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  • shave_n_haircut said:
    If every Nazi, Neo-Nazi, or "Alt-Right" person died today, nobody would be worse off.

    Well if they all died who would whiney snowflakes be able reference when someone said something they don't agree with?

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  • Imagine if we lived in a world where dipshits didn't push their political agendas and moral belief's against one another and instead just enjoyed the art they themselves clicked on. Very nice piece as always, Shinodage; I love the character and how you drew her

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  • lereddestpanda said:
    Imagine if we lived in a world where dipshits didn't push their political agendas and moral belief's against one another and instead just enjoyed the art they themselves clicked on. Very nice piece as always, Shinodage; I love the character and how you drew her

    Ah yes, this very inherently apolitical piece of art. No politics inherent in this piece of art. Nope, no politics here until people came around and ruined it with their politics.

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  • amealal said:
    Its a cartoon pony dressed as a political party from 1930's germany. Any modern day politics you can get out of this is your own assertions lol

    Doesn't seem like they mentioned modern politics. In fact as you pointed out, it's about a political party from 1930's germany.

    But it is funny how certain people get really defensive when fans of that political party from 1930's germany get criticized. Almost as if they too believe in the ideas that political party believed...

    I really have to wonder why "genocide is bad" is such a disliked opinion.

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  • concordokken said:
    Doesn't seem like they mentioned modern politics. In fact as you pointed out, it's about a political party from 1930's germany.

    But it is funny how certain people get really defensive when fans of that political party from 1930's germany get criticized. Almost as if they too believe in the ideas that political party believed...

    I really have to wonder why "genocide is bad" is such a disliked opinion.

    Right? Gosh you'd think it'd be pretty uncontroversial but for some reason all these Free Speech and Totally Apolitical bros are really really into making sure Nazis and Neo Nazis aren't criticized.

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  • concordokken said:
    Doesn't seem like they mentioned modern politics. In fact as you pointed out, it's about a political party from 1930's germany.

    But it is funny how certain people get really defensive when fans of that political party from 1930's germany get criticized. Almost as if they too believe in the ideas that political party believed...

    I really have to wonder why "genocide is bad" is such a disliked opinion.

    Except nobody is getting defensive about the Nazi party getting criticized, people are getting defensive about people criticizing the art because they're incapable of separating art from reality. This OC is not a "good" character. This OC is a "bad" character. This OC is also an "attractive" character. Bad can still be attractive, whether you like the concept or not, and you pointing it out is NOT getting a reaction from people who think the inspiration behind the character is morally "good", but rather people who enjoy the art as it is on the surface. It's a deviant piece of art, the symbolism emphasizes how morally "bad" she is, and it's downright gorgeous all at once. That's what we see, not some social commentary that some people just can't get out of their heads.

    This OC's original intent was specifically to get people like you and me to talk about how offensive a fictional xenophobic pony is, which it's doing a fantastic job of to this day. The only cure is for people to literally stop commenting on it, to recognize that it is a piece of art and not political propaganda. But we can't resist, and then somebody replies, then somebody replies to the reply, and here I am replying to your reply explaining how this works. The only way to win the game is not to play my friend, and we lost the moment we commented.

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  • lereddestpanda said:
    Imagine if we lived in a world where dipshits didn't push their political agendas and moral belief's against one another and instead just enjoyed the art they themselves clicked on. Very nice piece as always, Shinodage; I love the character and how you drew her

    Bruh, it's a nazi, the fucking definition of propaganda, this is something inherently political and on the worst way possible and despite of that you dare to demand no turn this political. I don't care of is ironic or not, whoever draw that must be mature enough to face the criticism of doing such things, according to the circumstances.

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  • Well I’m black and it’s a cute pony. I don’t support Nazis, they killed my race and wanted to kill more of my race. But I still like this picture. Because pony is cute and not real.

    When there’s a picture of a character being raped, eaten alive and digested, abused, killed and then raped, having sex with a minor, etc. The fans of those images are never accused of genuinely wanting to do those things. But flash the Nazi symbol on a my little pony character and suddenly everyone who likes it is a Nazi and is a proponent of Nazi ideas.

