Chessax said:
I guess straddling could be used, it is far from perfect, but maybe the most accurate we got atm, however it is commonly used for sex positions which makes it quite useless to find such specific posts.

Hmm, that sucks, I'm not so interested in people-straddling. Might need to create separate tags and use that as an umbrella for the two: straddling_partner and straddling_object?

Furrin_Gok said:
Hmm, that sucks, I'm not so interested in people-straddling. Might need to create separate tags and use that as an umbrella for the two: straddling_partner and straddling_object?

I'm pretty neutral about straddling_partner, but I can see a fair point in creating a new tag straddling_object.

A small note: E.g. a human can straddle a feral horse for riding, so not sure if straddling_partner is the best name for that.

Chessax said:
I'm pretty neutral about straddling_partner, but I can see a fair point in creating a new tag straddling_object.

A small note: E.g. a human can straddle a feral horse for riding, so not sure if straddling_partner is the best name for that.

Isn't that what the riding tag is for?

Furrin_Gok said:
Isn't that what the riding tag is for?

I suppose so. It is related, but in general:

• Straddling is used for any kind of straddling (including "straddling_object" and "straddling_partner")
• Riding is used for any kind of back riding (but occasionally mistagged for sex positions), and maybe excluding piggyback, but it doesn't necessarily imply straddling e.g. sidesaddle or even on_top_of.

I'm still trying to think of a good subtag for species that look like 50/50 combinations of two different species. Such as satyrs, mermaids, lamias, driders, etc.

Would liminal_creature work as a species category for them, or is that too obscure? The name is based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liminal_being.

Yeah, I'd think it would be too obscure. I don't think "liminal" will be in the vocabulary of all that many people coming to this site (like it wasn't in mine, before now :P ).

imagoober said:
Yeah, I'd think it would be too obscure. I don't think "liminal" will be in the vocabulary of all that many people coming to this site (like it wasn't in mine, before now :P ).

...yeah.
I just can't think of anything else to use. Even TVTropes is of no help this time: they call the concept 'mix-and-match critters', which seems both ambiguous and too long.

spliced_body. Wait for the eventual literal spliced body. ???. Profit.

alternates_at_source

How about an alternates_at_source tag?

alternative_version_at_source
alternative_versions_at_source

etc
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imagoober said:
Yeah, I'd think it would be too obscure. I don't think "liminal" will be in the vocabulary of all that many people coming to this site (like it wasn't in mine, before now :P ).

Agreed
Not sure how I feel about limiting tag names to the relatively small pool of common terms for uncommon situations though

titanmelon said:
Not sure how I feel about limiting tag names to the relatively small pool of common terms for uncommon situations though

Yeah, I saw that problem pop up from time to time over on TV Tropes when I was active there, complete with long, multi-page arguments over how obscure a term is. :P

Still, though, I do think that "liminal" would be too obscure to be part of an effective tag.

dorsal_ridge

Moved to:

p.forum #202648

in forum #190431 - Tagging Policy Discussion: Feral anatomy and tagging genders: (Apr. 2016)

imagoober said:
Yeah, I saw that problem pop up from time to time over on TV Tropes when I was active there, complete with long, multi-page arguments over how obscure a term is. :P

Still, though, I do think that "liminal" would be too obscure to be part of an effective tag.

intermediate_species? or does that sound too much like hybrid?

Regarding "liminal": half_and_half?

Maybe it's just me, but spliced_body sounds like a laboratory experiment or some other kind of what_has_science_done-creature.

intermediate_species might work, but yes, seems easy to confuse with hybrid.

And I'm not sure if half_and_half is clear enough. Though when it comes to new species categories, the users seem good at picking those up. The walking_head tag, for instance, caught on better than I expected.

Maybe something more specific.
animal_legs? Nah, some such as mermaids don't have legs.
half-animal? Also too close to hybrid?

animal_lower_torso? Hm. More of a general tag than species. I suppose we could just continue lumping satyrs and mermaids and such under animal_humanoid, and simply add some general tag like this, for sorting them. Would be consistent with animal_tail and such, at least.

Chessax said:
Regarding "liminal": half_and_half?

duality_anatomy

just putting this out there as something i just noticed on one of my searches, may apply well here in some form...

Should there be a tag for when a character is standing/sitting/whatever on some object to make up for a height difference with another character? I'm thinking mostly for sex but it could also apply to post #815031 for example. height_assist?

Sorry if one already exists but I haven't seen it!

R'D said:
duality_anatomy

just putting this out there as something i just noticed on one of my searches, may apply well here in some form...

Reverse the order and you'll get my +1 (Anatomy_Duality).

doofhoofoof said:
Should there be a tag for when a character is standing/sitting/whatever on some object to make up for a height difference with another character? height_assist?

Sorry if one already exists but I haven't seen it!

Height assist sounds good to me.

