News - Mar 08, 2015

Performance should be reasonable again; thanks for your patience!

Neato! Site runs considerably faster now. Good jawb, guise! :3

Site seems to run normally again. Thanks guys

Here is a suggestion; and I'll preface this as saying "generally I disagree with this but..."

I think there should be a thumbnail upload option for NON image files (namely flash).

From the main Posts page, you can't really tell one flash from another, a thumbnail would make that much easier. (Sure you can read all 18million tags since the flash thing is a game with tons of characters or whatever, but that feels like a bad work around to simply having a thumbnail. Heck, is it possible to extract a thumb from an SWF in code?)

To address my original preface; I don't think the uploader should have the option of specifying a thumbnail in the case of a regular image file. Letting the system generate those is better for everyone. (Custom thumbs I can't turn off is the #1 thing stopping me from moving my daily activities to Weasyl)

Edit:
Also, why is this whacking spaces between some of my punctuation?

Edit2:
Ok, it went away after I edited

KodaForShort said:
Here is a suggestion; and I'll preface this as saying "generally I disagree with this but..."

I think there should be a thumbnail upload option for NON image files (namely flash).

From the main Posts page, you can't really tell one flash from another, a thumbnail would make that much easier. (Sure you can read all 18million tags since the flash thing is a game with tons of characters or whatever, but that feels like a bad work around to simply having a thumbnail. Heck, is it possible to extract a thumb from an SWF in code?)

For future reference, this kind of stuff is usually kept in The Feature Request Thread. Related discussion: forum #121364 forum #147833

TLDR:

From what I understood, the only semi-reliable way of automating this would be to extract them indirectly by having the server run each flash file and take a couple screenshots and regular intervals. Wouldn't work for all files, but it would probably work well enough for most.

There are probably easier ways to extract a preview image from some flash files (videos) but other flash files (interactive, games) would definitely need the workaround. Note that I've never worked with flash before so I could easily be wrong on the details here.

The alternative to being automated is to just let users/mods upload a custom thumbnail, which has been talked about before but they just haven't got around to writing the code for it.

Edit:
Also, why is this whacking spaces between some of my punctuation?

Edit2:
Ok, it went away after I edited

That's the ever-elusive commenting bug. Nobody sees it but you and it goes away when you refresh the page. It's random and mildly confusing, but otherwise completely harmless.

Some things you can do with the new feature:

female date:today
female date:today order:random
date:month order:random -fav:user -voted:user server does not like it (with real username)
Shameless plug: set:lancearmstrongfavs date:month

Make your own version of Popular by Day:

Default: date:today order:score
By tag: male/male date:today order:score
Favcount instead of score: female date:today order:favcount
For the lulz: date:today order:comments
Flamewar mode: date:week order:comments

Not able to do:

date:<today
date:yesterday
date:>=yesterday

Range syntax is useful, yesterday keyword would be useful, especially date:>=yesterday instead of just today.

Stuff you can't do... yet:

-date:decade

Come back in about 2 years.

I have tosay, this is the only site with trustworthy ads. I know Bad Dragon is a site my friend has used before, and I was introduced to the Cathouse Tale through an ad here. Nothing fake or generic, or any of that "get a big dick" or "fuck someone today" bullshit I see on every other site. Well done guys.

There have been Fur Fling ads for some time though, and those guys are scammers.

Hm, maybe they can be reported?

Jugofthat said:
There have been Fur Fling ads for some time though, and those guys are scammers.

When I first heard of the allegations against FurFling, I decided to check it out. It's not entirely honest, for sure, but I would caution against throwing the phrase "scammer" around. They do produce a product, but they use less-than-honorable means of making people seem interested in you.

Likely, someone figured that out (it's rather obvious, in my opinion), felt jaded by it, and started accusing them on FA. They're no worse than any other subscription-based dating service, and employ many of the same tactics.

Hope this helps.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
When I first heard of the allegations against FurFling, I decided to check it out. It's not entirely honest, for sure, but I would caution against throwing the phrase "scammer" around. They do produce a product, but they use less-than-honorable means of making people seem interested in you.

Likely, someone figured that out (it's rather obvious, in my opinion), felt jaded by it, and started accusing them on FA. They're no worse than any other subscription-based dating service, and employ many of the same tactics.

Hope this helps.

I don't know how I did it but I managed to read other users messages list and found, in many other users, the same messages I had with little margin of time between timestamps (there were some days off in some other messages) so I'd recommend anyone to just avoid the site.

I am not sure why this happen but lusty lizard' flash is gone when I look for the tag it says it has 6 of them but only one show up and it is not in DNP is it a bug or I missed something?

tfkcex said:
I am not sure why this happen but lusty lizard' flash is gone when I look for the tag it says it has 6 of them but only one show up and it is not in DNP is it a bug or I missed something?