    Whenever someone shames the artist or fans on a vore image, or cub image, or rape image on this site they get downvoted to oblivion. But for some reason it’s okay to demonize both in this case.

    You’d think furries, one of the most unanimously hated groups, wouldn’t be so quick to judge people they don’t know on the internet for their interest in a piece of art.

    This world fucking sucks bro. People take a pony sensually licking a rifle seriously.

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  • d4rk said:
    Accepting a massive death toll for a "greater good"... quite the irony considering the topic

    Believing in an ideology that involves the oppression and death of billions based on ethnicity is always morally evil and therefore beating the shit out of those who believe in said ideology, is always morally correct.

    English translation: if you're a nazi, don't be surprised when someone tries to run you over.

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  • d4rk said:
    So would an ideology that involves the oppression and death of billions based on political beliefs be better? There is a thing all extremists (Left,Right,Religious) have in common - a mindset that considers groups of people unworthy of being alive. And all justify it with being the right moral thing to do.

    English translation: Why kill the Nazis for a mindset that the killers have themselves just labeled as something different? We should start to fight the concept, not only one of many ideologies following it

    Dude, They're nazis. Do I have to drag you back to school and teach you why they're so bad?

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  • d4rk said:
    Accepting a massive death toll for a "greater good"... quite the irony considering the topic

    Well considering why they want Nazi dead there is no irony.

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  • entrinity said:
    Well I’m black and it’s a cute pony. I don’t support Nazis, they killed my race and wanted to kill more of my race. But I still like this picture. Because pony is cute and not real.

    When there’s a picture of a character being raped, eaten alive and digested, abused, killed and then raped, having sex with a minor, etc. The fans of those images are never accused of genuinely wanting to do those things. But flash the Nazi symbol on a my little pony character and suddenly everyone who likes it is a Nazi and is a proponent of Nazi ideas.

    Whenever someone shames the artist or fans on a vore image, or cub image, or rape image on this site they get downvoted to oblivion. But for some reason it’s okay to demonize both in this case.

    You’d think furries, one of the most unanimously hated groups, wouldn’t be so quick to judge people they don’t know on the internet for their interest in a piece of art.

    This world fucking sucks bro. People take a pony sensually licking a rifle seriously.

    It's kinda sus how out of ALL the ponies that would made to look cute you go to the Nazi pony instead also no people that see cub art or the likes tend to think the artist is pedo.

    Furthermore the brony community has too many neo-nazi hidden in the fandom that use Aryanne as a means to push their ideology with plausible deniability cause 'cute horse'.

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  • Shave_N_Haircut said:

    two_b said:
    Well if they all died who would whiney snowflakes be able reference when someone said something they don't agree with?

    If Strawman was made of straw then how would strawman strawman? Checkmate, like and subscribe if dum leftist owned.

    hmm, the likes and dislike tell you that most people don't care about your political nonsense.

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  • The problem with nazi imagery and the internet is that nazi shit, unless it's outwardly toxic, always gets overlooked under the guise of "lmao it's just a meme ya dumb snowflake" like it's some kind of trump card that excuses and validates a genuinely vile ideology. Not trying to say an aryan pony doing sexy pose with gun is gonna convert anyone into a nazi necessarily, but if you find yourself enjoying this character for reasons other than "hot pony with gun" you might have a problem.

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  • alucardxl said:
    Well considering why they want Nazi dead there is no irony.

    Well considering that all Hitler wanted was to bring Germany back where it was before WWI left it ragged, broken, stripped of its sovereignty, and indebted to most of Europe, it was for the greater good, too. Pretending you're 100% right with no exception is what creates extremism. You're not good at this, don't embarrass yourself.

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  • two_b said:
    Well if they all died who would whiney snowflakes be able reference when someone said something they don't agree with?

    They could always reference the Republican party

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  • No more political arguing on this post please. Let's all just go back to finding stuff we like and blacklisting what we don't.

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  • two_b said:
    Well if they all died who would whiney snowflakes be able reference when someone said something they don't agree with?

    If they died then 98% of whiney snowflakes would be dead.

