Topic: Do some posts ignore the blacklist when viewing a tag?

Posted under Site Bug Reports & Feature Requests

I have gore added in my blacklist and I definitely don't see any when viewing https://e621.net/posts.

However, when viewing a tag such as e254e I still see gore, such as post #4523013.
Disabling the blacklist (using the toggle) shows posts such as post #4523032 so it's definitely working for some posts.

My blacklist tags are one tag per line.

Is this intended?

under Tag What You See: post #4523013 doesn't contain any gore, despite it being clear that this umbreon is going to get blitzed to oblivion

it's like tagging post #2467442 with young: there's no baby pictured, but what that image is implying is clear

you could add gore_focus to your list as while it does have the word gore in it it only pays attention to "complete" tags.

edit this doesnt work:

you could use gore* to blacklist any tag that begins with the word gore in it but that would also blacklist any artist that has begins with gore as well

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fliphook said:

you could use gore* to blacklist any tag that begins with the word gore in it but that would also blacklist any artist that has begins with gore as well

No, I don't think wildcards work in blacklists

snpthecat said:
No, I don't think wildcards work in blacklists

what i thought i had that working somewhere, i gotta double check

dripen_arn said:
under Tag What You See: post #4523013 doesn't contain any gore, despite it being clear that this umbreon is going to get blitzed to oblivion

it's like tagging post #2467442 with young: there's no baby pictured, but what that image is implying is clear

At the top of the tags list, I see gore under blacklist. Does it show up there because the post has the gore_focus tag?

fliphook said:
you could add gore_focus to your list as while it does have the word gore in it it only pays attention to "complete" tags.

That works.

I guess it's not a bug, it's just a tagging thing.

thefisher said:
At the top of the tags list, I see gore under blacklist. Does it show up there because the post has the gore_focus tag?

That post was never tagged with gore, therefore you could still see it. It is not eligible for the gore tag since the "extreme violence" has not been made apparent yet.
If you had blacklisted gore_focus as well, then you'd not be able to see these kind of posts.

I'd suggest looking through the tag list of posts that "slip" through your blacklist and find out which other tags that you do not like and add those to your blacklist as well.

thefisher said:
At the top of the tags list, I see gore under blacklist. Does it show up there because the post has the gore_focus tag?

that's from the child post, not the post proper

basically: images that are viewable on a post but aren't apart of the post itself, such as user avatars and posts with parent/child relationships, get blacklisted just like they would be on a gallary page

in this case post #4523023 is being displayed on post #4523013's post page as they have a child/parent relationship, and as such the former gets blacklisted for having the gore tag and that show up on your blacklist display even though that tag doesn't belong to the post you're currently viewing

if you want my 2 cents: i empathize with not wanting to deal with art that doesn't technically display any gore but still totally shows gruesome and brutal acts, but i think "gore_focus" is a poor name for a tag that's meant for off-screen or implied gore. implied_gore sounds a bit more right for this scenario (hell, we already got implied_snuff at 200 posts strong yet it doesn't get a wiki page)

thefisher said:
Is this intended?

Yes. As explained, that's not yet gore.

However, when viewing a tag such as e254e I still see gore, such as post #4523013.

For these outlier situations, if you want to blacklist a precise tag, then it would be something like imminent_pain or just all of imminent_death. Unfortunately, those kinds of tags are not reliably tagged, but we as a site have gotten a lot better about tagging imminent_death at all. imminent_gore is not yet a tag.

I recommend looking over all of e254e's art that escapes your blacklist and asking yourself if you want to see any of it, or perhaps if their art that you're okay seeing is worth the exposure to their other works that you don't like that aren't easily blacklistable. That's what I did maybe two years ago, and I decided that I wouldn't miss anything I'd want to save by blacklisting their artist tag. Plenty of fish in the sea.

For your example post, my score:<-10 blacklist entry also triggers. I added that tip to e621:blacklisting suggestions when I gave it a semi-overhaul. Very good at catching the many things that escape normal blacklisting and some gross or poor art uploaded by bad taggers that are missing major blacklist tags.

I also recommend "over"-blacklisting slightly and selectively toggling off those broad blacklist entries if the tags, score, or artist seems okay. I often do this because most artists I look at don't make brutal or gross art, so I give their blacklisted art a shot even though I know I'm very unlikely to save it. The blacklist provides a good buffer to mentally prepare oneself, but it doesn't have to be a hard no.

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