If you want to see deleted posts, use status:deleted in the search like so: lusty_lizard status:deleted. Although you still won't be able to see the actual uploads, you can see that it was a takedown that the artist made a couple months ago; some work was taken off the website and uploaded without permission. I haven't looked for any animations, but your best bet on finding them would probably be to just go to the artist's website http://www.lustylizard.xxx (it looks like it's still up).

parasprite said:
If you want to see deleted posts, use status:deleted in the search like so: lusty_lizard status:deleted. Although you still won't be able to see the actual uploads, you can see that it was a takedown that the artist made a couple months ago; some work was taken off the website and uploaded without permission. I haven't looked for any animations, but your best bet on finding them would probably be to just go to the artist's website http://www.lustylizard.xxx (it looks like it's still up).

Wow. I didn't know there was a way for us mortals to notice deleted posts.

GameManiac said:
Wow. I didn't know there was a way for us mortals to notice deleted posts.

There's a $h1tload of wonders a mortal can do on this site. Provided the wonder-in-question isn't broken.

GameManiac said:
Wow. I didn't know there was a way for us mortals to notice deleted posts.

Fun fact: You can also get around edit being grayed out if you edit the tags using Edit mode (though this is rarely needed). Before I became mod I used that every now and then to clean up misc "only tagged once ever" tags from showing up in the tag search (e.g., someone tagged pinkiepie(fim) and the post was deleted).

FYI to nobody in particular: Removing valid tags from deleted posts is still considered vandalism, use cautiously!

EsalRider said:
There's a $h1tload of wonders a mortal can do on this site. Provided the wonder-in-question isn't broken.

• I use status:any, inpool:true/false, and order:id_asc a lot.
• There's a pseudo-bug in order:mpixels where it shows a ton of animations at the top, but you can get around it with order:mpixels -animated
• id:1000..2000 inpool:false status:any artistname is a really handy way to find pages that went missing in pools (obviously id: should include post numbers relevant to the pool).

Suggestion:

make Cub and Loli linked so if a person searches "-cub" it's automatically also "-loli" and vice versa, for example.

I'm sure there are other sets of keywords that should also be paired.

Thanks!

Wet_Pussy said:
Suggestion:

make Cub and Loli linked so if a person searches "-cub" it's automatically also "-loli" and vice versa, for example.

I'm sure there are other sets of keywords that should also be paired.

Thanks!

Both of those are actually linked to young, if it helps.

Adding young rating:e to your blacklist should cover most of this, but ymmv.

There really needs to be some sort of consensus on "Irrelevant to Site" deletion/non-approvals. For instance https://e621.net/post/show/678731 which was a relatively muscley dickgirl with a dolphin dick was considered irrelevant. Yet we've got things like https://e621.net/post/show/649039 https://e621.net/post/show/614444 https://e621.net/post/show/614439 https://e621.net/post/show/592583 and https://e621.net/post/show/567912 floating around the site which are more or less the same thing which never even got considered for being "irrelevant." The whole "irrelevant" thing has been a thorn in this site's side for ages. It's the one deletion reason that has absolutely no conformity or ruleset. It is left up entirely to the whims of the first mod, admin, janitor, etc that sees it to decide whether or not it's irrelevant. There's plenty of other examples of animal-genital wielding humans around and yet something like this gets deleted. Simply put it either should not be a reason or there should be a strict ruleset, as there is with every other deletion/non-approval reason, to go along with it.

I can't be the only person that's tired of seeing perfectly legitimate posts being deleted for no actually good reason.

AnotherDay said:
There really needs to be some sort of consensus on "Irrelevant to Site" deletion/non-approvals. For instance https://e621.net/post/show/678731 which was a relatively muscley dickgirl with a dolphin dick was considered irrelevant.

The penis on here isn't very cetacean-like; at a glance it just looks like a human penis with a weird perspective. I could go either way with this, but it's more anime than furry. When this kind of thing happens I'd recommend sending a quick PM to whoever deleted it. We go through ~700 posts every day (NMNY does the bulk of it) and there's bound to be slip-ups on occasion.

For the others:

• post #649039 - Dolphin suit + obvious animal genitalia. Animal is the definitely the focus here.
• post #614444 post #614439 post #567912 - Notice the tail and ears. These are humanoid animals (kemonomimi/animal_ears), which are considered relevant to the site. The last one is borderline, but it was also approved before forum #146158.
• post #592583 - Very detailed and realistic animal genitalia, which is definitely relevant to the site.

parasprite said:
The penis on here isn't very cetacean-like; at a glance it just looks like a human penis with a weird perspective. I could go either way with this, but it's more anime than furry. When this kind of thing happens I'd recommend sending a quick PM to whoever deleted it. We go through ~700 posts every day (NMNY does the bulk of it) and there's bound to be slip-ups on occasion.