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  • aheater said:
    Except nobody is getting defensive about the Nazi party getting criticized, people are getting defensive about people criticizing the art because they're incapable of separating art from reality. This OC is not a "good" character. This OC is a "bad" character. This OC is also an "attractive" character. Bad can still be attractive, whether you like the concept or not, and you pointing it out is NOT getting a reaction from people who think the inspiration behind the character is morally "good", but rather people who enjoy the art as it is on the surface. It's a deviant piece of art, the symbolism emphasizes how morally "bad" she is, and it's downright gorgeous all at once. That's what we see, not some social commentary that some people just can't get out of their heads.

    This OC's original intent was specifically to get people like you and me to talk about how offensive a fictional xenophobic pony is, which it's doing a fantastic job of to this day. The only cure is for people to literally stop commenting on it, to recognize that it is a piece of art and not political propaganda. But we can't resist, and then somebody replies, then somebody replies to the reply, and here I am replying to your reply explaining how this works. The only way to win the game is not to play my friend, and we lost the moment we commented.

    But is it a good idea? Obviously not, because it doesn't matter if YOU don't take it seriously, there will be people out there that do.

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  • Art of something does not endorse that thing. It's uncomfortable seeing nazi imagery posted publicly, but this isn't endorsement of an ideology. It lacks a clear message.
    At worst, it leads someone vulnerable to look for more of the character and it leads them to people who ARE looking to spread their ideology. But by then it's not the art at fault, it's the recruiters. I doubt porn is going to radicalize someone more than disinformation, lies, and threats will.

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  • selina727 said:
    Art of something does not endorse that thing. It's uncomfortable seeing nazi imagery posted publicly, but this isn't endorsement of an ideology. It lacks a clear message.
    At worst, it leads someone vulnerable to look for more of the character and it leads them to people who ARE looking to spread their ideology. But by then it's not the art at fault, it's the recruiters. I doubt porn is going to radicalize someone more than disinformation, lies, and threats will.

    Granted, there is an argument to be made that if the porn does send people to those places, then it's calling them into those cages.

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  • two_b said:
    Well if they all died who would whiney snowflakes be able reference when someone said something they don't agree with?

    An odd deflection

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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the idea that poking fun at a group who doesn't fucking exist anymore and making, let me be absolutely clear about this, a character in the style of a show called 'friendship is magic' really deserve this much political debate? People joke about nagasaki, titanic, 9/11, the iraqi war, slavery, the opium wars, and even about Jesus Christ, and you think the people making these will listen to you saying the pastel horse with a swastika offends you?

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  • ctrl-atl-replace7888 said:
    Dude, They're nazis. Do I have to drag you back to school and teach you why they're so bad?

    Did bear the story about the black man who befriended the clan wizard, later that clan wizard left the clan completely, or what about that politician who was anti-lgbtq? Wasn't he later spotted supporting a pride parade? What about the north korean soldiers who defected to south korea, or the Nazi soldiers who hid jews, and helped people climb the berlin wall, no matter how much a person has done or will do, they are a person, people change, and saying every single one of them dying is a good thing will only make them change for the worse, you can't put, the original Nazi's were only able to be as evil as they were because the allies screwed them over in the treaty and made them take full responsibility for a war they didn't even start, it will never be okay to harm someone for an opinion or belief, that's why people dislike nazis so much, don't be so focused on their flaws you don't notice when you have the same ones

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  • Only shitty little online communities like this unironically defend nazism and call it "just an opinion". Or play their petty games of semantics, like "nazis don't exist anymore". No, but neo-nazis do. You know what people are talking about, and we know why you're derailing the topic. Or say "it doesn't matter, why do you care so much" and proceed to type several paragraphs about how little they care, while continuing the argument.

    I don't care about the art - if this is unironic then the pitifulness speaks for itself. But the comments defending nazism itself are definitely on some enlightened centrist high. Or just actual social rejects who have gone without interacting with people in real life for so long that they think nazism isn't abhorrent or something. Or just nazis lol.