Furrin_Gok said:
...

do agree to both as well.

doofhoofoof said:
Should there be a tag for when a character is standing/sitting/whatever on some object to make up for a height difference with another character?

No objections, but just out of curiosity, how common is this?

Chessax said:
No objections, but just out of curiosity, how common is this?

Without looking, I'd say more often than some of the other things out there, with like one or two images having the tag.

Chessax said:
No objections, but just out of curiosity, how common is this?

On a scale from mammal to womb_prolapse? I dunno, sushi?

These two were on the front page without even having to search for anything: post #963002 post #962967

Some stool samples:
post #959913 post #955590 post #948352 post #948005 post #946759 post #944230 post #927542 post #922526 post #889722 post #889709 post #887106 post #878213 post #871852 post #843874 post #836754 post #830477 post #829802 post #826839 post #762045

I'm not sure whether I would count this: post #898364
but I would probably count these: post #914884 post #953094

Kogith said:
On a scale from mammal to womb_prolapse? I dunno, sushi?

Heh, well I guess that answers that, carry on. I did not need to see that.

Considerably, void_crotch or empty_crotch? Its something that makes me uncomfortable and I;d love to be able to blacklist it but.

GDelscribe said:
Considerably, void_crotch or empty_crotch? Its something that makes me uncomfortable and I;d love to be able to blacklist it but.

Do you mean featureless_crotch? That exists.

Genjar said:
Do you mean featureless_crotch? That exists.

Thanks!

Just made a breast_close-up tag

weird format aside, it fits with the rest of close-up tags

not 'breasts', because you can have a closeup of a single breast

titanmelon said:
Just made a breast_close-up tag

weird format aside, it fits with the rest of close-up tags

not 'breasts', because you can have a closeup of a single breast

....oh.
I've added genital_focus or butt_shot to some posts but I didn't know about the *_close-up tags (except close-up itself...)
Perhaps some aliases/implications/wiki clarifications are in order.

titanmelon said:
Just made a breast_close-up tag

I wish you'd discuss those first. Preferably with the committee.
The standard is *_shot, and we already have boob_shot.

Moved the relevant ones there. Left post #854972, since that fits the *_close-up standard.

Kogith said:
....oh.
I've added genital_focus or butt_shot to some posts but I didn't know about the *_close-up tags (except close-up itself...)
Perhaps some aliases/implications/wiki clarifications are in order.

Yeah. Quite a few of those are nowhere near being close-ups.

Genjar said:
I wish you'd discuss those first. Preferably with the committee.
The standard is *_shot, and we already have boob_shot.

There's a committee?

Circeus said:
Yeah. Quite a few of those are nowhere near being close-ups.

Kogith said:
[..]Perhaps some aliases/implications/wiki clarifications are in order.

Hm, yeah you might be right

I'm still working on the tag group:optics article, if anyone has insight into tags/cases like these, feel free to mention it in
forum #200361 - Advanced Tag/Wiki discussion: Optics (Jul. 2016)
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Genjar said:
[..]
Moved the relevant ones there. Left post #854972, since that fits the *_close-up standard.

Sounds good, thanks
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Kogith said:
There's a committee?

Apparently

Kogith said:
There's a committee?

Basically the IRC.

Furrin_Gok said:
Basically the IRC.

Not at all.

Genjar said:
Not at all.

Asuming a hidden admin/mod only forum section

This needs more feedback: double_ball_fondling.

It follows the same standard as double_handjob, etc. I added a few posts to it as a test, but it's such a niche tag that I'm not at all sure that we actually need it.

Genjar said:
This needs more feedback: double_ball_fondling.

It follows the same standard as double_handjob, etc. I added a few posts to it as a test, but it's such a niche tag that I'm not at all sure that we actually need it.

Couldn't hurt.

I also came up with feral_domation recently.
Discussed it here: https://e621.net/forum/show/205094

Head_to_head
Two characters pressing their foreheads together is what I generally have in mind.

Stubby_tail

Sorrowless said:
Stubby_tail

short_tail...

Ruku said:
short_tail...

That works. I was thinking in line of dobermans and bobcats.

I've been struggling with posts like post #982782 for a while now, and so I just went forward and created ballsack_outline as an equivalent of penis_outline.

Circeus said:
I've been struggling with posts like #982782 for a while now, and so I just went forward and created ballsack_outline as an equivalent of penis_outline.

Good. Maybe that'll stop users from tagging those as balls. That's supposed to only be used for visible ones, but -rating:explicit balls always gets a lot of hits...

My (very rough!) rule of thumb is: "if you could recolor it and it would still be a clear ballsack, it's a ballsack_outline (and should be explicit), otherwise it's just a bulge".

I'm not sure whether stuff where you can see the flaccid penis separately from the balls (e.g. post #977979) should be penis_outline or just bulge. Any thoughts?

Because of habit I tend to make underlines where there should be a slash when tagging. It would be nice if those were automatically corrected.