I get'cha. However even if the penis alone doesn't scream furry the penis with the sheathe really should. The penis shape is non-human enough, imo, that when combined with the sheathe there's really no doubt that it, at least, falls in the realm of animal genitalia.

Overall, however, I'm glad there's a bit more of a set of rules on that. It's something that's been lacking for years and that I apparently missed. Still.. If just animal ears on a human gets an okay shouldn't just animal genitals? I would certainly hope so.

Hi.

I'm an artist who's trying to contact a mod and/or admin who can help me link my DA account http://dfkjr.deviantart.com
to my e621 account? I'm new and I'm not very certain if this forum is the appropriate place to ask for help or even talk to a mod. If anybody is willing to help me out I will appreciate it very well.

DFKJR said:
Hi.

I'm an artist who's trying to contact a mod and/or admin who can help me link my DA account http://dfkjr.deviantart.com
to my e621 account? I'm new and I'm not very certain if this forum is the appropriate place to ask for help or even talk to a mod. If anybody is willing to help me out I will appreciate it very well.

Hello and welcome to e6. :)

You can do this by going to the artist page and clicking "Add". I went ahead and made it for you and linked your e6 account to it here. You're free to edit that page as needed, and the commission field on your settings page will now show up on that page as well.

parasprite said:
Hello and welcome to e6. :)

You can do this by going to the artist page and clicking "Add". I went ahead and made it for you and linked your e6 account to it here. You're free to edit that page as needed, and the commission field on your settings page will now show up on that page as well.

Thank you very much! :)
I was thinking a lot about finding more artsites to post my work and improve my skills. I figured this will be a good start.

Thanks again.

AnotherDay said:
There really needs to be some sort of consensus on "Irrelevant to Site" deletion/non-approvals. For instance https://e621.net/post/show/678731 which was a relatively muscley dickgirl with a dolphin dick was considered irrelevant.

Even if you say that is supposed to be a dolphin penis it still looks like a skinned penis with the skin rolled back like a reverse condom.

AnotherDay said:
Yet we've got things like https://e621.net/post/show/649039 https://e621.net/post/show/614444 https://e621.net/post/show/614439 https://e621.net/post/show/592583 and https://e621.net/post/show/567912 floating around the site which are more or less the same thing which never even got considered for being "irrelevant."

They barely made the cut when we decided on the new standard on how to deal with human only posts.

AnotherDay said:
The whole "irrelevant" thing has been a thorn in this site's side for ages. It's the one deletion reason that has absolutely no conformity or ruleset. It is left up entirely to the whims of the first mod, admin, janitor, etc that sees it to decide whether or not it's irrelevant. There's plenty of other examples of animal-genital wielding humans around and yet something like this gets deleted Simply put it either should not be a reason or there should be a strict ruleset, as there is with every other deletion/non-approval reason, to go along with it.

Welcome to a page administrated by human beings, we will let you know once we've been replaced by perfect robots.

But just for you: The guidelines on relevancy boil down to the following:

Is it clear furry art* (anthropomorphic animals/animals as a focus)? It's relevant.

Is it humans with very little animal features (single body parts swapped against something from an animal)? It's barely relevant, but still relevant enough.

Is it anything not above? High chance of being irrelevant.

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*art: For our purposes this is anything specifically created by an artist, and not just reused parts for the majority of the content.
This means: No screenshots (gif, video, or still image of existing material), no pictures with slapped on text (meme's, motivational posters, etc.), no music "videos" with a still image or gif or some BS like that, and other things I can't think of currently.

I just had a thought. Images with an alpha channel/transparent background have the alpha channel replaced with black in their thumbnails (see left,) but when viewed in full size, the blue website background can be seen.

So why don't we have the transparency in thumbnails as, well, transparency? Most websites have light-coloured backgrounds, so anything with a transparent background is likely going to be designed with a light-coloured background in mind for viewing, like DeviantArt's green. I mean, E621's blue isn't exactly light, but it would certainly look a lot better than just black.

BrownieComicWriter said:
I just had a thought. Images with an alpha channel/transparent background have the alpha channel replaced with black in their thumbnails (see left,) but when viewed in full size, the blue website background can be seen.

So why don't we have the transparency in thumbnails as, well, transparency? Most websites have light-coloured backgrounds, so anything with a transparent background is likely going to be designed with a light-coloured background in mind for viewing, like DeviantArt's green. I mean, E621's blue isn't exactly light, but it would certainly look a lot better than just black.

