Topic: Tag Projects

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

anal_orgasm seems to be horrifically undertagged.

try anal_penetration + looking_up/ahegao/orgasm to find relevant posts

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Also, I created a thick_calves wiki page. I basically copy/pasted the page from thick_thighs so if anyone can improve it, go for it. Should be a hell of a tagging effort too so any help would be appreciated. Try searching for thick_thighs and you should find relevant posts.

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According to the breasts wiki page: "If a character's breasts are uncovered, use exposed_breasts or one_breast_out as appropriate." However, we have 661510 breasts, with only 3791 exposed sets and 2865 single ones out. It is hardly likely that we would have more covered breasts than exposed. We should see through our breasts and note if they are exposed or not.

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This is probably a very minor one, but there are 16 posts tagged maneki_neko, and 5 tagged maneki-neko. The latter seems to be the correct construction, so I imagine maneki_neko should be aliased to it. I just don't want to screw anything up before attempting it.

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I guess this would be the best place to ask:

In https://e621.net/post/show/1843151/2018-3-3_eyes-5_fingers-ambiguous_gender-anthro-bi why is there an ambiguous gender tag? While with this picture the central character Jimmy is an established male so is it that someone mis-tagged it, or are tagging rules different here compared to elsewhere? Like, my inclination would be to tag a character by their default sex unless there's evidence or proof that it's a rule 63, rather than ambiguous (unless the character doesn't have an established or official sex, of course). Would this be an appropriate approach if i do any tags here?

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Mcman3 said:
I guess this would be the best place to ask:

In https://e621.net/post/show/1843151/2018-3-3_eyes-5_fingers-ambiguous_gender-anthro-bi why is there an ambiguous gender tag? While with this picture the central character Jimmy is an established male so is it that someone mis-tagged it, or are tagging rules different here compared to elsewhere? Like, my inclination would be to tag a character by their default sex unless there's evidence or proof that it's a rule 63, rather than ambiguous (unless the character doesn't have an established or official sex, of course). Would this be an appropriate approach if i do any tags here?

E621 follows a strict twys (tag what you see) policy, meaning that any outside information* is ignored and every post is tagged soley based on what's visible in the relevant post.

*Exceptions exist, for example character tagging and judging whether incest applies.

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'nother suggestion:

dragon mammal solo

High probability at least one of these tags does not belong.

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While not exactly a catch all, gag -gagged is something I try to work on. Usually I see images with gagged characters missing the gagged tag.

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Leotheairwolf said:
While not exactly a catch all, gag -gagged is something I try to work on. Usually I see images with gagged characters missing the gagged tag.

Well, this thread isn't about catch-alls, it's about tag searches that need to be sifted through to make sure nothing has been tagged poorly. I don't think there are very many, if any, tag searches on the parent post that could be considered catch-alls.

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Was going through solo dickgirl female but had a question. There are some that are labeled with solo that are a transformation of a single character (such as post #1800346). The solo page doesn't really specify if this is solo because it is the same character, just in transformation, or if this does not count as solo.

If this does count as solo because it is a transition of the same character, perhaps update the search to solo dickgirl female -transformation. If not, I can also remove the solo from that and treat it like they are separate characters.

On that note, another question of clarity: If it is the same character, but multiple versions of it without actual transformation transition elements (for example post #1724506, which is also model_sheet), is it still solo, or is it technically multiple?

If I get better clarity on this I can also update the wiki pages to make them clearer with regard to these situations.

Thanks in advance for any responses. Until then I'm skipping over those and only removing when it is only the one character.

Got clarification on this outside of the forum.

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Simple, fairly fun one:

humor -dialog. Recent pictures with only one text bubble or speaker tend to not get the tag, but the wiki definition of dialog indicates they should.

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Checked the thread and saw this wasn't already posted:

Imagus addon for Firefox

Basically adds 'hover to get full image' functionality to posts/ view.