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  • Ya we live in a world where it's not acceptable to show the Nazi symbol but its just fine if we show the communist/socialist symbol...out of the two ideologies, guess which one has killed more people? (Hint: it's not Nazism) Both ideologies are bad, but free speech is something we should take very seriously, and people should have every right to give "bad" speech, it allows for critical thinking, debate, scrutiny, and ultimately higher understanding, we must never censor speech. (Please note, calls to action are not free speech, just wanted to say that before someone says the old "You CanT YeLl FIre iN a CrOwdEd tHeaTer" doa argument)

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  • chaotic_renegade said:
    Ya we live in a world where it's not acceptable to show the Nazi symbol but its just fine if we show the communist/socialist symbol...out of the two ideologies, guess which one has killed more people? (Hint: it's not Nazism) Both ideologies are bad, but free speech is something we should take very seriously, and people should have every right to give "bad" speech, it allows for critical thinking, debate, scrutiny, and ultimately higher understanding, we must never censor speech. (Please note, calls to action are not free speech, just wanted to say that before someone says the old "You CanT YeLl FIre iN a CrOwdEd tHeaTer" doa argument)

    contrasting ideologies based off of their death tolls instead of their fundamental ideas isn't the grand trump card you think it is. no system is immune to authoritarianism, but last I checked socialism wasn't founded on white supremacy. also "FrEe SpEeCh!" doesn't exempt you from criticism, nor should it.

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  • Unironically swing. Everyone in your life would be grateful for it.

    chaotic_renegade said:
    Ya we live in a world where it's not acceptable to show the Nazi symbol but its just fine if we show the communist/socialist symbol...out of the two ideologies, guess which one has killed more people? (Hint: it's not Nazism) Both ideologies are bad, but free speech is something we should take very seriously, and people should have every right to give "bad" speech, it allows for critical thinking, debate, scrutiny, and ultimately higher understanding, we must never censor speech. (Please note, calls to action are not free speech, just wanted to say that before someone says the old "You CanT YeLl FIre iN a CrOwdEd tHeaTer" doa argument)

    "I advocate for the hanging and execution of all other races as well as anyone I deem degenerate based on immutable characteristics, I believe it right to spread my ideas that fundamentally DO NOT include free speech. But this isn't a call to action!" Actual cuck. It takes fascist scum announcing "I'm going to kill you right here and right now. Seriously" for you to do anything other than shit yourself on the internet. Sorry dipshit, but you don't want free speech, you want to enable genocidal freaks to destroy it. Actually, what am I thinking? You're obviously just a Nazi spreading the idea that protects the growth of your plague. Kys.

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  • bassoon said:
    contrasting ideologies based off of their death tolls instead of their fundamental ideas isn't the grand trump card you think it is. no system is immune to authoritarianism, but last I checked socialism wasn't founded on white supremacy. also "FrEe SpEeCh!" doesn't exempt you from criticism, nor should it.

    >im killing people not based on their skin color, i kill people for i different reason
    Actuall communist logic, ill open you a little secret, you are just in the next cell to nazis in the lunatic asulym,trying to justify their disgusting genocidal tendencies, that is why your ideologies are a laughing stock and people promoting them are either low iq idiots or get paid for their propoganda. Commies , nazies, exstremist bunch stuck in 20s century , referencing people that were not qualified in any way shape or form to dictate their policies through government

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  • shave_n_haircut said:
    Except not if you think about it for even a minute.

    Yes let's think about it for a minute. What good would such a massive loss of life do? Nothing really, even if every person with such an ideology died it would do nothing because sooner or later you'd have more people in the future develop the same ideology. It. Would. Be. Pointless.

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  • autisticbronyguy said:
    the original Nazi's were only able to be as evil as they were because the allies screwed them over in the treaty and made them take full responsibility for a war they didn't even start

    Somehow I feel like crashing Germany's economy isn't a reasonable justification for starting a war that wipes out 3% of the global population. Also not sure who "them" is supposed to be, since the Nazi party really had no involvement in any part of the Treaty of Versailles; at that point they were about two steps up from a bunch of rowdy boy scouts. They would make a point to use the conditions of the treaty, and it's subsequent effects on the German people, as a major talking point as they continued to gather power in the German government, but it was hardly altruistic. I mean, unless you're the sort of person who considers "Labensraum" to be a justifiable concept.