Currently? Because all thumbnails are stored as JPGs and JPGs don't support alpha channels. It's something to think about for the future though.

TonyLemur said:
Currently? Because all thumbnails are stored as JPGs and JPGs don't support alpha channels. It's something to think about for the future though.

Oh, I see. But you know, they could just have the blue instead of just black, right?

BrownieComicWriter said:
Oh, I see. But you know, they could just have the blue instead of just black, right?

Are you not aware that multiple themes are available?Bloodlust, Pony, Serpent, Hot Dog.. none of those have a blue bg.

savageorange said:
Are you not aware that multiple themes are available?Bloodlust, Pony, Serpent, Hot Dog.. none of those have a blue bg.

Well, quite clearly I'm not. E621 isn't my "hub" site by any means.

Okay, so if not blue, then why not, for example, white or light grey?

I'm honestly surprised this hasn't already been done.

BrownieComicWriter said:
Okay, so if not blue, then why not, for example, white or light grey?

How would changing it to white or light grey change things much?

parasprite said:
How would changing it to white or light grey change things much?

Note that in my previous comments the alpha channel being replaced with black was the problem.

So... how would changing black to white change things? Quite a lot, as it happens.

BrownieComicWriter said:
Note that in my previous comments the alpha channel being replaced with black was the problem.

So... how would changing black to white change things? Quite a lot, as it happens.

Yes and no. It would only move the problem to other images which show ok in the thumb with a black background, but might suddenly 'disappear' into a thumb with a white background or a grey background or a blue background. Just like a black drawing on a transparent background 'disappears' into the black background of the thumbnail, changing which color it is would only change which images are being affected in their thumbnails. It wouldn't really improve anything overall.

So finding a way to let the thumbnails retain transparency is probably the best long term solution, whenever that eventually becomes a site feature.

Could I request that the "recent tags" feature be extended in length? When I'm trying to edit multiple images, it's a real help, but it rarely shows enough tags, which ISN'T a real help.

Edit: Speaking of site feedback, I'll occasionally lose random spaces between words (always after some sort of punctuation), and I've noticed other users have had this problem as well. It's fixed with a simple edit, but just thought I'd bring it up since it ever-so-kindly showed its face.

Calcoast said:
I'll occasionally lose random spaces between words (always after some sort of punctuation), and I've noticed other users have had this problem as well. It's fixed with a simple edit, but just thought I'd bring it up since it ever-so-kindly showed its face.

It's a known issue, but nobody seems to know what might be causing it. The good news is, it's purely cosmetic and only appears on your own forum posts / comments right after you submit them, and others will always see it normally. You don't actually have to edit them, a simple page refresh will fix the formatting.

Why do my post keep getting deleted for not meeting minum quality

Jeeschrist, he's obviously underage. He shouldn't be here in the first place. Mods, pls, talk to the guy.

Natethefox13 said:
Why do my post keep getting deleted for not meeting minum quality

Many of your posts are cel shaded, have a lot of obvious aliasing (jagged pixels mostly along curved lines), and have very little in the way of anatomy. For instance on this post the poses are stiff and flattened, the hand of esix looks like it has 5 fingers and no thumb, Sonic's left knee appears to be more near the foot (or the leg is curved, I can't tell), and the background is made out of simple shapes with nothing much added to it. Not bad per se, just unremarkable.

I do think you have potential, but I think whatever you use to draw may be limiting your creativity and generally holding you back. I can't guarantee anything, but here are a few programs that I would recommend you take a look at:

• Windows - GIMP (free), PaintTool SAI (free), Paint.NET (free)
• Mac - GIMP (free), Pixelmator (paid, has good iOS app as well), PaintTool SAI (free, Unofficial ''port'')

EsalRider said:
It's a known issue, but nobody seems to know what might be causing it. The good news is, it's purely cosmetic and only appears on your own forum posts / comments right after you submit them, and others will always see it normally. You don't actually have to edit them, a simple page refresh will fix the formatting.

Well, I'd like to help solve it, but I wouldn't know where to start. I didn't even know that it was only for the submitter. Thanks for the info, though, bro.

When voting abuse is found, can the alts' votes be wiped out?

The different help pages (e621:index, help:index, howto:index) in the wiki are like the Isla de Muerta. "It's an island that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." ;)

I didn't even know how to access them without using my magic compass google to find somthing of which I already knew it existed - including crutial things like the TWYS explanation.

parasprite mentioined (forum #166325) that there is the intention to do something about redundant and overaged information but for now, a simple link to the relevant pages to make them actually accessible would certainly help. Especially newer users might get confused/annoyed and loose interest because they cannot figure out how something works or they are more likely to do something wrong.