After installing, in order to enable this for e621, go to Preferences (for the addon), Sieve, search "e6".
I don't remember whether an entry exists for e621 or not by default, but if it does it's wrong. Use the + button if an entry doesn't exist. The data that currently works is:

  • [ ] Prioritize img over link (ie. leave this box unchecked. there are 6 other checkboxes lower down -- leave them unchecked too.)
  • ^e[69]2[16]\\.net/post/show/\d+
  • (url field should be empty. This shows as the text 'url')
  • (?:: <a href|src)="((?:https?:)?//s[^"]+)" (?:id="highres|type="video/webm)
  • ^(static\d*\\.e[69]2[16]\\.net/data/)[^/]+/((?:[\da-f]{2}/){2})(?:preview)?([\da-f]{32}\.).+
  • (the below is two separate lines entered in one text field)
#$1$2$3#webm jpg png gif#
$1sample/$2$3#jpg png gif#

Screenshot of the above, in case any of that is unclear, with + button highlighted

Also, make sure, in the general Imagus preferences, Preload Images is set to 'on mouse over', 'minimal', or 'no preload', not 'on page load'. The latter gives e621's servers a hard time, which results in full size images beyond the first few on a page just not loading (due to automatic abuse detection, I think.)

Remember to check out the shortcuts. The popup normally fits the image onto the screen, but hitting Z lets you pan around the maximum res image by moving the mouse. That's probably the most useful one.

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Nothing to see here. Delete it, if you want. I don't know how to delete it myself. Otherwise, I wouldn't have wasted a couple of seconds writing this post.

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Not much of a tag implication project, but I feel like half of the posts I see don't have digitigrade or plantigrade when appropriate. If a character's feet are visible (does not have to be foot_focus), they should be tagged with digitigrade, plantigrade, or hooves.

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Stopping by with a handful. With the new update allowing 40 tags in one search, we should be able to construct better search strings for tag projects. Might be worth it to go over the current list we have and see what we can do to take advantage of that.

Search Description
~older_* ~younger_* solo Tags starting with either of these must be on posts that have two characters of differing ages
~shota ~loli -cub Will bring up potential cub images that are not tagged properly
~toddler ~baby ~child -cub "Cub" refers to prepubescent characters, and as such, if one of these three tags is included, so too should "cub". Excludes human or humanoid characters
cub -toddler -baby -child "Cub" refers to prepubescent characters, and as such, at least one of these three tags should be included
young -toddler -baby -child -teenager The "young" tag should be paired with at least one of the other four tags.
evolutionary_family For when a character is grouped with the entirety of their evolutionary family. Search things such as "charmander charmeleon charizard" to tag this
scalie speciestag:1 Anything tagged with only the scalie tag is likely to have a more specific species
dragon -feathered_dragon -furred_dragon -scalie These dragon images are likely best tagged with scalie

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looking_at_penis is pretty undertagged. Typically images with:

male orgasm erection solo

or variations thereof might be needing the tag

I don't know if it's been brought up, but a potential big long-term/continuing tag project could be to assign "form" tags (anthro/humanoid/human/feral/semi-anthro) to franchises like Pokemon and My Little Pony, both have an outrageous amount of posts lacking any form tag at all, for whatever reason.

pokémon -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 145 pages
my_little_pony -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 113 pages

By adding breasts to either one, it narrows things down dramatically.

freeneko said:
I don't know if it's been brought up, but a potential big long-term/continuing tag project could be to assign "form" tags (anthro/humanoid/human/feral/semi-anthro) to franchises like Pokemon and My Little Pony, both have an outrageous amount of posts lacking any form tag at all, for whatever reason.

For pokemon, I find it sometimes gets difficult to determine if certain pokemon should be classified as anthro or feral (semi-anthro is not supposed to be a separate "in-between" form/category, it's supplemental and should be tagged with anthro or feral). Pokemon like salazzle, typhlosion, (on-model) midnight lycanroc, for example, are very close to the line, especially considering bipedalism doesn't mean not feral (see kangaroos, chickens, etc).

watsit said:
For pokemon, I find it sometimes gets difficult to determine if certain pokemon should be classified as anthro or feral (semi-anthro is not supposed to be a separate "in-between" form/category, it's supplemental and should be tagged with anthro or feral). Pokemon like salazzle, typhlosion, (on-model) midnight lycanroc, for example, are very close to the line, especially considering bipedalism doesn't mean not feral (see kangaroos, chickens, etc).

I think generally semi-anthro works in those hard circumstances where you have an image with a bipedal Pokemon (like Lucario, or Salazzle) is wearing clothes and/or acting human, but is otherwise indistinguishable from their canon anatomy.

In my opinion, erring on the side of using feral over anthro in most borderline situations is probably for the best, especially when a number of images with the Pokemon like the ones you bring up depict them as no different from their canonical form beyond adding some genitals.

Hello, I'm not sure where the right place to say this is, but I looked around and this seems like the place? Anyway, I'd just like to request that ballet_slippers not alias to pointe_shoes please, because they're different things.

ajk said:
These are some of the tagging projects I've been collecting until now..
All of them need to be checked visually before editing/fixing because the search results are imprecise and they're only useful as a starting point.