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  • Even after 10 years, such discourse over a fucking CARTOON HORSE still astonishes me. Absolutely incredible.

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  • felicity_longis said:
    Somehow I feel like crashing Germany's economy isn't a reasonable justification for starting a war that wipes out 3% of the global population. Also not sure who "them" is supposed to be, since the Nazi party really had no involvement in any part of the Treaty of Versailles; at that point they were about two steps up from a bunch of rowdy boy scouts. They would make a point to use the conditions of the treaty, and it's subsequent effects on the German people, as a major talking point as they continued to gather power in the German government, but it was hardly altruistic. I mean, unless you're the sort of person who considers "Labensraum" to be a justifiable concept.

    Well the german people at that time was deeply resentful of the humilliating and kinda unfair treaty the allies imposed on the country(it was correctly called a truce of 20 years for a reason), that surely had to atleast play a part on why the nazi party ascended to power in the first place, Not that it was justifiable for that party to blame their defeat on the jewish people.

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  • bassoon said:
    contrasting ideologies based off of their death tolls instead of their fundamental ideas isn't the grand trump card you think it is. no system is immune to authoritarianism, but last I checked socialism wasn't founded on white supremacy. also "FrEe SpEeCh!" doesn't exempt you from criticism, nor should it.

    Obviously criticizing something that is of bad taste is okay but there is a point at which taking seriously and criticizing a talking fictional horse wearing clothes of an ideology that you don't like instead of using the blacklist sounds like a waste of time in here, And btw as bad the ideology of the nazi regime was, the soviet socialism(specially the stalinism period) and the imperialist japan weren't any better either.

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  • ctrl-atl-replace7888 said:
    Believing in an ideology that involves the oppression and death of billions based on ethnicity is always morally evil and therefore beating the shit out of those who believe in said ideology, is always morally correct.

    English translation: if you're a nazi, don't be surprised when someone tries to run you over.

    ctrl-atl-replace7888 said:
    Dude, They're nazis. Do I have to drag you back to school and teach you why they're so bad?

    First off: I'm pretty sure they killed millions and not BILLIONS like you stated.

    Second: I have to say that i really hate the ignorant black-and-white mentality that so many have when it comes to this type of topics like of course they were a very terrible but let's not pretend they were worse than any other that existed in the 20th century.

    Third: Other thing that has always pissed me off is how the nazis have become the biggest and most overused 'acceptable targets' in fictional media and even irl to people that think it's their duty to do so like they were the most evil organization of the 20th century, Of course i'm not defending anyone here just stating some facts.

    The soviet union had the gulags (which were just as miserable as the concentration camps), they carried forced transfers and mass deportations of whole ethnicities(considered ethnic cleansing), holodomor and other terrible famines, the 'eye for a eye' treatment the german civilians from eastern europe suffered after the war,etc.

    What about the imperal japan and their horrendous acts, Nanking, Manila, Shiro ishii and his 731 unit, seriously that shit makes the nazis look tame in comparison atleast to me.

    Hell just look up sutomo's attemp in indonesia to exterminate the non-natives or even myanmar right now, Sorry but i just find people fighting and arguing about these messed up things on a site like this incredibly silly and pointless. I now understand how important the blacklist system is to avoid this bullshit.

    TL:DR - Them snowflakes need to get a grip and try to be more mature and knowledgeable than just saying "nazi bad".

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  • silvanx said:

    Well the german people at that time was deeply resentful of the humilliating and kinda unfair treaty the allies imposed on the country(it was correctly called a truce of 20 years for a reason), that surely had to atleast play a part on why the nazi party ascended to power in the first place, Not that it was justifiable to blame their defeat on the jewish people.

    Oh good, the Nazi apologist is here to give us an unnecessarily long-winded response that boils down to "The Germans were upset about the terms of the Treaty of Versailles." No fuckin shit, Sherlock. Thanks for pointing out the most glaringly obvious point the Nazis leveraged to consolidate power.