Lance_Armstrong said:
When voting abuse is found, can the alts' votes be wiped out?

Yeah, that's easy to do.

Lord_Ocean said:
The different help pages (e621:index, help:index, howto:index) in the wiki are like the Isla de Muerta. "It's an island that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." ;)

I didn't even know how to access them without using my magic compass google to find somthing of which I already knew it existed - including crutial things like the TWYS explanation.

parasprite mentioined (forum #166325) that there is the intention to do something about redundant and overaged information but for now, a simple link to the relevant pages to make them actually accessible would certainly help. Especially newer users might get confused/annoyed and loose interest because they cannot figure out how something works or they are more likely to do something wrong.

I'm working on that one. It's a long process as the links need to be carefully checked and compared with each other because (as you've already noticed) they are all linked into each other and sometimes in unexpected places ("Commenting help" in the comment boxes link to howto:comment, for instance). It's far from ideal, but I suggest trying generic singular word searches (Title or Body) if you need to find a particular page as you can look at them all at once; the howto: and e621: prefixed are usually the more useful (I'll be specifically depreciating the help: pages as soon as I can have time to go through them all).

Also, feel free to send a quick PM to myself or one of the other admins if you have a more specific question or can't find something.

Edit: The e621.net/help listing is separate from the wiki and might be worth a look as well.

parasprite said:
I'm working on that one.

Great!

parasprite said:
The e621.net/help listing is separate from the wiki and might be worth a look as well.

That is basically the only accessible page. Though still tricky, considering there are literally 10 links labled "Help" on here but the important one - the 11th - is labled "Index".

I guess the optimum would be one single "Help" link on the top of the page right next to "My Account", because that is the first place I would look for it.

Lord_Ocean said:
That is basically the only accessible page. Though still tricky, considering there are literally 10 links labled "Help" on here but the important one - the 11th - is labled "Index".

I can't unsee that now that you've pointed it out. There's got to be a better way to do that.

Posts ^{(help] Might work a little better, but it looks a little odd to me and it makes the page seem kind of messy (maybe I just need to get used to it).}

Lord_Ocean said:
I guess the optimum would be one single "Help" link on the top of the page right next to "My Account", because that is the first place I would look for it.

That might work. It conflicts somewhat with the help links already on the end of every subnavbar (e.g., on the posts index: List Upload Mobile ... etc. ... Help) but it's probably what I would look for first as well. We could probably figure out a way of distinguishing the two links at any rate.

parasprite said:

Posts ^{(help] Might work a little better [...]}

That's actually not too bad. It is immediately recognizable as a link that will lead me to a page where I will find help about posts. Unique positioning and formatting make it easy to spot as well.

Different formatting for links with different functions are generally a good idea. It also helps to cut down on the visually overwhelming amount of entrys on the sitemap. Currently there are 72 links in a wall-of-text style (not counting the navigation bar at the top). I have to admit that the page looks somewhat automatically generated. (Though probably not, since it does not match the navigation bar: "Blips", "Chat" and "Contact" are missing, for example.) That invoked immediately the question "Am I even supposed to be here?". Formatting the "Help" links differently means at least 10 links less to obstruct the view.

How about something like this to get rid of even more links:

Posts ^{(help] By incorporating the most important link into the header of the respective group we also keep consistency with the navigation bar. Klicking on "Posts" will get me to "Posts". Seems intuitive.One could even think about dividing the options into basic and more advanced features. This would depend on who that site it designed for: Basic User, Advanced User or Admin? Neither can I access Mass Edit nor Reset Password. And what am I supposed to do with the API documentation? Just like myself most of e621's user base has no access to and/or use for these. One "Advanced features" group might suffice to make the common features more obvious and easy to find.}

i don't know if this is where i should be asking this, but how do i post on here? are regular members allowed to?

Lord_Ocean said:

How about something like this to get rid of even more links:

Posts ^{(help] By incorporating the most important link into the header of the respective group we also keep consistency with the navigation bar. Klicking on "Posts" will get me to "Posts". Seems intuitive.}

That might be another idea worth playing with. I'm thinking they can be condensed somehow and I agree that having "listing" to every entry does add a lot of bulk to it (and isn't very intuitive).

ThresherAlfeind said:
i don't know if this is where i should be asking this, but how do i post on here? are regular members allowed to?

Go to the posts page and click "upload" in the top-left corner.

Alternatively, click here. :P

have you thought about putting a character count next to the word "description" under posts. I've missed out on some good stories because I've neglected the description.

E926 has been giving 503 errora for hours. :(

Those furfling ads are hot as balls. Who is the animator?

Would love to know this too, and see all of their animations!