I have a tag to suggest.

incorrect_genitalia : This would be for humans, furs, or animals that don't have the right genitalia, but it won't cover things like giving a furry a humanoid cock. More like, giving a dog a horsecock, or giving a horse a dog cock as seen in this: post #972323

GoldForest said:
I have a tag to suggest.

incorrect_genitalia : This would be for humans, furs, or animals that don't have the right genitalia, but it won't cover things like giving a furry a humanoid cock. More like, giving a dog a horsecock, or giving a horse a dog cock as seen in this: post #972323

Sounds good to me.

GoldForest said:
I have a tag to suggest.

incorrect_genitalia : This would be for humans, furs, or animals that don't have the right genitalia, but it won't cover things like giving a furry a humanoid cock. More like, giving a dog a horsecock, or giving a horse a dog cock as seen in this: post #972323

That tag is even worse than anatomically_incorrect. I don't see the latter as being offensive, but I would definitely see incorrect_genitalia as an insult.

Furrin_Gok said:
That tag is even worse than anatomically_incorrect. I don't see the latter as being offensive, but I would definitely see incorrect_genitalia as an insult.

Insult is only taken. A different name for the tag can however be used.

GoldForest said:
I have a tag to suggest.

incorrect_genitalia : This would be for humans, furs, or animals that don't have the right genitalia, but it won't cover things like giving a furry a humanoid cock. More like, giving a dog a horsecock, or giving a horse a dog cock as seen in this: post #972323

just saying another variant of incorrect genitalia is already invalidated, so this tag would be circumventing a invalid tag.

Interspecies_genitalia could be a possibility...

atypical_specie_genitalia

As long as we're brainstorming names, I like mismatched_genitalia.

I feel sex within the same species is kind of unusual among feral and anthros. How about a same species tag?

Ruku said:
just saying another variant of incorrect genitalia is already invalidated, so this tag would be circumventing a invalid tag.

Interspecies_genitalia could be a possibility...

Oooh, that tag really works out.

Sorrowless said:
I feel sex within the same species is kind of unusual among feral and anthros. How about a same species tag?

There you go:

• same_species_sex
• same_species_bestiality

ZaSigma4 said:
There you go:

• same_species_sex
• same_species_bestiality

Thanks, pal! I will hopefully remember these for my tagging sessions.

Sorrowless said:
I feel sex within the same species is kind of unusual among feral and anthros. How about a same species tag?

ZaSigma4 said:
There you go:

• same_species_sex
• same_species_bestiality

Erm, why? The interspecies tag is already in mainstream use.

Maxpizzle said:
Erm, why? The interspecies tag is already in mainstream use.

What I think:

• Not every post will properly tagged with interspecies.
• Not every post can qualify either interspecies or same_species_sex.
• Sometimes a post can qualify both interspecies and same_species_sex.
• It is better to have a way to directly search what you want.

I was surprised to see that closed_legs was an unused tag.

Eye_slightly_open

Sorrowless said:
Eye_slightly_open

I believe that's called squinting.

GoldForest said:
I believe that's called squinting.

Even the kind that is closer to peeping?

Pulling_down_pants

Sorrowless said:
Pulling_down_pants

assisted_exposure.

Sorrowless said:
Eye_slightly_open

half-closed_eyes

leomole said:
half-closed_eyes

I'm thinking of barely open.

Furrin_Gok said:
assisted_exposure.

Thanks.

Is :P a valid tag for the tongue_out on the side of the mouth? I mean, we already have the :3 tag.

post #981089 post #839563

cum_in_toy

As in sex_toy. Might need a better name, since it might get mixed up with actual toys. But cum_in_sex_toy seemed a bit clunky.

Genjar said:
post #981089 post #839563

cum_in_toy

As in sex_toy. Might need a better name, since it might get mixed up with actual toys. But cum_in_sex_toy seemed a bit clunky.

Good one. I don't think there are many posts with people cumming in regular toys for it to be an issue.

I agree cum_in_toy works.

crocodilian_penis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodilian

http://www. iucncsg.org/365_docs/attachments/protarea/Geni-4343c282.pdf

Is there a tag for asking for consent/convincing?

What do you guys think of glowing_flesh and coloured_flesh tag for parts where skin/scales isn't pigmented to show a different colour than what the blood is making?

Instead of tag_me when you want someone else to tag the post, how about correct_me if you feel you are unsure of what the correct tag names are?

Sorrowless said:
Instead of tag_me when you want someone else to tag the post, how about correct_me if you feel you are unsure of what the correct tag names are?

Did you mean "along with...", and not "instead of..."? Also, it's tagme, so correctme would probably fit the theme.

Sorrowless said:
Instead of tag_me when you want someone else to tag the post, how about correct_me if you feel you are unsure of what the correct tag names are?

Why? Either way, it'll need to be checked and fixed by someone, so why would those need different names?

Well, tagme alone would work, but I thought correctme was more appropriate for well, corrections while tagme implies adding more.