    Then you follow that up with yet another banal rant about how the Nazis weren't the only ones committing atrocities. Like, again... No shit! If you bother taking a look at the post we're on, maybe it'll click why we're all talking about Nazis.

    silvanx said:
    TL:DR - They need to get a grip and try to be more knowledgeable than just saying "nazi bad".

    Once again, I don't know who "they" are, but there is literally nothing about the phrase "Nazi bad" that is incorrect. You can try to put all the historical spin you want on it, apologize, deflect, whine all fuckin day long. It doesn't change the fact that Nazis are, in fact, BAD. They aren't misunderstood, or misguided, or unduly vilified. Say it with me now:

    NAZIS ARE BAD

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  • felicity_longis said:
    Oh good, the Nazi apologist is here to give us an unnecessarily long-winded response that boils down to "The Germans were upset about the terms of the Treaty of Versailles." No fuckin shit, Sherlock. Thanks for pointing out the most glaringly obvious point the Nazis leveraged to consolidate power.

    Then you follow that up with yet another banal rant about how the Nazis weren't the only ones committing atrocities. Like, again... No shit! If you bother taking a look at the post we're on, maybe it'll click why we're all talking about Nazis.

    Once again, I don't know who "they" are, but there is literally nothing about the phrase "Nazi bad" that is incorrect. You can try to put all the historical spin you want on it, apologize, deflect, whine all fuckin day long. It doesn't change the fact that Nazis are, in fact, BAD. They aren't misunderstood, or misguided, or unduly vilified. Say it with me now:

    NAZIS ARE BAD

    You misunderstood me completely, Did you fully read what i said, or did your emotions get to you? Obviously i wasn't talking to you, i responded to several other comments here which are comparing ideologies and systems with one another and which is worse(they're all terrible to me), It doesn't matter if this is a nazism-only focused post.

    My apologies for being rude but you seem to think i'm playing down the nazis and their acts by calling out other extremist organizations when that's not the case, I NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T BAD OR EVEN REMOTELY JUSTIFIED, just that they're not the only monsters that have existed because apparently many people are solely focused into them when so many other groups and extremist groups(contemporary to them and even to this day) committed atrocities just as horrible, this is not revisionism or spins of any kind, this is HISTORY and you're the perfect example of those oversensitive individuals i'm calling out.

    Another sucker rubbing into my face that nazis are evil yeah thanks captain obvious like i get it they're bad, As if i needed to be reminded everytime i search posts of this particular cartoon horse from a children show.

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  • silvanx said:
    Obviously i wasn't talking to you

    Yeah... You were.

    silvanx said:
    I NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T BAD OR EVEN REMOTELY JUSTIFIED

    silvanx said:
    They need to get a grip and try to be more knowledgeable than just saying "nazi bad".

    Please, explain to us the nuance to the situation which makes the term "nazi bad" an ignorant thing to say.

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    As if i needed to be reminded everytime i search posts of this particular cartoon horse from a children show.

    If you're gonna go around those posts apologizing for Nazis then yeah, ya do. There's a line between "I'm just here to enjoy the ponies, so please leave me alone." and "I'm just here to enjoy the ponies and rant about how the Nazis weren't really that bad if you think about it, so please leave me alone." If it upsets you that people constantly badmouth Nazis on these posts, maybe it's time to think about your values and reconsider your life.

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  • felicity_longis said:
    Yeah... You were.

    Please, explain to us the nuance to the situation which makes the term "nazi bad" an ignorant thing to say.

    If you're gonna go around those posts apologizing for Nazis then yeah, ya do. There's a line between "I'm just here to enjoy the ponies, so please leave me alone." and "I'm just here to enjoy the ponies and rant about how the Nazis weren't really that bad if you think about it, so please leave me alone." If it upsets you that people constantly badmouth Nazis on these posts, maybe it's time to think about your values and reconsider your life.

    I'd just like to point out that both of you are arguing over a post that is a parody of the "pure Aryan race" ideology, a Nazi pony who has been stuffed by most races in Equstria and ENJOYS it. This officially the dumbest argument ever, and that's being compared to someone arguing about the single fang trope used in anime. Accept it for what it is and move on. This isn't Twitter, and this post isn't supporting Nazi ideology.