Peekaboo said:
Have the site had an upgrade of some sort lately? For the last two weeks or so the site has been really quick and wonderful to use.

The last thing we did was disabling the view counter. Maybe some more load balancing on the new server itself but that would have been only minor changes.

parasprite said:
Many of your posts are cel shaded, have a lot of obvious aliasing (jagged pixels mostly along curved lines), and have very little in the way of anatomy. For instance on this post the poses are stiff and flattened, the hand of esix looks like it has 5 fingers and no thumb, Sonic's left knee appears to be more near the foot (or the leg is curved, I can't tell), and the background is made out of simple shapes with nothing much added to it. Not bad per se, just unremarkable.

I do think you have potential, but I think whatever you use to draw may be limiting your creativity and generally holding you back. I can't guarantee anything, but here are a few programs that I would recommend you take a look at:

• Windows - GIMP (free), PaintTool SAI (free), Paint.NET (free)
• Mac - GIMP (free), Pixelmator (paid, has good iOS app as well), PaintTool SAI (free, Unofficial ''port'')

cel-shading

What's wrong with cel-shading? You dissin' Borderlands? >:(

...Nah, I'm just kiddin'.

temjin290 said:
Would love to know this too, and see all of their animations!

I was uploading them separately so they could be accessed easily without having to refresh the page a bunch of times and to possibly find the artist who made them.

I had only uploaded two of them before they were taken down for advertising.

Untamed said:
I had only uploaded two of them before they were taken down for advertising.

Orders from above, ads are supposed to stay in the ad slots, not as uploads.

That said, feel free to contact Furfling directly and ask them, the worst they can do is to deny a comment.

Question.

It has been about a day since my last picture was uploaded. [ https://e621.net/post/show/775756/avian-beak-big_penis-canine-car-chaos-city-cum-des ] And it is still not approved. My question is, why?

Does it usually take that long time for a post to get approved, or are all of the moderators just busy with personal things?

I also have three posts [ https://e621.net/post/show/775394/age_difference-anime_hair-comic-ekataraf-ekatarafu ]
that I have flagged myself shortly after uploading them due to me realizing they went against the DNP rule [ https://e621.net/forum/show/157799 ]

I'm kinda surprised as I thought they would have been deleted hours from now. Like, how long does it usually take to delete flagged posts?

intelligent_turret said:

It has been about a day since my last picture was uploaded.

I meant picture that I uploaded. I did not make that picture. I wish, but no. I don't have that kind of talent.

Just thought I should make it clear before anybody starts pointing fingers.

intelligent_turret said:
Question.

It has been about a day since my last picture was uploaded. [ https://e621.net/post/show/775756/avian-beak-big_penis-canine-car-chaos-city-cum-des ] And it is still not approved. My question is, why?

Does it usually take that long time for a post to get approved, or are all of the moderators just busy with personal things?

I also have three posts [ https://e621.net/post/show/775394/age_difference-anime_hair-comic-ekataraf-ekatarafu ]
that I have flagged myself shortly after uploading them due to me realizing they went against the DNP rule [ https://e621.net/forum/show/157799 ]

I'm kinda surprised as I thought they would have been deleted hours from now. Like, how long does it usually take to delete flagged posts?

Most days they get handled within 24 hours, but we tend to fall a bit behind with posts on the weekends for a few reasons I won't go into. I'll bring this up with the others and see if we can get some help to fill in the gaps.

parasprite said:
Most days they get handled within 24 hours, but we tend to fall a bit behind with posts on the weekends for a few reasons I won't go into. I'll bring this up with the others and see if we can get some help to fill in the gaps.

Thank you!

Just wondering if there should be a rule about low quality art uploaded only to be used as an avatar, i can't be the only one with this gripe

Vandy said:
Just wondering if there should be a rule about low quality art uploaded only to be used as an avatar, i can't be the only one with this gripe

I don't think there is an explicit rule, but that's not something we approve anyways.

Vandy said:
Just wondering if there should be a rule about low quality art uploaded only to be used as an avatar, i can't be the only one with this gripe

It'll be deleted like all the rest, and you'll be left with an avatar that simply says "DELETED".

parasprite said:
I don't think there is an explicit rule, but that's not something we approve anyways.

TL;DR section is at the bottom

Hello Parasprite.

I have a concern with flag requirements, and a bit of a bone to pick with Moderator: NotMeNotYou
Though I'm talking to you for reference before I confront him about it.

So about a month or so ago I posted an in-game demonstration of one of my creations inside the game: Yiffalicious (this was my first submission to E621 and I got approval from Odes of the Yiff crew)

The submission was approved, gaining like and faves and I thought all was well, then about a day later NotMeNotYou deleted it flagging it as a "Screencap"
Now I wasn't all that upset about that, "screencap" did seem like a valid reason so I just let it be.
A couple days ago I submitted a WIP pic that I had been drawing. It was approved and is still up right now.