General Tags

Search Description
flat_chested ~male ~maleherm ~cuntboy Flat_chested: Do not use this tag for male, maleherm, cuntboy or other manly body types. Do not confuse with cuntboy. Most cub characters are generally flat-chested, but most loli will have either a flat chest or small breasts.

https://e621.net/pools/8134

The character in this comic is locked as cuntboy and forcibly removing the female tag while the artist themselves comfirms them as female, and as a result was almost filtered out by my blacklist
The justification behind the locking was their flat chest implies cuntboy.

I'm personally unable to fix this as a regular member, so I hope this can be noticed by someone who can fix it. I'll continue to forward more sources I cannot change here in the future too.

(Justice for flat chested females :D)

What, if anything, should be done about incorrect tags on deleted posts?
Occassionally, when entering tags, the preview lists misspelled tags which are only present on one or 2 images that have been taken down, preventing the tags in question from being cleared out. For instance there's this submission, which gives us the tags stickings, rubbon, femals, and legrear.

Wow...a whole lotta' pages of this vanished since last I peeked in on it. o.o

Also: "exposed_breasts nude"

Not guaranteed, of course, but there's a very real possibility somebody tagged "exposed_breasts" incorrectly with that tag combo. Its wiki entry makes it abundantly clear it's only to be used when the owner of the tiddies is still at least partially dressed.

jacob said:
Wow...a whole lotta' pages of this vanished since last I peeked in on it. o.o

I believe you're thinking of a different thread, forum #18467. I think this thread is intended to replace the older one.

Genjar

Former Staff

Here's a simple, fast project for someone:
handjob -penis

I see a handful of mistags among those, but most should just have the penis tag added. If you want to put a bit more work into it, could tag the penis type and check for missing balls tag too.

freeneko said:
I don't know if it's been brought up, but a potential big long-term/continuing tag project could be to assign "form" tags (anthro/humanoid/human/feral/semi-anthro) to franchises like Pokemon and My Little Pony, both have an outrageous amount of posts lacking any form tag at all, for whatever reason.

pokémon -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 145 pages
my_little_pony -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 113 pages

By adding breasts to either one, it narrows things down dramatically.

Expanding off of this,
anthro pokémon -anthrofied -pokémorph
anthro the_lion_king -anthrofied
Anthropomorphic depictions of originally non-anthropomorphic characters should be tagged as anthrofied, and non-anthro Pokémon depicted this way should also be tagged as pokémorph. Pokémon and The Lion King are the most common anthrofications I see, but there are probably others.

fortheplot said:
Expanding off of this,
anthro pokémon -anthrofied -pokémorph
anthro the_lion_king -anthrofied
Anthropomorphic depictions of originally non-anthropomorphic characters should be tagged as anthrofied, and non-anthro Pokémon depicted this way should also be tagged as pokémorph. Pokémon and The Lion King are the most common anthrofications I see, but there are probably others.

Bear in mind a few pokemon are considered anthro by default, such as Lucario or Gardevoir. Unless they're feralized they shouldn't be tagged as feral. pokémon feral -feralized solo lucario You can probably repeat this with other normally anthro pokemon.

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furrin_gok said:
Bear in mind a few pokemon are considered anthro by default, such as Lucario or Gardevoir.

Gardevoir is actually considered humanoid by default, so shouldn't be tagged as either anthro or feral without the respective anthrofied or feralized tag.

genjar said:
Here's a simple, fast project for someone:
handjob -penis

I see a handful of mistags among those, but most should just have the penis tag added. If you want to put a bit more work into it, could tag the penis type and check for missing balls tag too.

In practice, would there ever be a case where 'handjob' would be applicable and not penis? Might be worth an implication.

watsit said:
Gardevoir is actually considered humanoid by default, so shouldn't be tagged as either anthro or feral without the respective anthrofied or feralized tag.

Good point, I forgot about humanoid for a bit.

Genjar

Former Staff

strikerman said:
In practice, would there ever be a case where 'handjob' would be applicable and not penis? Might be worth an implication.