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  • i feel like if hitler saw this thread and the attached art he would have given up halfway through writing his book

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  • shave_n_haircut said:
    If every Nazi, Neo-Nazi, or "Alt-Right" person died today, nobody would be worse off.

    Yes, nazis are bad but your no differant than them if your wishing for an entire group (the neo nazis and far right) to die, just like nazis for an example massacred and neo nazis are massacering Jewish, gypsies ect.

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  • owothegroovyboi said:
    Why are you booing them, they're right!

    Cause most retards on the left use those terms to refer to anyone to the right of communism
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    Why are you booing them, they're right!

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  • Ain't this whole comments situation enough to realize the foreground "arm" isn't that long, and that there is visible genetalia in this post? Why is this "questionable" on either rating measure? Mature topic, suggestive, and nudity too?

    (Lol i know its the trigger but i cant unsee)

    And please don't take this next part for thinking with my emotions first:

    Communism is a rotten system with a heart of genuine attempt for good, buried under a whole 120 years of putrescence. Its 110% stupid now, all for the promise of that IDEA of a gleaming lil diamond brick for the factory cornerstone. Its never BEEN a thing, its name is evil now.

    Fascismo (invented in Italy) has ONE PURPOSE, to unify people AGAINST an "other" and put power into very few people's hands and then keep them too busy to remember that They The People put that power there, they can take it away. It is funny that people compare the two for what they became: communist thought is intrinsically anti-authoritarian, fascism intrinsically authoritarian, dictators were the POINT not an effect or afterthought or corruption, and the reason we now describe a key point of fascist ideas to "other" someone for something the ARE and not something they do, is because commies were way too fleeting an enemy to blame everything on, people... stopped being socialist in germany when that became fatal. So a target who could not pretend otherwise or help what they were was necessary.

    We all get definitions wrong here with raised passions. At any point of this march of factoids did I say "commie good"? I did not. Did I say it's okay for any government of any ideology or structure to categorically destroy certain sections of their peoples? I definitely didn't.

    I think the historical perspective of the facts are hard to imagine and remember. 11 million civilians were killed in less than ten years in Germany. 30 million soviet union citizens DID starve, in a manufactured event, over the course of 40 years. Both were done by an absolute dictator, one shouted from the rooftops that the mass death was the point and the other just didn't care or maybe it was the point, who now knows? And if numbers were the only factor, why exactly does no one remember Mao as loudly, or the bastard from Cambodia who actually had a 100 million death toll from personal orders of his? No, at the same time it is deeply appropriate, and sadly indignant that these things are "compared."

    They are the same thing. Dictators are bad, especially murderous ones.

    The hatred matters though. An ideology can die without a single human life stopped. Technically it is possible. It's different to say a bigoted group, self selected for hatred and intolerance, makes the world a worse place, and that what they say is literally right or wrong, or that they are a group worth respecting and treating as human like any other.

    If I prefer one evil to another, it's because of a measure of non apology. Communism was, passed tense, an actual idea. Fascism is and was ONLY EVER a means to power and a means to hate. "The world used to be nice and we were special once but these fuckers are awful and stink and if you just work for me and do what I say we could be glorious like Flight of the Valkyries and shit my dudes, obey me it will be nice." If you read those speeches transcripts, it is all a mash of run on half formed ideas. That, LIKE the statement Nazis Are Bad, just evokes no real ideas only FEELINGS.
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    All this to say that y'all really were and 5 days ago still were, virtue signaling in every damn sense of the word, for every side under the homo sapiens skullcap that a bone dome can define as a side of this cue-ball ofa planet. Ykno. You were doing that On a site for unspeakable deeds done in art about nonhuman animals. Where we founded this site for the definite right to look at a hairy dudenipple be licked by another hairy dude.

    Yes, heeheehaw. What you are doing is called virtue signaling, if your morals were that you are a red-blooded root-n-tootinest right winger, end story. So who's woke now?

    Fkn perspective, Hesus Cristo.

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  • I love this kind of threads for reminding me that 70% of adults can't form a single coherent political opinion without letting their emotions take over. And even more don't go past what they are told as "the right thing" and never actually conduct research by themselves.

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