However.

About 12 hours ago, I had posted the "Finished" version of my WIP picture. It was up for about 4 hours before I logged off and went about my day.
Now I just got back to find that NotMeNotYou has flagged and deleted it for "Not meeting minimum quality standards"... My finished work, has been deleted, for THAT!?!

This really upset me, more than it should have I reckon.
I'd chock this up to one of 3 things.

NotMeNotYou either:

Wasn't paying attention.

Did it as a joke.

Or he's got something against me.

TL;DR

NotMeNotYou has deleted my finished version of a picture I made, for reason "Doesn't meet minimum quality standards"
Which, quite frankly, is total bullsh*t.

What should I do about this situation? Can I re-post it?

Your image got deleted because:

• you colored outside of the lines

the lines are wobbly
the head isn't aligned with the neck
her left nipple is a 1px thick line, the right nipple is not
breasts don't work that way

The really interesting fact however is that the vagina doesn't fit the image, at all. You used black outlines of a single thickness on everything, the vagina doesn't have any, it's completely different from your sketch, the shading style doesn't fit the rest of the body, and it also doesn't share any of the anatomy faux-passes of your sketch. Quite frankly, that looks pasted on.

Your sketch got approved because it was a sketch, and the quality standards are lower for sketches. Your finished artwork is simply not polished enough to be here.
If you want my advice on how to improve it: Move the head a bit to our left, not much; redo the linework with a brush that has a sharp outline and aliasing turned on (pretty much every program supports that, make sure it isn't "smooth" though and looks washed out); clean up the colors so that they are always inside the lines; and make sure the nipples look a bit more similar in style. Your shading is decent already, but it's a lot of mistakes with your linework that make your finished render look bad.

I also advice against a re-upload before you polish the finished version further, knowingly reuploading deleted content is against the rules.

NotMeNotYou said:
Your image got deleted because:

• you colored outside of the lines

the lines are wobbly
the head isn't aligned with the neck
her left nipple is a 1px thick line, the right nipple is not
breasts don't work that way

The really interesting fact however is that the vagina doesn't fit the image, at all. You used black outlines of a single thickness on everything, the vagina doesn't have any, it's completely different from your sketch, the shading style doesn't fit the rest of the body, and it also doesn't share any of the anatomy faux-passes of your sketch. Quite frankly, that looks pasted on.

Your sketch got approved because it was a sketch, and the quality standards are lower for sketches. Your finished artwork is simply not polished enough to be here.
If you want my advice on how to improve it: Move the head a bit to our left, not much; redo the linework with a brush that has a sharp outline and aliasing turned on (pretty much every program supports that, make sure it isn't "smooth" though and looks washed out); clean up the colors so that they are always inside the lines; and make sure the nipples look a bit more similar in style. Your shading is decent already, but it's a lot of mistakes with your linework that make your finished render look bad.

I also advice against a re-upload before you polish the finished version further, knowingly reuploading deleted content is against the rules.

Denying my submission primarily because of amateur line-work and a little anatomy hiccups isn't right.

Basically what you just said to me was like, telling someone to get back in the water AFTER they've learned how to swim... You need to first BE in the water to figure out how to swim.

I am an amateur and I admit that. Hell, I'm probably BELOW amateur level. I picked up a program I knew nothing about. And after 12-14 or so hours, finally came up with something I was happy with.

But I know I've got a long way to go, and plan to improve as I go.

And I feel insulted that you'd shut down my post for the small details in my art, when there are far worse things on this site than what I've brought.

How is it that so many animations and other art get to stay here when they look like they've been slapped together in a mere half hour?

superunknown101 said:
Denying my submission primarily because of amateur line-work and a little anatomy hiccups isn't right.

Basically what you just said to me was like, telling someone to get back in the water AFTER they've learned how to swim... You need to first BE in the water to figure out how to swim.

I am an amateur and I admit that. Hell, I'm probably BELOW amateur level. I picked up a program I knew nothing about. And after 12-14 or so hours, finally came up with something I was happy with.

If you admit your art quality is low, why upload it to a site which only approves high quality art? That's like scribbling something together in crayon and asking to show it off in a museum, where it belongs on a fridge, instead. Furaffinity or Deviant Art are good sites for low-quality artwork while you learn how to improve.

superunknown101 said:And I feel insulted that you'd shut down my post for the small details in my art, when there are far worse things on this site than what I've brought.

How is it that so many animations and other art get to stay here when they look like they've been slapped together in a mere half hour?

