the morning? holy fuck that was a twist. rip lovers. t.t

Im sorry, but now i need more comics with endings that i couldnt expect. From death to just prophecys, i discovered a new type of comic that i like.

Any recomendations?

I love when artists think they are being big and artsty instead its just fucking dumb.

When?