There are rare cases where someone is clearly giving a handjob, but the penis is obscured (by clothing, or even by the hand in case of major size differences).

furrin_gok said:

fortheplot said:

freeneko said:
I don't know if it's been brought up, but a potential big long-term/continuing tag project could be to assign "form" tags (anthro/humanoid/human/feral/semi-anthro) to franchises like Pokemon and My Little Pony, both have an outrageous amount of posts lacking any form tag at all, for whatever reason.

pokémon -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 145 pages
my_little_pony -feral -anthro -semi-anthro -human -humanoid -zero_pictured 113 pages

By adding breasts to either one, it narrows things down dramatically.

Expanding off of this,
anthro pokémon -anthrofied -pokémorph
anthro the_lion_king -anthrofied
Anthropomorphic depictions of originally non-anthropomorphic characters should be tagged as anthrofied, and non-anthro Pokémon depicted this way should also be tagged as pokémorph. Pokémon and The Lion King are the most common anthrofications I see, but there are probably others.

Bear in mind a few pokemon are considered anthro by default, such as Lucario or Gardevoir. Unless they're feralized they shouldn't be tagged as feral. pokémon feral -feralized solo lucario You can probably repeat this with other normally anthro pokemon.

Of course. I was mainly referring to stuff like anthrofied Eeveelutions and other non-bipeds (hence why I specified non-anthro Pokémon). May also apply to something like drawing something like Lucario or Gardevoir with protrusive breasts (by Pokémon standards, not by human standards), though that may be humanoidized instead.

Genjar

Former Staff

Another tag scripting project:
night -detailed_background

If the post can be tagged as night, there's usually a detailed background. Tons of those are untagged. At the time of writing, that search returns about 18750 posts.

Okay, another project to add to the list:

"impregnation -ovum" Any image that comes up with this search, almost definitely either needs to have the ovum tag added, or needs to have the impregnation tag removed due to lack of sufficient visual cues to suggest it.

Today i did a search for anthro arthropod order:score and found dozens of misused arthropod tags, its understandable that a yellow dot in the backround is meant to be a firefly but a good deal of the first 2 pages doesnt have anything arthropod related

wimbly04 said:
Today i did a search for anthro arthropod order:score and found dozens of misused arthropod tags, its understandable that a yellow dot in the backround is meant to be a firefly but a good deal of the first 2 pages doesnt have anything arthropod related

The ambient_* set of tags is supposed to address this.

11.18 aka big_dick_day is a Japanese hentai meme thing in which characters are drawn with big dongers and needs to be tagged, this will be a tough project because the only way i can think of to search for untagged images is with big_penis with the addition of a japanese artist's name or a pixiv source. although, it's also possible that some western artists have participated in the meme. related images usually have the date "11.18" prominently featured in the image

Genjar

Former Staff

Another easy but too-large-to-handle-alone project: penetration disembodied_penis -masturbation -sex -tentacles

These are usually in three categories: mistagged as penetration, mistagged as disembodied penis when it should be a dildo or other sex toy, or missing the sex tag.

And even larger project:
disembodied_penis -erection. Almost all of these need to have the erection tag added. Unfortunately there's rare few flaccid ones, so it can't just be implicated.

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The sex tag needs a lot of work.

There are a lot of sex solo images that either aren't sex (should be masturbation or some variant, or are just a nude or otherwise sexy character) or have more than one character.

There are also a lot of images that return from -sex -masturbation penetration. Many of them should have the sex tag because of one character penetrating the other, but some should have masturbation.

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butt_from_the_front Is majorly undertagged and some of the current tags might need some cleaning up as some images seem to be inapplicable or very borderline. The wiki might need further clarification, such as what poses not to tag, for example when the butt is no longer viewed from the "front".

Wish there was a tag to find posts that has characters only, not a specific amount, but a search that will find posts that has character tags in them and hides the ones without a character tag

Should there be a visible_elasticity tag, specifically for images featuring particularly squishy bits? Like a lot of trinity-fate62's artwork for example.

catt0s_0fthenight said:
'anthro -biped'
post #17 is the oldest example of this

That's already on the list but it could probably be made ~human ~humanoid ~anthro -biped; just human -biped gets over 750 pages of results.

Biped seems to be an extremely overlooked tag, probably because it's the assumed norm and users (like myself) just tag anything that deviates from it. Although now that I know of it, I'll try to remember it in my uploads.

Don't know exactly where to post this, but one tag caught my attention and seems to be an unnecessary tag, inaccurate_knotting, only seems to be propagated mainly by one user at only 33 posts. I understand the reasoning they have but seems like tag clutter to me.