I haven't seen any animations here that look like they were "slapped together in thirty minutes," what are you talking about? I've seen animations of sketchwork, but even that sketchwork was very well done an high quality. Not even the still-frame images have coloring out-of-the-lines.

Furrin_Gok said:
If you admit your art quality is low, why upload it to a site which only approves high quality art? That's like scribbling something together in crayon and asking to show it off in a museum, where it belongs on a fridge, instead. Furaffinity or Deviant Art are good sites for low-quality artwork while you learn how to improve.

I haven't seen any animations here that look like they were "slapped together in thirty minutes," what are you talking about? I've seen animations of sketchwork, but even that sketchwork was very well done an high quality. Not even the still-frame images have coloring out-of-the-lines.

https://e621.net/post/show/799815/2015-animaniacs-areola-bed-big_breasts-breastmilk-

That is an example of the kind of artwork I'm talking about.

All that thing consists of is:

A couple dozen lines (curved included)

And then throwing like 9 different colors on there with just the "fill" tool = Done.

Does that really seem like it took much time and effort?

P.S. you never even saw what I posted, so please don't assume we're talking about garbage art.

Here.

http://www.furaffinity.net/full/18701242/

See for yourself.

Furrin_Gok said:
If you admit your art quality is low, why upload it to a site which only approves high quality art? That's like scribbling something together in crayon and asking to show it off in a museum, where it belongs on a fridge, instead. Furaffinity or Deviant Art are good sites for low-quality artwork while you learn how to improve.

I haven't seen any animations here that look like they were "slapped together in thirty minutes," what are you talking about? I've seen animations of sketchwork, but even that sketchwork was very well done an high quality. Not even the still-frame images have coloring out-of-the-lines.

Oh sorry, I found something better, to prove my point.

https://e621.net/post/show/209462/-3-animaniacs-anthro-areola-balls-big_areola-breas

How does THAT get to stay on the site. While mine gets taken off because of a 1-pixel-thick color overlap on the head region, and a funny shaped nipple. :/

Furrin_Gok said:
If you admit your art quality is low, why upload it to a site which only approves high quality art?

P.P.S. Also, what I was saying is that my art is low quality by MY[/b] standards. Even though I am a total beginner. I still hold a high standard for myself to try and meet whenever I make something.

superunknown101 said:
https://e621.net/post/show/799815/2015-animaniacs-areola-bed-big_breasts-breastmilk-

"This post is pending moderator approval."

I have been deleting that guy's art for years now. God only knows why he is still uploading.

superunknown101 said:

https://e621.net/post/show/209462/-3-animaniacs-anthro-areolballs-big_areola-breas

Posted 3 years ago
Approver: ippiki_ookami

We increased our quality demands ~2 years ago but we don't delete old art for not meeting current standards, Ippiki has always been more lenient than I am because he finds these hilariously bad.

NotMeNotYou said:
"This post is pending moderator approval."

I have been deleting that guy's art for years now. God only knows why he is still uploading.
Posted 3 years ago
Approver: ippiki_ookami

We increased our quality demands ~2 years ago but we don't delete old art for not meeting current standards, Ippiki has always been more lenient than I am because he finds these hilariously bad.

I guess that makes sense, his avatar cat says it all XD

Revised version is up now BTW

Got rid of all the overlaps I could find, shaded more and changed the background so that she's upside down, thus having the obvious effect on her boobs.

hello i been seeing a lot of reposted images on E621 where the image is bigger then the original image that was posted before it as i found in the guide lines for it. It the last line of the guidelines for "duplicate/inferior version guidelines" so I'm not mistaken tons of images are being flagged for deleting as E621 staff may need to look closely at images. no offence this guide line is being ignored and abused a lot. E621 staff stop the abuse of this Guideline as people are just reposting a "Upscaled versions of existing posts are not considered higher quality."

e621:duplicate/inferior version guidelines

These are informal and unofficial guidelines for determining if a post that is similar to another post is likely to be deleted as a duplicate or inferior version. It can also be used to help you determine if a post should be flagged for deletion.

If the post is a variation made by the artist, it's more likely to be kept.

Variations not made by the original artist are usually subject to deletion. The most common exceptions are genital-related edits (gender change, decensoring), translations, and adding color to an uncolored post.

If there's a watermark, the non-watermarked version is usually preferred as long as it comes from the artist and is not DNP. In the case of obstructive text, usually both are kept.

Color edits and hue shifts are rarely kept (note that this doesn't include coloring an uncolored post).

Poorly made edits are rarely approved.

If a post has been on the site for a really long time, it's more likely to be kept.

If the images are identical in content, but there is a difference in file quality, the higher quality file is preferred unless it is DNP. Upscaled versions of existing posts are not considered higher quality.