1 problems (because I don't wanna double post)

tentacles search is filled up with inkling from splatoom, true their are squids or whatever, but those are more like hair than any form of appendages

second thing is a massive error: possum and opossum have completely different results

lerutheassassin said:
Wish there was a tag to find posts that has characters only, not a specific amount, but a search that will find posts that has character tags in them and hides the ones without a character tag

Try "-zero_pictured"

akarisu said:
second thing is a massive error: possum and opossum have completely different results

possum and opossums are different animals, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are tagged inconsistently.

Edit: Thanks for mentioning it. I went though and moved some of the virginia opossums out of the possum tag.

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Quite an immense project to take on, but I'm starting to slowly go through rope posts and start adding colored rope tags to them. Wish me luck and feel free to help out.

leotheairwolf said:
Quite an immense project to take on, but I'm starting to slowly go through rope posts and start adding colored rope tags to them. Wish me luck and feel free to help out.

Good luck! With respect and curiosity, are the differences in rope color important to you? Would you seek out content with or without specific rope colors?

tittybitty said:
Good luck! With respect and curiosity, are the differences in rope color important to you? Would you seek out content with or without specific rope colors?

It's more of a trying to find a certain image in favorites thing. I'm into rope bondage a lot, so the color of the rope is a little bit more of a memorable factor for me. That and I'm curious to find out just what colors of rope are more common in images than others.

This seems like the most least related thread to ask this in: is there any stickied thread that would be more appropriate for asking "this image is hard to tag, how can I reach a consensus on what to remove or add?" This image is tagged badger, but I see no character that looks remotely musteline. Definitely a shark, lower left character has cat eyes and "animal crossing style ridiculously tall feline ears" but has a shaggy tail, so it could be just a canine but you could argue for adding both canine and feline (hybrid?) tags. Upper character looks more feline to me, I'd say highly stylized lion (broad thin nose, tail tuft) but the ears are wrong so no specific species at all, just 'feline'. We're not supposed to use text descriptions to determine gender but if the species is inexplicable just by visuals is it acceptable to use that unless it's blatantly visually wrong? (i.e. someone calls a lion a tiger even if it has a mane and no stripes).

https://e621.net/posts/311390

kevsnowcat said:
This seems like the most least related thread to ask this in: is there any stickied thread that would be more appropriate for asking "this image is hard to tag, how can I reach a consensus on what to remove or add?" This image is tagged badger, but I see no character that looks remotely musteline. Definitely a shark, lower left character has cat eyes and "animal crossing style ridiculously tall feline ears" but has a shaggy tail, so it could be just a canine but you could argue for adding both canine and feline (hybrid?) tags. Upper character looks more feline to me, I'd say highly stylized lion (broad thin nose, tail tuft) but the ears are wrong so no specific species at all, just 'feline'. We're not supposed to use text descriptions to determine gender but if the species is inexplicable just by visuals is it acceptable to use that unless it's blatantly visually wrong? (i.e. someone calls a lion a tiger even if it has a mane and no stripes).

https://e621.net/posts/311390

I don't think there's specifically a thread for those kinds of questions (the Do we have a tag for that thread is usually the default). Otherwise, give it your best effort and worst case scenario, add tagme.

kevsnowcat said:
This seems like the most least related thread to ask this in: is there any stickied thread that would be more appropriate for asking "this image is hard to tag, how can I reach a consensus on what to remove or add?" This image is tagged badger, but I see no character that looks remotely musteline. Definitely a shark, lower left character has cat eyes and "animal crossing style ridiculously tall feline ears" but has a shaggy tail, so it could be just a canine but you could argue for adding both canine and feline (hybrid?) tags. Upper character looks more feline to me, I'd say highly stylized lion (broad thin nose, tail tuft) but the ears are wrong so no specific species at all, just 'feline'. We're not supposed to use text descriptions to determine gender but if the species is inexplicable just by visuals is it acceptable to use that unless it's blatantly visually wrong? (i.e. someone calls a lion a tiger even if it has a mane and no stripes).

https://e621.net/posts/311390

When I'm unsure what to do

strikerman said:
I don't think there's specifically a thread for those kinds of questions (the Do we have a tag for that thread is usually the default). Otherwise, give it your best effort and worst case scenario, add tagme.

I would only add that when I tag things I try to remember.
1. Tagging more pictures correctly and skipping some is better than stressing out about an edge case.
2. If I do make a defensible judgement call it's almost certain that no one will notice or care, especially in a case like this (old, no tagged characters, low likes/faves).

That's not to say accurate tagging isn't important or sloppiness is permissible, just that life's too short to stress about any single tag.